What is "Unfettered Capitalism"?

[thereisnospoon]

The capitalism might have worked (in an extremely 'impure' form) for a while, but it's not a sustainable system. There is no endless growth, there are no endless resources. We are killing the planet by over-consuming cheap nasty crap that ends up sooner or later as trash. We need to go back to quality over quantity and more local/production/consumption. Luxuries should really be luxuries and necessities necessities ... I see it already happening. Development is headed that way. Plus governmental intervention is extremely important - it's in fact the people/citizens - making sure that the water is drinkable and the air is breathable - that all of the necessities and resources are not destroyed in the blind race after profit as has been done and is being done by unscrupulous corporations.

Capitalism is soon going to give way to some other system. It has to, our survival on this planet actually depends on it.

gee. Then lets all return to a primitive lifestyle where everyone shares in the bounty of the whole without regard to the producer. That work for ya?

 

[Dr Grump]

Unfettered capitalism does not exist. Therefore your argument is moot.
Just be honest and admit you would rather there be NO capitalism..Except for yourself of course

Take up the title of the thread with the person who started it. He's on your side of the argument. I like a mixture of capitalism and socialism. Either on their own are doomed to failure.

 

[Dr Grump]

You said exactly what I said you said. I proved you're an idiot. Why should anyone believe your claims about capitalism when you're an obvious ignoramus?

The issue here is, you don't see my point. This does not surprise me. Time and time again I have seen any cerebral argument go way above your head. You are dumb as a post...then again, I might be doing a disservice to the post.

 

[Contumacious]

Capitalism is a self regulating system. Charge too much, someone will undercut you. Deliver bad goods/services? People will stop buying. Cheat someone? Expect a big lawsuit.
The problems that people cite with "capitalism" usually are the result of lack of capitalism, i.e. gov't intrusion.
Capitalism has raised standards of living and brought people out of poverty. Why would anyone want to fetter that?

It's self-regulating? Then why have laws against child prostitution as an enterprise?

What part of capitalism allows for child rape, murder, theft or any other idiotic strawman you care to erect?

I'll make it simple for you again, child prostitution is a business, just like selling oil. Civil society decides it is a vile business and regulates it by passing laws that make it a felony. Are you really this stupid?

BULLSHIT.


IT IS UNDERSTOOD THAT BUSINESS TRANSACTIONS REQUIRE ******CONSENTING ADULTS**********


SO YOU CAN CRIMINALIZE THE ACT WITHOUT ****REGULATING*****CAPITALISM.


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Consent is a government invention. You can't establish consent rules without government determinations and government enforcement.

So, before the government "invented " the concept , businessmen used to conduct transactions with children?


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[Contumacious]

Capitalism is a self regulating system. Charge too much, someone will undercut you. Deliver bad goods/services? People will stop buying. Cheat someone? Expect a big lawsuit.
The problems that people cite with "capitalism" usually are the result of lack of capitalism, i.e. gov't intrusion.
Capitalism has raised standards of living and brought people out of poverty. Why would anyone want to fetter that?

It's self-regulating? Then why have laws against child prostitution as an enterprise?

What part of capitalism allows for child rape, murder, theft or any other idiotic strawman you care to erect?

I'll make it simple for you again, child prostitution is a business, just like selling oil. Civil society decides it is a vile business and regulates it by passing laws that make it a felony. Are you really this stupid?

BULLSHIT.


IT IS UNDERSTOOD THAT BUSINESS TRANSACTIONS REQUIRE ******CONSENTING ADULTS**********


SO YOU CAN CRIMINALIZE THE ACT WITHOUT ****REGULATING*****CAPITALISM.


.

I know on the Planet Moron you beings make up your own definitions and laws and so forth but you are now communicating on Earth and you are therefore required to obey our laws and definitions. Go to Google. Google "Child Prostitution" See this:

The Prostitution Of Children - US Department of Justice
www.justice.gov › ... › Subject Areas
Jun 3, 2015 - Agencies · Business ... Children involved in this form of commercial sexual exploitation are victims. ... Under federal law, the prostitution of children is considered a form of human trafficking, also referred to as sex trafficking.

Go to that site. Read this;

The Prostitution of Children

It is illegal to lure, transport, or obtain a child to engage in prostitution or any illegal sexual activity. Children involved in this form of commercial sexual exploitation are victims. Offenders of this crime, also commonly referred to as traffickers or pimps, recruit, entice, or capture children in order to sell them for sex in exchange for cash, goods, or in– kind favors. Under federal law, the prostitution of children is considered a form of human trafficking, also referred to as sex trafficking. Sex trafficking is a lucrative industry, and criminals traffic children just as they would traffic drugs or other illegal substances. This is a serious crime under federal law, and convicted offenders face serve statutory penalties. (For more information, see Citizen's Guide to Federal Law on the Prostitution of Children).

I don't even know why we bother to try to communicate with Morons. I guess it's our liberal empathy for the unfortunate.

