When republicans complain about single moms getting food stamps, why don’t they consider the well-being of the child?

[themirrorthief]

Single moms having kids they can’t afford is an easy target. It makes a right winger feel superior by shitting on such a woman. It makes it easy to rail against the idea of food stamps altogether. Such a person judging feels superior because they aren’t on food stamps and have a full time job in comparison. Somebody should probably tell them that it is very common for anyone to have a full time job and not be on food stamps lol. Such people judging aren’t as special as they like to think they are. Food stamps is not the epidemic that republicans like to think it is. They simply pretend that it is because it makes them feel less insecure about themselves. The truth is that few actual able bodied adults are even on food stamps. The ones that are have dependents.

But sure, such irresponsible women do exist.

We can all agree: an impoverished woman should not have kids and she made a mistake when she had one. Okay sure. However, the kid still…. exists. What should we do with that kid? Should the kid suffer because of the mom’s mistakes? Probably not, right? Government assistance is required either way.

New USDA Report Provides Picture of Who Participates in SNAP - Food Research & Action Center

The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) has been issuing a series of annual reports on the demographic and economic characteristics of households and individuals participating in the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP). The latest report, covering fiscal year 2019, was released at...

frac.org

“SNAP targets those in greatest need. Among those participating in the program, most are children, elderly persons, or individuals with a disability. In fact, 86 percent of all SNAP benefits go to households that include a child, elderly person, or person with disabilities. In addition, about 92 percent of all SNAP benefits go to households with income at or below the federal poverty line.”

if you cant afford a child,,,,why are you having one...are you stupid...just get woke

 

[Billy000]

I didn't say the dollar store. I said the grocery store. I wouldn't be caught dead in a dollar store. Do you think these people have any pride to try and hide how they are paying for their food? F no. They whip out that SNAP's card as if they're some sort of super hero. If anything they are very arrogant about it.

The newest SNAP's card scam is they stand in line and ask people if they can use their SNAP's card to pay for some of your food. You let them use their card to buy let's say 25 dollars of your food. At the end of the line you give him 20 bucks for your items back. They converted their card for 20 dollars to buy booze and cigarettes, and you saved 5 bucks on your grocery purchase.

Lol im pretty sure you said dollar store. But either way, you’re lying. You just are. You’re just blindly assuming they are on SNAP based on nothing. Maybe I could give too the benefit of the doubt you noticed it ONCE but then you decided to pretend it was some rampant behavior you see every time you’re in the check out line. Either way, why don’t you mind your own fucking business? Why would anyone have respect for a snoop like you? You come across like a total Karen truth be told lol.

Also this scam you’re talking about is hilarious. Let me guess: someone tried this on you? Nope. Never happened. You’re a liar.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The government doesn't have to own a place, store, or business to employ citizens and legal residents. It can through a public works program, put people to work, lay new highways, inspect and work on bridges, and build infrastructure. We would eliminate all unemployment and no one would be forced to "get fixed" or get a vasectomy. Food, housing, healthcare, education, and employment/jobs, should be human rights guaranteed by our government.

God do you live in your own tiny world. You think welfare people are going to build highways, infrastructure, and inspect bridges? If that ever happens, let me know where that's at so I can stay the hell away from those bridges.

You are probably much younger than I am. but in the 90's we had welfare reform. You had to work if you were capable of it. The problem was nobody would hire these people; not because of lack of experience, but because of such low intelligence and education.

They finally found their place in customer service answering phones. You couldn't get anything accomplished with these people. They were too stupid to address your concerns. It was like trying to discuss a problem with a 5 year old. It was worse talking to somebody at any government agency.

 

[jc456]

Single moms having kids they can’t afford is an easy target. It makes a right winger feel superior by shitting on such a woman. It makes it easy to rail against the idea of food stamps altogether. Such a person judging feels superior because they aren’t on food stamps and have a full time job in comparison. Somebody should probably tell them that it is very common for anyone to have a full time job and not be on food stamps lol. Such people judging aren’t as special as they like to think they are. Food stamps is not the epidemic that republicans like to think it is. They simply pretend that it is because it makes them feel less insecure about themselves. The truth is that few actual able bodied adults are even on food stamps. The ones that are have dependents.

But sure, such irresponsible women do exist.

We can all agree: an impoverished woman should not have kids and she made a mistake when she had one. Okay sure. However, the kid still…. exists. What should we do with that kid? Should the kid suffer because of the mom’s mistakes? Probably not, right? Government assistance is required either way.

