When will the next "lewd" tape recording be released?

[gipper]

and that IS riding the fence.

I realize that's how partisans think. "If you're not this, you must be that".

Simple, binary, safe.

No problem.
.

Is this statement considered partisan in your mind?

"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice... and moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue."

It's terribly simplistic.

What, in your mind, is "extremism", specifically?

What, in your mind, is "liberty", specifically?

What, in your mind, is "moderation", specifically?

What, in your mind, is "justice", specifically?

My mind doesn't work in bumper sticker slogans. Life is more complicated than that.
.

Oh damn...stop. I am laughing too hard. Please stop.

You really missed your calling. You should be a liberal politician.

I'm just a financial advisor, and I have to carefully examine all facets of a situation before I make a move.

I don't have the luxury of just spitting out shallow slogans like some drunk guy at a bar saying "If I were King, I'd....."

I know that there are always multiple sides to a ry, and I'm humble enough to realize I don't know it all. So I have to carefully and patiently collect, digest, and analyze information before drawing a conclusion.

I can't just listen to the radio to be told what to think, I have to be responsible.
.

You should really consider getting into politics. I suspect you could make a lot more money there than as a financial adviser. You could model your campaign after those of Bill Clinton. You know? Believe in nothing and never espouse a strong conviction about anything.

 

[NoNukes]

When is the next debate? Btw, anyone thinking "Fox News" is in the bag for Trump are stupid. Yes, all left wingers are stupid. That is a fact as we all know.

The funny thing is when they released that horrible thing Trump said 12 years ago, that all men and women say (especially women) just before the last debate, it was suppose to be the kill shot.....again. By Monday he was suppose to bow out and Pence take over. CNN had their orders, to TAKE HIM OUT, and damn they tried. Didn't they?

Of course the sheep fall right in line. The little lambs, just falling for all of the transparent political games. They are adorable aren't they? Especially when they portray themselves as being soooo intelligent and morally superior. Sigh.....

Anyway, the scary thing is if sure fire tactics don't work the way they worked on Cain or Allen West, is they will go to more extreme measures. That is my prediction. In order to protect their secrets? The notion that Trump might open an investigation into hillary? Oh, that is their worst nightmare.

What, you don't think that has the potential of putting EVERYONE IN JAIL? Including republicans and everyone else who dip their beaks into God knows what?

If he is a real threat to win it and if he is not taken out by the normal methods, they will go to other EXTREMES.

Either way, as I predicted, no way does he survive the political establishment machine.

Anyone who says 'We know that all left wingers are stupid' is a moron not be listened to.

 

[Mac1958]

I realize that's how partisans think. "If you're not this, you must be that".

Simple, binary, safe.

No problem.
.

Is this statement considered partisan in your mind?

"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice... and moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue."

It's terribly simplistic.

What, in your mind, is "extremism", specifically?

What, in your mind, is "liberty", specifically?

What, in your mind, is "moderation", specifically?

What, in your mind, is "justice", specifically?

My mind doesn't work in bumper sticker slogans. Life is more complicated than that.
.

Oh damn...stop. I am laughing too hard. Please stop.

You really missed your calling. You should be a liberal politician.

I'm just a financial advisor, and I have to carefully examine all facets of a situation before I make a move.

I don't have the luxury of just spitting out shallow slogans like some drunk guy at a bar saying "If I were King, I'd....."

I know that there are always multiple sides to a ry, and I'm humble enough to realize I don't know it all. So I have to carefully and patiently collect, digest, and analyze information before drawing a conclusion.

I can't just listen to the radio to be told what to think, I have to be responsible.
.

You should really consider getting into politics. I suspect you could make a lot more money there than as a financial adviser. You could model your campaign after those of Bill Clinton. You know? Believe in nothing and never espouse a strong conviction about anything.

Well, as I've said, I'm more than happy to provide my specific ideas and plans on any topic you'd like, from income taxes to health care to immigration, you name it.

Just start a thread and invite me, I'll be there.

Go ahead, looking forward to it.

Or you can just keep buzzing around, making vague insults. Whatever.
.