LISTEN STUPID FUCK , EVEN THOUGH THE ACT HAS BEEN CRIMINALIZED THE CRIMINAL ELEMENT IGNORES YOUR LAWS.


AND THE VERY GOVERNMENT WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO PROTECT THE CHILDREN INCINERATED 20 ALIVE IN WACO TEX - AND SENT ONE LITTLE ELIAN GONZALEZ TO A SLAVE STATE.

AND IT MURDERED MILLIONS OF CHILDREN IN IRAQ AND SYRIA


AND IT DEPRIVES CHILDREN OF THEIR PARENTS BY SENDING THOSE AMERICANS WHO USE "DRUGS" TO PRISON FOR A LONG TIME.



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SO SHUT THE FUCK UP

 

[bripat9643]

Unfettered capitalism does not exist. Therefore your argument is moot.
Just be honest and admit you would rather there be NO capitalism..Except for yourself of course

Take up the title of the thread with the person who started it. He's on your side of the argument. I like a mixture of capitalism and socialism. Either on their own are doomed to failure.

Horseshit. Capitlaism is a stunning success. Only socialism fails.

 

[bripat9643]

You said exactly what I said you said. I proved you're an idiot. Why should anyone believe your claims about capitalism when you're an obvious ignoramus?

The issue here is, you don't see my point. This does not surprise me. Time and time again I have seen any cerebral argument go way above your head. You are dumb as a post...then again, I might be doing a disservice to the post.

You give yourself more credit than you deserve. There's nothing "cerebral" about your argument, unless you consider logical fallacies to be "cerebral." You're just too fucking stupid to understand that you posted pure idiocy. It may have sounded impressive to morons like you, but that's how propaganda works. It's designed to fool the ignorant.

 

[Iceweasel]

Capitalism is a self regulating system. Charge too much, someone will undercut you. Deliver bad goods/services? People will stop buying. Cheat someone? Expect a big lawsuit.
The problems that people cite with "capitalism" usually are the result of lack of capitalism, i.e. gov't intrusion.
Capitalism has raised standards of living and brought people out of poverty. Why would anyone want to fetter that?

It's self-regulating? Then why have laws against child prostitution as an enterprise?

What part of capitalism allows for child rape, murder, theft or any other idiotic strawman you care to erect?

I'll make it simple for you again, child prostitution is a business, just like selling oil. Civil society decides it is a vile business and regulates it by passing laws that make it a felony. Are you really this stupid?

Fuck you, asshole. Murder for hire is illegal too, what has that got to do with capitalism? Yes, you really are that simple!

 

[gipper]

Capitalism is a self regulating system. Charge too much, someone will undercut you. Deliver bad goods/services? People will stop buying. Cheat someone? Expect a big lawsuit.
The problems that people cite with "capitalism" usually are the result of lack of capitalism, i.e. gov't intrusion.
Capitalism has raised standards of living and brought people out of poverty. Why would anyone want to fetter that?

Has unfettered capitalism ever existed, except in the deluded minds of socialists and statists?

 

[Iceweasel]

RETARD ALERT!

You're digging a hole. Anarchy isn't the same as capitalism no matter how badly you want it.

I'm beginning to think you really are stupid. Caveat Emptor IS unfettered Capitalism. And BTW, you ignored

Wrong, retardo. It means:

caveat emptor | law : the principle that a person who buys something is responsible for making sure that it is in good condition, works properly, etc.
law : the principle that a person who buys something is responsible for making sure that it is in good condition, works properly, etc.

Your really are a concrete thinker, if you think at all.

A purveyor of a dangerous product, who knowingly sells an unregulated product to an unwitting customer is an example of unfettered capitalism. If it is not, tell me what it is!

There's no such thing as unfettered capitalism, retard! No matter how many times you make the idiotic claim.

 

[NYcarbineer]

It's self-regulating? Then why have laws against child prostitution as an enterprise?

What part of capitalism allows for child rape, murder, theft or any other idiotic strawman you care to erect?

I'll make it simple for you again, child prostitution is a business, just like selling oil. Civil society decides it is a vile business and regulates it by passing laws that make it a felony. Are you really this stupid?

BULLSHIT.


IT IS UNDERSTOOD THAT BUSINESS TRANSACTIONS REQUIRE ******CONSENTING ADULTS**********


SO YOU CAN CRIMINALIZE THE ACT WITHOUT ****REGULATING*****CAPITALISM.


.

Consent is a government invention. You can't establish consent rules without government determinations and government enforcement.

So, before the government "invented " the concept , businessmen used to conduct transactions with children?


.

How long did kids work in the coal mines?

Age of consent is a government construct. Without government there is no such thing as a legal age of consent.

 

[Iceweasel]

Based on what? You've drawn a conclusion with nothing but a wild ass opinion for support.

Based on history. Ask any economist what is the most fundamental thing that keeps a country from going into recession. One word: growth.

Any economist huh? Proof by assertion! Recession means slowing down, look it up. If it stays the same we aren't in a recession.

