Who has a better life? $15 hour in San Francisco?or $7.25 hour in South Carolina?

[Wyatt earp]

So the liberals agree in this thread it is better to live in a 8 square foot dog kennel for $400 a month then 1000 square foot home with a yard?


Check...........




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I'm sure those prices were cherry picked. Did you notice one was for a specific city, and one was for a whole state?



Median income in California for 1 earner: $48,415

Median income for family of 3 in California: $63,030

California family of 4: $67,401

California family of 5: $75,656


Median income in South Carolina for 1 earner: $39,238

Family of 3: $50,548

Family of 4: $53,532

Family of 5: $61,388


U.S. Trustee Program/Dept. of Justice

And taxes are?



Not that good with math and cost of living are we?


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[Wyatt earp]

IDK but I guarantee you people aint shitting in the streets in SC..

You have never been to Greenville or Saluda or Bamberg, mouse lord.

You are thinking Spartanburg, not Greenville today.



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[Rozman]

Where would you want to live and rent for $400 bucks a month?

This:

Or this box for $400 bucks a month in someone's 1 bedroom apartment?

Why it's not completely ridiculous to live in a $400 box in San Francisco



We started the search for a cat-friendly, one-bedroom apartment with the max price set to $2,500. It would be more than we spent in Washington, D.C., but split between the two of us, my boyfriend Brent and I could make that work. Zero results came up. We paid for an AirBnB for one full month to help us get settled and, ideally, not be forced into the first available apartment we found, so we took the next week to search online for apartments.

I could pay $1,400 for a private bedroom in a house with other roommates — but I’d have to leave Brent behind. I could live in the “PENTHOUSE DELUXX FULLY FURNISHED” scam that had a price tag of $99 a month. Or we could commute from San Jose. We gulped and bumped our search window up to $3,300. Finally, there were a number of options. I emailed all of them. Every single one. Photos or no photos. Regardless of neighborhood, distance from work or square footage, I emailed with my friendliest compliments about their “absolutely beautiful” properties...


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Made me think of a Friends episode....
Also made me think that I would be afraid that the guy I'm renting from
would lock me in there and then have all his gay friends come over and make fun of me.....

 

[JakeStarkey]

IDK but I guarantee you people aint shitting in the streets in SC..

You have never been to Greenville or Saluda or Bamberg, mouse lord.

You are thinking Spartanburg, not Greenville today.

I remember those Anderson County folks who thought the US was part of SC.

 

[Freewill]

For a dude who lives in a dingy trailer, you sure do come off as an arrogant prick.

Someone who earns $15 per hour in SF can have a little dignity and maybe not need any public assistance. Douche.

Have you never been to San Fran? At 15 dollars an hour, they had better be living in their mon's basement cause there ain't nowhere else they can afford.

 

[Staidhup]

So friends what will you tell those that lose their jobs? What will you tell the student looking for a job, we pay $15/hr but have no openings and don't plan any in the near future?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

I lived in South Carolina, just outside of Charlotte, for six years. I still own a really nice two bed two bath condo there that I only paid $120k for. I liked it there and that was the first time I was able to buy my own place. I could never afford to buy in Boston.

 

[Wyatt earp]

IDK but I guarantee you people aint shitting in the streets in SC..

You have never been to Greenville or Saluda or Bamberg, mouse lord.

You are thinking Spartanburg, not Greenville today.

I remember those Anderson County folks who thought the US was part of SC.

Never heard that story. Can't stand Anderson either like Spartanburg and orabgeburg, frickin dumps.



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[LoneLaugher]

I lived in South Carolina, just outside of Charlotte, for six years. I still own a really nice two bed two bath condo there that I only paid $120k for. I liked it there and that was the first time I was able to buy my own place. I could never afford to buy in Boston.

Like every USMB nutbag, DTMB is a wealthy guy with several income properties. He's just really pissed off at the world because. Just because.

Weeeeeeeee!

 

[SwimExpert]

For a dude who lives in a dingy trailer, you sure do come off as an arrogant prick.

Someone who earns $15 per hour in SF can have a little dignity and maybe not need any public assistance. Douche.

Actually, they will need public assistance. They just won't qualify.

But that's irrelevant. The only point that the OP can legitimately claim to have made is that different states have different economies. Things are alot cheaper in South Carolina. Oh, and look at that....the result is that they have a lower minimum wage than California. BFD.

 

[ZackB]

SC. They are my kind of folks.

That's the N. Ga mountains, the southern Appalachians. Now, I am not going to try to deceive you; I am originally from N. Ga, and I have relatives in the N. Ga area, and I have been to the areas where Deliverance was filmed (the lake being filled in the movie is, reality, Caters Lake, a 4,000 acre scenic lake near Ellijay, Ga. I have hunted and fished up in that area a great deal throughout my youth. The river Rapids scenes were filmed on the upper Chattooga River, which is in the SC area in part. I have done quite a bit of fly fishing on the upper part of that river). So, in the spirit of full disclosure, I probably have a little hillbilly in my veins, but only a very little. I grew up in Atlanta.

