WHO, here, considers IMMIGRATION as the MOST crucial economic issue?

[Yarddog]

Immigration is not an issue.
Trespassing is an issue.

Exactly what Mexico stated about Americans flooding into the Texas territory..

True those Americans were wrong for doing so , but the world has changed since then, and Mexico still came out ahead. Texas is a nice place they can visit , make money on work visas and a great place for Mexican Americans to live, if it belonged to Mexico currently, it would be a cartel infested shit hole with no RIO Grande to separate us. We also send them many millions in aid each year. We've probably paid for that land many times over. Its a good thing it became Texas.

 

[Yarddog]

Please forgive the comparison and I'd readily agree that its not a fair one although relevant to the topic.

In the 1930s, Hitler well knew that there were MAJOR economic problems facing a bankrupt and inflation-ridden German economy.....He "cleverly" found that there was traction in gaining his political power by identifying a minority group and placing ALL the blame on them for Germany's woes.

So, who here is willing to say that illegal immigration is the MOST crucial problem contributing to our slow economic growth and unemployment among certain segments of our population?

It seems that besides the issue of "illegal immigration" Trump has NO OTHER clear policies (and even the one on immigration Trump seems to daily flip-flop on.)

There are bigger issues, but its still a sizable one, especially for Americans who are poor and not college educated.
At a time when we have many unemployed, it doesn't make sense to want to ramp up immigration, which by the way is what Hillary wants to do

 

[nat4900]

There are bigger issues, but its still a sizable one, especially for Americans who are poor and not college educated.

I've stated this many times but it does not filter into most right wingers' heads.....

Those illegals are doing the type of jobs for the kind of salary that FEW...if any.....Americans would relocate from Detroit or Cleveland to do in the farmlands of CA or TX......

If you want to pay for your lettuce head what you now pay to fill up your SUV, then by all means, deport the millions who currently are the same number as the TOTAL population of Illinois.

Sure, Trump will fix it all up......."trust him".

 

[Yarddog]

Please forgive the comparison and I'd readily agree that its not a fair one although relevant to the topic.

In the 1930s, Hitler well knew that there were MAJOR economic problems facing a bankrupt and inflation-ridden German economy.....He "cleverly" found that there was traction in gaining his political power by identifying a minority group and placing ALL the blame on them for Germany's woes.

So, who here is willing to say that illegal immigration is the MOST crucial problem contributing to our slow economic growth and unemployment among certain segments of our population?

It seems that besides the issue of "illegal immigration" Trump has NO OTHER clear policies (and even the one on immigration Trump seems to daily flip-flop on.)

There are bigger issues, but its still a sizable one, especially for Americans who are poor and not college educated.
At a time when we have many unemployed, it doesn't make sense to want to ramp up immigration, which by the way is what Hillary wants to do

Those don't represent all Illegal aliens or all the jobs people are competing for. Hillary wants to bring in 10s of thousands more ME refugees as well. Im thinking that would be a low estimate. Just think it would be a better idea to take care of our own " inner city" and " trailor park" refugees first. We have a lot of people out of work and before that problem has been tackled, we have politicians who want to take care of other peoples problems.

If we want migrant workers to work in our fields, It could be done legally. Theres no reason they need to sneak through the border

 

[2aguy]

Immigrants are a vital component of our economy. Especially the undocumented ones.

Yes....they depress wages, use up resources and many of them bring drugs and illegals across the border.....I see what you mean....

 

[charwin95]

Not all, but enough to warrant significant changes.

Then there is the matter of law.

here is an equivalency............What Trump is proposing is to march on (an example) the state of Pennsylvania, rounding up EVERY human being in that state, and placing them in boxcars to ship them to Tijuana....Feasible???

Not necessary. All that needs to be done is to deny all benefits, jobs, and the ability to do business in the US, and they will leave.

NO.... They won't.

 

[2aguy]

If we didn't have cheap labor/slave laborors then those jobs would have to pay more and the working conditions would have to improve.....but hey...slavery was a democrat thing back in the day, and they just can't stop practicing it today........for some reason they need an underclass to make themselves feel better....

 

[MaryL]

Trick question.Immigration is a separate topic. But, if you mean by that, illegal aliens and their impact on the economy, yes, that is a significant issue.

 

[charwin95]

Oh and did any of you libtards notice? Trump moved ahead of Hillary today by 2.....CNN poll....BUUUUUAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

It's rigged.

