“What Percentage Of Murders Are Committed With An AR-15?”

[OKTexas]

"What Percentage Of Murders Are Committed With An AR-15?" | Extrano's Alley
Someone came by searching for “what percentage of murders committed with AR[15.”

That number varies with the year, of course, and is in decline along with other gun related murders. Using 2014 FBI number of 11,961 ‘depraved heart murders,’ 39 of 11,961 murders, or very slightly more than 3 in 1,000 murders were reported by the media to have been committed with AR-15, AK-47, and similar firearms.

On the other hand, the number wanted is the percentage of the homicide total, which includes murder, manslaughter, and “official intervention” 91 of 14,249 homicidem> victims were killed with military style semiautomatic rifles; the majority by police SWAT teams. That is a per decimal percentage of 0.00073845 or approximately 7 per 1,000 homicides, or 0.0.7 percent.

Yet in the face of this we most remember that 40100 people were killed in auto accidents last year, and 40100 families were destroyed. So why are you so concerned with the tiny percentage of people killed by AR-15 style weapons?

Start counting by 1 and stop when you get to 40100..........

110 people a day are killed in cars, how can you not want cars and vans banned

and there are laws controlling who can drive cars and how to operate them.

your point?

LOL these laws are failing as 110 people DIE PER DAY, and all fools like you care about is the .01 people killes by guns per day

so there shouldn't be laws against murder either, you know, since people get killed.

typical NRA shill propaganda

The point Rosey was making is that, if you really want to have a "public safety" play, then you look at what is the more dangerous first. You seem to ignore that.

Rosy makes a valid point in general, but ignoring valid concerns of parents who are concerned their children may be massacred at school or in a social setting by someone with an AR-15 is frankly not helpful to 2nd amend discussions. It is the "go to" weapon for mass killings. That does not mean it should be "banned."

Yeah, let's just ignore the fact the odds of being shot by an AR on any given day is greater than 4 trillion to one. You have a better chance of hitting the Mega Million and Power Ball lotteries on the same day.


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[iceberg]

There is no getting around the fact that mass shooters choice of weapons has the AR at the top of the list, Gun Bubbas love these hamburger makers.

link please.

really tired of people who just slam w/o proof, knowledge or hell in this case even being correct. but you got your "gun bubbas" slam in so you must be a member of the righteous.

 

[rightwinger]

"What Percentage Of Murders Are Committed With An AR-15?" | Extrano's Alley
Someone came by searching for “what percentage of murders committed with AR[15.”

That number varies with the year, of course, and is in decline along with other gun related murders. Using 2014 FBI number of 11,961 ‘depraved heart murders,’ 39 of 11,961 murders, or very slightly more than 3 in 1,000 murders were reported by the media to have been committed with AR-15, AK-47, and similar firearms.

On the other hand, the number wanted is the percentage of the homicide total, which includes murder, manslaughter, and “official intervention” 91 of 14,249 homicidem> victims were killed with military style semiautomatic rifles; the majority by police SWAT teams. That is a per decimal percentage of 0.00073845 or approximately 7 per 1,000 homicides, or 0.0.7 percent.

Yet in the face of this we most remember that 40100 people were killed in auto accidents last year, and 40100 families were destroyed. So why are you so concerned with the tiny percentage of people killed by AR-15 style weapons?

Start counting by 1 and stop when you get to 40100..........

110 people a day are killed in cars, how can you not want cars and vans banned

We register cars, require the drivers to be trained and licensenced, require owners to insure their cars

Why not do the same with guns

No we don't? What gave you that idea?

Off your meds today, I see

 

[rightwinger]

and there are laws controlling who can drive cars and how to operate them.

your point?

LOL these laws are failing as 110 people DIE PER DAY, and all fools like you care about is the .01 people killes by guns per day

so there shouldn't be laws against murder either, you know, since people get killed.

typical NRA shill propaganda

The point Rosey was making is that, if you really want to have a "public safety" play, then you look at what is the more dangerous first. You seem to ignore that.

