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Thanks to obamacare we won't have to worry about that aspect of health care. It should save trillions of dollars by using preventive medicine instead of emergency facilities.Wow.
Yeah, I'm not following him either. I think it is avoidance.
I seem to recall a documentary or news story interviewing a private hospital where the financial manager made it clear that paying customer rates are higher to cover losses by uninsured patients. I also know that county hospitals do not tend to be trauma centers where major injuries are treated. That is expensive. Recovery happens at the county hospital or other care facility.
I love educating you obama trolls.
BS. All roberts had to say is "setting up a health care system is NOT a listed power of congress and hence the ACA is unconstitutional". Instead he took a bribe and ok'd it.
You are confused. Setting up a health care system was not up for debate by the SCOTUS. The issue brought to them through the federal court system was the whether or not the mandate/tax if you don't buy insurance is constitutional or not.
Just as we have a tax break that only applies to people who buy homes, another for people that spend money on education, ... this is a tax break so to speak for people who buy insurance.
IMO it sucks that government legislates behavior through taxation, but that is where we are at. Don't like it? You need to change the Constitution, or change the elected representatives.
The issue you bring up, that of setting up the health care system, that will be another thing the SCOTUS gets to look at, if they so desire, and if it gets through the federal court system. You'll note the exchanges are being run by the states. I've got a bad feeling that we are screwed.
Taxation that alters behavior is as American as apple pie. Some of the first laws passed under the Constitution were tax laws that changed behavior. All tax laws probably change behavior even those tax laws passed just for revenue.
How can the health of a nation's people not be a national interest?
We have a national system of government healthcare for veterans. Is that unconstitutional?
We have government doctors and nurses, etc., etc., in a government healthcare system in the military.
Is that unconstitutional?
The health of the nation is in the interest of the nation. Redistributing income isn't.
The military are our employ. Employers provide healthcare for their employees. It is our duty as employers to pay for injuries incurred by our employ while they are on duty.
Like it or not, every nation is responsible for its method of redistributing its income.
The health of the nation is in the interest of the nation. Redistributing income isn't.
The military are our employ. Employers provide healthcare for their employees. It is our duty as employers to pay for injuries incurred by our employ while they are on duty.
Like it or not, every nation is responsible for its method of redistributing its income.
Like it or not - this is one of the most ignorant statements ever made. No nation has the "responsibility" to redistribute wealth. You won't find that in a single nations constitution (unless of course they are communist/socialist/marxist).
But hey, when have Dumbocrats ever been knowledgable before opening their mouths and exposing their ignorance to the world?
Nowhere in the Constitution does it mention a federal interstate highway system, air traffic controls, a federal department to inspect food and drugs, the EPA, or a Department of Agriculture. Yet, we have all of this federal agencies.It's not there and that means they don't have it - the states do. Obamacare is obviously unconstitutional as is 99% of what the feds do. The states need to grow a pair and scream about this.
BS. All roberts had to say is "setting up a health care system is NOT a listed power of congress and hence the ACA is unconstitutional". Instead he took a bribe and ok'd it.
You are confused. Setting up a health care system was not up for debate by the SCOTUS. The issue brought to them through the federal court system was the whether or not the mandate/tax if you don't buy insurance is constitutional or not.
Just as we have a tax break that only applies to people who buy homes, another for people that spend money on education, ... this is a tax break so to speak for people who buy insurance.
IMO it sucks that government legislates behavior through taxation, but that is where we are at. Don't like it? You need to change the Constitution, or change the elected representatives.
The issue you bring up, that of setting up the health care system, that will be another thing the SCOTUS gets to look at, if they so desire, and if it gets through the federal court system. You'll note the exchanges are being run by the states. I've got a bad feeling that we are screwed.
Taxation that alters behavior is as American as apple pie. Some of the first laws passed under the Constitution were tax laws that changed behavior. All tax laws probably change behavior even those tax laws passed just for revenue.
Changing our republic to a simple majority democracy is what caused this.You are confused. Setting up a health care system was not up for debate by the SCOTUS. The issue brought to them through the federal court system was the whether or not the mandate/tax if you don't buy insurance is constitutional or not.
Just as we have a tax break that only applies to people who buy homes, another for people that spend money on education, ... this is a tax break so to speak for people who buy insurance.
IMO it sucks that government legislates behavior through taxation, but that is where we are at. Don't like it? You need to change the Constitution, or change the elected representatives.
The issue you bring up, that of setting up the health care system, that will be another thing the SCOTUS gets to look at, if they so desire, and if it gets through the federal court system. You'll note the exchanges are being run by the states. I've got a bad feeling that we are screwed.
Taxation that alters behavior is as American as apple pie. Some of the first laws passed under the Constitution were tax laws that changed behavior. All tax laws probably change behavior even those tax laws passed just for revenue.
This is primary means of implementing corporatist government. We won't get our democracy back until we end it.
