What Will Happen to Hillary Over the Mishandling of Classified Material?

[flacaltenn]

The DOJ will never take down one of their own...............It's not gonna happen..........hell they'd probably be forced to prosecute themselves if they did that.......

No.......Hillary will not................Even though she is guilty as hell.

Just permanently REVOKE her clearances. Never issue one again.. Case closed. We all live happily ever after.

Except if she's president, she has clearance. So the case isn't closed.

Nope.. She needs to be RE-CLEARED into the appropriate programs.,. The ones that she violated the trust of.
That should never happen.. No need to get legal on her ass. Just make certain the rules and procedures are respected and mean something.

Go ahead -- run for Prez. That rejection letter for security clearances will clean the arrogance and smirk off her face.

 

[Vigilante]

 

[eagle1462010]

In any of us had done a fraction of these......we'd be behind bars........but peasants don't matter to the elitist.

 

[flacaltenn]

Wouldn't the employees who EMAILED her be in trouble ?

If a CIA agent sends classified information to my Hotmail account why would I be the one to get in trouble?

Good Question Tiny Tim. The only tidbit I could add is that SHE sent underlings into the secure area.....they must badge in/out and have clearance themselves. SHE instructed them to cut/paste w/o header and send to "less secure" email to arrive at her server. I know sounds a bit weird but I read it on the internet so it has to be TRUE.

The answer is SHE is in trouble if she ever RECEIVED info over that system and never took steps to prevent future occurences. She KNEW it would happen.. Never bothered her..

 

[Timmy]

Wouldn't the employees who EMAILED her be in trouble ?

If a CIA agent sends classified information to my Hotmail account why would I be the one to get in trouble?

Good Question Tiny Tim. The only tidbit I could add is that SHE sent underlings into the secure area.....they must badge in/out and have clearance themselves. SHE instructed them to cut/paste w/o header and send to "less secure" email to arrive at her server. I know sounds a bit weird but I read it on the internet so it has to be TRUE.

Shit . My job would kick my ass if I sent secure email to an outside account . In fact the firewalls would trigger a red flag .

You know when you are sending stuff outside company .

 

[leftwinger]

never took steps to prevent future occurences.

good one. Have not heard that yet. Of course. SHE was in charge. If violations were going on her watch............SHE has to bring a halt to it.

 

[Timmy]

Wouldn't the employees who EMAILED her be in trouble ?

If a CIA agent sends classified information to my Hotmail account why would I be the one to get in trouble?

Good Question Tiny Tim. The only tidbit I could add is that SHE sent underlings into the secure area.....they must badge in/out and have clearance themselves. SHE instructed them to cut/paste w/o header and send to "less secure" email to arrive at her server. I know sounds a bit weird but I read it on the internet so it has to be TRUE.

The answer is SHE is in trouble if she ever RECEIVED info over that system and never took steps to prevent future occurences. She KNEW it would happen.. Never bothered her..

How so? Obviously all the players knew the set up and didn't care .

 

[Skylar]

The DOJ will never take down one of their own...............It's not gonna happen..........hell they'd probably be forced to prosecute themselves if they did that.......

No.......Hillary will not................Even though she is guilty as hell.

Just permanently REVOKE her clearances. Never issue one again.. Case closed. We all live happily ever after.

Except if she's president, she has clearance. So the case isn't closed.

Nope.. She needs to be RE-CLEARED into the appropriate programs.,. The ones that she violated the trust of.
That should never happen.. No need to get legal on her ass. Just make certain the rules and procedures are respected and mean something.

Says who? The Congressional Research Service's specialist in Intelligence and national security says otherwise.

"By virtue of his constitutional role as commander-and-in-chief and head of the executive branch, the President has access to all national intelligence collected, analyzed and produced by the Intelligence Community."

Congressional Research Service
December 14th, 2005

https://web.archive.org/web/20110114013512/http://feinstein.senate.gov/crs-intel.pdf

There's no mention of being 'cleared'. To say nothing of being 'recleared'. Remember, the Intelligence Community is part of the Executive Branch. The President can just order them to give her any information that she wants.

