Which States Allow the Permitless Carry of Guns?

[OKTexas]

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Which States Allow the Permitless Carry of Guns?​

CARRY LAWS​

by Katharina Buchholz,
Aug 2, 2022

In January of 2023, Alabama will become the 25th state in the U.S. that isn't requiring any permits to carry a gun in public. In recent years, more and more states have enacted similar legislation. Indiana, together with Georgia and Ohio, did so this year. The change made headlines as it occurred just two weeks before a deadly mass shooting at a mall in an Indianapolis suburb, where a gunman killed three and wounded two more before being shot dead by a bystander who also carried a gun.


this is ridiculous!!
I don't blame Biden for getting mad.

A bad guy goes away because of a good guy with equal or greater firepower. Would you have preferred the good guy wasn't armed? This is what is call a defensive gun use (DGU), you know the thing you commies say never happens. You should be happy the good guy saved lives.

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[M14 Shooter]

Would you have preferred the good guy wasn't armed?

Yes. She would.

 

[marvin martian]

Some actually do!!! Still waiting for how a demofk will use their crystal ball to find the crazies who are normal today?

Like most DemoKKKrat policies, they want to use racial, ethnic, and political profiling to target anyone who thinks differently from them.

 

[jc456]

Like most DemoKKKrat policies, they want to use racial, ethnic, and political profiling to target anyone who thinks differently from them.

so they can think differently than me and be armed?

 

[Lesh]

Nothing you can do to stop it. Nothing.

So you propose a problem for which you say there is no solution.

Go away

 

[marvin martian]

So you propose a problem for which you say there is no solution.

Go away

The problem is Nazis like you who attack our civil rights. And there is a solution for that.

 

[pknopp]

So you propose a problem for which you say there is no solution.

Go away

You understand what I was saying.

 

[CowboyTed]

Ted, tell me how disarming legal gun owners will stop gun crime? Do you really think it is the legal owner committing these crimes?

I didn't say that...

But having no checks on gun ownership is basically allowing anyone to get a gun... This is neglect, this effectively allowing people who are mentally unstable to be armed..

People who want weak & non universal background checks are the ones responsible when mentally unstable person goes shooting a place up... You have to take responsibility because you want super fast access and next to no inconvenience a parent has to bury there child.
Innocent people suffer due to that inconsiderate approach...

Please stop with the Good guy with a gun crap, it has been highly debunked as not as effective as proper background checks ad responsible gun ownership... No where else in 1st world are you allowed to carry a gun on the streets with out a letter from your doctor saying you are not fucking nuts...

GOP just want to arm mentally ill... There neglect is now wilful...

 

[jc456]

But having no checks on gun ownership is basically allowing anyone to get a gun... This is neglect, this effectively allowing people who are mentally unstable to be armed..

that's indeed fake news and a fking half right there asshat. Chicago has the toughest gun laws in the country and guess what it leads in? pssst........gun deaths.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

I didn't say that...

But having no checks on gun ownership is basically allowing anyone to get a gun... This is neglect, this effectively allowing people who are mentally unstable to be armed..

People who want weak & non universal background checks are the ones responsible when mentally unstable person goes shooting a place up... You have to take responsibility because you want super fast access and next to no inconvenience a parent has to bury there child.
Innocent people suffer due to that inconsiderate approach...

Please stop with the Good guy with a gun crap, it has been highly debunked as not as effective as proper background checks ad responsible gun ownership... No where else in 1st world are you allowed to carry a gun on the streets with out a letter from your doctor saying you are not fucking nuts...

GOP just want to arm mentally ill... There neglect is now wilful...

there are already background checks retard, anyone buying from a licensed dealer must have one that is FEDERAL Law.

 

[jc456]

there are already background checks retard, anyone buying from a licensed dealer must have one that is FEDERAL Law.

Ted must live in the boonies where no information ever reaches him is the only thing I can come up with for his post.

 

[M14 Shooter]

I didn't say that...

But having no checks on gun ownership is basically allowing anyone to get a gun...

We have checks on gun ownership;.

This is neglect, this effectively allowing people who are mentally unstable to be armed..

it is illegal for the mentally ill to possess a firearm.

People who want weak & non universal background checks are the ones responsible when mentally unstable person goes shooting a place up...

This is a lie.

Please stop with the Good guy with a gun crap, it has been highly debunked as not as effective as proper background checks ad responsible gun ownership.

You cannot demonstrate this to be true.

. No where else in 1st world are you allowed to carry a gun on the streets with out a letter from your doctor saying you are not fucking nuts...

Sucks to be them.

 

[Rye Catcher]

Ted, tell me how disarming legal gun owners will stop gun crime? Do you really think it is the legal owner committing these crimes?

