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dear too stupid and liberal, If capitalism did not encourage the best products possible we would evolving toward the stone ago rather than toward the space age.I asked for a list, not a fairy tale.
dear too stupid and liberal, If capitalism did not encourage the best products possible we would evolving toward the stone ago rather than toward the space age.
See why we have to be 100% positive that liberalism is based in pure ignorance?
I asked for a list, not unsubstantiated bullshit.
Are you going to tell me that conservatives are opposed to corporate welfare?
dear too stupid and liberal, If capitalism did not encourage the best products possible we would evolving toward the stone ago rather than toward the space age.I asked for a list, not a fairy tale.
dear too stupid and liberal, If capitalism did not encourage the best products possible we would evolving toward the stone ago rather than toward the space age.
See why we have to be 100% positive that liberalism is based in pure ignorance?
I asked for a list, not unsubstantiated bullshit.
See why we have to be 100% positive that liberalism is based in pure ignorance?
Are you going to tell me that conservatives are opposed to corporate welfare?
yes conservatives are for capitalism in general.
if we had limited conservative govt there would be no point in bribing politicansI don't blame business, I blame the bribed Representatives.
I'm waiting for the list.
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if we had limited conservative govt there would be no point in bribing politicansI don't blame business, I blame the bribed Representatives.
I'm waiting for the list.
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dear too stupid and liberal , we are waiting for the self driving car not the horse and buggy.
What does that teach you??
If Ron or Rand Paul were President business would have no rules at all.
It would be a total catastrophe.
What the fuck are you talking about now? Your thinking is so concrete, ridged and narrow that you can only understand capitalism vs. socialism and cannot fathom the concept that the two represent two ends of a continuum on which there are many variations and combinations of the two systems.Are you going to tell me that conservatives are opposed to corporate welfare?
yes conservatives are for capitalism in general while liberals are for socialism or crony socialism like Obamacare..
dear too stupid and liberal , we are waiting for the self driving car not the horse and buggy.I'm waiting for the list.
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dear too stupid and liberal , we are waiting for the self driving car not the horse and buggy.
What does that teach you??
The list please. Put up reality or shut up theory.
the two represent two ends of a continuum.
As far as Obama care goes, to call that socialism is ridiculous and shows how little that you understand about what socialism actually is.
I understand that you are too stupid to understand much. There, are you happy? You dragged me down to your level of discourse. My work is done hereAs far as Obama care goes, to call that socialism is ridiculous and shows how little that you understand about what socialism actually is.
dear too stupid, Obamacare is the exact opposite of capitalism. Rather, it represents the violent liberal control of the heath care system which is about 20% of our entire economy.
Now do you understand?
I understand that you are too stupid to understand much. There, are you happy? You dragged me down to your level of discourse. My work is done hereAs far as Obama care goes, to call that socialism is ridiculous and shows how little that you understand about what socialism actually is.
dear too stupid, Obamacare is the exact opposite of capitalism. Rather, it represents the violent liberal control of the heath care system which is about 20% of our entire economy.
Now do you understand?
I've seen and experienced great things in countries that are more geared to socialism. The happiest rated countries in the world are all highly socialistic countries. Why can't we do what we already know that works?
Do you think that Bernie Sanders' form of socialism espouses is government ownership of the means of production and distribution. ? Or, could it be that all socialism is not the same? Why is it that you and so many others ignore the complexity of what socialism is or might be in different political contexts? Must you always just dumb it down for mass consumption? Either you do it deliberately or, more likely, it is you who has no idea what you are advocating.Socialism is government ownership of the means of production and distribution. Twentieth century experience with socialism was failure. Twenty first century experience has been no different ie Venezuela. I am amazed that so many who espouse socialism have no idea what they are espousing.
You are trying to make a distinction which really isn't valid.
Socialism does not require ownership.
Herman Rauschning wrote a book called "Hitler Speaks" in which he wrote up discussions he had with the man. In one such, Hitler is to have said "We don't need to take your cow so long as we own you. Who cares about whether we actually own the firm in name? So long as we have complete control over the people running it, that's good enough."
Now some debate the validity of the book, but regardless the point made is 100% accurate.
If government has control..... it doesn't matter if they own it in law, or not.
If I give you $10... it's your $10... you own it $10. But then I dictate who you can give it to, what you can buy, and what you can't buy, and when you can spend it, and when you can't......... you own it... legally it's yours. But practically speaking, I have control. I don't need to own that $10, as long as I control, regulate, mandate, and limit you.
No Sanders does not yet advocate open direct government ownership of companies.
He does advocate control over companies, from how much they pay, to what they spend, to their investments, to who they fire, and who they hire. That is as socialist as it gets.
Let's see if I have this right " "We don't need to take your cow so long as we own you" quote from your post. Are you seriously proposing slavery? If Sanders proposal is to enslave the producers I can't imagine anything more heinous. I abhor socialism but I hate slavery and anyone who advocates it. Your vision is more heinous than Orwells'. I cannot believe that anyone would advocate slavery. In your world every producer would necessarily be the property of the state and you believe that to be good for people.
I hope you and all those who would enslave their fellow man die a slow and horrendously painful death. I have nothing further to say to you slaver.
Well again.....
If I give you $10... it's your $10... you own it $10. But then I dictate who you can give it to, what you can buy, and what you can't buy, and when you can spend it, and when you can't......... you own it... legally it's yours. But practically speaking, I have control. I don't need to own that $10, as long as I control, regulate, mandate, and limit you.
And it's not my vision dude... it's socialism. I'm against socialism, not for it.
I presume you enjoy driving on roads that destroy your tires and that you are your own crime and fire fighter.
1. The inclination, especially in politics, to maintain the existing or traditional order.
. Eventually almost every struggle will be solved in a Progressive manner. That's just the way it's always worked.
. Eventually almost every struggle will be solved in a Progressive manner. That's just the way it's always worked.
its true that all of human history worked that way until our genius Founders came along with the realization that govt change had been the source of evil in human history.