You are confused. Setting up a health care system was not up for debate by the SCOTUS. The issue brought to them through the federal court system was the whether or not the mandate/tax if you don't buy insurance is constitutional or not.
Just as we have a tax break that only applies to people who buy homes, another for people that spend money on education, ... this is a tax break so to speak for people who buy insurance.
IMO it sucks that government legislates behavior through taxation, but that is where we are at. Don't like it? You need to change the Constitution, or change the elected representatives.
The issue you bring up, that of setting up the health care system, that will be another thing the SCOTUS gets to look at, if they so desire, and if it gets through the federal court system. You'll note the exchanges are being run by the states. I've got a bad feeling that we are screwed.
Taxation that alters behavior is as American as apple pie. Some of the first laws passed under the Constitution were tax laws that changed behavior. All tax laws probably change behavior even those tax laws passed just for revenue.
Murder, rape, and the mafia are also as "American as apple pie". Doesn't make a one of them right. Doesn't mean we shouldn't work around the clock to end them.
But thanks for being honest enough to admit that this is in fact not a tax as taxes are for running the governments 18 responsibilities spelled out in the U.S. Constitution - not for socialist pet projects.
Taxation that alters behavior is as American as apple pie. Some of the first laws passed under the Constitution were tax laws that changed behavior. All tax laws probably change behavior even those tax laws passed just for revenue.
Murder, rape, and the mafia are also as "American as apple pie". Doesn't make a one of them right. Doesn't mean we shouldn't work around the clock to end them.
But thanks for being honest enough to admit that this is in fact not a tax as taxes are for running the governments 18 responsibilities spelled out in the U.S. Constitution - not for socialist pet projects.
Taxes are not just for running the government, but generally for raising revenue and in that process a lot of behavior is changed. But we also have taxes that were intended to change behavior. America has even amended the constitution to change behavior.
I have no idea why you mention murder etc.
Taxes are not just for running the government
I can't say the same for the other judges, but Roberts was put between a rock and a hard place.
BS. All roberts had to say is "setting up a health care system is NOT a listed power of congress and hence the ACA is unconstitutional". Instead he took a bribe and ok'd it.
I can't say the same for the other judges, but Roberts was put between a rock and a hard place.
BS. All roberts had to say is "setting up a health care system is NOT a listed power of congress and hence the ACA is unconstitutional". Instead he took a bribe and ok'd it.
You forgot to cite your evidence Roberts was bribed.
And the Constitution affords Congress powers both enumerated and implied, there is no finite list.
Where does the constitution give Congress power to set up national health care?
Where does the constitution give Congress power to set up national health care?
I have no idea if anyone has asked the obvious question in these 27 pages so I'll throw it out: where does the Affordable Care Act give anyone the power to set up "national health care"?
The health of the nation is in the interest of the nation. Redistributing income isn't.
The military are our employ. Employers provide healthcare for their employees. It is our duty as employers to pay for injuries incurred by our employ while they are on duty.
Like it or not, every nation is responsible for its method of redistributing its income.
Like it or not - this is one of the most ignorant statements ever made. No nation has the "responsibility" to redistribute wealth. You won't find that in a single nations constitution (unless of course they are communist/socialist/marxist).
But hey, when have Dumbocrats ever been knowledgable before opening their mouths and exposing their ignorance to the world?
Taxes are not just for running the government
tax
taks/
noun
plural noun: taxes
1. a compulsory contribution to state revenue, levied by the government on workers' income and business profits or added to the cost of some goods, services, and transactions.
I'm absolutely speechless.....
I can't say the same for the other judges, but Roberts was put between a rock and a hard place.
BS. All roberts had to say is "setting up a health care system is NOT a listed power of congress and hence the ACA is unconstitutional". Instead he took a bribe and ok'd it.
You forgot to cite your evidence Roberts was bribed.
And the Constitution affords Congress powers both enumerated and implied, there is no finite list.
Like it or not, every nation is responsible for its method of redistributing its income.
Like it or not - this is one of the most ignorant statements ever made. No nation has the "responsibility" to redistribute wealth. You won't find that in a single nations constitution (unless of course they are communist/socialist/marxist).
But hey, when have Dumbocrats ever been knowledgable before opening their mouths and exposing their ignorance to the world?
Every nation has a method of redistributing its wealth, and for that method the nation is responsible. Can you name a nation that does not?
Taxes are necessary for our warriors who smite our enemies.Murder, rape, and the mafia are also as "American as apple pie". Doesn't make a one of them right. Doesn't mean we shouldn't work around the clock to end them.
But thanks for being honest enough to admit that this is in fact not a tax as taxes are for running the governments 18 responsibilities spelled out in the U.S. Constitution - not for socialist pet projects.
Taxes are not just for running the government, but generally for raising revenue and in that process a lot of behavior is changed. But we also have taxes that were intended to change behavior. America has even amended the constitution to change behavior.
I have no idea why you mention murder etc.
I explained why I mentioned murder. Read it again. If you're still "confused" over something so clear and basic, that means you're a Democrat.
