What should happen to kids of illegal aliens being deported?

[Jackson]

They will go as a family. Trump doesn't want to break up families

-Geaux

You can't deport an American citizen.

They should NOT be considered as citizens.

If they're born here, they're a citizen, Sparky.

If their parents cme over illegally, then they have to go.

Wow, so compassionate and caring, deport children to crime ridden and impoverished mexico.

THEY SHOULDN'T BE HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE!

 

[David_42]

Many come to the "land of the free" and seek the "american dream." Can you blame them for leaving and seeking to come to america? I won't.
How Immigrants Boost U.S. Economic Growth The Fiscal Times

Can you blame them for leaving and seeking to come to America?

I don't blame them, but if they're illegals, they should go back.

Yeah, deport them back to communist cuba. Good idea.

Sure, after we deport 10 or 12 million illegals, we can start deporting Cubans.

*sigh* No hope. Go join the new gestapo.

{{sigh}} No hope. Go join the Communist Party, if you are not a member now.

Registered democrat, sorry.

 

[Obiwan]

Don't deport illegals, give them a path to citizenship. Unless you pro lifers want to see children go back to bad countries for them.

It's their country. It's where they belong.

Many come to the "land of the free" and seek the "american dream." Can you blame them for leaving and seeking to come to america? I won't.
How Immigrants Boost U.S. Economic Growth The Fiscal Times

Can you blame them for leaving and seeking to come to America?

I don't blame them, but if they're illegals, they should go back.

Yeah, deport them back to communist cuba. Good idea.

Then multiply our 50% poverty rate by 100%. Really, do you expect our taxpayers to support open borders, and give welfare to anyone who gets in, can't legally get a job, and needs to eat???

Oh, wait.... They can have our jobs.....

 

[David_42]

So what are you suggesting here? That we, the United States Citizens, change our entire immigration system because of the "children" so we don't have to feel bad?

No, we change it because it's the sensible thing to do. This country was built on immigration. A hundred years ago people were coming here on boats by the tens of thousands and we had them sign their name in a book and be on there way and I'd say everything turned out pretty damn good in the long term. Now we've made it so absurdly complicated and time consuming that people are skirting the law. Unless you're intent on applying brute force that's what happens.

Let me tell you something, I'm sick of changing for them. I'm sick of having to press 1 to speak our language. I'm sick of having to choose between an English ballot or Spanish ballot at the voting places. I'm sick of having to change for them.

Oh, you poor baby! You have to choose between two?? That must be so incredibly trying for you. Most countries in the world have more than one official language spoken. Go to Canada and you'll find everything in English and French. Go to Europe and you'll find things reprinted in many different languages. Last time I was in Barcelona I ate at a restaurant where I could choose the language of my menu. Why is it that if somehow we have two widely spoken languages in the U.S. instead of just English that suddenly mean shit's going to come crashing down? That's just your xenophobia speaking.

Hey! I was here first. It's about time you change for me--not the other way around.

Yeah, I'm guessing a lot of Native American Indian tribes are going to disagree with you on that one.

People of any country have the right to fight in defense when they are being invaded, and yes, we are being invaded.

They are changing our language, changing our rate of pay, changing our laws. Taking jobs away from real Americans. What other country allows this besides the US?

You "surrender first" Americans better think about what you're giving up in return to feel all warm and fuzzy inside. So yes, I will choose to fight to keep our country the way it is, and hopefully return it to the way it was.

Then go grab your guns and start shooting suspected illegal immigrants because they're brown. After all, we're enduring a full scale invasion.

 

[bripat9643]

They will go as a family. Trump doesn't want to break up families

-Geaux

You can't deport an American citizen.

They should NOT be considered as citizens.

If they're born here, they're a citizen, Sparky.

If their parents cme over illegally, then they have to go.

Wow, so compassionate and caring, deport children to crime ridden and impoverished mexico.

It's "compassionate" of you to make American kids compete with labor from third world countries.

It's their country. Let them fix it. Why should Americans pay the price for their problems?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It's their country. It's where they belong.

Many come to the "land of the free" and seek the "american dream." Can you blame them for leaving and seeking to come to america? I won't.
How Immigrants Boost U.S. Economic Growth The Fiscal Times

Can you blame them for leaving and seeking to come to America?

I don't blame them, but if they're illegals, they should go back.

Yeah, deport them back to communist cuba. Good idea.