 

[charwin95]

Sorry, Mexicans are NOT the MOST crucial economic issue, retard.

You are right! most border crosser's are from south America

Last year 500k tourists violated their visa and goes on hiding. These assholes are also taking advantage of the free benefits.
How come your only pointing your hatred towards the beaners that are working and paying taxes?


Study Finds Illegal Immigrants Pay $11.8B in Taxes

A new nationwide study on the fiscal implications of illegal immigration concludes that millions of undocumented immigrants are paying billions of dollar in taxes into state and local coffers, and that substantially more would be generated if President Obama prevails in imposing a new executive order protecting many of those workers from deportation.

The 50-state analysis by the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy released on Thursday found that roughly 8.1 million of 11.4 million undocumented immigrants who work paid more than $11.8 billion in state and local taxes in 2012, even while they were living illegally in the country.

 

[Pop23]

Sorry, Mexicans are NOT the MOST crucial economic issue, retard.

You are right! most border crosser's are from south America

Last year 500k tourists violated their visa and goes on hiding. These assholes are also taking advantage of the free benefits.
How come your only pointing your hatred towards the beaners that are working and paying taxes?


Study Finds Illegal Immigrants Pay $11.8B in Taxes

A new nationwide study on the fiscal implications of illegal immigration concludes that millions of undocumented immigrants are paying billions of dollar in taxes into state and local coffers, and that substantially more would be generated if President Obama prevails in imposing a new executive order protecting many of those workers from deportation.

The 50-state analysis by the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy released on Thursday found that roughly 8.1 million of 11.4 million undocumented immigrants who work paid more than $11.8 billion in state and local taxes in 2012, even while they were living illegally in the country.

Now show the cost.

Prolly not so hot afterwards .

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Sorry, Mexicans are NOT the MOST crucial economic issue, retard.

You are right! most border crosser's are from south America

Last year 500k tourists violated their visa and goes on hiding. These assholes are also taking advantage of the free benefits.
How come your only pointing your hatred towards the beaners that are working and paying taxes?


Study Finds Illegal Immigrants Pay $11.8B in Taxes

A new nationwide study on the fiscal implications of illegal immigration concludes that millions of undocumented immigrants are paying billions of dollar in taxes into state and local coffers, and that substantially more would be generated if President Obama prevails in imposing a new executive order protecting many of those workers from deportation.

The 50-state analysis by the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy released on Thursday found that roughly 8.1 million of 11.4 million undocumented immigrants who work paid more than $11.8 billion in state and local taxes in 2012, even while they were living illegally in the country.

Now show the cost.

Prolly not so hot afterwords.

According to this... $113 billion per year.

State Cost Studies | Federation for American Immigration Reform

Now, cue the cries of "racist" from dum-dums like G.

 

[Pop23]

Sorry, Mexicans are NOT the MOST crucial economic issue, retard.

You are right! most border crosser's are from south America

Last year 500k tourists violated their visa and goes on hiding. These assholes are also taking advantage of the free benefits.
How come your only pointing your hatred towards the beaners that are working and paying taxes?


Study Finds Illegal Immigrants Pay $11.8B in Taxes

A new nationwide study on the fiscal implications of illegal immigration concludes that millions of undocumented immigrants are paying billions of dollar in taxes into state and local coffers, and that substantially more would be generated if President Obama prevails in imposing a new executive order protecting many of those workers from deportation.

The 50-state analysis by the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy released on Thursday found that roughly 8.1 million of 11.4 million undocumented immigrants who work paid more than $11.8 billion in state and local taxes in 2012, even while they were living illegally in the country.

Now show the cost.

Prolly not so hot afterwords.

According to this... $113 billion per year.

State Cost Studies | Federation for American Immigration Reform

Now, cue the cries of "racist" from dum-dums like G.

Gee, that much? You might be able to what? Build a wall with the savings???

I dunno......

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Sorry, Mexicans are NOT the MOST crucial economic issue, retard.

You are right! most border crosser's are from south America

Last year 500k tourists violated their visa and goes on hiding. These assholes are also taking advantage of the free benefits.
How come your only pointing your hatred towards the beaners that are working and paying taxes?


Study Finds Illegal Immigrants Pay $11.8B in Taxes

A new nationwide study on the fiscal implications of illegal immigration concludes that millions of undocumented immigrants are paying billions of dollar in taxes into state and local coffers, and that substantially more would be generated if President Obama prevails in imposing a new executive order protecting many of those workers from deportation.