"The President is able to control dissemination of intelligence information to Congress because the Intelligence Community is part of the executive branch. It was created by law and executive order principally to serve that branch of government in the execution of its responsibilities. Thus, as the head of the executive branch, the President generally is acknowledged to be “the owner” of national intelligence."

Congressional Research Service
December 14th, 2005

Thus, as president, she has clearance as she is the 'owner' of national intelligence. Your 'cased closed' hypothetical doesn't take this enormous detail into account. Rendering your hypothetical functionally meaningless.

 

[leftwinger]

Shit . My job would kick my ass if I sent secure email to an outside account . In fact the firewalls would trigger a red flag .

You know when you are sending stuff outside company .

It does seem a bit odd that underlings could get SECRET cut out sections pasted onto a regular email to [email protected]? that ain't very secure? So they can sit there reading US Troop movements and have Yahoo mail open on same terminal? Porn too?

Can they print it out in the room and scan it later? WTH?

 

[flacaltenn]

Wouldn't the employees who EMAILED her be in trouble ?

If a CIA agent sends classified information to my Hotmail account why would I be the one to get in trouble?

Good Question Tiny Tim. The only tidbit I could add is that SHE sent underlings into the secure area.....they must badge in/out and have clearance themselves. SHE instructed them to cut/paste w/o header and send to "less secure" email to arrive at her server. I know sounds a bit weird but I read it on the internet so it has to be TRUE.

The answer is SHE is in trouble if she ever RECEIVED info over that system and never took steps to prevent future occurences. She KNEW it would happen.. Never bothered her..

How so? Obviously all the players knew the set up and didn't care .

Then they are ALL GUILTY and should never have a Security Clearance again. Secured communications ONLY occur over APPROVED secure channels. PERIOD... AND the identities and clearances of folks on BOTH sides of the communications need to be approved in advance...

They were winging it. Didn't GaF about anything but HER convenience and protection from visibility..

 

[BluesLegend]

At most Hillary will get her wrist slapped, the end bank on it.

 

[Skylar]

Wouldn't the employees who EMAILED her be in trouble ?

If a CIA agent sends classified information to my Hotmail account why would I be the one to get in trouble?

Good Question Tiny Tim. The only tidbit I could add is that SHE sent underlings into the secure area.....they must badge in/out and have clearance themselves. SHE instructed them to cut/paste w/o header and send to "less secure" email to arrive at her server. I know sounds a bit weird but I read it on the internet so it has to be TRUE.

The answer is SHE is in trouble if she ever RECEIVED info over that system and never took steps to prevent future occurences. She KNEW it would happen.. Never bothered her..

How so? Obviously all the players knew the set up and didn't care .

Then they are ALL GUILTY and should never have a Security Clearance again. Secured communications ONLY occur over APPROVED secure channels. PERIOD... AND the identities and clearances of folks on BOTH sides of the communications need to be approved in advance...

They were winging it. Didn't GaF about anything but HER convenience and protection from visibility..

As President she would be 'owner' of national intelligence. She's have access to any intel she wants.

 

[flacaltenn]

Shit . My job would kick my ass if I sent secure email to an outside account . In fact the firewalls would trigger a red flag .

You know when you are sending stuff outside company .

It does seem a bit odd that underlings could get SECRET cut out sections pasted onto a regular email to [email protected]? that ain't very secure? So they can sit there reading US Troop movements and have Yahoo mail open on same terminal? Porn too?

Can they print it out in the room and scan it later? WTH?

That type of info is very fluid. It involves people, locations, methods, planning and numbers. MOST of it is probably NEVER published in an actual stamped document. You are TRAINED to recognize ALL of it. It is YOUR responsibility to keep that information in legitimate channels. NOT somebody else's..

 

[candycorn]

What Will Happen to Hillary Over the Mishandling of Classified Material?

The exact same, identical, corresponding thing which happened to Colin Powell and Condi Rice for the mishandling of classified material.

