Which Party Defends The Constitutions?

[PoliticalChic]

Liberals wrote the Constitution

Trump pisses on it

It is about freedoms. Not any form of system we have. No Federal taxation is part of it.

Perhaps ask a black person if you think you need more freedom!!

Are you claiming that blacks have less freedom than anyone else?

Let's see you document that.



Unless, of course, your defense is that you are a government school grad.....then, carry on.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Conservatives hate the Constitution, its case law, and the rule of law.

Republican lawmakers incessantly propose and enact measures in violation of the right to privacy, the right to vote, and the right to due process of the law – measures already invalidated by the Supreme Court.

Rightists continue to propagate the lie that the Second Amendment is ‘unlimited’ and that all firearm regulatory measures are ‘un-Constitutional' – when in fact the Supreme Court has held the opposite to be true.

Conservatives have nothing but contempt for the most fundamental tenets of the Constitution and the judicial process: the supremacy of Federal laws, the supremacy of the Federal courts, and the supremacy of citizens’ rights regardless a citizen’s jurisdiction of residence.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Conservatives hate the Constitution, its case law, and the rule of law.

Republican lawmakers incessantly propose and enact measures in violation of the right to privacy, the right to vote, and the right to due process of the law – measures already invalidated by the Supreme Court.

Rightists continue to propagate the lie that the Second Amendment is ‘unlimited’ and that all firearm regulatory measures are ‘un-Constitutional' – when in fact the Supreme Court has held the opposite to be true.

Conservatives have nothing but contempt for the most fundamental tenets of the Constitution and the judicial process: the supremacy of Federal laws, the supremacy of the Federal courts, and the supremacy of citizens’ rights regardless a citizen’s jurisdiction of residence.

You're a moron.

The OP got so deeply under your scales that you post this...".Conservatives hate the Constitution,"....


....when the OP clearly proves the very opposite.



This:

The First Amendment protects the free exercise of religious beliefs. Churches have the First Amendment right to ensure that employees teaching children in church schools are espousing church theology and that the public portion of their lives that manifest in the classroom are in keeping with that theology. That is the essence of religious liberty.I

Assistant Attorney General Eric Dreiband's team will personally appear to defend the Archdiocese of Indianapolis against an employment discrimination lawsuit brought by a teacher who was fired for openly flouting Catholic Church teaching on marriage.

 

[rightwinger]

Liberals wrote the Constitution

Trump pisses on it

Back in the day when liberal meant today's conservative.

Statists didn't write the Constitution. Today's liberals are STATISTS. The Founders were the opposite of you

Liberal has never meant Conservative

 

[rightwinger]

Liberals wrote the Constitution

Trump pisses on it

It is about freedoms. Not any form of system we have. No Federal taxation is part of it.

Perhaps ask a black person if you think you need more freedom!!

Are you claiming that blacks have less freedom than anyone else?

Let's see you document that.



Unless, of course, your defense is that you are a government school grad.....then, carry on.

Ask them when they are driving in a white neighborhood late at night

 

[PoliticalChic]

Conservatives hate the Constitution, its case law, and the rule of law.

Republican lawmakers incessantly propose and enact measures in violation of the right to privacy, the right to vote, and the right to due process of the law – measures already invalidated by the Supreme Court.

Rightists continue to propagate the lie that the Second Amendment is ‘unlimited’ and that all firearm regulatory measures are ‘un-Constitutional' – when in fact the Supreme Court has held the opposite to be true.

Conservatives have nothing but contempt for the most fundamental tenets of the Constitution and the judicial process: the supremacy of Federal laws, the supremacy of the Federal courts, and the supremacy of citizens’ rights regardless a citizen’s jurisdiction of residence.

".... its case law, ..."

As the Constitution is the law of the land, case law is simply opinions of windbags.....like you.

It is the only law governing America and Americans.



Here's your lesson...take notes:

1. Progressives have altered the role of the Supreme Court in a dramatic way: no longer should its role be to apply law as written. Instead, it was the application of German social science to American law.

