Which is more evil: government or corporate America

[Billy000]

I think its a scary thought to have corporate America to have unchecked power. People on the top tier there would sacrifice anything they can for the sake of profit. Can you imagine the damage they could do to society if they weren't limited by any government Legislation? That's why we need the EPA, FDA, TSA, FAA etc.

The government can do some damage with misguided legislation, but the entity itself still serves a greater purpose, which is law and order.

 

[auditor0007]

I wouldn't classify either as being inherently evil. Are there bad people out there? Of course. But to say they are evil is a bit silly. I'm sure though, that you'll find many on the left who think corporate America is evil, and just as many on the right who swear government is evil, like it's an entity of it's own with it's own heartbeat, and forgetting that it is created by the people and for the people.

 

[LoudMcCloud]

They have merged and are as one!

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Assigning terms like "evil" in situations like this is a little ridiculous.

Neither the government nor corporations are "evil".

 

[JakeStarkey]

Centralized authority, government or business, can be dangerous to individual aspirations, yes.

 

[Billy000]

Assigning terms like "evil" in situations like this is a little ridiculous.

Neither the government nor corporations are "evil".

You're taking the question too seriously. Evil is a tongue in cheek adjective for corruption. Basically I am asking which is more corrupt. No need to over think my wording.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Assigning terms like "evil" in situations like this is a little ridiculous.

Neither the government nor corporations are "evil".

You're taking the question too seriously. Evil is a tongue in cheek adjective for corruption. Basically I am asking which is more corrupt. No need to over think my wording.

Both corporations and government are nothing more than groups of people - all of them working for both their own self-interest, as well as the interests of the group as a whole.

There is nothing inherent in either government or corporations that causes them to be corrupt other than the fact that they're made of people.

A government is as bad as the people in it, and a corporation is as bad as the people in it. There's no overall distinction between the two.

 

[Billy000]

Assigning terms like "evil" in situations like this is a little ridiculous.

Neither the government nor corporations are "evil".

You're taking the question too seriously. Evil is a tongue in cheek adjective for corruption. Basically I am asking which is more corrupt. No need to over think my wording.

Both corporations and government are nothing more than groups of people - all of them working for both their own self-interest, as well as the interests of the group as a whole.

There is nothing inherent in either government or corporations that causes them to be corrupt other than the fact that they're made of people.

A government is as bad as the people in it, and a corporation is as bad as the people in it. There's no overall distinction between the two.

I am not saying they are inherently evil. Yeah, you're right. It's about the people in it. What I am asking is specifically the US government and Corporate America as they are now.

You can make the distinction because they serve different purposes.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

You're taking the question too seriously. Evil is a tongue in cheek adjective for corruption. Basically I am asking which is more corrupt. No need to over think my wording.

Both corporations and government are nothing more than groups of people - all of them working for both their own self-interest, as well as the interests of the group as a whole.

There is nothing inherent in either government or corporations that causes them to be corrupt other than the fact that they're made of people.

A government is as bad as the people in it, and a corporation is as bad as the people in it. There's no overall distinction between the two.

I am not saying they are inherently evil. Yeah, you're right. It's about the people in it. What I am asking is specifically the US government and Corporate America as they are now.

You can make the distinction because they serve different purposes.

They do serve different purposes, but I don't think that either "purpose" is any more inherently corrupt either.

People on both sides of political spectrum have a tendency to refer to both the entire governmental system of this country and the whole of US business as single entities.

"The government" is made up of millions of people, working for thousands of different agencies - each with their own goals and objectives. Just like each "corporation" is working towards their own interests - not the interests of "Corporations" in general.

 

[Mr. H.]

Corporate America has "unchecked power".
I think not.

Obama on the other hand...

 

[Billy000]

Both corporations and government are nothing more than groups of people - all of them working for both their own self-interest, as well as the interests of the group as a whole.

There is nothing inherent in either government or corporations that causes them to be corrupt other than the fact that they're made of people.

A government is as bad as the people in it, and a corporation is as bad as the people in it. There's no overall distinction between the two.

I am not saying they are inherently evil. Yeah, you're right. It's about the people in it. What I am asking is specifically the US government and Corporate America as they are now.

You can make the distinction because they serve different purposes.

They do serve different purposes, but I don't think that either "purpose" is any more inherently corrupt either.

People on both sides of political spectrum have a tendency to refer to both the entire governmental system of this country and the whole of US business as single entities.