Gun Violence by State 2024

worldpopulationreview.com

Stats of the States - Firearm Mortality

www.cdc.gov

The Economic Cost of Gun Violence

In an average year, gun violence in America kills 40,000 people, wounds nearly twice as many, and costs our nation $557 billion.

everytownresearch.org

Does it matter when the person who uses a firearm to murder or wound another person has a criminal record or not?

 

[M14 Shooter]

Does it matter when the person who uses a firearm to murder or wound another person has a criminal record or not?

And thus...
You cannot tell us how disarming legal gun owners will stop gun crime.

 

[2aguy]

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Which States Allow the Permitless Carry of Guns?​

CARRY LAWS​

by Katharina Buchholz,
Aug 2, 2022

In January of 2023, Alabama will become the 25th state in the U.S. that isn't requiring any permits to carry a gun in public. In recent years, more and more states have enacted similar legislation. Indiana, together with Georgia and Ohio, did so this year. The change made headlines as it occurred just two weeks before a deadly mass shooting at a mall in an Indianapolis suburb, where a gunman killed three and wounded two more before being shot dead by a bystander who also carried a gun.


this is ridiculous!!
I don't blame Biden for getting mad.

Biden didn't get mad....he simply repeated what that nice lady Jill told him to say...you idiot.

To defend your stupid thoughts on this subject, you would have to explain how it is that as more Americans owned and carried guns for 27 years, the gun murder rate went down 49%, the gun crime rate went down 75%

Over 27 years, from 1993 to the year 2015, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 19.4 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2019 (in 2020 that number is 21.52 million)...guess what happened...

New Concealed Carry Report For 2020: 19.48 Million Permit Holders, 820,000 More Than Last Year despite many states shutting down issuing permits because of the Coronavirus - Crime Prevention Research Center


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
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Also.......gun murder rates haven't increased..................

The gun murder and gun suicide rates in the U.S. both remain below their peak levels. There were 6.2 gun murders per 100,000 people in 2020, below the rate of 7.2 recorded in 1974.


What the data says about gun deaths in the U.S.


This means that access to guns does not create gun crime........

Why do our democrat party controlled cities have gun crime problems?

What changed in 2015?

The democrat party did 3 things...

1) they began a war on the police that forced officers to stop pro active police work, allowing criminals to run wild. This attack on the police since 2015, has led to a lack of proactive police work, massive levels of police retirements and leaving the force....all across the country.

2) they began to release the most violent and dangerous gun offenders over and over again, not matter how many times they had been arrested for gun crimes

3) they used their brown shirts, blm/antifa to burn, loot and murder for 7 months in primarily black neighborhoods while the democrat party mayors ordered the police to stand down and not stop them......in order to hurt Trump during the election.

 

[2aguy]

Think about, they don't even have a permit. If a crazy gets a gun, you might get shot. There are more than 600 mass shooting since the beginning of the year.

There are not 600 mass public shootings...

What is it...the Borg Queen of the democrat party puts out that lie and you idiots all get the signal and start sqawking it over and over?

US mass shootings, 1982–2022: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Dating back to at least 2005, the FBI and leading criminologists essentially defined a mass shooting as a single attack in a public place in which four or more victims were killed. We adopted that baseline for fatalities when we gathered data in 2012 on three decades worth of cases.
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• Here is a description of the criteria we use:
  
  • The perpetrator took the lives of at least four people. A 2008 FBI report identifies an individual as a mass murderer—versus a spree killer or a serial killer—if he kills four or more people in a single incident (not including himself), typically in a single location. (*In 2013, the US government’s fatality baseline was revised down to three; our database reflects this change beginning from Jan. 2013, as detailed above.)
  • The killings were carried out by a lone shooter. (Except in the case of the Columbine massacre and the Westside Middle School killings, which involved two shooters.)
  • The shootings occurred in a public place. (Except in the case of a party on private property in Crandon, Wisconsin, and another in Seattle, where crowds of strangers had gathered, essentially constituting a public crowd.) Crimes primarily related to gang activity or armed robbery are not included, nor are mass killings that took place in private homes (often stemming from domestic violence).
  • Perpetrators who died or were wounded during the attack are not included in the victim tallies.
  • We included a handful of cases also known as “spree killings“—cases in which the killings occurred in more than one location, but still over a short period of time, that otherwise fit the above criteria.
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Our research focused on indiscriminate rampages in public places resulting in four or more victims killed by the attacker. We exclude shootings stemming from more conventionally motivated crimes such as armed robbery or gang violence. (Or in which the perpetrators have not been identified.) Other news outlets and researchers have since published larger tallies that include a wide range of gun crimes in which four or more people have been either wounded or killed. While those larger datasets of multiple-victim shootings are useful for studying the broader problem of gun violence, our investigation provides an in-depth look at a distinct phenomenon—from the firearms used and mental health factors to the growing copycat problem. Tracking mass shootings is complex; we believe ours is the most useful approach for studying this specific phenomenon.