 

[bodecea]

When is the next debate? Btw, anyone thinking "Fox News" is in the bag for Trump are stupid. Yes, all left wingers are stupid. That is a fact as we all know.

The funny thing is when they released that horrible thing Trump said 12 years ago, that all men and women say (especially women) just before the last debate, it was suppose to be the kill shot.....again. By Monday he was suppose to bow out and Pence take over. CNN had their orders, to TAKE HIM OUT, and damn they tried. Didn't they?

Of course the sheep fall right in line. The little lambs, just falling for all of the transparent political games. They are adorable aren't they? Especially when they portray themselves as being soooo intelligent and morally superior. Sigh.....

Anyway, the scary thing is if sure fire tactics don't work the way they worked on Cain or Allen West, is they will go to more extreme measures. That is my prediction. In order to protect their secrets? The notion that Trump might open an investigation into hillary? Oh, that is their worst nightmare.

What, you don't think that has the potential of putting EVERYONE IN JAIL? Including republicans and everyone else who dip their beaks into God knows what?

If he is a real threat to win it and if he is not taken out by the normal methods, they will go to other EXTREMES.

Either way, as I predicted, no way does he survive the political establishment machine.

 

[Theowl32]

Hillary's? Cause all she has and all democrats ever have is the victimology strategy.

Name anything that she stands for that is not trying to placate any perceived victim.

From the minimum wage bullshit......AND poor poor little women who get sooooo mistreated by white male Christians.

Name one thing. Trump has actually brought a lot of issues to the forefront, which is then turned into racism by the left.

You are denying hillary lies? Really, I cannot tell.

What are your specific concerns. Humor me for a moment. Try NOT pretending you are above political extremes ONCE and tell me exactly what you want.

Blacks to have more things? What? Unfettered immigrant crossing the border? 100s of thousands of Syrian refugees coming in? You think they will all be "vetted" or is that done so conservatives would protest so they can set up their narrative how racist conservative America is?

What do you specifically want?

Is there something ambiguous about "a substantive, civil and detailed conversation on the issues that affect this country"?

Let's hear about their personal income tax plans and precisely why they feel it's the best way to go, supported by appropriate facts and data.

Let's hear about their business income tax plans and precisely why they feel it's the best way to go, supported by appropriate facts and data.

Let's hear about their idea of the role of the Fed and precisely why they feel it's the best way to go, supported by appropriate facts and data.

Let's hear about their plans about Russia and the Middle East and precisely why they feel it's the best way to go, supported by appropriate facts and data.

Let's hear about their specific plans for health care and precisely why they feel it's the best way to go, supported by appropriate facts and data.

Let's hear about their plans for unions and precisely why they feel it's the best way to go, supported by appropriate facts and data.

Let's hear about their plans for improving race relations and precisely why they feel it's the best way to go, supported by appropriate facts and data.

Let's hear about their plans for education and precisely why they feel it's the best way to go, supported by appropriate facts and data.

Let's hear about their plans for financial industry regulation and precisely why they feel it's the best way to go, supported by appropriate facts and data.

Let's hear about their plans for immigration and precisely why they feel it's the best way to go, supported by appropriate facts and data.

That's a start.

And then, when both of them provide the above specific information, the other could respectfully challenge them, and then they could go back and forth.

Did I really need to say this?
.

Oh sooo, neither of them have addressed those specific things?

Can you please what you want as far as income tax, immigration, or minimum wage etc?

Forget what they have not put out in detail, just tell me what YOU want.

Thanks

Has this happened in their debates? Really? Maybe I missed it, please provide a link.

And I'm more than happy to provide specifics on my stand on issues -- no one provides more original thought and ideas on the issues than ol' Mac -- but I'm not going to hijack a thread. Please feel free to start a thread on that and I'll be happy to contribute.

Looking forward to that link, thanks.
.

Cool, whatever.

Can you now please tell me what direction you would like to see the country go?

I know I am pissing in the wind with you. I am not expecting you to tell me what direction YOU WANT this country to go.

