candycorn
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Why do conservapubs constantly focus their hate on the poor and the helpless?
They have no constituency so it's easy to attack the powerless. It's what bullies do.
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Why do conservapubs constantly focus their hate on the poor and the helpless?
Because they broke the law to be here. How do you propose we reward a rapist, a robber, a embezzler, or any other criminal?The parents would be the ones deported. The children would simply be going along for the ride since the parents have legal custody. If the parents can find someone legally in the states to transfer legal custody of the children, the children could stay.They will go as a family. Trump doesn't want to break up families
-Geaux
You can't deport an American citizen.
So the choice is either the American citizen gets booted out of his own country to stay with his family or he gets left with someone else.
Why not just give them a fucking green card so they can stay and work. Wouldn't that be a hell of a lot simpler?
Also, the constitution needs to be amended so that there are no more anchor babies.
Will that mean that Mia Love will be deported. I can almost agree with you if that is the case.
almost.
Why do conservapubs constantly focus their hate on the poor and the helpless?
They have no constituency so it's easy to attack the powerless. It's what bullies do.
It's a pretty common scenario today. Illegal alien parents who produced kids in the U.S., get busted and deported. What happens to their U.S. citizen kids? Especially young kids, barely past toddler stage?
An adult man crosses the border illegally, and lives here. He marries someone, say another illegal alien. They have kids here. The kids are U.S. citizens under the current interpretation of the 14th amendment, since they were born on U.S. soil.
Then the man (and maybe his wife) get busted by ICE, proven to be illegal aliens (which they in fact are), and get listed for deportation.
What happens to the kids?
The kids are U.S. citizens, no doubt about it. ICE has no grounds whatever for deporting them. But the parents are unquestionably illegal aliens, and the law is clear, the parents must be deported. Must the family be broken up? Who says so?
I've hear some people protest that it's inhuman for ICE to separate the kids (who are, say, 3 and 4 years old by now) from their parents. But is it ICE who is actually doing that?
This man knew before he ever came here, that he was breaking U.S. law, and was subject to deportation if caught. And his wife, if she is also an illegal alien, knew the same about herself. And when they were making kids here on U.S. soil and delivering them, they knew the same was still true.
It's not ICE who is planning to split up this family. It is the man and his wife, knowing that he and she might be booted out at any time for breaking U.S. immigration law, and that any kids they produced while living illegally in America, would be citizens NOT subject to deporation. They knew all these things going in. And one must assume they planned for them. (If they didn't plan, whose fault is that?)
So, what did this man and his wife plan would happen to their U.S. kids if and when they (the parents) got busted and deported? What plans did they make about what should happen to their kids? The kids are 3 and 4 years old now. They are considered U.S. citizens and have the legal right to stay in this country. Of course, they can't stay alone in the house their parents were just deported out of, if there are no other responsible adults around - the kids are just 3 and 4 years old. Of course, the kids also have the legal right to go with their parents back to the parents' home country.
The parents knew going in, that their own deportation was possible and legal... and even just. WHAT DID THEY PLAN FOR THEIR KIDS if that were to happen to them?
Did they plan that those kids would come back to the parents' home country with them? Or did they plan that the kids would stay with other (legal) family, however distantly related, in the U.S.? Or...? What DID these parents plan, for the time when the parents got busted?
Where does anyone get the idea that the government is responsible for the kids?
The parents are responsible for their kids. What have they planned?
Immigration Reform How Hard Is It To Become A US Citizen Play The Game INTERACTIVE GAMEThey already have one, and have had it for decades. It's called "Apply for a green card and visa". Millions of foreigners have done it and are now here (legally) and happy. Once they get their green card, it's just a matter of time before they can apply for (and be granted) citizenship.Don't deport illegals, give them a path to citizenship.
As for those who have deliberately broken U.S. immigration (or other) law and are here illegally, they too have "path to citizenship", it's the same thing. In their case it must be preceded by "Go back to your home country first". Or else they should never get citizenship.
Why shuld illegal aliens who broke our laws, be jumped to the front of the line ahead of people who obeyed our laws, filled out all the papers, paid the fees, did everything right, and are now patently waiting?
Here comes the Hillary troll...Also, the constitution needs to be amended so that there are no more anchor babies.
Will that mean that Mia Love will be deported. I can almost agree with you if that is the case.
almost.