"The government" is made up of millions of people, working for thousands of different agencies - each with their own goals and objectives. Just like each "corporation" is working towards their own interests - not the interests of "Corporations" in general.

Again, I never said they are inherently evil, but i do think you can make the argument that a free market system can breed greed and corruption. And every government has a level of corruption within it.

I think you can simplify them as single entities. Of course not everyone within either one are corrupt individuals, but I think the level of corruption in both is substantial enough to have major influence over society.

 

[Billy000]

Corporate America has "unchecked power".
I think not.

Obama on the other hand...

I never said corporate America had unchecked power. I'm saying its a scary thought it did. And if course Obama has checked power. We have three branches of government with checks and balances.

 

[Mr. H.]

Don't forget the fourth branch, executive order.

 

[martybegan]

You're taking the question too seriously. Evil is a tongue in cheek adjective for corruption. Basically I am asking which is more corrupt. No need to over think my wording.

Both corporations and government are nothing more than groups of people - all of them working for both their own self-interest, as well as the interests of the group as a whole.

There is nothing inherent in either government or corporations that causes them to be corrupt other than the fact that they're made of people.

A government is as bad as the people in it, and a corporation is as bad as the people in it. There's no overall distinction between the two.

I am not saying they are inherently evil. Yeah, you're right. It's about the people in it. What I am asking is specifically the US government and Corporate America as they are now.

You can make the distinction because they serve different purposes.

Of the two government is far more dangerous in the wrong hands. Government has control over co-ercive elements (military/police), negotiative elements (courts) and regulatory elements (state/federal regs). The federal nature of our system does offer some protection, but our current trend of delegating everything to the federal level removes alot of this protection.

If people really really didnt like a corporation, they can stop using them, be it a service or a product. It may sting for a while, (having to go an extra few miles to a gas station, the horror!!) but with enough effort any corporation could be injured by a boycott.

A hostile entrenched government however, is much harder to get rid of through peaceful means.

 

[Mac1958]

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Ugh. Neither is "evil". Each have their own strengths and weaknesses.

Seems to me the key is finding proper equilibrium between the two -- effectively and efficiently regulated "free" markets, a government bureaucracy that is not too wasteful and that does not lead to dependence, and a safety net that addresses obvious needs.

Problem is we've devolved into simplistic, all-or-nothing narcissism from proponents of both "sides", and the process of finding a proper equilibrium would require significantly more civil, thoughtful and mature discourse than we are currently capable of providing.

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[editec]

Which is more evil: government or corporate America

You cannot be this stupid.

 

[Billy000]

Which is more evil: government or corporate America

You cannot be this stupid.

Are you below having a mature, intelligent conversation? Are you so insecure that you have to call me stupid for no good reason to feel better about yourself? Seriously its pathetic. It's also cowardly, because I am willing to bet you wouldn't say this crap to my face. The internet is so convenient isn't it?

 

[KnobbyWalsh]

I think its a scary thought to have corporate America to have unchecked power. People on the top tier there would sacrifice anything they can for the sake of profit. Can you imagine the damage they could do to society if they weren't limited by any government Legislation? That's why we need the EPA, FDA, TSA, FAA etc.

The government can do some damage with misguided legislation, but the entity itself still serves a greater purpose, which is law and order.

They're equally corrupt. Evil? Well, I'm reading a book on the new breed of billionaire, the 1% and the .01% worldwide. I actually have earned a level of respect for them in that almost all new billionaires are "working billionaires," not people who inherited a shitload of money, but started from zero, many of them (some were born of privilege).

It's too complex and it's a story still being written in this era of revolution economically. One thing that DOES piss me off is how they buy our politicians to do their bidding to rig the laws in their favor.

 

[KnobbyWalsh]

Which is more evil: government or corporate America

You cannot be this stupid.

Christ, the guy just asked a question. He didn't ask to date your sister.

 

[Billy000]

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Ugh. Neither is "evil". Each have their own strengths and weaknesses.

Seems to me the key is finding proper equilibrium between the two -- effectively and efficiently regulated "free" markets, a government bureaucracy that is not too wasteful and that does not lead to dependence, and a safety net that addresses obvious needs.

Problem is we've devolved into simplistic, all-or-nothing narcissism from proponents of both "sides", and the process of finding a proper equilibrium would require significantly more civil, thoughtful and mature discourse than we are currently capable of providing.

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I totally agree.