Rosy makes a valid point in general, but ignoring valid concerns of parents who are concerned their children may be massacred at school or in a social setting by someone with an AR-15 is frankly not helpful to 2nd amend discussions. It is the "go to" weapon for mass killings. That does not mean it should be "banned."

Yeah, let's just ignore the fact the odds of being shot by an AR on any given day is greater than 4 trillion to one. You have a better chance of hitting the Mega Million and Power Ball lotteries on the same day.


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Yet they are the chosen weapon of mass killers

Why help them get the weapon of choice

 

[rightwinger]

There is no getting around the fact that mass shooters choice of weapons has the AR at the top of the list, Gun Bubbas love these hamburger makers.

No, that's a lie, hand guns are used more often in mass shootings. But let's not let facts get in the way of a good story, right?


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800 lb gorilla in the room

If we really want to do something about our murder rate, we need to address handguns

 

[rightwinger]

"What Percentage Of Murders Are Committed With An AR-15?" | Extrano's Alley
Someone came by searching for “what percentage of murders committed with AR[15.”

That number varies with the year, of course, and is in decline along with other gun related murders. Using 2014 FBI number of 11,961 ‘depraved heart murders,’ 39 of 11,961 murders, or very slightly more than 3 in 1,000 murders were reported by the media to have been committed with AR-15, AK-47, and similar firearms.

On the other hand, the number wanted is the percentage of the homicide total, which includes murder, manslaughter, and “official intervention” 91 of 14,249 homicidem> victims were killed with military style semiautomatic rifles; the majority by police SWAT teams. That is a per decimal percentage of 0.00073845 or approximately 7 per 1,000 homicides, or 0.0.7 percent.

Yet in the face of this we most remember that 40100 people were killed in auto accidents last year, and 40100 families were destroyed. So why are you so concerned with the tiny percentage of people killed by AR-15 style weapons?

Start counting by 1 and stop when you get to 40100..........

110 people a day are killed in cars, how can you not want cars and vans banned

We register cars, require the drivers to be trained and licensenced, require owners to insure their cars

Why not do the same with guns

Why not do the same with refrigerators and toaster ovens? A license is when the government takes away a lawful activity from you, and then sells it back.


.

You really think that is the reason for requiring a license?

 

[bendog]

LOL these laws are failing as 110 people DIE PER DAY, and all fools like you care about is the .01 people killes by guns per day

so there shouldn't be laws against murder either, you know, since people get killed.

typical NRA shill propaganda

The point Rosey was making is that, if you really want to have a "public safety" play, then you look at what is the more dangerous first. You seem to ignore that.

Rosy makes a valid point in general, but ignoring valid concerns of parents who are concerned their children may be massacred at school or in a social setting by someone with an AR-15 is frankly not helpful to 2nd amend discussions. It is the "go to" weapon for mass killings. That does not mean it should be "banned."

Yeah, let's just ignore the fact the odds of being shot by an AR on any given day is greater than 4 trillion to one. You have a better chance of hitting the Mega Million and Power Ball lotteries on the same day.


.

Yet they are the chosen weapon of mass killers

Why help them get the weapon of choice

It's why they aren't to be taken seriously. They lie. Rosy doesn't have that track record imo. It's a valid point that AR-15s are not the gun used in most killings. But it's disingenuous to ignore the valid concerns of parents who send kids to school and social settings with a real fear some nut will kill a whole lot of them in one setting with an AR-15. Rosy may not have intended that. As I said, banning AR-15s is probably legal, but any benefit would outweigh the cost in terms of alienating AR-15 enthusiasts.

Today, the NRA opposes any laws to temporarily take away guns from people displaying violent, erratic behavior, unless they meet the evidentiary standard for involultary commitment. And that's the same as opposing ALL temporary gun seizures. So, imo, we should focus on areas that might do the most good. And I think this area is more likely to help than a gun ban that affects far many law abiding, sane people than criminals.

 

[rightwinger]

so there shouldn't be laws against murder either, you know, since people get killed.

typical NRA shill propaganda

The point Rosey was making is that, if you really want to have a "public safety" play, then you look at what is the more dangerous first. You seem to ignore that.