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The actual number of mass shootings from Mother Jones......

Here you go...the number of mass public shootings according to Mother Jones...rabid, anti gun, left wing news source.....not the NRA...

The list below comes from the old definition of 4 killed to make a shooting a mass shooting...if you now go to the link there are more than listed below...but that is because Mother Jones changed the list from the time I first posted it...and changed to obama's new standard of only 3 dead to make a mass shooting...



US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

2021...6
2020....2

2019....10

2018... 12

2017: 11 ( 5 according to the old standard)

2016....6

2015....4 ( obama's new standard....7)

2014....2 (4)

2013....5

2012....7

2011....3

2010....1

2009....4

2008....3

2007....4

2006....3

2005...2

2004....1

2003...1

2002 not listed so more than likely 0

2001....1

2000....1

1999....5

1998...3

1997....2

1996....1

1995...1

1994...1

1993...4

1992...2

1991...3

1990...1

1989...2

1988....1

1987...1

1986...1

1985... not listed so probably 0

1984...2

1983...not listed so probably 0

1982...1

 

[2aguy]

Gun Violence by State 2024

worldpopulationreview.com

Stats of the States - Firearm Mortality

www.cdc.gov

The Economic Cost of Gun Violence

In an average year, gun violence in America kills 40,000 people, wounds nearly twice as many, and costs our nation $557 billion.

everytownresearch.org

Does it matter when the person who uses a firearm to murder or wound another person has a criminal record or not?

It does when the democrat party takes a convicted gun criminal, and releases them over and over again. These are the criminals doing 95% of all the gun crime and gun murder in this country, and the democrat party keeps releasing them no matter how many times they commit felonies with guns....

Why do the democrats keep releasing these criminals?

 

[2aguy]

I didn't say that...

But having no checks on gun ownership is basically allowing anyone to get a gun... This is neglect, this effectively allowing people who are mentally unstable to be armed..

People who want weak & non universal background checks are the ones responsible when mentally unstable person goes shooting a place up... You have to take responsibility because you want super fast access and next to no inconvenience a parent has to bury there child.
Innocent people suffer due to that inconsiderate approach...

Please stop with the Good guy with a gun crap, it has been highly debunked as not as effective as proper background checks ad responsible gun ownership... No where else in 1st world are you allowed to carry a gun on the streets with out a letter from your doctor saying you are not fucking nuts...

GOP just want to arm mentally ill... There neglect is now wilful...

No......the ones responsible for the gun murder in democrat party controlled cities.....where almost all of the gun murder actually happens....are the democrats....

In 2021 there were 6 mass public shootings......6 people out of over 350 million Americans.

Total killed?

43.

Nuts with guns are not the problem...

Deer kill 200 people a year.

Ladders kill 300 people a year.

Bathtubs kill 350 people a year...

Cars kill over 40,000 people a year.

Gun murder in the U.S. in 2019......from the FBI...

10,258

expanded-homicide-data-table-8.xls

So nuts with guns..... 43 killed in 2021....only 5 killed in 2020......

So of all the gun murder in the U.S.....nuts with guns are the tiniest number....while criminals in democrat party controlled cities kill each other in the 10 thousand level..........and the majority of the victims are criminals, not innocent people.....

 

[2aguy]

Gun Violence by State 2024

worldpopulationreview.com

Stats of the States - Firearm Mortality

www.cdc.gov

The Economic Cost of Gun Violence

In an average year, gun violence in America kills 40,000 people, wounds nearly twice as many, and costs our nation $557 billion.

everytownresearch.org

Does it matter when the person who uses a firearm to murder or wound another person has a criminal record or not?

The economic cost savings when AMericans use guns to stop violent criminals......

600 million guns in private hands......over 22.01 million Americans can carry guns legally in public for self defense.........



Concealed Carry Permit Holders Across the United States: 2022



American use those legal guns 1.1 million times a year to stop rapes, stabbings, beatings, robberies, and murders, as well as also stopping mass public shootings when they are allowed to have their legal guns with them...



Gun deaths...the truth....





Of the gun murder deaths....over 70-80% of the victims are not regular Americans....they are criminals...murdered by other criminals in primarily democrat party controlled cities....where the democrat party judges, prosecutors and politicians have released them over and over again no matter how many times they are arrested for felony, illegal gun possession and violent crimes with guns...that's on you and your political party...not normal gun owners.





Lives saved....based on research? By law abiding gun owners using guns to stop criminals?