In Hillary's case though, unlike those you mentioned, Hillary had the identities, locations, information, etc - ABOVE Top Secret Information that put American lives in the field in jeopardy on an incorrectly configured, illegally handled / classified personal computer system AND she is on record (according to her aides) as having ordered the classification headings stripped from documents and sent via unclassified means for her own convenience. THOSE are HUGE differences.

Yeah, I know, I know....I am waiting for the long-winded version of 'UH-UH!"

What were those identities

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"What Will Happen to Hillary Over the Mishandling of Classified Material?"

This fails as a loaded question fallacy.

 

[Never3ndr]

It is pretty amazing that this is one of the first unifying polls I've seen on this site...no matter if you are left or right, no matter your reasoning for why...everybody can agree that Clinton goes scott free.

 

[Never3ndr]

"What Will Happen to Hillary Over the Mishandling of Classified Material?"

This fails as a loaded question fallacy.

I disagree. It doesn't say anything debatable. I don't think anybody would argue that she did mishandle classified material at this point. I'm like 99.9% certain that that has been verified beyond reasonable doubt (you are certainly welcome to educate me however as I haven't really followed the issue in a while).

 

[flacaltenn]

Wouldn't the employees who EMAILED her be in trouble ?

If a CIA agent sends classified information to my Hotmail account why would I be the one to get in trouble?

Good Question Tiny Tim. The only tidbit I could add is that SHE sent underlings into the secure area.....they must badge in/out and have clearance themselves. SHE instructed them to cut/paste w/o header and send to "less secure" email to arrive at her server. I know sounds a bit weird but I read it on the internet so it has to be TRUE.

The answer is SHE is in trouble if she ever RECEIVED info over that system and never took steps to prevent future occurences. She KNEW it would happen.. Never bothered her..

How so? Obviously all the players knew the set up and didn't care .

Then they are ALL GUILTY and should never have a Security Clearance again. Secured communications ONLY occur over APPROVED secure channels. PERIOD... AND the identities and clearances of folks on BOTH sides of the communications need to be approved in advance...

They were winging it. Didn't GaF about anything but HER convenience and protection from visibility..

As President she would be 'owner' of national intelligence. She's have access to any intel she wants.

That's speculation on your part. Since the process has never been tested. The premise is that candidates for the ballot are pretty highly vetted and not PRESUMED to be a threat to national security. In REALITY -- a lot of "personal issues" can be overlooked for ANYONE applying for clearance if they are honest about it and cannot be blackmailed because of what they're hiding.

The issue came up in 2008 with the Obama connection to Bill Ayers and at the time MANY security specialists DIFFERED on whether that would affect his access in office to classified material. But since the issue was public knowledge -- the main concern of some entity blackmailing the prez was not a large concern.

But IN THIS CASE -- we've already established that the candidate CAN NOT BE TRUSTED to maintain the process for handling secure information. Not a HIGH PRIORITY FOR HER.. So this is much different. She has already violated the trust and the law.

So if the FBI wanted to put that in writing and/or the various top security operations in the govt didn't WANT to pass information to her --- I think we'd have an interesting battle. It's the FBI that RECOMMENDS on security clearances. If they indict and the DOJ doesn't prosecute -- they could STILL recommend that she be denied future security clearances. If that were done before the election -- she would be toasted.

 

[flacaltenn]

BTW --- because of this evil behaviour on the part of Mrs Clinton in regards to the protection of national secrets (see my sigline for her clueless hypocrisy) ---- the most critical question for an applicant of "Are you a target for blackmail for things you might be hiding in your personal life " ---------------------- that becomes a primary concern.


Because by running her communications exclusively on an unapproved unsecured system, who the hell knows who has hacked that system when it was available. And any of the redacted info that could be embarrassing to her or the country might be sitting out there SUBJECT TO BLACKMAIL or pressure from foreign entities or individuals like Anonymous, WikiLeaks or the drug cartels.

 

[Yarddog]

What Will Happen to Hillary Over He Mishandling of Classified Material?

She's "goonee to Faaarr to turn back nawww " so maybe theres a spokes person job waiting for her at Life Lock if all else fails.