When republicans complain about single moms getting food stamps, why don’t they consider the well-being of the child?

[bripat9643]

There's going to be a lot more of these kids, now that abortions are getting harder and harder to get. If these women would just tell their husbands "No", they wouldn't have this problem.

They don't have husbands, dingbat. That's why they qualify for welfare.

 

[bripat9643]

Many unwanted children end up in horrible foster homes, and being abused. They end up homeless or in prison:

Homeless Man Was Beaten and Tortured in Foster Care.

I grew up in foster care and was homeless for 7 years.​

Many unwanted children end up homeless because we live in a society that doesn't recognize housing as a human right. These conservative Republicans who are supposedly disciples of Jesus and follow the bible aren't obeying their supposed master and lord. The irony of these conservative religious folks who hate the poor and homeless. They don't obey their god.

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Newborns get adopted.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Right? Maybe he should consider another field? There's work for him. What do you suggest we do with this human being? A bullet to the head, throw him off a cliff, hang him? Abandon him out in the street? There's plenty of work for people like him.

My point behind my story is that not everybody can be educated. They simply don't have the smarts for it and government can't change that. You have to work with what God gave you, and he didn't give to us equally.

Millions of men wish they could play professional football or baseball. Some wish they were more physically attractive to be a lady's man. Some are filthy rich while others are poor. Music came easy for me, but as a teacher, I couldn't teach everybody music that came into my studio. We are all born different and government can't make us equal no matter how much money is involved or how hard they try.

 

[Billy000]

So I don't profit from my job? Almost my entire paycheck goes to pay my living expenses. Is that what you're saying?

They gain materially from welfare. There's no point in discussing this with a moron who doesn't understand that.


Actually people are lining up to adopt children. They wouldn't be impoverished if they weren't raised by some irresponsible welfare slut.

The cost would be far lower for a couple of reason: #1) there would be far fewer teenage girls getting pregnant. #2) most of them, if not all, would be adopted.

Actually what I said is that you wouldn’t profit in that scenario I said and the same logic applies to single moms on food stamps. The benefits they are getting are pennies on the dollar in comparison to rent, food, daycare and clothing taken altogether. Why this basic logic escapes you is beyond my comprehension lol.

See now you’re just making shit up on the spot. You simply saying parents are lining up to adopt kids does not make it true. You’re just choosing to say that statement facts be damned. Like was I supposed to fall for that? You simply contradicting the fact I told you? Nope. Doesn’t work like that lol.

 

[jc456]

Many unwanted children end up in horrible foster homes, and being abused. They end up homeless or in prison:

Homeless Man Was Beaten and Tortured in Foster Care.

I grew up in foster care and was homeless for 7 years.​

Many unwanted children end up homeless because we live in a society that doesn't recognize housing as a human right. These conservative Republicans who are supposedly disciples of Jesus and follow the bible aren't obeying their supposed master and lord. The irony of these conservative religious folks who hate the poor and homeless. They don't obey their god.

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Someone needs to explain the difference

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Actually what I said is that you wouldn’t profit in that scenario I said and the same logic applies to single moms on food stamps. The benefits they are getting are pennies on the dollar in comparison to rent, food, daycare and clothing taken altogether. Why this basic logic escapes you is beyond my comprehension lol.

See now you’re just making shit up on the spot. You simply saying parents are lining up to adopt kids does not make it true. You’re just choosing to say that statement facts be damned. Like was I supposed to fall for that? You simply contradicting the fact I told you? Nope. Doesn’t work like that lol.

About 20 years ago my cousin and her husband were trying to adopt an American child. Couldn't be done. He worked in a factory and she's a CPA. Non smokers, social drinkers at best, and they lived in an upper middle-class community.

They finally adopted a child from Guatemala.

 

[jc456]

Actually what I said is that you wouldn’t profit in that scenario I said and the same logic applies to single moms on food stamps. The benefits they are getting are pennies on the dollar in comparison to rent, food, daycare and clothing taken altogether. Why this basic logic escapes you is beyond my comprehension lol.