Rosy makes a valid point in general, but ignoring valid concerns of parents who are concerned their children may be massacred at school or in a social setting by someone with an AR-15 is frankly not helpful to 2nd amend discussions. It is the "go to" weapon for mass killings. That does not mean it should be "banned."

Yeah, let's just ignore the fact the odds of being shot by an AR on any given day is greater than 4 trillion to one. You have a better chance of hitting the Mega Million and Power Ball lotteries on the same day.


.

Yet they are the chosen weapon of mass killers

Why help them get the weapon of choice

It's why they aren't to be taken seriously. They lie. Rosy doesn't have that track record imo. It's a valid point that AR-15s are not the gun used in most killings. But it's disingenuous to ignore the valid concerns of parents who send kids to school and social settings with a real fear some nut will kill a whole lot of them in one setting with an AR-15. Rosy may not have intended that. As I said, banning AR-15s is probably legal, but any benefit would outweigh the cost in terms of alienating AR-15 enthusiasts.

Today, the NRA opposes any laws to temporarily take away guns from people displaying violent, erratic behavior, unless they meet the evidentiary standard for involultary commitment. And that's the same as opposing ALL temporary gun seizures. So, imo, we should focus on areas that might do the most good. And I think this area is more likely to help than a gun ban that affects far many law abiding, sane people than criminals.

A kid wants to shoot up a school and wants the best tool for the job, we sell him an AR 15, 30 round magazines, a bump stock if he wants to impress

 

[OKTexas]

LOL these laws are failing as 110 people DIE PER DAY, and all fools like you care about is the .01 people killes by guns per day

so there shouldn't be laws against murder either, you know, since people get killed.

typical NRA shill propaganda

The point Rosey was making is that, if you really want to have a "public safety" play, then you look at what is the more dangerous first. You seem to ignore that.

Rosy makes a valid point in general, but ignoring valid concerns of parents who are concerned their children may be massacred at school or in a social setting by someone with an AR-15 is frankly not helpful to 2nd amend discussions. It is the "go to" weapon for mass killings. That does not mean it should be "banned."

Yeah, let's just ignore the fact the odds of being shot by an AR on any given day is greater than 4 trillion to one. You have a better chance of hitting the Mega Million and Power Ball lotteries on the same day.


.

Yet they are the chosen weapon of mass killers

Why help them get the weapon of choice

Keep pushing the lie, they've been used 10 times in the last 20 years, hand guns are the preferred weapon of virtually all shooters.


.

 

[bendog]

The point Rosey was making is that, if you really want to have a "public safety" play, then you look at what is the more dangerous first. You seem to ignore that.

Rosy makes a valid point in general, but ignoring valid concerns of parents who are concerned their children may be massacred at school or in a social setting by someone with an AR-15 is frankly not helpful to 2nd amend discussions. It is the "go to" weapon for mass killings. That does not mean it should be "banned."

Yeah, let's just ignore the fact the odds of being shot by an AR on any given day is greater than 4 trillion to one. You have a better chance of hitting the Mega Million and Power Ball lotteries on the same day.


.

Yet they are the chosen weapon of mass killers

Why help them get the weapon of choice

It's why they aren't to be taken seriously. They lie. Rosy doesn't have that track record imo. It's a valid point that AR-15s are not the gun used in most killings. But it's disingenuous to ignore the valid concerns of parents who send kids to school and social settings with a real fear some nut will kill a whole lot of them in one setting with an AR-15. Rosy may not have intended that. As I said, banning AR-15s is probably legal, but any benefit would outweigh the cost in terms of alienating AR-15 enthusiasts.

Today, the NRA opposes any laws to temporarily take away guns from people displaying violent, erratic behavior, unless they meet the evidentiary standard for involultary commitment. And that's the same as opposing ALL temporary gun seizures. So, imo, we should focus on areas that might do the most good. And I think this area is more likely to help than a gun ban that affects far many law abiding, sane people than criminals.