What I do know is you are a never trumper. Which means one of a few things. One, you are a socialist who does not like all of things the free market enterprise has provided you in the ways of countless opportunities and amenities. You think blacks have no rights and need more free things cause they incapable of achieving anything without hand outs. Maybe you like Unfettered immigration and hate the notion that this country has immigration laws like every other country.

I don't know. I don't know what you want, cause you are dancing around my rhetorical questions like wild injuns around a fire.

I will try it again.

What direction do you want this country to go? The way of Europe and their socialist shit, or the free market that the world envies?

Okay, I'll (once again) keep this as simple as I can.

Imagine a line with a libertarian utopia on the Right and a Communist Utopia on the Left.

A Euro-social Democracy would be to the Left of where we are now, but to the right of actual Socialism.

I'd like to be about halfway between where we are now and a Euro-social Democracy.

Here's another idea: I think this graph from an online political test is pretty accurate:

Is, is that little red dot, you?

 

[Mac1958]

Is there something ambiguous about "a substantive, civil and detailed conversation on the issues that affect this country"?

Let's hear about their personal income tax plans and precisely why they feel it's the best way to go, supported by appropriate facts and data.

Let's hear about their business income tax plans and precisely why they feel it's the best way to go, supported by appropriate facts and data.

Let's hear about their idea of the role of the Fed and precisely why they feel it's the best way to go, supported by appropriate facts and data.

Let's hear about their plans about Russia and the Middle East and precisely why they feel it's the best way to go, supported by appropriate facts and data.

Let's hear about their specific plans for health care and precisely why they feel it's the best way to go, supported by appropriate facts and data.

Let's hear about their plans for unions and precisely why they feel it's the best way to go, supported by appropriate facts and data.

Let's hear about their plans for improving race relations and precisely why they feel it's the best way to go, supported by appropriate facts and data.

Let's hear about their plans for education and precisely why they feel it's the best way to go, supported by appropriate facts and data.

Let's hear about their plans for financial industry regulation and precisely why they feel it's the best way to go, supported by appropriate facts and data.

Let's hear about their plans for immigration and precisely why they feel it's the best way to go, supported by appropriate facts and data.

That's a start.

And then, when both of them provide the above specific information, the other could respectfully challenge them, and then they could go back and forth.

Did I really need to say this?
.

Oh sooo, neither of them have addressed those specific things?

Can you please what you want as far as income tax, immigration, or minimum wage etc?

Forget what they have not put out in detail, just tell me what YOU want.

Thanks

Has this happened in their debates? Really? Maybe I missed it, please provide a link.

And I'm more than happy to provide specifics on my stand on issues -- no one provides more original thought and ideas on the issues than ol' Mac -- but I'm not going to hijack a thread. Please feel free to start a thread on that and I'll be happy to contribute.

Looking forward to that link, thanks.
.

Cool, whatever.

Can you now please tell me what direction you would like to see the country go?

I know I am pissing in the wind with you. I am not expecting you to tell me what direction YOU WANT this country to go.

What I do know is you are a never trumper. Which means one of a few things. One, you are a socialist who does not like all of things the free market enterprise has provided you in the ways of countless opportunities and amenities. You think blacks have no rights and need more free things cause they incapable of achieving anything without hand outs. Maybe you like Unfettered immigration and hate the notion that this country has immigration laws like every other country.

I don't know. I don't know what you want, cause you are dancing around my rhetorical questions like wild injuns around a fire.

I will try it again.

What direction do you want this country to go? The way of Europe and their socialist shit, or the free market that the world envies?

Okay, I'll (once again) keep this as simple as I can.

Imagine a line with a libertarian utopia on the Right and a Communist Utopia on the Left.

A Euro-social Democracy would be to the Left of where we are now, but to the right of actual Socialism.

I'd like to be about halfway between where we are now and a Euro-social Democracy.

Here's another idea: I think this graph from an online political test is pretty accurate:

Is, is that little red dot, you?

Yes sir!
.

 

[Theowl32]

Is this statement considered partisan in your mind?

"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice... and moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue."

It's terribly simplistic.

What, in your mind, is "extremism", specifically?

What, in your mind, is "liberty", specifically?

What, in your mind, is "moderation", specifically?

What, in your mind, is "justice", specifically?