See now you’re just making shit up on the spot. You simply saying parents are lining up to adopt kids does not make it true. You’re just choosing to say that statement facts be damned. Like was I supposed to fall for that? You simply contradicting the fact I told you? Nope. Doesn’t work like that lol.

Your point is lost. If you have an honest bone in your body, do the fathers use the money and stamps welfare moms get?

 

[WEATHER53]

Your child’s food is on you
Self sustenance is An American Value.

 

[Billy000]

About 20 years ago my cousin and her husband were trying to adopt an American child. Couldn't be done. He worked in a factory and she's a CPA. Non smokers, social drinkers at best, and they lived in an upper middle-class community.

They finally adopted a child from Guatemala.

Good I’m glad we agree that putting any impoverished kid up for adoption would be a terrible idea.

 

[22lcidw]

Actually what I said is that you wouldn’t profit in that scenario I said and the same logic applies to single moms on food stamps. The benefits they are getting are pennies on the dollar in comparison to rent, food, daycare and clothing taken altogether. Why this basic logic escapes you is beyond my comprehension lol.

See now you’re just making shit up on the spot. You simply saying parents are lining up to adopt kids does not make it true. You’re just choosing to say that statement facts be damned. Like was I supposed to fall for that? You simply contradicting the fact I told you? Nope. Doesn’t work like that lol.

This morning an engine on the SLS malfunctioned before launch. One of four underneath the orange tank. The engine was developed in the 1970's for the Space Shuttle. A launch system that was supposed to cost a few billion dollars now at twenty billion. And that does not include a capsule that was first developed in the 1960's which is another ten billion. This rocket should have launched several years ago. Equity has caused this along with a federal government that did not let go with the old way and let the private side have a bit freer reign. You see the equity when you watch TV on these things. Growing in numbers while the costs rise more and more. Prog agendas along with Repubs who genuflect to them have caused this and the issues you typed are part and parcel of all of it. China deserves to claim the water potential areas of the moon for themselves.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Good I’m glad we agree that putting any impoverished kid up for adoption would be a terrible idea.

How did I agree with that? I just stated it was impossible for her and her husband to get an American child meaning the demand for American children is higher than the supply of American children.

 

[jc456]

Good I’m glad we agree that putting any impoverished kid up for adoption would be a terrible idea.

How so. A house with no food, heat, and neglect is somehow good for children?

 

[Billy000]

How did I agree with that? I just stated it was impossible for her and her husband to get an American child meaning the demand for American children is higher than the supply of American children.

Lol I’m sorry what? You’re saying this anecdote of yours is somehow proof that demands exceeds the supply? Nope. Does not work like that.

 

[eagle1462010]

Many unwanted children end up in horrible foster homes, and being abused. They end up homeless or in prison:

Homeless Man Was Beaten and Tortured in Foster Care.

I grew up in foster care and was homeless for 7 years.​

Many unwanted children end up homeless because we live in a society that doesn't recognize housing as a human right. These conservative Republicans who are supposedly disciples of Jesus and follow the bible aren't obeying their supposed master and lord. The irony of these conservative religious folks who hate the poor and homeless. They don't obey their god.

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Blah blah blah its always others fault. You want govt to solve a problem it created. Politicians spent til our dollar is worthless so they cant afford housing. Sorry, the arsonist isnt the solution to fire protection

 

[Red Front]

When did Jesus say anybody that wants a handout should get one from the people? There's a difference between people who play the system and the unfortunate truly in need of help due to no fault of their own. The majority are the former.

