Who Here Stands With Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez?

[BS Filter]

Her supporter-base is made up of mostly Entitlement douchebags. Typical Democrats.

the left claims to be moral enough to be socialist and care about the poor, not just the profit.

The best thing for the poor is an education and a good paying job. Government can't provide that. That's why socialism fails.

The government can’t provide education? Are you high? So tell me. Let’s take government out of the picture. What incentive does the private industry have to educate the poor?

I’m sure they can do a great job educating the wealthy which is why private / prep schools do so well. But tell me how the poor fit into the business model?

Government education is a failure in many urban areas. Dumb and dumber. It's getting worse.

That didn’t even come close to answering my question. Want to try again?

You didn't like my answer. Go look up the dropout rate for Chicago high schools and get back to me.

 

[asaratis]

social democracy includes solving simple poverty; the left has solutions.

Sure they do!

That's why California is the most poverty stricken state in the Union.

All the left does is maintain welfare plantations all over the country. God forbid they should encourage people to get OFF of the government teat!

we really just need a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, unemployment compensation for being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States, and giga-recycling factories to help with social costs.

Why is liberal California the poverty capital of America?

 

[Slade3200]

the left claims to be moral enough to be socialist and care about the poor, not just the profit.

The best thing for the poor is an education and a good paying job. Government can't provide that. That's why socialism fails.

The government can’t provide education? Are you high? So tell me. Let’s take government out of the picture. What incentive does the private industry have to educate the poor?

I’m sure they can do a great job educating the wealthy which is why private / prep schools do so well. But tell me how the poor fit into the business model?

Government education is a failure in many urban areas. Dumb and dumber. It's getting worse.

That didn’t even come close to answering my question. Want to try again?

You didn't like my answer. Go look up the dropout rate for Chicago high schools and get back to me.

It’s not that I didn’t lkke your answer, it’s that you didn’t answer my question. I asked how educating the poor fits into the business model of a private company. Please explain how that would work.

 

[BS Filter]

The best thing for the poor is an education and a good paying job. Government can't provide that. That's why socialism fails.

The government can’t provide education? Are you high? So tell me. Let’s take government out of the picture. What incentive does the private industry have to educate the poor?

I’m sure they can do a great job educating the wealthy which is why private / prep schools do so well. But tell me how the poor fit into the business model?

Government education is a failure in many urban areas. Dumb and dumber. It's getting worse.

That didn’t even come close to answering my question. Want to try again?

You didn't like my answer. Go look up the dropout rate for Chicago high schools and get back to me.

It’s not that I didn’t lkke your answer, it’s that you didn’t answer my question. I asked how educating the poor fits into the business model of a private company. Please explain how that would work.

Dumb question. Businesses aren't in the education business. They could be in the on the job training business for their particular field.

 

[EverCurious]

danielpalos

You're entire theory essentially relies on a belief that "greed" only exists in "capitalist's" (the rich, wealthy, business peeps, etc) That is patently false. You can huff and puff about being "more moral" by "providing" a "good life" for every American (or human) all you want, but the reality is that people, in general, are proven to be both lazy and greedy and will take the easiest path 99% of the time. You cannot support a nation on these principles because the tax money dries up real fast when no one bothers to work.

EDIT: You can actually see the above principle in action when it comes to our public education - For example, it's not that our K-12 schools are not free and available; it's that the students drop out or fail to apply themselves to the "goal" of graduation. It's also not necessarily that the "education sucks" either, when's the last time any employer has asked any new hire about basic HS knowledge? Employers just want to see the piece of paper, the diploma, that say's Hey this kid was dedicated to graduating and put in the effort. The actual information learned in school, even college, is 90% quasi useless bullshit and 10% actual usable on the job information. They want to see proof of effort.

You are basically talking about a "Star Trek" fantasy economy, problem is we can't just replicate everything everyone needs for free. Every bit of what you want [that "quality of life"] costs money; money that won't magically appear simply because you want to do the "moral thing" for folks. EVEN if you completely got rid of the "trading money for labor" model we use, (aka straight up communism where the gov controls all jobs and shit) the gov would /still/ have to pay for many products and a foreign government which produces them (while American's sit on their asses) isn't going to accept your "moral currency" in trade - further that is an idea that 100% turns every citizen of the country into a slave of the government...


Start with this decent primer that goes fairly in depth about why supply side economics has made America one of the wealthiest nations on the planet, also touches upon how capitalism has massively reduced global poverty, which is a real and proven "morally good" argument.

 

[Slade3200]

The government can’t provide education? Are you high? So tell me. Let’s take government out of the picture. What incentive does the private industry have to educate the poor?

I’m sure they can do a great job educating the wealthy which is why private / prep schools do so well. But tell me how the poor fit into the business model?