New USDA Report Provides Picture of Who Participates in SNAP - Food Research & Action Center

The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) has been issuing a series of annual reports on the demographic and economic characteristics of households and individuals participating in the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP). The latest report, covering fiscal year 2019, was released at...

frac.org

“SNAP targets those in greatest need. Among those participating in the program, most are children, elderly persons, or individuals with a disability. In fact, 86 percent of all SNAP benefits go to households that include a child, elderly person, or person with disabilities. In addition, about 92 percent of all SNAP benefits go to households with income at or below the federal poverty line.”

Where are the fathers?

 

[jc456]

Your biased, random opinions about people you see in a super market does not somehow represent reality. I mean obviously you can’t even give factual information to back up what you’re saying. You know know nothing about these people you see. You do get that right?

Where are the fathers?

 

[jc456]

Finally, where are the fathers?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Lol im pretty sure you said dollar store. But either way, you’re lying. You just are. You’re just blindly assuming they are on SNAP based on nothing. Maybe I could give too the benefit of the doubt you noticed it ONCE but then you decided to pretend it was some rampant behavior you see every time you’re in the check out line. Either way, why don’t you mind your own fucking business? Why would anyone have respect for a snoop like you? You come across like a total Karen truth be told lol.

Also this scam you’re talking about is hilarious. Let me guess: someone tried this on you? Nope. Never happened. You’re a liar.

When it's my tax money paying to feed other people, it becomes my business.

You must have serious comprehension problems or are public schooled. I said I can see the SNAP's card when they use it. In Ohio they are transcending over other cards. Plus there is no reason for one customer to checkout twice except food stamp people. Their first purchase is what they could buy on their SNAP's card, and the second is a cash purchase for all the things SNAP doesn't cover: Beer, wine, flowers, cleaning products, huge bags of dog food or cat litter, things like that.

 

[Billy000]

Finally, where are the fathers?

Why are you saying this? Is it supposed to be some kind of clever point? You’re failing.

 

[Red Front]

Agree. What that antisemitic communist doesn’t realize - or pretends not to know - is that when he says The Government will provide as needed and eliminate poverty is that a) the government is funded By the half of Americans who pay taxes, and thus it’s just distributing resources from the productive to the non-productive, b) by The Government taking from those who earned it and giving it to those who need it, via created slack-off “government workers,” will disincentivize real workers, c) the only way we can force people to work is by refusing to provide free stuff to them.

The answer to our problems is to REDUCE government handouts, and give people a choice: work or go hungry.

The federal government doesn't rely on taxes to fund itself, only state and local governments do. Our current federal government is the exclusive issuer of the USD, hence unlike state, and local governments, which use the dollar, the federal government is the "creator" of our currency, not a mere user. The budgetary constraints of our federal government are defined by our GDP i.e. Gross Domestic Product or the nation's productive potential. which is highly dependent upon employment. The federal government taxes not to receive revenue to fund itself, but to maintain the value of the dollar and manage inflation, taking money out of the economy. You're confusing micro and macroeconomics, the economics of the household or private enterprise with the economics of an exclusive issuer of a sovereign currency.

Marx, a Jewish genius and the father of modern socialism, asserts that we should create a society where food, housing, healthcare, education, and employment are essential human rights. Society should provide a foundation upon which people can build their lives. Poverty, homelessness, and unemployment are a lot more expensive than simply eliminating them. We don't need to resort to eugenics, genocide, or murder to eliminate poverty in America. Ironically, many of the people on this forum, who espouse and promote draconian government policies to eliminate poverty, claim to be bible believing Christians. They obviously haven't read their bibles much.

 

[jc456]

Why are you saying this? Is it supposed to be some kind of clever point? You’re failing.

Why aren’t the fathers paying for their kids? Your brain is fried

 

[Lisa558]

Why aren’t the fathers paying for their kids? Your brain is fried

Because the leftists have arranged to have taxpayers do it instead. That way, deadbeat Dad continues to vote for Democrats who will force other people to support his kids.

 

[Billy000]

Why aren’t the fathers paying for their kids? Your brain is fried

I don’t know. Obviously they should. Why would anyone disagree with this? What infinitely witty point are you trying so hard to make?

 

[Lisa558]

I don’t know. Obviously they should. Why would anyone disagree with this? What infinitely witty point are you trying so hard to make?

The point was made above. Thanks to LBJ’s programs, taxpayers now have to support other people’s kids, and deadbeat fathers are off the hook.