My mind doesn't work in bumper sticker slogans. Life is more complicated than that.
.

Oh damn...stop. I am laughing too hard. Please stop.

You really missed your calling. You should be a liberal politician.

I'm just a financial advisor, and I have to carefully examine all facets of a situation before I make a move.

I don't have the luxury of just spitting out shallow slogans like some drunk guy at a bar saying "If I were King, I'd....."

I know that there are always multiple sides to a ry, and I'm humble enough to realize I don't know it all. So I have to carefully and patiently collect, digest, and analyze information before drawing a conclusion.

I can't just listen to the radio to be told what to think, I have to be responsible.
.

You should really consider getting into politics. I suspect you could make a lot more money there than as a financial adviser. You could model your campaign after those of Bill Clinton. You know? Believe in nothing and never espouse a strong conviction about anything.

Well, as I've said, I'm more than happy to provide my specific ideas and plans on any topic you'd like, from income taxes to health care to immigration, you name it.

Just start a thread and invite me, I'll be there.

Go ahead, looking forward to it.

Or you can just keep buzzing around, making vague insults. Whatever.
.

Why don't you start your own thread about each issue. Tell us what you want and how you like to be paid for etc. Please provide all logistics if it is called for and it is almost always called for.

Thanks.

 

[bodecea]

GUy, get real.

Trump's worst enemy has always been Trump.

He's the malignant puss that oozes from the hate you guys have been festering for the last 24 years...

Enjoy him, embrace him, but don't be surprised that normal people are repulsed by him.

LOL Leftists are not normal by any stretch of the imagination.

Riiiiight. How dare we be offended by Drumpf's words. How dare we think that it would be offensive for him to say that about our mothers, our sisters, our children, our wives. How dare we not want such a misogynist as our President. Please be here Nov. 9th.

 

[Mac1958]

It's terribly simplistic.

What, in your mind, is "extremism", specifically?

What, in your mind, is "liberty", specifically?

What, in your mind, is "moderation", specifically?

What, in your mind, is "justice", specifically?

My mind doesn't work in bumper sticker slogans. Life is more complicated than that.
.

Oh damn...stop. I am laughing too hard. Please stop.

You really missed your calling. You should be a liberal politician.

I'm just a financial advisor, and I have to carefully examine all facets of a situation before I make a move.

I don't have the luxury of just spitting out shallow slogans like some drunk guy at a bar saying "If I were King, I'd....."

I know that there are always multiple sides to a ry, and I'm humble enough to realize I don't know it all. So I have to carefully and patiently collect, digest, and analyze information before drawing a conclusion.

I can't just listen to the radio to be told what to think, I have to be responsible.
.

You should really consider getting into politics. I suspect you could make a lot more money there than as a financial adviser. You could model your campaign after those of Bill Clinton. You know? Believe in nothing and never espouse a strong conviction about anything.

Well, as I've said, I'm more than happy to provide my specific ideas and plans on any topic you'd like, from income taxes to health care to immigration, you name it.

Just start a thread and invite me, I'll be there.

Go ahead, looking forward to it.

Or you can just keep buzzing around, making vague insults. Whatever.
.

Why don't you start your own thread about each issue. Tell us what you want and how you like to be paid for etc. Please provide all logistics if it is called for and it is almost always called for.

Thanks.

Why? You're so interested in my opinion, they're all over the place. Nice and specific.

This isn't my problem.
.

 

[bodecea]

When is the next debate? Btw, anyone thinking "Fox News" is in the bag for Trump are stupid. Yes, all left wingers are stupid. That is a fact as we all know.

The funny thing is when they released that horrible thing Trump said 12 years ago, that all men and women say (especially women) just before the last debate, it was suppose to be the kill shot.....again. By Monday he was suppose to bow out and Pence take over. CNN had their orders, to TAKE HIM OUT, and damn they tried. Didn't they?

Of course the sheep fall right in line. The little lambs, just falling for all of the transparent political games. They are adorable aren't they? Especially when they portray themselves as being soooo intelligent and morally superior. Sigh.....