Sure, after we deport 10 or 12 million illegals, we can start deporting Cubans.

*sigh* No hope. Go join the new gestapo.

Gestapo? Sending Cubans back to all their free healthcare and 100% literacy? LOL!

 

[bripat9643]

So what are you suggesting here? That we, the United States Citizens, change our entire immigration system because of the "children" so we don't have to feel bad?

No, we change it because it's the sensible thing to do. This country was built on immigration. A hundred years ago people were coming here on boats by the tens of thousands and we had them sign their name in a book and be on there way and I'd say everything turned out pretty damn good in the long term. Now we've made it so absurdly complicated and time consuming that people are skirting the law. Unless you're intent on applying brute force that's what happens.

Let me tell you something, I'm sick of changing for them. I'm sick of having to press 1 to speak our language. I'm sick of having to choose between an English ballot or Spanish ballot at the voting places. I'm sick of having to change for them.

Oh, you poor baby! You have to choose between two?? That must be so incredibly trying for you. Most countries in the world have more than one official language spoken. Go to Canada and you'll find everything in English and French. Go to Europe and you'll find things reprinted in many different languages. Last time I was in Barcelona I ate at a restaurant where I could choose the language of my menu. Why is it that if somehow we have two widely spoken languages in the U.S. instead of just English that suddenly mean shit's going to come crashing down? That's just your xenophobia speaking.

Hey! I was here first. It's about time you change for me--not the other way around.

Yeah, I'm guessing a lot of Native American Indian tribes are going to disagree with you on that one.

People of any country have the right to fight in defense when they are being invaded, and yes, we are being invaded.

They are changing our language, changing our rate of pay, changing our laws. Taking jobs away from real Americans. What other country allows this besides the US?

You "surrender first" Americans better think about what you're giving up in return to feel all warm and fuzzy inside. So yes, I will choose to fight to keep our country the way it is, and hopefully return it to the way it was.

Then go grab your guns and start shooting suspected illegal immigrants because they're brown. After all, we're enduring a full scale invasion.

ROFL! Libs never fail to go totally mental whenever they're losing an argument.

 

[Vigilante]

Fuck compassion, it cost between $100 and $113 BILLION a year to take care of all the UNDOCUMENTED DEMOCRATS.... get rid of the shit...NOW!

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

You're wrong about what happened 100 years ago. We had strict quotas then. People had to get an immigration visa before they could come.

No other country has wide open borders like ours. They all strictly limit immigration. Why should we accept all the human refuse of the entire world?

No, the strict quotas didn't come into play until the 1920s, mainly after the Red Scare in Russia and World War I, and largely because people were afraid a massive wave of immigration from Europe following the war would result in skyrocketing unemployment rates, which turned out to be without any merit, the same argument many of you are making now, by the way. A lot of those quotas were also racist in nature and aimed at keeping certain ethnic groups out of the country, like Asians and Africans, to avoid "browning" the country. Look up the term "Yellow Peril."

 

[David_42]

So what are you suggesting here? That we, the United States Citizens, change our entire immigration system because of the "children" so we don't have to feel bad?

No, we change it because it's the sensible thing to do. This country was built on immigration. A hundred years ago people were coming here on boats by the tens of thousands and we had them sign their name in a book and be on there way and I'd say everything turned out pretty damn good in the long term. Now we've made it so absurdly complicated and time consuming that people are skirting the law. Unless you're intent on applying brute force that's what happens.

Let me tell you something, I'm sick of changing for them. I'm sick of having to press 1 to speak our language. I'm sick of having to choose between an English ballot or Spanish ballot at the voting places. I'm sick of having to change for them.

Oh, you poor baby! You have to choose between two?? That must be so incredibly trying for you. Most countries in the world have more than one official language spoken. Go to Canada and you'll find everything in English and French. Go to Europe and you'll find things reprinted in many different languages. Last time I was in Barcelona I ate at a restaurant where I could choose the language of my menu. Why is it that if somehow we have two widely spoken languages in the U.S. instead of just English that suddenly mean shit's going to come crashing down? That's just your xenophobia speaking.

Hey! I was here first. It's about time you change for me--not the other way around.

Yeah, I'm guessing a lot of Native American Indian tribes are going to disagree with you on that one.

People of any country have the right to fight in defense when they are being invaded, and yes, we are being invaded.