Let's read the bible Christians claim to follow:

Deuteronomy 15:7-11​

7 “If among you, one of your brothers should become poor, in any of your towns within your land that the LORD your God is giving you, you shall not harden your heart or shut your hand against your poor brother, 8 but you shall open your hand to him and lend him sufficient for his need, whatever it may be. 9 Take care lest there be an unworthy thought in your heart and you say, ‘The seventh year, the year of release is near,’ and your eye look grudgingly on your poor brother, and you give him nothing, and he cry to the LORD against you, and you be guilty of sin. 10 You shall give to him freely, and your heart shall not be grudging when you give to him, because for this the LORD your God will bless you in all your work and in all that you undertake. 11 For there will never cease to be poor in the land. Therefore I command you, ‘You shall open wide your hand to your brother, to the needy and to the poor, in your land.’

A "brother" is a fellow Israelite, and "the land" is ancient Israel. Your compatriots, your fellow Americans, your comrades, you must feed and house them when they're in need. It's not your place or job to judge and condemn them, presuming that they did something wrong, because you don't know the circumstances of their lives. Why are they in that condition? You don't know. You can guess and condemn them, but that won't resolve the problem.

Leviticus 19:9-10​

9 “When you reap the harvest of your land, you shall not reap your field right up to its edge, neither shall you gather the gleanings after your harvest. 10 And you shall not strip your vineyard bare, neither shall you gather the fallen grapes of your vineyard. You shall leave them for the poor and for the sojourner: I am the LORD your God.

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Proverbs 14:21​

21 Whoever despises his neighbor is a sinner,
but blessed is he who is generous to the poor.

Proverbs 19:17​

17 Whoever is generous to the poor lends to the LORD,
and he will repay him for his deed.

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Proverbs 28:27​

27 Whoever gives to the poor will not want,
but he who hides his eyes will get many a curse.

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Jeremiah 29:7​

7 But seek the welfare of the city where I have sent you into exile, and pray to the LORD on its behalf, for in its welfare you will find your welfare.


Lev_23:22 And when ye reap the harvest of your land, thou shalt not wholly reap the corners of thy field, neither shalt thou gather the gleaning of thy harvest: thou shalt leave them for the poor, and for the soujourner: I am Jehovah your God.

Lev_25:35 And if thy brother be waxed poor, and his hand fail with thee; then thou shalt uphold him: as a stranger and a sojourner shall he live with thee.

Deu_15:4 Howbeit there shall be no poor with thee (for Jehovah will surely bless thee in the land which Jehovah thy God giveth thee for an inheritance to possess it),

Deu_15:7 If there be with thee a poor man, one of thy brethren, within any of thy gates in thy land which Jehovah thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not harden thy heart, nor shut thy hand from thy poor brother;


Isa 58:6 Is not this the fast that I have chosen: to loose the bonds of wickedness, to undo the bands of the yoke, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke?
Isa 58:7 Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh?
Isa 58:8 Then shall thy light break forth as the morning, and thy healing shall spring forth speedily; and thy righteousness shall go before thee; the glory of Jehovah shall be thy rearward.
Isa 58:9 Then shalt thou call, and Jehovah will answer; thou shalt cry, and he will say, Here I am. If thou take away from the midst of thee the yoke, the putting forth of the finger, and speaking wickedly;
Isa 58:10 and if thou draw out thy soul to the hungry, and satisfy the afflicted soul: then shall thy light rise in darkness, and thine obscurity be as the noonday;
Isa 58:11 and Jehovah will guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in dry places, and make strong thy bones; and thou shalt be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water, whose waters fail not.
Isa 58:12 And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places; thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou shalt be called The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in.

YHWH wants to house the homeless, feed them, and lift them up from the pit of hell. Our fellow Americans, our compatriots, our brothers, and sisters, must not be abandoned!

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That could be your daughter, sister, son, or brother. Do you want people judging and condemning them because they didn't meet someone's arbitrary, self-righteous standard of who constitutes someone worthy of being housed and fed? No, you want someone to reach out and lift them up from that hell. If the "born again" and "spirit-filled" Christians don't do it, we Marxists, Socialists, will do it. According to your bible, YHWH will use anyone that is willing to serve. Even an Atheist, communist wretch like me. That's how concerned YHWH is for the poor. He'll even use communists, to your shame. The supposed disciples of Jesus refuse to obey their master:


Mat 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into the eternal fire which is prepared for the devil and his angels:
Mat 25:42 for I was hungry, and ye did not give me to eat; I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink;
Mat 25:43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in; naked, and ye clothed me not; sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

I was a stranger, and you took me not in, says Jesus. You didn't open your door for me, housing me in your home.