Anyway, the scary thing is if sure fire tactics don't work the way they worked on Cain or Allen West, is they will go to more extreme measures. That is my prediction. In order to protect their secrets? The notion that Trump might open an investigation into hillary? Oh, that is their worst nightmare.

What, you don't think that has the potential of putting EVERYONE IN JAIL? Including republicans and everyone else who dip their beaks into God knows what?

If he is a real threat to win it and if he is not taken out by the normal methods, they will go to other EXTREMES.

Either way, as I predicted, no way does he survive the political establishment machine.

Boohoo...

In Politics your personal life and past words are fair game and if you hate the way the left has been acting, well then maybe Trump should have been a little nicer during the damn Primaries when it came to Ted Cruz and Ted Cruz family.

I know, I know, I know how dare I point to recent past comments by your beloved hero Donald Trump where he called Ted Cruz " Canadian Anchor Baby " while accusing Ted Cruz father being part of JFK death or pushed the Birther nonsense on your Republican Rival like Trump did.

Now you will write what does that have to do with anything you wrote?

Simple, you're crying about the releasing of Trump past words ( 11 years ago and not 12 because if you subtract 5 from 16 you get 11 ) and how mean the left has been and how the media has focused on your boy wonder and all I have to say is Boo fucking Hoo!

Play dirty then expect to get bitch slapped like the silly boy whore that he is!

Politics baby Politics and it is fucking dirty!

5 paragraphs of bullshit from a hypocritical little lamb on the left.

Tell all of us how offended you are by Trump again.

I need to laugh a little.

You fucking loser.

So, you are going to be here on Nov 9th to call us "fucking loser"?

 

[Theowl32]

Oh sooo, neither of them have addressed those specific things?

Can you please what you want as far as income tax, immigration, or minimum wage etc?

Forget what they have not put out in detail, just tell me what YOU want.

Thanks

Has this happened in their debates? Really? Maybe I missed it, please provide a link.

And I'm more than happy to provide specifics on my stand on issues -- no one provides more original thought and ideas on the issues than ol' Mac -- but I'm not going to hijack a thread. Please feel free to start a thread on that and I'll be happy to contribute.

Looking forward to that link, thanks.
.

Cool, whatever.

Can you now please tell me what direction you would like to see the country go?

I know I am pissing in the wind with you. I am not expecting you to tell me what direction YOU WANT this country to go.

What I do know is you are a never trumper. Which means one of a few things. One, you are a socialist who does not like all of things the free market enterprise has provided you in the ways of countless opportunities and amenities. You think blacks have no rights and need more free things cause they incapable of achieving anything without hand outs. Maybe you like Unfettered immigration and hate the notion that this country has immigration laws like every other country.

I don't know. I don't know what you want, cause you are dancing around my rhetorical questions like wild injuns around a fire.

I will try it again.

What direction do you want this country to go? The way of Europe and their socialist shit, or the free market that the world envies?

Okay, I'll (once again) keep this as simple as I can.

Imagine a line with a libertarian utopia on the Right and a Communist Utopia on the Left.

A Euro-social Democracy would be to the Left of where we are now, but to the right of actual Socialism.

I'd like to be about halfway between where we are now and a Euro-social Democracy.

Here's another idea: I think this graph from an online political test is pretty accurate:

Is, is that little red dot, you?

Yes sir!
.

lol

Ok

 

[edthecynic]

Cause all she has and all democrats ever have is the victimology strategy.

Hold on just a minute there Slick, ALL Trump does when he isn't lying, raping and slandering is play the perpetual victim!!!

 

[bodecea]

LOL Leftists are not normal by any stretch of the imagination.

Then how come they keep winning elections? Shit, if you guys didn't steal the election in 2000, you wouldn't have won an election at all since 1988.

How'd those last midterms turn out for ya, old timer?

And the funny thing is....how did they turn out for you? What did your midterm majority accomplish?

 

[gipper]

Is this statement considered partisan in your mind?

"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice... and moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue."

It's terribly simplistic.

What, in your mind, is "extremism", specifically?

What, in your mind, is "liberty", specifically?

What, in your mind, is "moderation", specifically?

What, in your mind, is "justice", specifically?

