What To Do With the Jewish People?

[Failzero]

To protect your family.

“ The Jew hides behind the Tree , the Rock tells you of the Jew , you use the Rock to kill the Jew “ : The Koran

 

[Kruska]

Source? You have come up with this Ben Gurion lie and no proof. Time to drop it.

The Israelite's were "commanded" to entirely eliminate the tribes that inhabited the Land of Canaan in their conquest.

It is cited in the Jerusalem Talmud, that Joshua sent three letters warning these people and offering a truce if they would keep the Noahide Laws and pay a tax to the Israelite's—or leave the land. Those who did not accept were to be entirely wiped out. The Israelite's were also "commanded" to entirely eliminate the Amalekites and the Midianites.

It is the Chamishah Chumshei Torah (the "instruction" book in regards to "Israel"), that clearly advocates, "commands" aka Mitzvah, to conduct ETHNIC CLEANSING and if necessary GENOCIDE, - and this is where Nazis and radical Zionists become the same bunch, aka People like Netanyahu and his followers/supporters.

You mean that it is not true that the Palestinians settled in Canaan 10,000 years ago? Or during Abraham's time?

The Israelite's and today's Palestinians originate from the same Semitic group - some tribes adopted monotheism (Jews) at around 1150 B.C. - the others didn't.

NOW, it is during the Babylonian exile? And what proof do you have?

The term Hebrew - has it's origin in the Babylonian Exile - and the term Hebrew can't be found in any historic document before that time.

Being from Arabia does not make them Arabs, anymore than coming from Europe makes everyone English.

Wrong assumption;
being from England makes one a European - it also makes one an Anglo-Saxon - hence a member of the Germanic group.

The worse kind of myths are the kinds designed to deny a people their rightful history.

Absolutely correct - and the biggest religious myth is documented in a self-written book by Israelite's and later by Hebrews
Claiming - without any proof - that God commanded them and promised them whatever.

See what Myths can do? Especially to a people whose homeland was taken away from them?

Exactly - a Jewish invented myth being used to drive out Goym's who had lived for thousands of years in a territory, already being called Philistine by the Greeks, around 200 years before those Israelite's tried to take control over several cities. And who's original population in vast majority converted to Islam - 1400 years ago.

It is also of significant interest to note that in 1917 less then 20,000 Jews lived in British Palestine alongside 600,000 Muslims and others.
Whilst approx. 600,000 Jews lived in the Muslim neighborhood. (most in Egypt). So how come the Zionist's AFTER having their request declined by the Ottoman Sultan in 1905 - to establish a Jewish State in SINAI, offering £ 20 million (in today's value US$ 4 billion) alongside with further ideas to establish a Jewish homeland in Australia, Madagascar, Dutch Guiana, etc. - then came up with that Jewish homeland now being in Palestine?

In order for the Zionists to gain "global support" in the time 1860 - 1915 or rather European support towards their intention of an own Jewish State - radical Zionists (not all Zionists) cited some myth book and a Jewish Kingdom that never managed to exist permanently throughout the period 1150 BC to 100 A.D. But that was permanently destroyed and conquered by the surrounding Empires - right up to the total destruction by the Romans - as being OUR HOMELAND.

Thus gaining the support by all major powers - e.g. Britain, Imperial-Germany, France, Austria-Hungary and Imperial-Russia (who strongly favored the idea of getting rid of their Jews) - Imperial-Germany retracted it's support in 1915 in regards to Ottoman controlled territory due to the alliance with the Ottomans. The only remaining power that clearly objected towards a Jewish homeland within their territory were the Ottomans who controlled the entire Middle-East.

The Brits needed the Arab (Bedouin) support to drive out the Ottomans - therefore they had already "promised" the Bedouin their respective share of a former Ottoman territory in 1915. !! - never even mentioning a Jewish homeland in that vicinity. After the Arabs (foremost the Bedouins) had done most of the fighting in regards to the Levant - and Arabia - the Brits reasserted themselves as the new masters and thus bringing in the Balfour Deceleration of 1917. Thus double-crossing the Arabs, especially the Hashemite Bedouins.