... law must leave "conceptions" and open itself up to social realities of the modern world.”…[endng]the backwardness of law in meeting social ends,…”http://www.drbilllong.com/Jurisprudence/Pound.html


2. [Roscoe Pound] was perhaps the chief U.S. advocate of sociological jurisprudence, which holds that statutes and court decisions are affected by social conditions; his ideas apparently influenced the New Deal programs of Pres. Franklin D. Roosevelt.Answers - The Most Trusted Place for Answering Life's Questions



3. Instead of following the Constitution, 'social justice' is to be pursued from the bench by following the dictates of unelected judges.....caselaw.

"Christopher Columbus Langdell ....Before Langdell's tenure, the study of law was a technical pursuit. Students were told what the law is. However, at Harvard Langdell applied the principles of pragmatism to the study of law. Now, as a result of this innovation, lawyers are taught the law through a dialectical process of inference called the case method. The case method has been the primary method of pedagogy at American law schools ever since. The case method has since been adopted and improved upon by schools in other disciplines, such as business, public policy, and education. Students such as Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. would ensure that Langdell's innovation would not go unnoticed. Christopher Columbus Langdell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


There is no excuse for this corruption of jurisprudence except for a hatred of America.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Liberals wrote the Constitution

and now when it suits them they remind everyone that is was slave owners who wrote it

Trump pisses on it

relax, your second amendment rights are safe, he will see to it. And the electoral college as well

 

[mudwhistle]

1.Seems to be a strange question, as the Constitution is the ‘law of the land,’ meaning that all Americans live under the rules set forth by that document.

Shouldn’t the answer be…’both parties.’ If only that were the case.



2. As documented in a number of threads, there is no Far Right in America, but certainly is a Far Left, radicals who have taken over one of the parties….the Democrats. A reminder: To be "far," one's positions must be radical relative to that center. American traditions, values, and history represent that center. The Right, represented by the Republican Party, has no radial positions not consistent with America’s heritage…..but the Democrats sure do!

3. Subservient to the master they serve, the Democrat Party is now running on full-blown anti-white racism, socialism, infanticide, opposition to free speech, substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry, and anti-Semitism… the knuckle-dragging, atavistic pagan party.

Talk about “Far”!!!!



4. A glaring example, this week, is this Republican administration standing behind Americans and the first amendment.

“Unlike Eric Holder’s Justice Department, the Trump administration is on the forefront of defending First Amendment religious liberty. This Tuesday, Justice Department Civil Rights Division lawyers will be appearing in an Indiana state court to defend the religious freedom of Catholic schools.

The First Amendment protects the free exercise of religious beliefs. Churches have the First Amendment right to ensure that employees teaching children in church schools are espousing church theology and that the public portion of their lives that manifest in the classroom are in keeping with that theology. That is the essence of religious liberty.

Assistant Attorney General Eric Dreiband's team will personally appear to defend the Archdiocese of Indianapolis against an employment discrimination lawsuit brought by a teacher who was fired for openly flouting Catholic Church teaching on marriage.


Joshua Payne-Elliott, the former teacher at Cathedral High School and plaintiff, is suing because he was terminated from his employment as a high school teacher after openly defying church teaching on marriage and living as a married couple with another man.

When Payne-Elliott refused to modify his open opposition to Catholic teaching, he was fired from his teaching job at Cathedral High School in Indianapolis.”
Religious Liberty: Trump DOJ Defends Catholic School in State Court


They’ve got my “Amen!”

Everyone knows that the Democraps are defending the Constitution by trying to go around it or change it's purpose at every turn.
They're just trying to show us how racist the Constitution is.

 

[22lcidw]

Liberals wrote the Constitution

Trump pisses on it

It is about freedoms. Not any form of system we have. No Federal taxation is part of it.

I'd be interested in you 'fleshing out' that post a bit more.

