Who are these people who want to tell women what to do in their private lives?

[JakeStarkey]

Abortion is abstract when it is some woman you don't know.

If it is your girlfriend or your wife or your sister or your daughter, then that makes it real.

Even though, despite 2aguy's willingness to violate the laws, it's her choice within the regulation of the law.

And the law and how it is applied nods nothing to the 2aguys of the country: nothing.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Murder is a legal term. Abortion is a medical term. Your opinion is . . . only your opinion, and is neither a medical nor a legal term.

Playing semantic games does not change the reality that you are trying to conceal by twisting the meanings of the words used to describe it. Killing an innocent human being in cold blood is the same act, with the same moral significance, regardless of what meaning you try to assign to words.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Now the Arkansas legislature "passes law allowing rapists to sue victims who want an abortion."

Arkansas just passed a law that will let rapists sue victims who want an abortion

This law (1) gives the husband of his pregnant wife the legal right "to stop her from having an abortion, even in cases of spousal rape . . .". That will be cheered on by Iranian parliament.

And (2) husbands can sue for damages the doctors who carry out such abortions.

Insanity reigns in Arkansas.

I'm anti-Abortion with the exceptions of rape, incest and where the life of the mother is concerned, I don't support abortion being used as a means of contraception.

This situation you post about in Arkansas is the full-on extreme and it should be strongly resisted, women who have been raped have a right not to suffer psychological damage and scarring by being forced to carry a rapists child for nine months and then give birth to it.

This is a very complex issue, that involves both physical trauma but more devastatingly enduring psychological trauma that could last for the rest of the woman's life and also lead to suicidal tendency, so to avoid all of that it's imperative that if a woman is raped she is allowed the right for her own psychological well-being to have an abortion if she wishes to.

When is abortion ever used as a means of contraception?

You are one of the intellectually challenged I've been unfortunate enough to read some of your previous comments, therefore it's of no surprise that you would ask such an ignorant question.

But here goes I'll answer it.

Abortion on demand, getting pregnant and then saying you want an abortion because a baby isn't convenient and will mess up your career or lifestyle, that's using abortion as contraception.

If a woman doesn't want to become pregnant it's simple, use contraception, there are a variety of contraceptives that can be used.

Killing a baby as it slumbers in the womb because it being born will mess up your career or lifestyle is just that, pre-meditated killing and those that support that are cruel and disgusting.

why are republicans working do hard to keep women away from contraceptives?

Why do you keep beating your wife? That was a rhetorical question by the way? The republicans are not working hard to keep women from contraceptives.

That's you in the mirror to whom you are talking.

 

[miketx]

When it comes to abortion, conservative scum will side with rapists, every time. It does not matter what they say. Their word is hollow and meaningless. The people who need to be aborted are these worthless Republican shitlords in Arkansas who wrote this bill.

Holy shit the baby should be butchered? Is that punishing the rapist? You libs are twisted individuals.

There is no 'baby"

Not when you're done.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Murder is a legal term. Abortion is a medical term. Your opinion is . . . only your opinion, and is neither a medical nor a legal term.

Playing semantic games does not change the reality that you are trying to conceal by twisting the meanings of the words used to describe it. Killing an innocent human being in cold blood is the same act, with the same moral significance, regardless of what meaning you try to assign to words.

You are no judge of other's moral decisions. Your Bishop would tell you to leave such statements alone to your church's spokesman. Email Richard Turley for guidance, because you are very poor example of the Mormon Church. Murder is a legal term, abortion is a medical term, and your opinion is your opinion, meaningless.

 

[Geaux4it]

Now the Arkansas legislature "passes law allowing rapists to sue victims who want an abortion."

Arkansas just passed a law that will let rapists sue victims who want an abortion

This law (1) gives the husband of his pregnant wife the legal right "to stop her from having an abortion, even in cases of spousal rape . . .". That will be cheered on by Iranian parliament.

And (2) husbands can sue for damages the doctors who carry out such abortions.

Insanity reigns in Arkansas.

If there is a heartbeat, it's murder to terminate it

-Geaux

 

[JakeStarkey]

Now the Arkansas legislature "passes law allowing rapists to sue victims who want an abortion."

Arkansas just passed a law that will let rapists sue victims who want an abortion

This law (1) gives the husband of his pregnant wife the legal right "to stop her from having an abortion, even in cases of spousal rape . . .". That will be cheered on by Iranian parliament.

And (2) husbands can sue for damages the doctors who carry out such abortions.

Insanity reigns in Arkansas.

If there is a heartbeat, it's murder to terminate it-Geaux

Depends on the law, little buddy.

 

[Geaux4it]

Now the Arkansas legislature "passes law allowing rapists to sue victims who want an abortion."

Arkansas just passed a law that will let rapists sue victims who want an abortion

This law (1) gives the husband of his pregnant wife the legal right "to stop her from having an abortion, even in cases of spousal rape . . .". That will be cheered on by Iranian parliament.

And (2) husbands can sue for damages the doctors who carry out such abortions.

Insanity reigns in Arkansas.

If there is a heartbeat, it's murder to terminate it-Geaux

Depends on the law, little buddy.

Law need not apply except the law of nature

-Geaux

 

[JakeStarkey]

Now the Arkansas legislature "passes law allowing rapists to sue victims who want an abortion."