Case Closed: Kleck Is Still Correct





that makes for at least 176,000 lives saved—



Money saved from people not being beaten, raped, murdered, robbed?.......





So figuring that the average DGU saves one half of a person’s life—as “gun violence” predominantly affects younger demographics—that gives us $3.465 million per half life.

Putting this all together, we find that the monetary benefit of guns (by way of DGUs) is roughly $1.02 trillion per year. That’s trillion. With a ‘T’.

I was going to go on and calculate the costs of incarceration ($50K/year) saved by people killing 1527 criminals annually, and then look at the lifetime cost to society of an average criminal (something in excess of $1 million). But all of that would be a drop in the bucket compared to the $1,000,000,000,000 ($1T) annual benefit of gun ownership.

When compared to the (inflation adjusted from 2002) $127.5 billion ‘cost’ of gun violence calculated by by our Ludwig-Cook buddies, guns save a little more than eight times what they “cost.”

Which, I might add, is completely irrelevant since “the freedom to own and carry the weapon of your choice is a natural, fundamental, and inalienable human, individual, civil, and Constitutional right — subject neither to the democratic process nor to arguments grounded in social utility.”

So even taking Motherboard’s own total and multiplying it by 100, the benefits to society of civilian gun ownership dwarf the associated costs.


Annual Defensive Gun Use Savings Dwarf Study's "Gun Violence" Costs - The Truth About Guns



A quick guide to the studies and the numbers.....the full lay out of what was studied by each study is in the links....

The name of the group doing the study, the year of the study, the number of defensive gun uses and if police and military defensive gun uses are included.....notice the bill clinton and obama defensive gun use research is highlighted.....

GunCite-Gun Control-How Often Are Guns Used in Self-Defense

GunCite Frequency of Defensive Gun Use in Previous Surveys

Field...1976....3,052,717 ( no cops, no military)

DMIa 1978...2,141,512 ( no cops, no military)

L.A. TIMES...1994...3,609,68 ( no cops, no military)

Kleck......1994...2.5 million ( no cops, no military)




2021 national firearm survey, Prof. William English, PhD. designed by Deborah Azrael of Harvard T. Chan School of public policy, and Mathew Miller, Northeastern university.......1.67 million defensive uses annually.

CDC...1996-1998... 1.1 million averaged over those years.( no cops, no military)

Obama's CDC....2013....500,000--3million

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Bordua...1977...1,414,544

DMIb...1978...1,098,409 ( no cops, no military)

Hart...1981...1.797,461 ( no cops, no military)

Mauser...1990...1,487,342 ( no cops,no military)

Gallup...1993...1,621,377 ( no cops, no military)

DEPT. OF JUSTICE...1994...1.5 million ( the bill clinton study)

Journal of Quantitative Criminology--- 989,883 times per year."

(Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18])

Paper: "Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment." By David McDowall and others. Journal of Quantitative Criminology, March 2000. Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment - Springer


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Ohio...1982...771,043

Gallup...1991...777,152

Tarrance... 1994... 764,036 (no cops, no military)

Lawerence Southwich Jr. 400,000 fewer violent crimes and at least 800,000 violent crimes deterred..

2021 national firearms survey..

The survey was designed by Deborah Azrael of the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, and Matthew Miller of Northeastern University,
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The survey further finds that approximately a third of gun owners (31.1%) have used a firearm to defend themselves or their property, often on more than one occasion, and it estimates that guns are used defensively by firearms owners in approximately 1.67 million incidents per year. Handguns are the most common firearm employed for self-defense (used in 65.9% of defensive incidents), and in most defensive incidents (81.9%) no shot was fired. Approximately a quarter (25.2%) of defensive incidents occurred within the gun owner's home, and approximately half (53.9%) occurred outside their home, but on their property. About one out of ten (9.1%) defensive gun uses occurred in public, and about one out of twenty (4.8%) occurred at work.
2021 National Firearms Survey

 

[2aguy]

Gun Violence by State 2024

worldpopulationreview.com

Stats of the States - Firearm Mortality

www.cdc.gov

The Economic Cost of Gun Violence

In an average year, gun violence in America kills 40,000 people, wounds nearly twice as many, and costs our nation $557 billion.

everytownresearch.org

Does it matter when the person who uses a firearm to murder or wound another person has a criminal record or not?

Lets try to guess the cost......shall we......?

Europe, between 1939-1945 murdered 15 million innocent men, women and children....after they first registered guns, then banned and confiscated them. Not war dead.....or combat collateral damage...these were people rounded up by their governments and the german socialists and murdered....

In the United States, gun murder number for the entire 246 year history of the country?

Around 2,460,000......the vast majority of the victims are criminals murdered by criminals, not innocent human beings.

Can you tell us which part of the world murdered more people?

Guns in the hands of normal people save lives...