 

[Wyatt earp]

I lived in South Carolina, just outside of Charlotte, for six years. I still own a really nice two bed two bath condo there that I only paid $120k for. I liked it there and that was the first time I was able to buy my own place. I could never afford to buy in Boston.

I loved Boston, almost trabsfered in the 80s from Chicago to Worcester Mass.It was my first glimpse of cost of living and I thought it would be cheaper then the Chicago suburbs . ....boy was I wrong

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

I lived in South Carolina, just outside of Charlotte, for six years. I still own a really nice two bed two bath condo there that I only paid $120k for. I liked it there and that was the first time I was able to buy my own place. I could never afford to buy in Boston.

Like every USMB nutbag, DTMB is a wealthy guy with several income properties. He's just really pissed off at the world because. Just because.

Weeeeeeeee!

I lived in that condo. When I had to move to Vegas for work I couldn't sell it for what I owed because I bought it in early 2008 right before the housing market crashed. I've had renters there for the last three years.

 

[anotherlife]

See what it does to you when lenders write all the laws for you? Soon the $400 will rent you maximum a garden shed, forget the one bedroom.

 

[easyt65]

Those in SC...for no other reason than it's not California.

 

[candycorn]

I notice the right wing guys seem to focus only on the costs. Money is important but certainly there is more to living than getting through the cheapest way possible. By the same token, richness of price tag does not translate to richness of experience to be sure. Like when we’re in San Fran, we generally stay in Hayward across the bay and spend almost sunrise to sunset on the Embarcadero. There is no reason (in my view) to stay at the Courtyard off the BAB, pay 2x as much to sleep close by.

San Francisco is like another planet. It so condensed, so compact, so rich and big. The Castro, the Embarcadero, North Bay, Sausalito….

The Cliff House.

True there are cheaper places to live but what you miss is something you can’t buy with the money you save. I’m sure there will be some snide commentary. Whatever. It’s one of the things wrong with America. “Price is no object” is wrong but “Price is the only option” is worse. Its dangerous.

 

[imawhosure]

I notice the right wing guys seem to focus only on the costs. Money is important but certainly there is more to living than getting through the cheapest way possible. By the same token, richness of price tag does not translate to richness of experience to be sure. Like when we’re in San Fran, we generally stay in Hayward across the bay and spend almost sunrise to sunset on the Embarcadero. There is no reason (in my view) to stay at the Courtyard off the BAB, pay 2x as much to sleep close by.

San Francisco is like another planet. It so condensed, so compact, so rich and big. The Castro, the Embarcadero, North Bay, Sausalito….

The Cliff House.

True there are cheaper places to live but what you miss is something you can’t buy with the money you save. I’m sure there will be some snide commentary. Whatever. It’s one of the things wrong with America. “Price is no object” is wrong but “Price is the only option” is worse. Its dangerous.

Candy, nothing wrong with living where you want to live, regardless if the cost is high, or low.

Some people like open fields, some like skyscrapers and night life, others like rivers and streams; all are correct if they are happy. You pay for what you want! But to make others pay because you want it is wrong! Don't you agree?

Ask me, or most anyone else on here, if we care that you demand that minimum wage in California is 15 bucks an hr. I know the cost is going up there. Do I care? Hell no I don't, that is your choice! If you think it is a good idea and you live there, who am I to say over here in Indiana. You reap the rewards, or suffer the consequences. And know what! If it works out great for you after 4, 5, or 6 years and business booms, guess what! Hell yeah, I am going to be screaming for it too.

But, the thing is, don't demand it become a national law. What if you are wrong like we think you are? What is the harm to you if we wait and see? You will prosper, and we will suffer if you are correct.

Right now, businesses and people are fleeing California like the plague. We won't discuss why on here, but it appears that the feds want to use the old adage that, "misery loves company." Imagine, just imagine, if you are correct, people will start flocking back to California, and every other jurisdiction that enacts the 15 dollar an hr minimum wage. Back up your ideas! You, and the rest of the people who believe this economic model, bury the rest of us with your brilliance! Don't force us to be competitive with you by dictating your model, watch us flounder as you pull away with this new economic idea.. And why wouldn't you? You can show us conclusively that your ideas are the correct ideas, while taking jobs for those within your state. Sounds like a win-win for you guys.

I want all of us out here to be proven wrong, and your model work! Show contrast by how well you do in the immediate future compared to us, so as we can jump on board, giving of course the inventors of this brilliance a leg up because we are so far behind.

Be confidant! Be conclusive! Be cutting edge! Show us your way, is the correct way. Let us see how brave you are to step out on the ledge, all by yourselves, and put your NEW model against that, which already was. Let us see if what your profs taught you works, or doesn't, because we are watching, and you might yet convince us rubes if you take it on alone, and kick everyone else's economic ass by doing it-)

 

[jon_berzerk]

Where would you want to live and rent for $400 bucks a month?

