What we can learn from Denmark

[koshergrl]

Ah he republitards are in full on troll mode....they can't stop progress though.

You think unemployment and depression are progress?

Of course you do. You're a progressive. Starvation and death are the ultimate goal!

 

[jasonnfree]

Ah he republitards are in full on troll mode....they can't stop progress though.

Get them on a roll and they're hard to stop. Even got the mods chiming in. Why don't you move the family to one of the republican paradises here in USA. I hear Kansas is doing very well since Brownback followed the republican prescription with tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts.

 

[Preacher]

Ah he republitards are in full on troll mode....they can't stop progress though.

Get them on a roll and they're hard to stop. Even got the mods chiming in. Why don't you move the family to one of the republican paradises here in USA. I hear Kansas is doing very well since Brownback followed the republican prescription with tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts.

Moving to Va soon....nice mixture of government close to both families,close to ocean,close to DC and historical things to do...looking forward to it.

 

[alan1]

plus 4 kids. Grandma ain't leaving lol...she has lived in same town for 60 + plus years.

Adding the 4 kids takes the total to $7000, still not a lot of money.
I get it.
No matter what I say, you have an excuse why you can't do it instead of plan to accomplish what you think is wonderful.

 

[Preacher]

plus 4 kids. Grandma ain't leaving lol...she has lived in same town for 60 + plus years.

Adding the 4 kids takes the total to $7000, still not a lot of money.
I get it.
No matter what I say, you have an excuse why you can't do it instead of plan to accomplish what you think is wonderful.

I had already said I plan to stay in American and make that a reality here.

 

[alan1]

plus 4 kids. Grandma ain't leaving lol...she has lived in same town for 60 + plus years.

Adding the 4 kids takes the total to $7000, still not a lot of money.
I get it.
No matter what I say, you have an excuse why you can't do it instead of plan to accomplish what you think is wonderful.

I had already said I plan to stay in American and make that a reality here.

Good luck on changing the USA.
Denmark has a population of about 5.5 million people, that's simply a major city population in the US. Their entire country's population is less than 2% of the US population. Just for comparison, the US has more children under 5 years of age die every year than the entire population of Denmark.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Danes pay very high taxes,

There in lies the problem...Danes surrender their freedom to choose prosperity and to live as they see fit in exchange for security.
They are not citizens. They are subjects of government.
No thanks.
BTW, everything in Denmark is expensive. Danes claim to be happy. The problem is they just don't know any better because they have never been exposed to true freedom.

 

[Preacher]

Danes pay very high taxes,

There in lies the problem...Danes surrender their freedom to choose prosperity and to live as they see fit in exchange for security.
They are not citizens. They are subjects of government.
No thanks.
BTW, everything in Denmark is expensive. Danes claim to be happy. The problem is they just don't know any better because they have never been exposed to true freedom.

You find freedom in money like most republicans that are selfish and only think of themselves. Danes pay higher taxes for a wonderful safety net that EVERYONE eventually will need for one reason or another.

 

[thereisnospoon]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rep-bernie-sanders/what-can-we-learn-from-de_b_3339736

In Denmark, social policy in areas like health care, child care, education and protecting the unemployed are part of a "solidarity system" that makes sure that almost no one falls into economic despair. Danes pay very high taxes, but in return enjoy a quality of life that many Americans would find hard to believe. As the ambassador mentioned, while it is difficult to become very rich in Denmark no one is allowed to be poor. The minimum wage in Denmark is about twice that of the United States and people who are totally out of the labor market or unable to care for themselves have a basic income guarantee of about $100 per day.

Health care in Denmark is universal, free of charge and high quality. Everybody is covered as a right of citizenship. The Danish health care system is popular, with patient satisfaction much higher than in our country. In Denmark, every citizen can choose a doctor in their area. Prescription drugs are inexpensive and free for those under 18 years of age. Interestingly, despite their universal coverage, the Danish health care system is far more cost-effective than ours. They spend about 11 percent of their GDP on health care. We spend almost 18 percent.