The constitution is a document on freedoms. It has no perfection. For you were not going to get a document at that time and maybe even now without a flaw. It tells us of no parties. We have two major ones now. It tells us of no system in our government. Like capitalism, socialism communism. It tells us about taxes and what money is. Money is backed by gold and silver. Gold and silver backed currencies mean a slower way to wars. In fact it definitely means the congress has to vote on it and maybe even impose a temporary fiat currency. Gold and silver backed currencies are a slower growth then fiat currencies. But fiat currencies are a much quicker drop. There was no federal income tax until 1913. In 1913 The Federal Reserve Act, the Federal Income Tax and the 17th amendment I believe to elect Federal Senators directly by the people instead of state legislatures occurred. The stewards of globalism were involved. The reason the United States started was over the tea tax imposed by England. We had the whiskey rebellion against our own government when that was imposed. State, local, regional and city taxes are more valid. There has been many positives with a fiat currency. But we have had many negatives. A fiat currency is born and then it starts to die. Look how fast things are destabilizing now. Unwinding quickly until some sense returns. A lot of debt is around the world. Debt that goes back a long time. It may not last. And hopefully it does not. But this is dangerous.

 

[Penelope]

Liberals wrote the Constitution

Trump pisses on it

It is about freedoms. Not any form of system we have. No Federal taxation is part of it.

Perhaps ask a black person if you think you need more freedom!!

Are you claiming that blacks have less freedom than anyone else?

Let's see you document that.



Unless, of course, your defense is that you are a government school grad.....then, carry on.

Yes I am.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Conservatives hate the Constitution, its case law, and the rule of law.

Republican lawmakers incessantly propose and enact measures in violation of the right to privacy, the right to vote, and the right to due process of the law – measures already invalidated by the Supreme Court.

Rightists continue to propagate the lie that the Second Amendment is ‘unlimited’ and that all firearm regulatory measures are ‘un-Constitutional' – when in fact the Supreme Court has held the opposite to be true.

Conservatives have nothing but contempt for the most fundamental tenets of the Constitution and the judicial process: the supremacy of Federal laws, the supremacy of the Federal courts, and the supremacy of citizens’ rights regardless a citizen’s jurisdiction of residence.

What gibberish.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Leftists, y'all gone crazy.

 

[Ringtone]

Liberals wrote the Constitution

Trump pisses on it

Back in the day when liberal meant today's conservative.

Statists didn't write the Constitution. Today's liberals are STATISTS. The Founders were the opposite of you

Precisely! The Founders of America and the Fathers of the Constitution were classical liberals, and American conservatives and libertarians are the classical liberals of today. rightwinger and his ilk are statist swine. This is why I never refer to them as liberals, but as leftists. Classical liberals celebrate and defend fundamental rights of individual liberty; leftists go on about the civil rights invented and imposed by the state--the stuff of collectivist oppression and conformity.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Liberals wrote the Constitution

Trump pisses on it

It is about freedoms. Not any form of system we have. No Federal taxation is part of it.

I'd be interested in you 'fleshing out' that post a bit more.

The constitution is a document on freedoms. It has no perfection. For you were not going to get a document at that time and maybe even now without a flaw. It tells us of no parties. We have two major ones now. It tells us of no system in our government. Like capitalism, socialism communism. It tells us about taxes and what money is. Money is backed by gold and silver. Gold and silver backed currencies mean a slower way to wars. In fact it definitely means the congress has to vote on it and maybe even impose a temporary fiat currency. Gold and silver backed currencies are a slower growth then fiat currencies. But fiat currencies are a much quicker drop. There was no federal income tax until 1913. In 1913 The Federal Reserve Act, the Federal Income Tax and the 17th amendment I believe to elect Federal Senators directly by the people instead of state legislatures occurred. The stewards of globalism were involved. The reason the United States started was over the tea tax imposed by England. We had the whiskey rebellion against our own government when that was imposed. State, local, regional and city taxes are more valid. There has been many positives with a fiat currency. But we have had many negatives. A fiat currency is born and then it starts to die. Look how fast things are destabilizing now. Unwinding quickly until some sense returns. A lot of debt is around the world. Debt that goes back a long time. It may not last. And hopefully it does not. But this is dangerous.

th11
I see that post....and thank you for it....going in two different directions.

"The constitution is a document on freedoms."

First, the purpose of the Constitution...
The premise of the Founders was that liberty pre-exists governments, and said governments are legitimate only when ‘instituted’ to ‘secure’ natural rights.

They did their best to produce an instruction manual that followed that view.
These include enumerated and the largely unenumerated rights whose existence and importance are affirmed by the Ninth Amendment: “The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.”