This:

Or this box for $400 bucks a month in someone's 1 bedroom apartment?

Why it's not completely ridiculous to live in a $400 box in San Francisco



We started the search for a cat-friendly, one-bedroom apartment with the max price set to $2,500. It would be more than we spent in Washington, D.C., but split between the two of us, my boyfriend Brent and I could make that work. Zero results came up. We paid for an AirBnB for one full month to help us get settled and, ideally, not be forced into the first available apartment we found, so we took the next week to search online for apartments.

I could pay $1,400 for a private bedroom in a house with other roommates — but I’d have to leave Brent behind. I could live in the “PENTHOUSE DELUXX FULLY FURNISHED” scam that had a price tag of $99 a month. Or we could commute from San Jose. We gulped and bumped our search window up to $3,300. Finally, there were a number of options. I emailed all of them. Every single one. Photos or no photos. Regardless of neighborhood, distance from work or square footage, I emailed with my friendliest compliments about their “absolutely beautiful” properties...


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Why it's not completely ridiculous to live in a $400 box in San Francisco

besides all the conditions laid out upon the 15 dollar minimum

how many currently employed will become unemployed

 

[leftwinger]

I notice the right wing guys seem to focus only on the costs. Money is important but certainly there is more to living than getting through the cheapest way possible. By the same token, richness of price tag does not translate to richness of experience to be sure. Like when we’re in San Fran, we generally stay in Hayward across the bay and spend almost sunrise to sunset on the Embarcadero. There is no reason (in my view) to stay at the Courtyard off the BAB, pay 2x as much to sleep close by.

San Francisco is like another planet. It so condensed, so compact, so rich and big. The Castro, the Embarcadero, North Bay, Sausalito….

The Cliff House.

True there are cheaper places to live but what you miss is something you can’t buy with the money you save. I’m sure there will be some snide commentary. Whatever. It’s one of the things wrong with America. “Price is no object” is wrong but “Price is the only option” is worse. Its dangerous.

Sleep box not the issue as much as bathroom. I on tablet only or I wud explain more.

 

[candycorn]

I notice the right wing guys seem to focus only on the costs. Money is important but certainly there is more to living than getting through the cheapest way possible. By the same token, richness of price tag does not translate to richness of experience to be sure. Like when we’re in San Fran, we generally stay in Hayward across the bay and spend almost sunrise to sunset on the Embarcadero. There is no reason (in my view) to stay at the Courtyard off the BAB, pay 2x as much to sleep close by.

San Francisco is like another planet. It so condensed, so compact, so rich and big. The Castro, the Embarcadero, North Bay, Sausalito….

The Cliff House.

True there are cheaper places to live but what you miss is something you can’t buy with the money you save. I’m sure there will be some snide commentary. Whatever. It’s one of the things wrong with America. “Price is no object” is wrong but “Price is the only option” is worse. Its dangerous.

Candy, nothing wrong with living where you want to live, regardless if the cost is high, or low.

Some people like open fields, some like skyscrapers and night life, others like rivers and streams; all are correct if they are happy. You pay for what you want! But to make others pay because you want it is wrong! Don't you agree?

Ask me, or most anyone else on here, if we care that you demand that minimum wage in California is 15 bucks an hr. I know the cost is going up there. Do I care? Hell no I don't, that is your choice! If you think it is a good idea and you live there, who am I to say over here in Indiana. You reap the rewards, or suffer the consequences. And know what! If it works out great for you after 4, 5, or 6 years and business booms, guess what! Hell yeah, I am going to be screaming for it too.

But, the thing is, don't demand it become a national law. What if you are wrong like we think you are? What is the harm to you if we wait and see? You will prosper, and we will suffer if you are correct.

Right now, businesses and people are fleeing California like the plague. We won't discuss why on here, but it appears that the feds want to use the old adage that, "misery loves company." Imagine, just imagine, if you are correct, people will start flocking back to California, and every other jurisdiction that enacts the 15 dollar an hr minimum wage. Back up your ideas! You, and the rest of the people who believe this economic model, bury the rest of us with your brilliance! Don't force us to be competitive with you by dictating your model, watch us flounder as you pull away with this new economic idea.. And why wouldn't you? You can show us conclusively that your ideas are the correct ideas, while taking jobs for those within your state. Sounds like a win-win for you guys.

I want all of us out here to be proven wrong, and your model work! Show contrast by how well you do in the immediate future compared to us, so as we can jump on board, giving of course the inventors of this brilliance a leg up because we are so far behind.

Be confidant! Be conclusive! Be cutting edge! Show us your way, is the correct way. Let us see how brave you are to step out on the ledge, all by yourselves, and put your NEW model against that, which already was. Let us see if what your profs taught you works, or doesn't, because we are watching, and you might yet convince us rubes if you take it on alone, and kick everyone else's economic ass by doing it-)

Every day someone writes a song about California....