A kid wants to shoot up a school and wants the best tool for the job, we sell him an AR 15, 30 round magazines, a bump stock if he wants to impress

And the NRA opposes raising the age to 21 or even allowing an exception to let an 18 year old buy a defensive weapon. Both the Parkland kid and the current Waffle House whacko were easily identified as people who didn't need to have guns without getting a mental health checkup.

But the NRA wants to scare people with "the liberals are coming for YOUR rifle."

 

[OKTexas]

There is no getting around the fact that mass shooters choice of weapons has the AR at the top of the list, Gun Bubbas love these hamburger makers.

No, that's a lie, hand guns are used more often in mass shootings. But let's not let facts get in the way of a good story, right?


.

800 lb gorilla in the room

If we really want to do something about our murder rate, we need to address handguns

No you need to address the people that use them illegally. Many shooters have histories of involvement with law enforcement, like the guys in FL and TN. Yet neither were ever charged or adjudicated mentally ill. The fact is DAs don't want to spend the money to protect the public.


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[rightwinger]

so there shouldn't be laws against murder either, you know, since people get killed.

typical NRA shill propaganda

The point Rosey was making is that, if you really want to have a "public safety" play, then you look at what is the more dangerous first. You seem to ignore that.

Rosy makes a valid point in general, but ignoring valid concerns of parents who are concerned their children may be massacred at school or in a social setting by someone with an AR-15 is frankly not helpful to 2nd amend discussions. It is the "go to" weapon for mass killings. That does not mean it should be "banned."

Yeah, let's just ignore the fact the odds of being shot by an AR on any given day is greater than 4 trillion to one. You have a better chance of hitting the Mega Million and Power Ball lotteries on the same day.


.

Yet they are the chosen weapon of mass killers

Why help them get the weapon of choice

Keep pushing the lie, they've been used 10 times in the last 20 years, hand guns are the preferred weapon of virtually all shooters.


.

If you want to shoot small schoolchildren .....what better weapon than an AR 15?

Which weapon would you prefer to shoot a six year old?

 

[Pop23]

"What Percentage Of Murders Are Committed With An AR-15?" | Extrano's Alley
Someone came by searching for “what percentage of murders committed with AR[15.”

That number varies with the year, of course, and is in decline along with other gun related murders. Using 2014 FBI number of 11,961 ‘depraved heart murders,’ 39 of 11,961 murders, or very slightly more than 3 in 1,000 murders were reported by the media to have been committed with AR-15, AK-47, and similar firearms.

On the other hand, the number wanted is the percentage of the homicide total, which includes murder, manslaughter, and “official intervention” 91 of 14,249 homicidem> victims were killed with military style semiautomatic rifles; the majority by police SWAT teams. That is a per decimal percentage of 0.00073845 or approximately 7 per 1,000 homicides, or 0.0.7 percent.

Yet in the face of this we most remember that 40100 people were killed in auto accidents last year, and 40100 families were destroyed. So why are you so concerned with the tiny percentage of people killed by AR-15 style weapons?

Start counting by 1 and stop when you get to 40100..........

110 people a day are killed in cars, how can you not want cars and vans banned

We register cars, require the drivers to be trained and licensenced, require owners to insure their cars

Why not do the same with guns

No we don't? What gave you that idea?

Off your meds today, I see

No, you?

No law exist that says you must register a car to purchase one, nor do you even need a drivers license. The only reason either becomes required is if you wish to drive, or to drive a car on a publicly funded roadway.

Now you wanted to use that as the equivalent to owning a gun? I'm good with that. Want to use a gun at a publicly funded shooting range, then one must have a license, training and register the weapon, if not, just like a car, none would be required.

Glad we agree,

 

[Dschrute3]

Fearmongering hysteria. AR's are involved with very few violent crimes. I strongly urge all Americans to read up on what Benjamin Franklin had to say about fear and safety. Folks need to tune out the usual suspect fearmongers, and stay calm. Always err on the side of Freedom & Liberty.

 

[Pop23]

The point Rosey was making is that, if you really want to have a "public safety" play, then you look at what is the more dangerous first. You seem to ignore that.