Now....taxes: they knew that this was a 'weapon' that could be used by those not as enamored with citizen's rights.
They did their best to keep them few and uncommon.
The fly in the ointment was the courts, and judges.

Through the early 20th century, taxes tended to be low. And higher taxes designed to pay war debts would be paid down quickly and temporary taxes eliminated.

In the 19th century, German ideas, progressive ideas, infected academia and the courts...

1. 1. Pollock v. Farmers' Loan & Trust Company, 157 U.S. 429 (1895), aff'd on reh'g, 158 U.S. 601 (1895), with a ruling of 5–4, was a landmark case in which the Supreme Court of the United States ruled that the unapportioned income taxes on interest, dividends and rents imposed by the Income Tax Act of 1894 were, in effect, direct taxes, and were unconstitutional because they violated the provision that direct taxes be apportioned. Pollock v. Farmers' Loan & Trust Co. - Wikipedia.
   2. Interesting decision, since the same principles had been upheld vis-à-vis the 1861 Revenue Act…. Springer v. United States, 102 U.S. 586 (1881),[1] was a case in which the United States Supreme Court upheld the Federal income tax imposed under the Revenue Act of 1864. Springer v. United States - Wikipedia
2. The Progressives were horrified! They had been focused on forcing the “money class” to pay “in proportion to their ability to pay…’ which, essentially was the first half of “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.” From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs - Wikipedia
   1. The Progressives launched a campaign designed to reverse this decision, and that culminated with the ratification of the 16th Amendment, in 1913.

"Money is backed by gold and silver."
Unfortunately, it isn't. We have fiat currency, and lots of debt as a result.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Liberals wrote the Constitution

Trump pisses on it

It is about freedoms. Not any form of system we have. No Federal taxation is part of it.

Perhaps ask a black person if you think you need more freedom!!

Are you claiming that blacks have less freedom than anyone else?

Let's see you document that.



Unless, of course, your defense is that you are a government school grad.....then, carry on.

Yes I am.

No wonder you are an educational and intellectual 'black hole.'

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

1.Seems to be a strange question, as the Constitution is the ‘law of the land,’ meaning that all Americans live under the rules set forth by that document.

Shouldn’t the answer be…’both parties.’ If only that were the case.



2. As documented in a number of threads, there is no Far Right in America, but certainly is a Far Left, radicals who have taken over one of the parties….the Democrats. A reminder: To be "far," one's positions must be radical relative to that center. American traditions, values, and history represent that center. The Right, represented by the Republican Party, has no radial positions not consistent with America’s heritage…..but the Democrats sure do!

3. Subservient to the master they serve, the Democrat Party is now running on full-blown anti-white racism, socialism, infanticide, opposition to free speech, substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry, and anti-Semitism… the knuckle-dragging, atavistic pagan party.

Talk about “Far”!!!!



4. A glaring example, this week, is this Republican administration standing behind Americans and the first amendment.

“Unlike Eric Holder’s Justice Department, the Trump administration is on the forefront of defending First Amendment religious liberty. This Tuesday, Justice Department Civil Rights Division lawyers will be appearing in an Indiana state court to defend the religious freedom of Catholic schools.

The First Amendment protects the free exercise of religious beliefs. Churches have the First Amendment right to ensure that employees teaching children in church schools are espousing church theology and that the public portion of their lives that manifest in the classroom are in keeping with that theology. That is the essence of religious liberty.

Assistant Attorney General Eric Dreiband's team will personally appear to defend the Archdiocese of Indianapolis against an employment discrimination lawsuit brought by a teacher who was fired for openly flouting Catholic Church teaching on marriage.


Joshua Payne-Elliott, the former teacher at Cathedral High School and plaintiff, is suing because he was terminated from his employment as a high school teacher after openly defying church teaching on marriage and living as a married couple with another man.

When Payne-Elliott refused to modify his open opposition to Catholic teaching, he was fired from his teaching job at Cathedral High School in Indianapolis.”
Religious Liberty: Trump DOJ Defends Catholic School in State Court


They’ve got my “Amen!”

Neither of them. The constitution is a means to their personal goals and is subsequently twisted to suit that goal.