I personally, don't have enough love in my heart to house the homeless here in my home. I don't have enough compassion to do that. Government is a social apparatus organized by the people to manage their LARGE SCALE socioeconomic, civil affairs, and projects. Government isn't inherently good, it's not inherently evil, it's whatever we want it to be. Our society, our nation, should recognize that food, housing, healthcare, education, and a job are essential human rights. According to your bible, the poor have rights:


Psa_140:12 I know that the LORD will maintain the cause of the afflicted, and the right of the poor.

Amo_5:12 For I know your manifold transgressions and your mighty sins: they afflict the just, they take a bribe, and they turn aside the poor in the gate from their right.

 

[Red Front]

Blah blah blah its always others fault. You want govt to solve a problem it created. Politicians spent til our dollar is worthless so they cant afford housing. Sorry, the arsonist isnt the solution to fire protection

Government is whatever we want it to be. It's indifference to the poor that creates homeless encampments, people sleeping on the sidewalk. We can quickly eliminate homelessness in America by recognizing that everyone has a right to at least, basic housing.

 

[Meathead]

Let's read the bible Christians claim to follow:

Deuteronomy 15:7-11​

7 “If among you, one of your brothers should become poor, in any of your towns within your land that the LORD your God is giving you, you shall not harden your heart or shut your hand against your poor brother, 8 but you shall open your hand to him and lend him sufficient for his need, whatever it may be. 9 Take care lest there be an unworthy thought in your heart and you say, ‘The seventh year, the year of release is near,’ and your eye look grudgingly on your poor brother, and you give him nothing, and he cry to the LORD against you, and you be guilty of sin. 10 You shall give to him freely, and your heart shall not be grudging when you give to him, because for this the LORD your God will bless you in all your work and in all that you undertake. 11 For there will never cease to be poor in the land. Therefore I command you, ‘You shall open wide your hand to your brother, to the needy and to the poor, in your land.’

A "brother" is a fellow Israelite, and "the land" is ancient Israel. Your compatriots, your fellow Americans, your comrades, you must feed and house them when they're in need. It's not your place or job to judge and condemn them, presuming that they did something wrong, because you don't know the circumstances of their lives. Why are they in that condition? You don't know. You can guess and condemn them, but that won't resolve the problem.

Leviticus 19:9-10​

9 “When you reap the harvest of your land, you shall not reap your field right up to its edge, neither shall you gather the gleanings after your harvest. 10 And you shall not strip your vineyard bare, neither shall you gather the fallen grapes of your vineyard. You shall leave them for the poor and for the sojourner: I am the LORD your God.

​

Proverbs 14:21​

21 Whoever despises his neighbor is a sinner,
but blessed is he who is generous to the poor.

Proverbs 19:17​

17 Whoever is generous to the poor lends to the LORD,
and he will repay him for his deed.

​

Proverbs 28:27​

27 Whoever gives to the poor will not want,
but he who hides his eyes will get many a curse.

​

Jeremiah 29:7​

7 But seek the welfare of the city where I have sent you into exile, and pray to the LORD on its behalf, for in its welfare you will find your welfare.


Lev_23:22 And when ye reap the harvest of your land, thou shalt not wholly reap the corners of thy field, neither shalt thou gather the gleaning of thy harvest: thou shalt leave them for the poor, and for the soujourner: I am Jehovah your God.

Lev_25:35 And if thy brother be waxed poor, and his hand fail with thee; then thou shalt uphold him: as a stranger and a sojourner shall he live with thee.