My mind doesn't work in bumper sticker slogans. Life is more complicated than that.
.

Oh damn...stop. I am laughing too hard. Please stop.

You really missed your calling. You should be a liberal politician.

I'm just a financial advisor, and I have to carefully examine all facets of a situation before I make a move.

I don't have the luxury of just spitting out shallow slogans like some drunk guy at a bar saying "If I were King, I'd....."

I know that there are always multiple sides to a ry, and I'm humble enough to realize I don't know it all. So I have to carefully and patiently collect, digest, and analyze information before drawing a conclusion.

I can't just listen to the radio to be told what to think, I have to be responsible.
.

You should really consider getting into politics. I suspect you could make a lot more money there than as a financial adviser. You could model your campaign after those of Bill Clinton. You know? Believe in nothing and never espouse a strong conviction about anything.

Well, as I've said, I'm more than happy to provide my specific ideas and plans on any topic you'd like, from income taxes to health care to immigration, you name it.

Just start a thread and invite me, I'll be there.

Go ahead, looking forward to it.

Or you can just keep buzzing around, making vague insults. Whatever.
.

You have been here a LONG time...28k posts...and other than your comments on political correctness, you have successfully straddled the fence expertly.

 

[edthecynic]

He has said there may be more tapes out there. He is admitting he has talked like this before

EXACTLY!!!!!

 

[Mac1958]

It's terribly simplistic.

What, in your mind, is "extremism", specifically?

What, in your mind, is "liberty", specifically?

What, in your mind, is "moderation", specifically?

What, in your mind, is "justice", specifically?

My mind doesn't work in bumper sticker slogans. Life is more complicated than that.
.

Oh damn...stop. I am laughing too hard. Please stop.

You really missed your calling. You should be a liberal politician.

I'm just a financial advisor, and I have to carefully examine all facets of a situation before I make a move.

I don't have the luxury of just spitting out shallow slogans like some drunk guy at a bar saying "If I were King, I'd....."

I know that there are always multiple sides to a ry, and I'm humble enough to realize I don't know it all. So I have to carefully and patiently collect, digest, and analyze information before drawing a conclusion.

I can't just listen to the radio to be told what to think, I have to be responsible.
.

You should really consider getting into politics. I suspect you could make a lot more money there than as a financial adviser. You could model your campaign after those of Bill Clinton. You know? Believe in nothing and never espouse a strong conviction about anything.

Well, as I've said, I'm more than happy to provide my specific ideas and plans on any topic you'd like, from income taxes to health care to immigration, you name it.

Just start a thread and invite me, I'll be there.

Go ahead, looking forward to it.

Or you can just keep buzzing around, making vague insults. Whatever.
.

You have been here a LONG time...28k posts...and other than your comments on political correctness, you have successfully straddled the fence expertly.

Ready whenever you are.

I think you guys would rather just complain.
.

 

[Theowl32]

Oh damn...stop. I am laughing too hard. Please stop.

You really missed your calling. You should be a liberal politician.

I'm just a financial advisor, and I have to carefully examine all facets of a situation before I make a move.

I don't have the luxury of just spitting out shallow slogans like some drunk guy at a bar saying "If I were King, I'd....."

I know that there are always multiple sides to a ry, and I'm humble enough to realize I don't know it all. So I have to carefully and patiently collect, digest, and analyze information before drawing a conclusion.

I can't just listen to the radio to be told what to think, I have to be responsible.
.

You should really consider getting into politics. I suspect you could make a lot more money there than as a financial adviser. You could model your campaign after those of Bill Clinton. You know? Believe in nothing and never espouse a strong conviction about anything.

Well, as I've said, I'm more than happy to provide my specific ideas and plans on any topic you'd like, from income taxes to health care to immigration, you name it.

Just start a thread and invite me, I'll be there.

Go ahead, looking forward to it.

Or you can just keep buzzing around, making vague insults. Whatever.
.

Why don't you start your own thread about each issue. Tell us what you want and how you like to be paid for etc. Please provide all logistics if it is called for and it is almost always called for.

Thanks.

Why? You're so interested in my opinion, they're all over the place. Nice and specific.