 

[Red Front]

God do you live in your own tiny world. You think welfare people are going to build highways, infrastructure, and inspect bridges? If that ever happens, let me know where that's at so I can stay the hell away from those bridges.

You are probably much younger than I am. but in the 90's we had welfare reform. You had to work if you were capable of it. The problem was nobody would hire these people; not because of lack of experience, but because of such low intelligence and education.

They finally found their place in customer service answering phones. You couldn't get anything accomplished with these people. They were too stupid to address your concerns. It was like trying to discuss a problem with a 5 year old. It was worse talking to somebody at any government agency.

You might be willing to throw people under the bus but we socialists believe people can be educated, trained, and given a chance to become excellent, productive, decent human beings. If we lived in a society that recognizes food, housing, healthcare, education, and employment, as essential human rights, we would eliminate the material conditions that lead to what you were describing. Certain material conditions lead people into despair and depression, giving up on life. We believe society should provide all of its members with a foundation upon which to build a meaningful, productive, rewarding life. Abandoning people like this:

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Costs society a lot more than simply providing them with housing, medical care/drug counseling/mental health services, vocational job training, and gainful employment.

 

[Billy000]

The point was made above. Thanks to LBJ’s programs, taxpayers now have to support other people’s kids, and deadbeat fathers are off the hook.

Um no that wasn’t his point. He simply said where the fathers were as if this wasn’t already an obvious question lol

 

[Mac-7]

Innovation comes mostly from government-funded R&D. Most of the advanced technology that we use today, was researched and developed in universities or by corporations that were heavily funded and subsidized by the government. Throughout history, the governments of the world, often invested heavily in the development of new technology, whether it was to develop new weapons or new ways to farm, irrigate the land, construct buildings, and walls, build sea vessels..etc. It was the authorities that supported such research and development.

Innovation comes mostly from government-funded R&D.


Thats not so

73% comes from the private sector

The State of U.S. Science and Engineering 2020 | NSF - National Science Foundation

This report covers trends in and the relative global position of the U.S. S&E enterprise, including education, workforce, R&D, industry output, and innovation. Data show mixed trends. The United States continues to perform the most R&D, award the most S&E doctoral degrees, and account for...

www.ncses.nsf.gov

 

[jc456]

I don’t know. Obviously they should. Why would anyone disagree with this? What infinitely witty point are you trying so hard to make?

Why isn’t that a question, prerequisite when filling out paperwork? Also, how do we know the fathers aren’t sucking up that money?

 

[bripat9643]

It’s amazing how fucking dense you morons are lol. No one is defending the mother. It’s about providing support for the kid. Here is some basic common sense you seem to lack entirely: when women have kids they can’t afford and they receive government assistance, they are not at all profiting from it. They aren’t even breaking even because the assistance they get is not nearly enough to support a kid. Those women are miserable either way.

Oh and you sound like a complete tool for shaming a teenager for having a kid even though she herself would be a kid. Are you too dense to understand that teenagers do stupid shit?

I’m just so sick of how stupid you all are lol.

Of course they are receiving profit from it. They're getting a check from the government.

They've already demonstrated their unfitness to be a mother, so why should the taxpayers support her? She should be forced to put her child up for adoption.

You are obviously too stupid to understand that they are far more likely to do stupid things when government relieves them of the responsibility for doing stupid things.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You might be willing to throw people under the bus but we socialists believe people can be educated, trained, and given a chance to become excellent, productive, decent human beings.

How about a true story here:

Back in the early 80's I attended electronics school at the request of my employer. Our first day in class, the teacher drew a 12 volt battery on the chalkboard, and a line going to two resistors. He explained that each resistor will absorb six volts of the battery's power He asked if there were any questions, and we quietly laughed.

One black guy raised his hand. He couldn't figure out why two resistors each absorbed 6 volts of power. The teacher tried to explain it to him for about five minutes, but this guy didn't have the intelligence or education to figure out 6+6=12. I whispered to the classmate next to me "I don't think this guy is going to make it." He whispered back "I know he won't. This is his third time taking the first semester."

During break I got to talking with the guy next to me. He explained he had medical issues so he had to drop out the last time he attended the school. He told me that the black guy was on some sort of government program, and they'll continue to pay for his schooling as long as he's willing to go.

 

[Billy000]

Why isn’t that a question when filling out paperwork? Also, how do we know the fathers aren’t sucking up that money?

So what difference would the question make? Either way they aren’t supporting the kid regardless of why lol. Again, this isn’t about defending the mothers or how they got to where they are. This about the kids benefiting. The mothers do not make a profit off of it. Nothing about that makes any sense.