They are changing our language, changing our rate of pay, changing our laws. Taking jobs away from real Americans. What other country allows this besides the US?

You "surrender first" Americans better think about what you're giving up in return to feel all warm and fuzzy inside. So yes, I will choose to fight to keep our country the way it is, and hopefully return it to the way it was.

Then go grab your guns and start shooting suspected illegal immigrants because they're brown. After all, we're enduring a full scale invasion.

ROFL! Libs never fail to go totally mental whenever they're losing an argument.

Did you read his post?

 

[Obiwan]

Don't deport illegals, give them a path to citizenship. Unless you pro lifers want to see children go back to bad countries for them.

It's their country. It's where they belong.

Many come to the "land of the free" and seek the "american dream." Can you blame them for leaving and seeking to come to america? I won't.
How Immigrants Boost U.S. Economic Growth The Fiscal Times

Can you blame them for leaving and seeking to come to America?

I don't blame them, but if they're illegals, they should go back.

Yeah, deport them back to communist cuba. Good idea.

Sure, after we deport 10 or 12 million illegals, we can start deporting Cubans.

We can' t deport Cubans. Obozo loves then, so that would offend the Messiah.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Don't deport illegals, give them a path to citizenship. Unless you pro lifers want to see children go back to bad countries for them.

Give them a path to Citizenship.....need more pro lifers here in the USA. Glad you agree that Mexico, Guatemala, and El Salvador are bad countries.

 

[Jackson]

Fuck compassion, it cost between $100 and $113 BILLION a year to take care of all the UNDOCUMENTED DEMOCRATS.... get rid of the shit...NOW!

A vote for Trump is a step in the right direction. We need that wall!

 

[David_42]

Many come to the "land of the free" and seek the "american dream." Can you blame them for leaving and seeking to come to america? I won't.
How Immigrants Boost U.S. Economic Growth The Fiscal Times

Can you blame them for leaving and seeking to come to America?

I don't blame them, but if they're illegals, they should go back.

Yeah, deport them back to communist cuba. Good idea.

Sure, after we deport 10 or 12 million illegals, we can start deporting Cubans.

*sigh* No hope. Go join the new gestapo.

Gestapo? Sending Cubans back to all their free healthcare and 100% literacy? LOL!

While I'll admit cubans have a high literacy rate and decent healthcare compared to other third world countries, it is a horrible place run by dictators.

 

[gallantwarrior]

It's a pretty common scenario today. Illegal alien parents who produced kids in the U.S., get busted and deported. What happens to their U.S. citizen kids? Especially young kids, barely past toddler stage?

An adult man crosses the border illegally, and lives here. He marries someone, say another illegal alien. They have kids here. The kids are U.S. citizens under the current interpretation of the 14th amendment, since they were born on U.S. soil.

Then the man (and maybe his wife) get busted by ICE, proven to be illegal aliens (which they in fact are), and get listed for deportation.

What happens to the kids?

The kids are U.S. citizens, no doubt about it. ICE has no grounds whatever for deporting them. But the parents are unquestionably illegal aliens, and the law is clear, the parents must be deported. Must the family be broken up? Who says so?

I've hear some people protest that it's inhuman for ICE to separate the kids (who are, say, 3 and 4 years old by now) from their parents. But is it ICE who is actually doing that?

This man knew before he ever came here, that he was breaking U.S. law, and was subject to deportation if caught. And his wife, if she is also an illegal alien, knew the same about herself. And when they were making kids here on U.S. soil and delivering them, they knew the same was still true.

It's not ICE who is planning to split up this family. It is the man and his wife, knowing that he and she might be booted out at any time for breaking U.S. immigration law, and that any kids they produced while living illegally in America, would be citizens NOT subject to deporation. They knew all these things going in. And one must assume they planned for them. (If they didn't plan, whose fault is that?)

So, what did this man and his wife plan would happen to their U.S. kids if and when they (the parents) got busted and deported? What plans did they make about what should happen to their kids? The kids are 3 and 4 years old now. They are considered U.S. citizens and have the legal right to stay in this country. Of course, they can't stay alone in the house their parents were just deported out of, if there are no other responsible adults around - the kids are just 3 and 4 years old. Of course, the kids also have the legal right to go with their parents back to the parents' home country.

The parents knew going in, that their own deportation was possible and legal... and even just. WHAT DID THEY PLAN FOR THEIR KIDS if that were to happen to them?