This isn't my problem.
.

Hillary is the answer to those? You think single payer is the way to go?

That is where it is going. Just an example.

 

[Theowl32]

Oh damn...stop. I am laughing too hard. Please stop.

You really missed your calling. You should be a liberal politician.

I'm just a financial advisor, and I have to carefully examine all facets of a situation before I make a move.

I don't have the luxury of just spitting out shallow slogans like some drunk guy at a bar saying "If I were King, I'd....."

I know that there are always multiple sides to a ry, and I'm humble enough to realize I don't know it all. So I have to carefully and patiently collect, digest, and analyze information before drawing a conclusion.

I can't just listen to the radio to be told what to think, I have to be responsible.
.

You should really consider getting into politics. I suspect you could make a lot more money there than as a financial adviser. You could model your campaign after those of Bill Clinton. You know? Believe in nothing and never espouse a strong conviction about anything.

Well, as I've said, I'm more than happy to provide my specific ideas and plans on any topic you'd like, from income taxes to health care to immigration, you name it.

Just start a thread and invite me, I'll be there.

Go ahead, looking forward to it.

Or you can just keep buzzing around, making vague insults. Whatever.
.

You have been here a LONG time...28k posts...and other than your comments on political correctness, you have successfully straddled the fence expertly.

Ready whenever you are.

I think you guys would rather just complain.
.

This is the political board. What, exactly do you expect on a political debate board?

 

[Mac1958]

I'm just a financial advisor, and I have to carefully examine all facets of a situation before I make a move.

I don't have the luxury of just spitting out shallow slogans like some drunk guy at a bar saying "If I were King, I'd....."

I know that there are always multiple sides to a ry, and I'm humble enough to realize I don't know it all. So I have to carefully and patiently collect, digest, and analyze information before drawing a conclusion.

I can't just listen to the radio to be told what to think, I have to be responsible.
.

You should really consider getting into politics. I suspect you could make a lot more money there than as a financial adviser. You could model your campaign after those of Bill Clinton. You know? Believe in nothing and never espouse a strong conviction about anything.

Well, as I've said, I'm more than happy to provide my specific ideas and plans on any topic you'd like, from income taxes to health care to immigration, you name it.

Just start a thread and invite me, I'll be there.

Go ahead, looking forward to it.

Or you can just keep buzzing around, making vague insults. Whatever.
.

Why don't you start your own thread about each issue. Tell us what you want and how you like to be paid for etc. Please provide all logistics if it is called for and it is almost always called for.

Thanks.

Why? You're so interested in my opinion, they're all over the place. Nice and specific.

This isn't my problem.
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Hillary is the answer to those? You think single payer is the way to go?

That is where it is going. Just an example.

No, I don't think Single Payer is the way to go, and I've laid out a very specific plan many, many times.

Just start a thread and I'll be there.
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Hillary's? Cause all she has and all democrats ever have is the victimology strategy.

Name anything that she stands for that is not trying to placate any perceived victim.

From the minimum wage bullshit......AND poor poor little women who get sooooo mistreated by white male Christians.

Name one thing. Trump has actually brought a lot of issues to the forefront, which is then turned into racism by the left.

You are denying hillary lies? Really, I cannot tell.

What are your specific concerns. Humor me for a moment. Try NOT pretending you are above political extremes ONCE and tell me exactly what you want.

Blacks to have more things? What? Unfettered immigrant crossing the border? 100s of thousands of Syrian refugees coming in? You think they will all be "vetted" or is that done so conservatives would protest so they can set up their narrative how racist conservative America is?

What do you specifically want?

One can't ride the fence and appear above it all, if one clearly outlines their positions.

My side of the "fence" is laid out in my sig.

I made it as simple as I could.
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and that IS riding the fence.

I realize that's how partisans think. "If you're not this, you must be that".

Simple, binary, safe.

No problem.
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Is this statement considered partisan in your mind?

"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice... and moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue."

Since when has the Right done anything in the "defense of liberty"? Drumpf wants to muzzle the press...he's said so. He wants to jail his political opponent...he's said so. He wants to the government to ignore Freedom of Religion...he's said so.