Many come to the "land of the free" and seek the "american dream." Can you blame them for leaving and seeking to come to america? I won't.It's their country. It's where they belong.Don't deport illegals, give them a path to citizenship. Unless you pro lifers want to see children go back to bad countries for them.
How Immigrants Boost U.S. Economic Growth The Fiscal Times
They become wards of the state and are then supported by the taxpayers.The kids are U.S. citizens under the current interpretation of the 14th amendment, since they were born on U.S. soil.
Then the man (and maybe his wife) get busted by ICE, proven to be illegal aliens (which they in fact are), and get listed for deportation.
What happens to the kids?
U.S. citizens born here go to prison and are separated from their families every day. Why is this different?It's a pretty common scenario today. Illegal alien parents who produced kids in the U.S., get busted and deported. What happens to their U.S. citizen kids? Especially young kids, barely past toddler stage?
An adult man crosses the border illegally, and lives here. He marries someone, say another illegal alien. They have kids here. The kids are U.S. citizens under the current interpretation of the 14th amendment, since they were born on U.S. soil.
Then the man (and maybe his wife) get busted by ICE, proven to be illegal aliens (which they in fact are), and get listed for deportation.
What happens to the kids?
The kids are U.S. citizens, no doubt about it. ICE has no grounds whatever for deporting them. But the parents are unquestionably illegal aliens, and the law is clear, the parents must be deported. Must the family be broken up? Who says so?
I've hear some people protest that it's inhuman for ICE to separate the kids (who are, say, 3 and 4 years old by now) from their parents. But is it ICE who is actually doing that?
This man knew before he ever came here, that he was breaking U.S. law, and was subject to deportation if caught. And his wife, if she is also an illegal alien, knew the same about herself. And when they were making kids here on U.S. soil and delivering them, they knew the same was still true.
It's not ICE who is planning to split up this family. It is the man and his wife, knowing that he and she might be booted out at any time for breaking U.S. immigration law, and that any kids they produced while living illegally in America, would be citizens NOT subject to deporation. They knew all these things going in. And one must assume they planned for them. (If they didn't plan, whose fault is that?)
So, what did this man and his wife plan would happen to their U.S. kids if and when they (the parents) got busted and deported? What plans did they make about what should happen to their kids? The kids are 3 and 4 years old now. They are considered U.S. citizens and have the legal right to stay in this country. Of course, they can't stay alone in the house their parents were just deported out of, if there are no other responsible adults around - the kids are just 3 and 4 years old. Of course, the kids also have the legal right to go with their parents back to the parents' home country.
The parents knew going in, that their own deportation was possible and legal... and even just. WHAT DID THEY PLAN FOR THEIR KIDS if that were to happen to them?
Did they plan that those kids would come back to the parents' home country with them? Or did they plan that the kids would stay with other (legal) family, however distantly related, in the U.S.? Or...? What DID these parents plan, for the time when the parents got busted?
Where does anyone get the idea that the government is responsible for the kids?
The parents are responsible for their kids. What have they planned?
And there is the ONLY reason the Right wants the illegals gone, GOP hate radio has told then that every one of them will vote for the Democratic Party.Fuck compassion, it cost between $100 and $113 BILLION a year to take care of all the UNDOCUMENTED DEMOCRATS.... get rid of the shit...NOW!
Why do conservapubs constantly focus their hate on the poor and the helpless?
They have no constituency so it's easy to attack the powerless. It's what bullies do.
And there is the ONLY reason the Right wants the illegals gone, GOP hate radio has told then that every one of them will vote for the Democratic Party.Fuck compassion, it cost between $100 and $113 BILLION a year to take care of all the UNDOCUMENTED DEMOCRATS.... get rid of the shit...NOW!
They become wards of the state and are then supported by the taxpayers.The kids are U.S. citizens under the current interpretation of the 14th amendment, since they were born on U.S. soil.
Then the man (and maybe his wife) get busted by ICE, proven to be illegal aliens (which they in fact are), and get listed for deportation.
What happens to the kids?
The tax payers thank you Drumpf Truck!
What culture is that?True, they favored Europeans. IN other words, they favored people who share our culture.
Translation: White people.
Can't have too many of those brown people from south of the border here, can we.
No, actually. Why do you want to flood this country with a culture that is totally alien to ours?
Why do conservapubs constantly focus their hate on the poor and the helpless?
They have no constituency so it's easy to attack the powerless. It's what bullies do.