When it comes to raising families, Danes understand that the first few years of a person's life are the most important in terms of intellectual and emotional development. In order to give strong support to expecting parents, mothers get four weeks of paid leave before giving birth. They get another 14 weeks afterward. Expecting fathers get two paid weeks off, and both parents have the right to 32 more weeks of leave during the first nine years of a child's life. The state covers three-quarters of the cost of child care, more for lower-income workers.

At a time when college education in the United States is increasingly unaffordable and the average college graduate leaves school more than $25,000 in debt, virtually all higher education in Denmark is free. That includes not just college but graduate schools as well, including medical school.

In a volatile global economy, the Danish government recognizes that it must invest heavily in training programs so workers can learn new skills to meet changing workforce demands. It also understands that when people lose their jobs they must have adequate income while they search for new jobs. If a worker loses his or her job in Denmark, unemployment insurance covers up to 90 percent of earnings for as long as two years. Here benefits can be cut off after as few as 26 weeks.

In Denmark, adequate leisure and family time are considered an important part of having a good life. Every worker in Denmark is entitled to five weeks of paid vacation plus 11 paid holidays. The United States is the only major country that does not guarantee its workers paid vacation time. The result is that fewer than half of lower-paid hourly wage workers in our country receive any paid vacation days.

THAT is a utopia! God damn I swear if I could I would move there...but as much as it pains me to live in the corporate run nation that is the US I hope to change it more towards Denmark!

Our system is not perfect. But it is an ingredient of what makes the USA the greatest country on the planet. Our system is the main reason why immigration continues to maintain a steady pace.
Now, some common sense perspective.
The comparison you are making is illogical...
Denmark is 5 million people. We have 10 cities and some 40 Metropolitan Statistical Areas with more people than Denmark...
Denmark is a nation with a largely homogeneous society. Nearly every Dane is a western European Caucasian. Many Danes, save for vacations have never been out side the borders of the tiny country....
Members of these societies with socialist systems are born into the system and have never been exposed to anything different. Danes by the type of system under which they live do not strive toward anything. They have no interest in achievement or success. Most Danes will never own a home. Most Danes will never own a car. Most Danes will never experience financial independence. Most Danes spend their entire lives dependent on government for their every need.
What woks in Denmark works for the Danish people. All 5 million of them...Good for them.
The idea that same thing could work for a nation of 315 million people with the entitlement mentality that has infested certain ideological positions is a ludicrous one.

 

[thereisnospoon]

In the U.S. Senate today, my right-wing colleagues talk a lot about "freedom" and limiting the size of government. Here's what they really mean.

They want ordinary Americans to have the freedom NOT to have health care in a country where 45,000 of our people who die each year because they don't get to a doctor when they should. They want young people in our country to have the freedom NOT to go to college, and join the 400,000 young Americans unable to afford a higher education and the millions struggling with huge college debts. They want children and seniors in our country to have the freedom NOT to have enough food to eat, and join the many millions who are already hungry. And on and on it goes!

BINGO!

Now here is an assumption.....
When you look in the mirror you see failure. So you lash out at others seeking to place blame.
You use this anger to contrive these irrational and outrageous accusations. Then you convince yourself those accusations are not accusations, but facts.
You cannot create your own reality then expect others to live it.

Now you will respond with "prove me wrong"......Nonsense. We do not prove negatives here.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Scandinavia s Weakest Nation Finds Welfare Habits Too Costly - Bloomberg Business

From a pro capitalist rag based on comments by the pro capitalist government in power at the time AND when a housing boom was busting AND when immigrants from Africa and ME were being allowed in. Nice try but fail.

If there are items not factual in the article, by all means please feel free to point them out.