Did they plan that those kids would come back to the parents' home country with them? Or did they plan that the kids would stay with other (legal) family, however distantly related, in the U.S.? Or...? What DID these parents plan, for the time when the parents got busted?

Where does anyone get the idea that the government is responsible for the kids?

The parents are responsible for their kids. What have they planned?

Pretty simple, really...the kids have US birth certificates. If parents are deported, the kids go with them. When they reach majority age, those kids are permitted to choose to become US citizens. They may then relocate to CONUS and apply to import their relatives the same as any other naturalized citizen.

 

[Jackson]

It's their country. It's where they belong.

Many come to the "land of the free" and seek the "american dream." Can you blame them for leaving and seeking to come to america? I won't.
How Immigrants Boost U.S. Economic Growth The Fiscal Times

Can you blame them for leaving and seeking to come to America?

I don't blame them, but if they're illegals, they should go back.

Yeah, deport them back to communist cuba. Good idea.

Sure, after we deport 10 or 12 million illegals, we can start deporting Cubans.

We can' t deport Cubans. Obozo loves then, so that would offend the Messiah.

His days are numbered...

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Yes, it is a valid comparison. American families move without their children's permission. Sometimes it is state to state other times it's to another country,

Exactly. You see it on the show House Hunters International all the time. The parents decide they want to live outside our country or otherwise have to move overseas because of work. The kids have no choice but to go with them.

Exactly, the parents decide. Are you seeing the difference here? The government is making the decision here so you have the government kicking out American citizens with their parents or according to some of your comrades here we can throw them in an orphanage.

So, if the parents are breaking the law, you propose what? Criminal activity by harboring fugitives, a life of welfare and poverty when the parents can't get a job, or a fresh start at age 18?

You don't think sending them back to the third world with filth and drug cartel violence is sending them in to a life of poverty? Why the hell do you think these people came here in the first place?

Why don't they do something about their own country? Have a revolution and clean up the dishonesty in government.

Ideally, that would be great, but it's easier said than done, isn't it. Furthermore, our own foreign and domestic policies have played a large role in why some of those countries have the problems they do, like our asinine War on Drugs, for instance.

 

[David_42]

Exactly. You see it on the show House Hunters International all the time. The parents decide they want to live outside our country or otherwise have to move overseas because of work. The kids have no choice but to go with them.

Exactly, the parents decide. Are you seeing the difference here? The government is making the decision here so you have the government kicking out American citizens with their parents or according to some of your comrades here we can throw them in an orphanage.

So, if the parents are breaking the law, you propose what? Criminal activity by harboring fugitives, a life of welfare and poverty when the parents can't get a job, or a fresh start at age 18?

You don't think sending them back to the third world with filth and drug cartel violence is sending them in to a life of poverty? Why the hell do you think these people came here in the first place?

Why don't they do something about their own country? Have a revolution and clean up the dishonesty in government.

Ideally, that would be great, but it's easier said than done, isn't it. Furthermore, our own foreign and domestic policies have played a large role in why some of those countries have the problems they do, like our asinine War on Drugs, for instance.

Exactly, and I doubt, given the history of us foreign policy, we'd people have a revolution.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

They will go as a family. Trump doesn't want to break up families

-Geaux

You can't deport an American citizen.

They should NOT be considered as citizens.

If they're born here, they're a citizen, Sparky.

If their parents cme over illegally, then they have to go.

You will lose that battle in the courts, I assure you. I've already covered these points and I'm not doing a round robin with you people.

 

[gallantwarrior]

Don't deport illegals, give them a path to citizenship.

They already have one, and have had it for decades. It's called "Apply for a green card and visa". Millions of foreigners have done it and are now here (legally) and happy. Once they get their green card, it's just a matter of time before they can apply for (and be granted) citizenship.

As for those who have deliberately broken U.S. immigration (or other) law and are here illegally, they too have "path to citizenship", it's the same thing. In their case it must be preceded by "Go back to your home country first". Or else they should never get citizenship.

Why shuld illegal aliens who broke our laws, be jumped to the front of the line ahead of people who obeyed our laws, filled out all the papers, paid the fees, did everything right, and are now patently waiting?

Immigration Reform How Hard Is It To Become A US Citizen Play The Game INTERACTIVE GAME

If it is worth it, they will jump through the requisite hoops. Earn it!!!