Simply because of Jewish political/financial influence existing in Britain - with the latter now being the one with the say and gaining the future Mandate power over Palestine-which included Jordan. Thus the radical Zionists assuring their intended establishment of a Jewish State, hence no more in Sinai, or elsewhere but now definitely in Palestine.

And since 1920 the radical Zionist made use of terrorist means (Haganah - June 15th 1920) to intimidate, murder and drive off the Arab-Palestinians from their ancestral lands till today. Haganah and the other Zionist terrorist organizations were disbanded in 1949 and became the core of the IDF. None of those Zionist terrorists and their leaders ever faced a court for their crimes - but their leaders even became future Israeli Prime-ministers.

Now upon October 7th - Israel is lamenting about Hamas terrorist actions - demanding their punishment - extermination.
Absolutely okay with me - any terrorist and terrorist action needs to be punished (within international law) - how about the former and present terrorist acts and the violent suppression of Palestinians since 1948, committed by Israel?

The day's were radical Zionists can bath in and exploit the "Global Holocaust guilt & pity syndrome" are over. The sooner they realize this - the better for Israels survival and hence the peaceful coexistence of all parties involved. How they each deal with their individual radicals/terrorists is another topic.

 

[xyz]

“ The Jew hides behind the Tree , the Rock tells you of the Jew , you use the Rock to kill the Jew “ : The Koran

"The asshole makes up bullshit, his face is all deep in it."

 

[Kruska]

“ The Jew hides behind the Tree , the Rock tells you of the Jew , you use the Rock to kill the Jew “ : The Koran

Source?

 

[Failzero]

The Koran

 

[xyz]

The Koran

from Uranus.

 

[surada]

Using Religion to Justify Killing ( It’s in the Koran)

Muslims are only allowed defensive war. They aren't allowed to kill women or children or livestock. They cannot destroy water sources, crops or trees.. and they are obliged to negotiate if the enemy signals a truce.

 

[Failzero]

Muslims are only allowed defensive war. They aren't allowed to kill women or children or livestock. They cannot destroy water sources, crops or trees.. and they are obliged to negotiate if the enemy signals a truce.

Hamas did not get the Message

 

[surada]

The Koran

What verse?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The facts are that the Israelis are two steps above and the Arabs several cuts down.

 

[Kruska]

“ The Jew hides behind the Tree , the Rock tells you of the Jew , you use the Rock to kill the Jew “ : The Koran

Nonsense,

Hadith by Abdullah b. 'Umar reported that Allaah's Messenger (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam) said: The Jews will fight against you and you will gain victory over them until the stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; kill him.

It describes a war/combat between faithful Muslims and Jews after the time of prophet and before the last hour. Why the war will happen is not mentioned. Who will initiate the war is also unclear, but the first hadith seems to indicate that Jews will initiate it.

Since there was no event [after the prophet till present] that resembles the hadith, it is generally considered that the event hasn't happened and it will happen in future. When it will happen is unknown but it is part of Sunni belief that it will happen.

Shia Muslims reject the narrations of both of the narrators from whom this hadith is transmitted, thereby they reject all of the hadiths cited above. This hadith has no effect in Sunni Islamic jurisprudence. It is about a future event not a law.

It's a logical followup by Islam due to the existing, Chamishah Chumshei Torah calling for ethnic cleansing towards non-Jews - that predates Islam by 1000-1500 years.

 

[Kruska]

Hamas did not get the Message

Therefore they are in breach with Islam - the radical Zionist are not - since their Talmud explicitly orders them to kill others.
Therefore Judaism is a violent and aggressive religion, preaching murder - Got it now?

 

[surada]

Nonsense,

Hadith by Abdullah b. 'Umar reported that Allaah's Messenger (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam) said: The Jews will fight against you and you will gain victory over them until the stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; kill him.

It describes a war/combat between faithful Muslims and Jews after the time of prophet and before the last hour. Why the war will happen is not mentioned. Who will initiate the war is also unclear, but the first hadith seems to indicate that Jews will initiate it.

Since there was no event [after the prophet till present] that resembles the hadith, it is generally considered that the event hasn't happened and it will happen in future. When it will happen is unknown but it is part of Sunni belief that it will happen.