Government education is a failure in many urban areas. Dumb and dumber. It's getting worse.

That didn’t even come close to answering my question. Want to try again?

You didn't like my answer. Go look up the dropout rate for Chicago high schools and get back to me.

It’s not that I didn’t lkke your answer, it’s that you didn’t answer my question. I asked how educating the poor fits into the business model of a private company. Please explain how that would work.

Dumb question. Businesses aren't in the education business. They could be in the on the job training business for their particular field.

Talk about dumb, Read you’re own posts! There are plenty of private schools and universities, they are amongst the best in the world. But you are trying to make the point that government can’t provide education. Now you say private business aren’t in education. So please tell us how we educate the poor in our country. What’s your plan?

 

[rightwinger]

Her platform makes sense

A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage and unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed; ensures Capital can circulate under our form of Capitalism. Market friendliness, not just social friendliness!

A massive increase in minimum wage is long overdue

So the Left lied about $15.

Who woulda thunk.

Let's make it $10,000/hr so we don't have to hear this for at least a year.

Let’s give them the spending power they had before Republicans held minimum wage hostage

Tell that to the thousands who lost their jobs when it went to $15.

You Commies are all alike.

I hear the same bullshit every time wages are raised

Do they fire people when their rent or utilities are raised?

 

[rightwinger]

Fox news has conservatives trained like dogs. You guys just hate whoever they tell you to hate.

Nancy Pelosi
Hillary Clinton
David Hogg
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

Owe-bama

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Simple poverty....

lol. I have an Argument and You don't.

Unemployment compensation for being unemployed in our at-will employment States solves for simple poverty.

Let's say fourteen dollars an hour for simply being unemployed.

No homeless person would be worse off.

Let's say fourteen dollars an hour for simply being unemployed.

Let's say no.

no arguments?

You make one first. It has to make economic sense. GO!

You have to have economic sense not just Talk economic sense, right wingers.

lol. I have an Argument and You don't.

Unemployment compensation for being unemployed in our at-will employment States solves for simple poverty.

Let's say fourteen dollars an hour for simply being unemployed.

No homeless person would be worse off.

lol. I have an Argument and You don't.

Handouts to people who don't work, who don't want to work, who never paid into the unemployment insurance system, just because they're unemployed, isn't an argument.

Unemployment compensation for being unemployed in our at-will employment States solves for simple poverty.​

Handouts for not working will not solve poverty. They will incentivize sloth, they will reduce GDP and they will massively increase government spending. Then they'll be ended and we'll be worse off than before, and you'll still be broke, sleeping on someone's couch.​

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Let's say fourteen dollars an hour for simply being unemployed.​

Let's not.​

 

[rightwinger]

Who Here Stands With Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez?

--LOL

maybe the DNC will ask her to pay some dues and tow some Party line regarding the Democrat platform.

Tow some line where ?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage is a cost of living adjustment.

A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage will cause many unskilled/low-skilled workers to be unemployable.

Unemployment compensation for being unemployed in our at-will employment States solves for simple poverty.

Huge spending programs that also reduce the incentive to work will harm our economy.

and giga-recycling "factories" help with social costs by creating a market for repurposable goods.

Feel free to invest your weed earnings in that.​

A cost of living adjustment, a solution for simple poverty, and a sustainable solution for our environment.

For the People! Not the capital Profit!

A cost of living adjustment, a solution for simple poverty,

An expensive handout that incentivizes sloth. Nope.

No, it doesn't. Higher paid labor pays more in taxes and creates more in demand.

Stop complaining about the poor not paying their share of Taxes, right wingers.

No, it doesn't.

Yes, it incentivizes sloth.

Higher paid labor pays more in taxes and creates more in demand.

You've increased costs and increased demand. You've reduced supply.
How high should we let inflation get before you realize your error?​

Stop complaining about the poor not paying their share of Taxes

The poor have a negative tax rate.

There is no unemployment only underpayment. Seattle and San Francisco prove that, not sloth.

There is no unemployment only underpayment

There is unemployment. It's exacerbated by overpayment.

It you mandate a $15 minimum wage, people who add less than $15/hour in value will be freshly unemployed.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

social democracy includes solving simple poverty; the left has solutions.

Sure they do!

That's why California is the most poverty stricken state in the Union.

All the left does is maintain welfare plantations all over the country. God forbid they should encourage people to get OFF of the government teat!

we really just need a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, unemployment compensation for being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States, and giga-recycling factories to help with social costs.

unemployment compensation for being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States,

Quitting your job or never having one doesn't entitle you to $14 an hour. And it never will.