Rosy makes a valid point in general, but ignoring valid concerns of parents who are concerned their children may be massacred at school or in a social setting by someone with an AR-15 is frankly not helpful to 2nd amend discussions. It is the "go to" weapon for mass killings. That does not mean it should be "banned."

Yeah, let's just ignore the fact the odds of being shot by an AR on any given day is greater than 4 trillion to one. You have a better chance of hitting the Mega Million and Power Ball lotteries on the same day.


.

Yet they are the chosen weapon of mass killers

Why help them get the weapon of choice

Keep pushing the lie, they've been used 10 times in the last 20 years, hand guns are the preferred weapon of virtually all shooters.


.

If you want to shoot small schoolchildren .....what better weapon than an AR 15?

Which weapon would you prefer to shoot a six year old?

^^^^^ idiot playing games with childrens life's.

Six year old schoolchildren die in Chevy's Fords and Jeeps every day.

Which brand would you prefer to run a six year old over with Rightwinger?

 

[bendog]

Rosy makes a valid point in general, but ignoring valid concerns of parents who are concerned their children may be massacred at school or in a social setting by someone with an AR-15 is frankly not helpful to 2nd amend discussions. It is the "go to" weapon for mass killings. That does not mean it should be "banned."

Yeah, let's just ignore the fact the odds of being shot by an AR on any given day is greater than 4 trillion to one. You have a better chance of hitting the Mega Million and Power Ball lotteries on the same day.


.

Yet they are the chosen weapon of mass killers

Why help them get the weapon of choice

Keep pushing the lie, they've been used 10 times in the last 20 years, hand guns are the preferred weapon of virtually all shooters.


.

If you want to shoot small schoolchildren .....what better weapon than an AR 15?

Which weapon would you prefer to shoot a six year old?

^^^^^ idiot playing games with childrens life's.


Six year old schoolchildren die in Chevy's Fords and Jeeps every day.

Which brand would you prefer to run a six year old over with Rightwinger?

And on cue ... in walks deflection. LOL

Well, with best wishes to Rosy, it was a deflection thread.

 

[Pop23]

The point Rosey was making is that, if you really want to have a "public safety" play, then you look at what is the more dangerous first. You seem to ignore that.

Rosy makes a valid point in general, but ignoring valid concerns of parents who are concerned their children may be massacred at school or in a social setting by someone with an AR-15 is frankly not helpful to 2nd amend discussions. It is the "go to" weapon for mass killings. That does not mean it should be "banned."

Yeah, let's just ignore the fact the odds of being shot by an AR on any given day is greater than 4 trillion to one. You have a better chance of hitting the Mega Million and Power Ball lotteries on the same day.


.

Yet they are the chosen weapon of mass killers

Why help them get the weapon of choice

It's why they aren't to be taken seriously. They lie. Rosy doesn't have that track record imo. It's a valid point that AR-15s are not the gun used in most killings. But it's disingenuous to ignore the valid concerns of parents who send kids to school and social settings with a real fear some nut will kill a whole lot of them in one setting with an AR-15. Rosy may not have intended that. As I said, banning AR-15s is probably legal, but any benefit would outweigh the cost in terms of alienating AR-15 enthusiasts.

Today, the NRA opposes any laws to temporarily take away guns from people displaying violent, erratic behavior, unless they meet the evidentiary standard for involultary commitment. And that's the same as opposing ALL temporary gun seizures. So, imo, we should focus on areas that might do the most good. And I think this area is more likely to help than a gun ban that affects far many law abiding, sane people than criminals.

A kid wants to shoot up a school and wants the best tool for the job, we sell him an AR 15, 30 round magazines, a bump stock if he wants to impress

AND, don't forget what happened before he even went to the gun shop, chances are, he was put on an SSRI antidepressant (which most, if not all mass shooters we one), given to him by some dude in a white coat.

But that parts OK, Right?

 

[Pop23]

Yeah, let's just ignore the fact the odds of being shot by an AR on any given day is greater than 4 trillion to one. You have a better chance of hitting the Mega Million and Power Ball lotteries on the same day.