The fact here is that liberals have NO clue what capitalism even means. They are full on brainwashed dupes by the socialists peddling their failed policies to the walking numbskulls.

 

[Iceweasel]

How long did kids work in the coal mines?

Age of consent is a government construct. Without government there is no such thing as a legal age of consent.

Capitalism doesn't mean lawlessness. Failed again.

 

[bripat9643]

What part of capitalism allows for child rape, murder, theft or any other idiotic strawman you care to erect?

I'll make it simple for you again, child prostitution is a business, just like selling oil. Civil society decides it is a vile business and regulates it by passing laws that make it a felony. Are you really this stupid?

BULLSHIT.


IT IS UNDERSTOOD THAT BUSINESS TRANSACTIONS REQUIRE ******CONSENTING ADULTS**********


SO YOU CAN CRIMINALIZE THE ACT WITHOUT ****REGULATING*****CAPITALISM.


.

Consent is a government invention. You can't establish consent rules without government determinations and government enforcement.

So, before the government "invented " the concept , businessmen used to conduct transactions with children?


.

How long did kids work in the coal mines?

Age of consent is a government construct. Without government there is no such thing as a legal age of consent.

Age of consent is government enforced. It didn't conceive of the idea. People have always believed that children are not able to make their own decisions responsibly.

 

[NYcarbineer]

I'll make it simple for you again, child prostitution is a business, just like selling oil. Civil society decides it is a vile business and regulates it by passing laws that make it a felony. Are you really this stupid?

BULLSHIT.


IT IS UNDERSTOOD THAT BUSINESS TRANSACTIONS REQUIRE ******CONSENTING ADULTS**********


SO YOU CAN CRIMINALIZE THE ACT WITHOUT ****REGULATING*****CAPITALISM.


.

Consent is a government invention. You can't establish consent rules without government determinations and government enforcement.

So, before the government "invented " the concept , businessmen used to conduct transactions with children?


.

How long did kids work in the coal mines?

Age of consent is a government construct. Without government there is no such thing as a legal age of consent.

Age of consent is government enforced. It didn't conceive of the idea. People have always believed that children are not able to make their own decisions responsibly.

The government is of the people. You can't separate the two. Age of consent is a legislative act. An action taken by the people's representatives.

 

[NYcarbineer]

How long did kids work in the coal mines?

Age of consent is a government construct. Without government there is no such thing as a legal age of consent.

Capitalism doesn't mean lawlessness. Failed again.

Since I never said that, why did you post that?

 

[Mac1958]

holy crap

 

[NYcarbineer]

Capitalism is a self regulating system. Charge too much, someone will undercut you. Deliver bad goods/services? People will stop buying. Cheat someone? Expect a big lawsuit.
The problems that people cite with "capitalism" usually are the result of lack of capitalism, i.e. gov't intrusion.
Capitalism has raised standards of living and brought people out of poverty. Why would anyone want to fetter that?

The right to sue businesses, the 'big lawsuit' you refer to above, is not 'self-regulation', it is a government enforced fettering of capitalism. Oddly, you endorsed it at the same time you were arguing for self-regulation and against 'fettering'.

You're a bit confused.

btw, let's not forget that business interests are always trying to weaken the legal recourse that people have in the courts.

 

[bripat9643]

BULLSHIT.


IT IS UNDERSTOOD THAT BUSINESS TRANSACTIONS REQUIRE ******CONSENTING ADULTS**********


SO YOU CAN CRIMINALIZE THE ACT WITHOUT ****REGULATING*****CAPITALISM.


.

Consent is a government invention. You can't establish consent rules without government determinations and government enforcement.

So, before the government "invented " the concept , businessmen used to conduct transactions with children?


.

How long did kids work in the coal mines?

Age of consent is a government construct. Without government there is no such thing as a legal age of consent.

Age of consent is government enforced. It didn't conceive of the idea. People have always believed that children are not able to make their own decisions responsibly.

The government is of the people. You can't separate the two. Age of consent is a legislative act. An action taken by the people's representatives.

Bullshit. The government is a gang of men separate and distinct from "the people."

 

[bripat9643]

Capitalism is a self regulating system. Charge too much, someone will undercut you. Deliver bad goods/services? People will stop buying. Cheat someone? Expect a big lawsuit.
The problems that people cite with "capitalism" usually are the result of lack of capitalism, i.e. gov't intrusion.
Capitalism has raised standards of living and brought people out of poverty. Why would anyone want to fetter that?

The right to sue businesses, the 'big lawsuit' you refer to above, is not 'self-regulation', it is a government enforced fettering of capitalism. Oddly, you endorsed it at the same time you were arguing for self-regulation and against 'fettering'.

You're a bit confused.

btw, let's not forget that business interests are always trying to weaken the legal recourse that people have in the courts.

More horseshit. Lawsuits are not government regulation. Lawsuits are people deciding what they will tolerate and not tolerate, not some bureaucrat appointed by a lying politician telling you what is allowed and what isn't.