Shia Muslims reject the narrations of both of the narrators from whom this hadith is transmitted, thereby they reject all of the hadiths cited above. This hadith has no effect in Sunni Islamic jurisprudence. It is about a future event not a law.

It's a logical followup by Islam due to the existing, Chamishah Chumshei Torah calling for ethnic cleansing towards non-Jews - that predates Islam by 1000-1500 years.

That's a hadith about the Gharqad tree and the end times, isn't it? They have taken it completely out of context.

Ignorance will kill us all.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Kruska does not understand the Talmud.

 

[Kruska]

That's a hadith about the Gharqad tree and the end times, isn't it? They have taken it completely out of context.

Ignorance will kill us all.

Yep - to my limited understanding of Islam (due to growing up in Malaysia-Singapore) it's in reference to only the Gharkad tree, (Jewish). King Solomon, son of King David, wrote a Book of Proverbs (in Hebrew, Mishlei). The Gharqad tree is mentioned there, in Chapter 22, Verse 5.


From another source:
On said day, there will be a schism between right and wrong.. Jesus -aka Prophet will have descended and at the same time the 'Antichrist'. There will be righteous Jews who will recognize the tribulation of the day but the majority unfortunately and from their own description of the 'moschiach' will be followers of this masikh dajjal 'anti-christ' .. and that will be the time for said battle and said trees, said rocks, etc. It isn't something to judge by today's standards!

 

[Sixties Fan]

But for now, remember this: to be a Jew is to refuse to kneel and refuse to bow. The stakes of standing upright have never been clearer than they are today, in this post–October 7 world. It’s good to have these people as your enemies, because the world will always have people who oppose what’s right and what’s good, and it is our destiny to fight them. Do it with pride.

(full article online)

Batya Ungar-Sargon: The Antisemites Scream. And I Stiffen My Spine.

The worst thing that could come out of this moment would be for Jews to embrace the victimhood narrative.

www.thefp.com

 

[Sixties Fan]

Muslims are only allowed defensive war. They aren't allowed to kill women or children or livestock. They cannot destroy water sources, crops or trees.. and they are obliged to negotiate if the enemy signals a truce.

Explain to everyone how Islam spread all over West of Arabia and North Africa, South Spain and Vienna, etc, if Muslims are only allowed defensive wars?

List Of Muslim conquests Battles

List of every major Muslim conquests battle, including photos, images, or maps of the most famous Muslim conquests battles when available. While it is not a comprehensive list of all skirmishes, conflicts, or battles that took place in the Muslim conquests, we have tried to include as many...

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[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Islamic warfare, based on the literature of its wars, seems to very offensive in nature.

 

[Kruska]

Explain to everyone how Islam spread all over West of Arabia and North Africa, South Spain and Vienna, etc, if Muslims are only allowed defensive wars?

List Of Muslim conquests Battles

List of every major Muslim conquests battle, including photos, images, or maps of the most famous Muslim conquests battles when available. While it is not a comprehensive list of all skirmishes, conflicts, or battles that took place in the Muslim conquests, we have tried to include as many...

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I can't remember Allah commanding Muslim armies to conquer other places.
It was individual warlords, Sultans, Caliph's that commanded these armies and not a religion.
I also can't remember God commanding Christian armies to conquer other places - but just as the Muslims they liked to say "God wills it"

 

[Kruska]

But for now, remember this: to be a Jew is to refuse to kneel and refuse to bow.

I wouldn't know about that - but I do know that Jews - especially radical Zionist cite the Torah, whereby their God is commanding them to kill all those not willing to subject themselves towards Judaism aka Noahide Laws.

And I am not aware that any other "Holy Book" aka Religion or religious instruction book, states or commands such an action.

It is cited in the Jerusalem Talmud, that Joshua sent three letters warning these people and offering a truce if they would keep the Noahide Laws and pay a tax to the Israelite's—or leave the land. Those who did not accept were to be entirely wiped out. The Israelite's were also "commanded" to entirely eliminate the Amalekites and the Midianites.

It is the Chamishah Chumshei Torah (the "instruction" book in regards to "Israel"), that clearly advocates, "commands" aka Mitzvah, to conduct ETHNIC CLEANSING and if necessary GENOCIDE