 

[PoliticalChic]

1.Seems to be a strange question, as the Constitution is the ‘law of the land,’ meaning that all Americans live under the rules set forth by that document.

Shouldn’t the answer be…’both parties.’ If only that were the case.



2. As documented in a number of threads, there is no Far Right in America, but certainly is a Far Left, radicals who have taken over one of the parties….the Democrats. A reminder: To be "far," one's positions must be radical relative to that center. American traditions, values, and history represent that center. The Right, represented by the Republican Party, has no radial positions not consistent with America’s heritage…..but the Democrats sure do!

3. Subservient to the master they serve, the Democrat Party is now running on full-blown anti-white racism, socialism, infanticide, opposition to free speech, substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry, and anti-Semitism… the knuckle-dragging, atavistic pagan party.

Talk about “Far”!!!!



4. A glaring example, this week, is this Republican administration standing behind Americans and the first amendment.

“Unlike Eric Holder’s Justice Department, the Trump administration is on the forefront of defending First Amendment religious liberty. This Tuesday, Justice Department Civil Rights Division lawyers will be appearing in an Indiana state court to defend the religious freedom of Catholic schools.

The First Amendment protects the free exercise of religious beliefs. Churches have the First Amendment right to ensure that employees teaching children in church schools are espousing church theology and that the public portion of their lives that manifest in the classroom are in keeping with that theology. That is the essence of religious liberty.

Assistant Attorney General Eric Dreiband's team will personally appear to defend the Archdiocese of Indianapolis against an employment discrimination lawsuit brought by a teacher who was fired for openly flouting Catholic Church teaching on marriage.


Joshua Payne-Elliott, the former teacher at Cathedral High School and plaintiff, is suing because he was terminated from his employment as a high school teacher after openly defying church teaching on marriage and living as a married couple with another man.

When Payne-Elliott refused to modify his open opposition to Catholic teaching, he was fired from his teaching job at Cathedral High School in Indianapolis.”
Religious Liberty: Trump DOJ Defends Catholic School in State Court


They’ve got my “Amen!”

Neither of them. The constitution is a means to their personal goals and is subsequently twisted to suit that goal.

The aim of the OP is not as a shotgun...but as a sniper rifle, aimed at a specific constitutional right.

You may or may not be correct in your claim....that is for another time and another thread.

As for this specific one, I laid the groundwork for the premise, and documented it with the article.


This:

The First Amendment protects the free exercise of religious beliefs. Churches have the First Amendment right to ensure that employees teaching children in church schools are espousing church theology and that the public portion of their lives that manifest in the classroom are in keeping with that theology. That is the essence of religious liberty.I

Assistant Attorney General Eric Dreiband's team will personally appear to defend the Archdiocese of Indianapolis against an employment discrimination lawsuit brought by a teacher who was fired for openly flouting Catholic Church teaching on marriage.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Sad to say, it seems that too many have accepted, perhaps unconsciously, that bogus 'moral equivalence' that they teach in government school.

On every issue there are definite and specific differences....if one looks carefully at the issue.....important issues, such as the Constitution, religious freedom, states rights, abortion.....

.The problem for the Left is that the Right eats their lunch in debate.

Today, for instance, no one on the other side can mount an argument in favor of a church employee making clear his beliefs run counter to that of the church.



"Justice Department lawyers will argue that federal constitutional rights are directly implicated by any state employment discrimination lawsuit brought by a plaintiff who was fired for openly opposing and undermining church teaching to students.

The Trump administration is coming to the defense of the Archdiocese of Indianapolis in stark contrast to the approach toward religious liberty of the Obama administration.

Joshua Payne-Elliott, the former teacher at Cathedral High School and plaintiff, is suing because he was terminated from his employment as a high school teacher after openly defying church teaching on marriage and living as a married couple with another man.

When Payne-Elliott refused to modify his open opposition to Catholic teaching, he was fired from his teaching job at Cathedral High School in Indianapolis.

Unambiguous Catholic teaching says marriage is solely between one man and one woman."
Op. Cit.




The Republican administration is standing with the first amendment of the Constitution: the free exercise of religious beliefs.

Can anyone find such an example by the Democrats?