The 50-state analysis by the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy released on Thursday found that roughly 8.1 million of 11.4 million undocumented immigrants who work paid more than $11.8 billion in state and local taxes in 2012, even while they were living illegally in the country.

Now show the cost.

Prolly not so hot afterwords.

According to this... $113 billion per year.

State Cost Studies | Federation for American Immigration Reform

Now, cue the cries of "racist" from dum-dums like G.

Gee, that much? You might be able to what? Build a wall with the savings???

I dunno......

I believe that in part, that is what Trump means. Trump doesn't believe Mexico is going to send us a check.

That's just stupid. But our genius liberal friends, well, that's what they hear.

 

[nat4900]

The reality may well be this......

Neither Trump or Clinton have ANY easy answer as to how to best ameliorate the economy......

Clinton relies of typical political platitudes in providing some answers...

Trump, on the other hand, bullshits with either, "trust me I'm the best businessman that ever lived)......OR, bullshits with building a beautiful wall and expatriating 11-15 million humans........ Since these latter 2 "answers" are fantasies that are either highly impractical or would never be funded (unless Trump would pay for the wall with money that he doesn't have), the liar Trump can always tell his disappointed acolytes, "Well, I tried, but congress won't let me,"

Of course, there is yet another possible explanation if Trump is NOT lying...and that is, that the orange clown actually believes in his own bullshit and that may be even scarier.

 

[charwin95]

Sorry, Mexicans are NOT the MOST crucial economic issue, retard.

You are right! most border crosser's are from south America

Last year 500k tourists violated their visa and goes on hiding. These assholes are also taking advantage of the free benefits.
How come your only pointing your hatred towards the beaners that are working and paying taxes?


Study Finds Illegal Immigrants Pay $11.8B in Taxes

A new nationwide study on the fiscal implications of illegal immigration concludes that millions of undocumented immigrants are paying billions of dollar in taxes into state and local coffers, and that substantially more would be generated if President Obama prevails in imposing a new executive order protecting many of those workers from deportation.

The 50-state analysis by the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy released on Thursday found that roughly 8.1 million of 11.4 million undocumented immigrants who work paid more than $11.8 billion in state and local taxes in 2012, even while they were living illegally in the country.

Now show the cost.

Prolly not so hot afterwords.

According to this... $113 billion per year.

State Cost Studies | Federation for American Immigration Reform

Now, cue the cries of "racist" from dum-dums like G.

Gee, that much? You might be able to what? Build a wall with the savings???

I dunno......

So what happened to the illegals that over stayed their visa? How much do you think that cost and welfare benefits that they are scamming? without any contribution to the government.

Why are you all concentrating your hatred to Mexicans?

 

[initforme]

We cannot expect americans to do the same jobs illegals do for even close to the same wages. No way no how.

 

[Pop23]

You are right! most border crosser's are from south America

Last year 500k tourists violated their visa and goes on hiding. These assholes are also taking advantage of the free benefits.
How come your only pointing your hatred towards the beaners that are working and paying taxes?


Study Finds Illegal Immigrants Pay $11.8B in Taxes

A new nationwide study on the fiscal implications of illegal immigration concludes that millions of undocumented immigrants are paying billions of dollar in taxes into state and local coffers, and that substantially more would be generated if President Obama prevails in imposing a new executive order protecting many of those workers from deportation.

The 50-state analysis by the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy released on Thursday found that roughly 8.1 million of 11.4 million undocumented immigrants who work paid more than $11.8 billion in state and local taxes in 2012, even while they were living illegally in the country.

Now show the cost.

Prolly not so hot afterwords.

According to this... $113 billion per year.

State Cost Studies | Federation for American Immigration Reform

Now, cue the cries of "racist" from dum-dums like G.

Gee, that much? You might be able to what? Build a wall with the savings???

I dunno......

So what happened to the illegals that over stayed their visa? How much do you think that cost and welfare benefits that they are scamming? without any contribution to the government.

Why are you all concentrating your hatred to Mexicans?

The wall stops more than Mexicans.

Overstays must go too

Immigrants = Invided

Illegal Immigrant = uninvited criminal.

 

[Pop23]

We cannot expect americans to do the same jobs illegals do for even close to the same wages. No way no how.

So wages go up. Sounds like a win win.

 

[initforme]

A job an illegal does for 8 bucks an hour shoild turn into 13 bucks an hour for the same job if a citizen does it.