.

Yet they are the chosen weapon of mass killers

Why help them get the weapon of choice

Keep pushing the lie, they've been used 10 times in the last 20 years, hand guns are the preferred weapon of virtually all shooters.


.

If you want to shoot small schoolchildren .....what better weapon than an AR 15?

Which weapon would you prefer to shoot a six year old?

^^^^^ idiot playing games with childrens life's.


Six year old schoolchildren die in Chevy's Fords and Jeeps every day.

Which brand would you prefer to run a six year old over with Rightwinger?

And on cue ... in walks deflection. LOL

Well, with best wishes to Rosy, it was a deflection thread.

I see, you exposed yourself as someone who would rather play politics with kids lifes. Why does that not surprise me.

 

[OKTexas]

"What Percentage Of Murders Are Committed With An AR-15?" | Extrano's Alley
Someone came by searching for “what percentage of murders committed with AR[15.”

That number varies with the year, of course, and is in decline along with other gun related murders. Using 2014 FBI number of 11,961 ‘depraved heart murders,’ 39 of 11,961 murders, or very slightly more than 3 in 1,000 murders were reported by the media to have been committed with AR-15, AK-47, and similar firearms.

On the other hand, the number wanted is the percentage of the homicide total, which includes murder, manslaughter, and “official intervention” 91 of 14,249 homicidem> victims were killed with military style semiautomatic rifles; the majority by police SWAT teams. That is a per decimal percentage of 0.00073845 or approximately 7 per 1,000 homicides, or 0.0.7 percent.

Yet in the face of this we most remember that 40100 people were killed in auto accidents last year, and 40100 families were destroyed. So why are you so concerned with the tiny percentage of people killed by AR-15 style weapons?

Start counting by 1 and stop when you get to 40100..........

110 people a day are killed in cars, how can you not want cars and vans banned

We register cars, require the drivers to be trained and licensenced, require owners to insure their cars

Why not do the same with guns

Why not do the same with refrigerators and toaster ovens? A license is when the government takes away a lawful activity from you, and then sells it back.


.

You really think that is the reason for requiring a license?

Yep, it's all about government control. Let's say you want to open a convenience store, how many licenses do you think you'd would need to sell perfectly legal products?


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[Pop23]

Rosy makes a valid point in general, but ignoring valid concerns of parents who are concerned their children may be massacred at school or in a social setting by someone with an AR-15 is frankly not helpful to 2nd amend discussions. It is the "go to" weapon for mass killings. That does not mean it should be "banned."

Yeah, let's just ignore the fact the odds of being shot by an AR on any given day is greater than 4 trillion to one. You have a better chance of hitting the Mega Million and Power Ball lotteries on the same day.


.

Yet they are the chosen weapon of mass killers

Why help them get the weapon of choice

It's why they aren't to be taken seriously. They lie. Rosy doesn't have that track record imo. It's a valid point that AR-15s are not the gun used in most killings. But it's disingenuous to ignore the valid concerns of parents who send kids to school and social settings with a real fear some nut will kill a whole lot of them in one setting with an AR-15. Rosy may not have intended that. As I said, banning AR-15s is probably legal, but any benefit would outweigh the cost in terms of alienating AR-15 enthusiasts.

Today, the NRA opposes any laws to temporarily take away guns from people displaying violent, erratic behavior, unless they meet the evidentiary standard for involultary commitment. And that's the same as opposing ALL temporary gun seizures. So, imo, we should focus on areas that might do the most good. And I think this area is more likely to help than a gun ban that affects far many law abiding, sane people than criminals.

A kid wants to shoot up a school and wants the best tool for the job, we sell him an AR 15, 30 round magazines, a bump stock if he wants to impress

And the NRA opposes raising the age to 21 or even allowing an exception to let an 18 year old buy a defensive weapon. Both the Parkland kid and the current Waffle House whacko were easily identified as people who didn't need to have guns without getting a mental health checkup.

But the NRA wants to scare people with "the liberals are coming for YOUR rifle."

But this same 18 year old can drive a Tank? Okay then