 

[thereisnospoon]

That's what happens when you open doors to non Danish people and allow them to swamp the welfare system only intended for Danish people where MOST work for a living...seems like between that and a recession and housing slump more people are on the welfare system. Still BEST system the world around.Of course republipukes hate it. It doesn't benefit the rich.

Newsflash....The welfare system doesn't benfit anyone except the parasites.....Hey...Head to JFK, there is a SAS flight departing non stop to Copenhagen....Be on it.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Scandinavia s Weakest Nation Finds Welfare Habits Too Costly - Bloomberg Business

From a pro capitalist rag based on comments by the pro capitalist government in power at the time AND when a housing boom was busting AND when immigrants from Africa and ME were being allowed in. Nice try but fail.

Scandinavia s Weakest Nation Finds Welfare Habits Too Costly - Bloomberg Business

Just shot the hell out of that opening post....

Only in the narrow mind of a republitard.

USA has a high degree of wealth inequality compared to most other first world nations. Link below. America's not at the bottom. Mexico and Turkey are worse. Conservatives on this board have been convinced that social programs ruin a country but the facts argue against this.

10 Countries With The Worst Income Inequality - TheRichest

There is no such thing wealth inequality....The term presupposes the idea that income is supposed to be equal.
Since you opened the door.
Every third world nation on the planet, and most socialist countries have wider income disparities than the US.....If one is willing to discount income via social safety nets.
This idea of wealth inequality is nothing more than a class envy liberal talking point.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Scandinavia s Weakest Nation Finds Welfare Habits Too Costly - Bloomberg Business

From a pro capitalist rag based on comments by the pro capitalist government in power at the time AND when a housing boom was busting AND when immigrants from Africa and ME were being allowed in. Nice try but fail.

Scandinavia s Weakest Nation Finds Welfare Habits Too Costly - Bloomberg Business

Just shot the hell out of that opening post....

Only in the narrow mind of a republitard.

USA has a high degree of wealth inequality compared to most other first world nations. Link below. America's not at the bottom. Mexico and Turkey are worse. Conservatives on this board have been convinced that social programs ruin a country but the facts argue against this.

10 Countries With The Worst Income Inequality - TheRichest

We are a more multi-cultural pluralistic society than Denmark

Does that count for something.

I hear it is supposed to be a real good thing.

Meaning you don't care for multi cultural pluralistic?

Diverse? Yes. Multi-cultural...NO....

 

[thereisnospoon]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rep-bernie-sanders/what-can-we-learn-from-de_b_3339736

In Denmark, social policy in areas like health care, child care, education and protecting the unemployed are part of a "solidarity system" that makes sure that almost no one falls into economic despair. Danes pay very high taxes, but in return enjoy a quality of life that many Americans would find hard to believe. As the ambassador mentioned, while it is difficult to become very rich in Denmark no one is allowed to be poor. The minimum wage in Denmark is about twice that of the United States and people who are totally out of the labor market or unable to care for themselves have a basic income guarantee of about $100 per day.

Health care in Denmark is universal, free of charge and high quality. Everybody is covered as a right of citizenship. The Danish health care system is popular, with patient satisfaction much higher than in our country. In Denmark, every citizen can choose a doctor in their area. Prescription drugs are inexpensive and free for those under 18 years of age. Interestingly, despite their universal coverage, the Danish health care system is far more cost-effective than ours. They spend about 11 percent of their GDP on health care. We spend almost 18 percent.

When it comes to raising families, Danes understand that the first few years of a person's life are the most important in terms of intellectual and emotional development. In order to give strong support to expecting parents, mothers get four weeks of paid leave before giving birth. They get another 14 weeks afterward. Expecting fathers get two paid weeks off, and both parents have the right to 32 more weeks of leave during the first nine years of a child's life. The state covers three-quarters of the cost of child care, more for lower-income workers.

At a time when college education in the United States is increasingly unaffordable and the average college graduate leaves school more than $25,000 in debt, virtually all higher education in Denmark is free. That includes not just college but graduate schools as well, including medical school.