Arkansas just passed a law that will let rapists sue victims who want an abortion

This law (1) gives the husband of his pregnant wife the legal right "to stop her from having an abortion, even in cases of spousal rape . . .". That will be cheered on by Iranian parliament.

And (2) husbands can sue for damages the doctors who carry out such abortions.

Insanity reigns in Arkansas.

If there is a heartbeat, it's murder to terminate it-Geaux

Depends on the law, little buddy.

Law need not apply except the law of nature -Geaux

We are not ruled by the law of nature or by your interp thereof.

 

[tinydancer]

Wait. The fathers of the unborn are called the rapists?

 

[Geaux4it]

Now the Arkansas legislature "passes law allowing rapists to sue victims who want an abortion."

Arkansas just passed a law that will let rapists sue victims who want an abortion

This law (1) gives the husband of his pregnant wife the legal right "to stop her from having an abortion, even in cases of spousal rape . . .". That will be cheered on by Iranian parliament.

And (2) husbands can sue for damages the doctors who carry out such abortions.

Insanity reigns in Arkansas.

If there is a heartbeat, it's murder to terminate it-Geaux

Depends on the law, little buddy.

Law need not apply except the law of nature -Geaux

We are not ruled by the law of nature or by your interp thereof.

If it has a heartbeat, it is murder to terminate it

It's human, not a dog, cat or other animal

-Geaux

 

[deltex1]

Abortion is abstract when it is some woman you don't know.

If it is your girlfriend or your wife or your sister or your daughter, then that makes it real.

Even though, despite 2aguy's willingness to violate the laws, it's her choice within the regulation of the law.

And the law and how it is applied nods nothing to the 2aguys of the country: nothing.

It's not their lives we care about...it's their legs. Be aware what happens when you open them.

 

[LuckyDuck]

Now the Arkansas legislature "passes law allowing rapists to sue victims who want an abortion."

Arkansas just passed a law that will let rapists sue victims who want an abortion

This law (1) gives the husband of his pregnant wife the legal right "to stop her from having an abortion, even in cases of spousal rape . . .". That will be cheered on by Iranian parliament.

And (2) husbands can sue for damages the doctors who carry out such abortions.

Insanity reigns in Arkansas.

Any rape victims should in turn, sue those responsible by name for inflicting "cruel and unusual punishment" for making a rape victim suffer the daily reminder of being raped, as well as the pain and suffering of childbirth.

 

[Rustic]

Now the Arkansas legislature "passes law allowing rapists to sue victims who want an abortion."

Arkansas just passed a law that will let rapists sue victims who want an abortion

This law (1) gives the husband of his pregnant wife the legal right "to stop her from having an abortion, even in cases of spousal rape . . .". That will be cheered on by Iranian parliament.

And (2) husbands can sue for damages the doctors who carry out such abortions.

Insanity reigns in Arkansas.

States rights...

 

[tinydancer]

This is very important here. Am I reading it right that the women in question are wanting the abortion while in the middle of a divorce?

 

[JoeMoma]

Suppose a woman is raped, but she also recently has consensual sex with her husband. She becomes pregnant and the baby is born 9 months later. Perhaps she lives somewhere in the world where she does not have access to medical testing to determine who the father is before birth of the baby. After the baby is born the woman and her husband realize that the rapist (not the husband) is the father of the baby. Should the woman have the right to kill the baby?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Suppose a woman is raped, but she also recently has consensual sex with her husband. She becomes pregnant and the baby is born 9 months later. Perhaps she lives somewhere in the world where she does not have access to medical testing to determine who the father is before birth of the baby. After the baby is born the woman and her husband realize that the rapist (not the husband) is the father of the baby. Should the woman have the right to kill the baby?

Fallacy of trying to equate abortion with homicide after birth. Fail. Try again.

 

[JoeMoma]

Now the Arkansas legislature "passes law allowing rapists to sue victims who want an abortion."

Arkansas just passed a law that will let rapists sue victims who want an abortion

This law (1) gives the husband of his pregnant wife the legal right "to stop her from having an abortion, even in cases of spousal rape . . .". That will be cheered on by Iranian parliament.

And (2) husbands can sue for damages the doctors who carry out such abortions.

Insanity reigns in Arkansas.

If there is a heartbeat, it's murder to terminate it-Geaux

Depends on the law, little buddy.

So if we change the law so that all killing of other humans regardless of age, then there would be no murder. Let's do it because murder is bad. Put an end to murder, make killing others legal!

 

[JakeStarkey]

Now the Arkansas legislature "passes law allowing rapists to sue victims who want an abortion."

Arkansas just passed a law that will let rapists sue victims who want an abortion

This law (1) gives the husband of his pregnant wife the legal right "to stop her from having an abortion, even in cases of spousal rape . . .". That will be cheered on by Iranian parliament.

And (2) husbands can sue for damages the doctors who carry out such abortions.

Insanity reigns in Arkansas.

If there is a heartbeat, it's murder to terminate it-Geaux

Depends on the law, little buddy.

So if we change the law so that all killing of other humans regardless of age, then there would be no murder. Let's do it because murder is bad. Put an end to murder, make killing others legal!

Go for it, little buddy, notify your legislator of the law you want.

Of course get ready for police who come by on a welfare visit to check on you and your family.

 

[irosie91]

This is very important here. Am I reading it right that the women in question are wanting the abortion while in the middle of a divorce?

It could happen-----a marriage FALLS APART for whatever reason and the woman finds herself pregnant. Such tragedies do happen