emilynghiem
Constitutionalist / Universalist
- Jan 21, 2010
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When did Obama target and blame wealthy white conservatives as the greatest threat? If he did I agree but I dont recall him saying anything like that.I disagree. Saying Black slaves built the WH should have no bias either way. If you are perceiving a bias against or for whites then you have a perception issue and a issue with facts. The facts are that the bulk of the people that built the WH were indeed Black enslaved laborers. Someone getting their feelings hurt because the FLOTUS mentions this is silly beyond all reason.I think youre missing the point. Where in any of those topics are whites being framed? Are you claiming that merely stating historical facts is racist?Asclepias
You miss the point. They DO appreciate what we have in America that is QUITE PRIVILEGED.
They DON'T appreciate being blamed for being white and associated with privilege by RACE.
They are arguing that is equally racist to keep framing them as "representing a larger group" based on skin color.
Dear Asclepias that's what people are saying about Black reactions to things as being racially biased
when they are meant as historical.
People on both sides are taking things to mean pushing a bias either for or against Whites.
Someone brought this up in church on Sunday. That supporting Black Lives Matter was seen as anti-white.
That is the reality we live in, that people on both sides have been jumping on each other this way.
Can't bring up Christianity without people attacking the history and biases associated with white privilege,
especially white men.
Can't bring up the Constitution or the Tea Party without bringing up white racists.
Can't bring up the issue of slavery and the unresolved issue of reparations without
bringing up complaints that Blacks are racist in blaming all Whites for slavery, etc.
Any thing we bring up in this context and the media we have today,
gets framed and answered in terms of the race-baiting politics.
Because we still haven't resolved those issues, so they are still being projected on anything that touches these subjects. Even the Gorilla incident brought up racial issues, and it was only because the animal rights concerns overshadowed everything else, that the race issue stayed minimal. Even with that incident, people projected their racial issues onto because of past fights over racial perceptions and blame projected in media.
Dear Asclepias consider the source and the history.
Obama deliberately targeted and blamed wealthy white conservatives as the greatest threat.
He deliberately pushed for several laws from ACA mandates, to the LGBT agenda
with marriages and now public school bathroom policies,
KNOWING these violate the beliefs of "the opposition"
Neither Obama has tried to remedy this, but instead resorted
to acts of "REVENGE" to treat it as a war with the enemy by political bullying.
So Asclepias given that context of beliefs coming out of this White House they have expressed before,
THAT is why that comment is taken as negative!
Once you set up the sides to be hostile, anything said is going to be interpreted in that context. The Obama's
set it up that way to use this strategy politically. So once you choose that way of winning at the expense of demonizing another group, that is going to stay with you.
What does ACA and LGBT have to do with race directly?
No one set up anything to be hostile. As i recall Obama pledged to work across the aisle but white conservatives were instead hell bent on destroying him. Does the disrespectful phrase "you lie" ring any bells?
Here Asclepias I found a THIRD reference to this, the one he apologized for see below:
Obama seeks to blunt Republican attack over comment
I am able to find the reference to targeting rightwing extremists as more a dangerous threat than Jihadist terrorists
What I'm looking for is the reference to the wealthy conservatives, or maybe the wording was different.
I thought it had to do with Tea Party and Constitutionalists as enemies, but most of his comments taken as attacks "on the rich" are complaints that they don't pay their fair share in taxes where it is criminalizing wealth as bad. So maybe the references are a mix of those two contexts where he made remarks, I'll have to find them! If these are actually two separate references, there may be more than that. See the one below that he was called out on and apologized for demonizing and dividing the people he is supposed to be working with:
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President Barack Obama said on Monday he should not have used the word "enemies" to describe his political opponents as Republicans sought to make an issue of the comment a day before congressional elections.
Obama, in an interview with talk radio host Michael Baisden, said, "I probably should have used the word 'opponents' instead of enemies."
He was backtracking from a comment he made a week ago in an interview with Univision radio in which he sought to persuade Hispanics to vote for Democratic candidates instead of Republicans.
"If Latinos sit out the election instead of, 'we're going to punish our enemies and we're going to reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us' -- if they don't see that kind of upsurge in voting in this election, then I think it's going to be harder," Obama had said.
Republicans in hot pursuit of control of the House of Representatives in Tuesday voting were drawing attention to Obama's "enemies" comment in hopes of encouraging more turnout by Republican voters.
Hammering home the issue was John Boehner, the Republican who would oust Democrat Nancy Pelosi as House speaker if Republicans win control of the House on Tuesday as most pollsters believe will happen.
"Today, sadly, we have president who uses the word 'enemy' for fellow Americans ... fellow citizens. He uses it for people who disagree with his agenda of bigger government ... people speaking out for a smaller, more accountable government that respects freedom and allows small businesses to create jobs," Boehner planned to say in Cincinnati.
"Mr. President, there's a word for people who have the audacity to speak up in defense of freedom, the Constitution, and the values of limited government that made our country great. We don't call them 'enemies.' We call them 'patriots,'" he planned to say.
Obama told Baisden that he was talking about opponents of a comprehensive overhaul of the U.S. immigration system. Hispanics have been disappointed that Obama has not pushed ahead on immigration legislation, which Republicans oppose.