In a volatile global economy, the Danish government recognizes that it must invest heavily in training programs so workers can learn new skills to meet changing workforce demands. It also understands that when people lose their jobs they must have adequate income while they search for new jobs. If a worker loses his or her job in Denmark, unemployment insurance covers up to 90 percent of earnings for as long as two years. Here benefits can be cut off after as few as 26 weeks.

In Denmark, adequate leisure and family time are considered an important part of having a good life. Every worker in Denmark is entitled to five weeks of paid vacation plus 11 paid holidays. The United States is the only major country that does not guarantee its workers paid vacation time. The result is that fewer than half of lower-paid hourly wage workers in our country receive any paid vacation days.

THAT is a utopia! God damn I swear if I could I would move there...but as much as it pains me to live in the corporate run nation that is the US I hope to change it more towards Denmark!

Denmark is a very small country with a shitload of oil revenue. They can afford to do that.

But, do any of them have rhythm?

Can Danes dunk?

. You just don't care for the Blacks in America. Got it.

The race card? Spare us.

 

[thereisnospoon]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rep-bernie-sanders/what-can-we-learn-from-de_b_3339736

In Denmark, social policy in areas like health care, child care, education and protecting the unemployed are part of a "solidarity system" that makes sure that almost no one falls into economic despair. Danes pay very high taxes, but in return enjoy a quality of life that many Americans would find hard to believe. As the ambassador mentioned, while it is difficult to become very rich in Denmark no one is allowed to be poor. The minimum wage in Denmark is about twice that of the United States and people who are totally out of the labor market or unable to care for themselves have a basic income guarantee of about $100 per day.

Health care in Denmark is universal, free of charge and high quality. Everybody is covered as a right of citizenship. The Danish health care system is popular, with patient satisfaction much higher than in our country. In Denmark, every citizen can choose a doctor in their area. Prescription drugs are inexpensive and free for those under 18 years of age. Interestingly, despite their universal coverage, the Danish health care system is far more cost-effective than ours. They spend about 11 percent of their GDP on health care. We spend almost 18 percent.

When it comes to raising families, Danes understand that the first few years of a person's life are the most important in terms of intellectual and emotional development. In order to give strong support to expecting parents, mothers get four weeks of paid leave before giving birth. They get another 14 weeks afterward. Expecting fathers get two paid weeks off, and both parents have the right to 32 more weeks of leave during the first nine years of a child's life. The state covers three-quarters of the cost of child care, more for lower-income workers.

At a time when college education in the United States is increasingly unaffordable and the average college graduate leaves school more than $25,000 in debt, virtually all higher education in Denmark is free. That includes not just college but graduate schools as well, including medical school.

In a volatile global economy, the Danish government recognizes that it must invest heavily in training programs so workers can learn new skills to meet changing workforce demands. It also understands that when people lose their jobs they must have adequate income while they search for new jobs. If a worker loses his or her job in Denmark, unemployment insurance covers up to 90 percent of earnings for as long as two years. Here benefits can be cut off after as few as 26 weeks.

In Denmark, adequate leisure and family time are considered an important part of having a good life. Every worker in Denmark is entitled to five weeks of paid vacation plus 11 paid holidays. The United States is the only major country that does not guarantee its workers paid vacation time. The result is that fewer than half of lower-paid hourly wage workers in our country receive any paid vacation days.

THAT is a utopia! God damn I swear if I could I would move there...but as much as it pains me to live in the corporate run nation that is the US I hope to change it more towards Denmark!

Denmark is a very small country with a shitload of oil revenue. They can afford to do that.

But, do any of them have rhythm?

Can Danes dunk?

. You just don't care for the Blacks in America. Got it.

I don't either a big part of the reason Denmark works is because it IS a homogeneous society.

And so you waste precious time making this silly point why?

 

[thereisnospoon]

" Although Denmark’s welfare model seems on paper to provide a sufficient safety net for its citizens, in practice, conditions today threaten to reveal the celebrated welfare state as having effectively been a mere illusion."