Deu_15:4 Howbeit there shall be no poor with thee (for Jehovah will surely bless thee in the land which Jehovah thy God giveth thee for an inheritance to possess it),

Deu_15:7 If there be with thee a poor man, one of thy brethren, within any of thy gates in thy land which Jehovah thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not harden thy heart, nor shut thy hand from thy poor brother;


Isa 58:6 Is not this the fast that I have chosen: to loose the bonds of wickedness, to undo the bands of the yoke, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke?
Isa 58:7 Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh?
Isa 58:8 Then shall thy light break forth as the morning, and thy healing shall spring forth speedily; and thy righteousness shall go before thee; the glory of Jehovah shall be thy rearward.
Isa 58:9 Then shalt thou call, and Jehovah will answer; thou shalt cry, and he will say, Here I am. If thou take away from the midst of thee the yoke, the putting forth of the finger, and speaking wickedly;
Isa 58:10 and if thou draw out thy soul to the hungry, and satisfy the afflicted soul: then shall thy light rise in darkness, and thine obscurity be as the noonday;
Isa 58:11 and Jehovah will guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in dry places, and make strong thy bones; and thou shalt be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water, whose waters fail not.
Isa 58:12 And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places; thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou shalt be called The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in.

YHWH wants to house the homeless, feed them, and lift them up from the pit of hell. Our fellow Americans, our compatriots, our brothers, and sisters, must not be abandoned!

​

That could be your daughter, sister, son, or brother. Do you want people judging and condemning them because they didn't meet someone's arbitrary, self-righteous standard of who constitutes someone worthy of being housed and fed? No, you want someone to reach out and lift them up from that hell. If the "born again" and "spirit-filled" Christians don't do it, we Marxists, Socialists, will do it. According to your bible, YHWH will use anyone that is willing to serve. Even an Atheist, communist wretch like me. That's how concerned YHWH is for the poor. He'll even use communists, to your shame. The supposed disciples of Jesus refuse to obey their master:


Mat 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into the eternal fire which is prepared for the devil and his angels:
Mat 25:42 for I was hungry, and ye did not give me to eat; I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink;
Mat 25:43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in; naked, and ye clothed me not; sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

I was a stranger, and you took me not in, says Jesus. You didn't open your door for me, housing me in your home.

I personally, don't have enough love in my heart to house the homeless here in my home. I don't have enough compassion to do that. Government is a social apparatus organized by the people to manage their LARGE SCALE socioeconomic, civil affairs, and projects. Government isn't inherently good, it's not inherently evil, it's whatever we want it to be. Our society, our nation, should recognize that food, housing, healthcare, education, and a job are essential human rights. According to your bible, the poor have rights:


Psa_140:12 I know that the LORD will maintain the cause of the afflicted, and the right of the poor.

Amo_5:12 For I know your manifold transgressions and your mighty sins: they afflict the just, they take a bribe, and they turn aside the poor in the gate from their right.

How incredibly noble of you. But when is enough enough?

 

[Dragonlady]

Is building spaceships R&D? When NASA does it, they classify it as R&R. When SpaceX does it, they call it manufacturing.

That shows that your statistics are total bullshit. Furthermore, why would business do basic research when the government does it for them?

SpaceX has done no research. All of the commercial space travel companies have piggy-backed their rocket research and development onto the NASA programs, eliminating the most expensive and time consuming research of all.

 

[Meathead]

SpaceX has done no research. All of the commercial space travel companies have piggy-backed their rocket research and development onto the NASA programs, eliminating the most expensive and time consuming research of all.

The most expensive and time-consuming research is collection and analysis of data you dingbat.

 

[Dragonlady]

How incredibly noble of you. But when is enough enough?

When you have no more to give. Good words without good deeds, have no value.

When Ft. McMurray burned in the wildfires a few years ago, the Syrian refugees who were newly arrived in Canada at the time, made and distrubuted "personal care bags" for the citizens fleeing the fires, because when they were in the refugee camps, soap, toothpaste, and personal care items were the things that they missed the most. These were people who had nothing, but found a way to help others.