" Poverty in Denmark has increased, and threatens to continue rising in the coming years if current trends remain unchanged. As Karin Larsen, department leader at Kofoed’s School, told us in reference to the failures of the current welfare system: “you’d have to be blind and deaf in Denmark if you don’t know about it.” Indeed, there seems to be a common consensus that homelessness and poverty are growing problems, relative to other years under the Danish welfare state. "

Ruh roh, problems in paradise.

And then there's the embarrassing tendency they have to kill off their babies and old people...without getting permission.

The Danish Illusion The Gap Between Principle and Practice in the Danish Welfare System by Alexandra Lu Lisa Sig Olesen Humanity in Action

Already debunked that garbage.

With what?

 

[BlackSand]

Money. Passport. Wife would move once her grandma passes but not until then.

What is your score ... Or do you plan on qualifying for the Pay Limit Scheme?

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[Roadrunner]

Danes pay very high taxes,

There in lies the problem...Danes surrender their freedom to choose prosperity and to live as they see fit in exchange for security.
They are not citizens. They are subjects of government.
No thanks.
BTW, everything in Denmark is expensive. Danes claim to be happy. The problem is they just don't know any better because they have never been exposed to true freedom.

Danes are not under a Nazi boot due to countries like the GOUSA and Russia, not because of anything they did.

Now, Putin has them targeted with nukes, if they get out of line.

Some freedom.

 

[Wyatt earp]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rep-bernie-sanders/what-can-we-learn-from-de_b_3339736

In Denmark, social policy in areas like health care, child care, education and protecting the unemployed are part of a "solidarity system" that makes sure that almost no one falls into economic despair. Danes pay very high taxes, but in return enjoy a quality of life that many Americans would find hard to believe. As the ambassador mentioned, while it is difficult to become very rich in Denmark no one is allowed to be poor. The minimum wage in Denmark is about twice that of the United States and people who are totally out of the labor market or unable to care for themselves have a basic income guarantee of about $100 per day.

Health care in Denmark is universal, free of charge and high quality. Everybody is covered as a right of citizenship. The Danish health care system is popular, with patient satisfaction much higher than in our country. In Denmark, every citizen can choose a doctor in their area. Prescription drugs are inexpensive and free for those under 18 years of age. Interestingly, despite their universal coverage, the Danish health care system is far more cost-effective than ours. They spend about 11 percent of their GDP on health care. We spend almost 18 percent.

When it comes to raising families, Danes understand that the first few years of a person's life are the most important in terms of intellectual and emotional development. In order to give strong support to expecting parents, mothers get four weeks of paid leave before giving birth. They get another 14 weeks afterward. Expecting fathers get two paid weeks off, and both parents have the right to 32 more weeks of leave during the first nine years of a child's life. The state covers three-quarters of the cost of child care, more for lower-income workers.

At a time when college education in the United States is increasingly unaffordable and the average college graduate leaves school more than $25,000 in debt, virtually all higher education in Denmark is free. That includes not just college but graduate schools as well, including medical school.

In a volatile global economy, the Danish government recognizes that it must invest heavily in training programs so workers can learn new skills to meet changing workforce demands. It also understands that when people lose their jobs they must have adequate income while they search for new jobs. If a worker loses his or her job in Denmark, unemployment insurance covers up to 90 percent of earnings for as long as two years. Here benefits can be cut off after as few as 26 weeks.

In Denmark, adequate leisure and family time are considered an important part of having a good life. Every worker in Denmark is entitled to five weeks of paid vacation plus 11 paid holidays. The United States is the only major country that does not guarantee its workers paid vacation time. The result is that fewer than half of lower-paid hourly wage workers in our country receive any paid vacation days.

THAT is a utopia! God damn I swear if I could I would move there...but as much as it pains me to live in the corporate run nation that is the US I hope to change it more towards Denmark!