 

[rightwinger]

Coming from the party that tried to stick us with Sarah Palin

Occasio- Cortez will do just fine

 

[BS Filter]

Government education is a failure in many urban areas. Dumb and dumber. It's getting worse.

That didn’t even come close to answering my question. Want to try again?

You didn't like my answer. Go look up the dropout rate for Chicago high schools and get back to me.

It’s not that I didn’t lkke your answer, it’s that you didn’t answer my question. I asked how educating the poor fits into the business model of a private company. Please explain how that would work.

Dumb question. Businesses aren't in the education business. They could be in the on the job training business for their particular field.

Talk about dumb, Read you’re own posts! There are plenty of private schools and universities, they are amongst the best in the world. But you are trying to make the point that government can’t provide education. Now you say private business aren’t in education. So please tell us how we educate the poor in our country. What’s your plan?

It's not the Federal government's job to educate people. Where did you ever get that idea? The local community can educate their children. That's their responsibility.

 

[Weatherman2020]

A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage and unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed; ensures Capital can circulate under our form of Capitalism. Market friendliness, not just social friendliness!

A massive increase in minimum wage is long overdue

So the Left lied about $15.

Who woulda thunk.

Let's make it $10,000/hr so we don't have to hear this for at least a year.

Let’s give them the spending power they had before Republicans held minimum wage hostage

Tell that to the thousands who lost their jobs when it went to $15.

You Commies are all alike.

I hear the same bullshit every time wages are raised

Do they fire people when their rent or utilities are raised?

Shall I bury you with MSM stories of people fired because the min wage went up?

 

[Slade3200]

That didn’t even come close to answering my question. Want to try again?

You didn't like my answer. Go look up the dropout rate for Chicago high schools and get back to me.

It’s not that I didn’t lkke your answer, it’s that you didn’t answer my question. I asked how educating the poor fits into the business model of a private company. Please explain how that would work.

Dumb question. Businesses aren't in the education business. They could be in the on the job training business for their particular field.

Talk about dumb, Read you’re own posts! There are plenty of private schools and universities, they are amongst the best in the world. But you are trying to make the point that government can’t provide education. Now you say private business aren’t in education. So please tell us how we educate the poor in our country. What’s your plan?

It's not the Federal government's job to educate people. Where did you ever get that idea? The local community can educate their children. That's their responsibility.

When you say local community do you mean the local government or something else?

 

[rightwinger]

That didn’t even come close to answering my question. Want to try again?

You didn't like my answer. Go look up the dropout rate for Chicago high schools and get back to me.

It’s not that I didn’t lkke your answer, it’s that you didn’t answer my question. I asked how educating the poor fits into the business model of a private company. Please explain how that would work.

Dumb question. Businesses aren't in the education business. They could be in the on the job training business for their particular field.

Talk about dumb, Read you’re own posts! There are plenty of private schools and universities, they are amongst the best in the world. But you are trying to make the point that government can’t provide education. Now you say private business aren’t in education. So please tell us how we educate the poor in our country. What’s your plan?

It's not the Federal government's job to educate people. Where did you ever get that idea? The local community can educate their children. That's their responsibility.

It is the responsibility of every level of government

 

[BS Filter]

You didn't like my answer. Go look up the dropout rate for Chicago high schools and get back to me.

It’s not that I didn’t lkke your answer, it’s that you didn’t answer my question. I asked how educating the poor fits into the business model of a private company. Please explain how that would work.

Dumb question. Businesses aren't in the education business. They could be in the on the job training business for their particular field.

Talk about dumb, Read you’re own posts! There are plenty of private schools and universities, they are amongst the best in the world. But you are trying to make the point that government can’t provide education. Now you say private business aren’t in education. So please tell us how we educate the poor in our country. What’s your plan?

It's not the Federal government's job to educate people. Where did you ever get that idea? The local community can educate their children. That's their responsibility.

When you say local community do you mean the local government or something else?

The city. Could be the county in rural areas.

 

[danielpalos]

social democracy includes solving simple poverty; the left has solutions.

Sure they do!

That's why California is the most poverty stricken state in the Union.

All the left does is maintain welfare plantations all over the country. God forbid they should encourage people to get OFF of the government teat!

we really just need a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, unemployment compensation for being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States, and giga-recycling factories to help with social costs.

Why is liberal California the poverty capital of America?

Cost of living. Labor needs an adjustment in favor of the People.

And,

higher paid labor pay more in Taxes and create more in Demand.

we really just need a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, unemployment compensation for being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States, and giga-recycling factories to help with social costs.

 

[Slade3200]

It’s not that I didn’t lkke your answer, it’s that you didn’t answer my question. I asked how educating the poor fits into the business model of a private company. Please explain how that would work.

Dumb question. Businesses aren't in the education business. They could be in the on the job training business for their particular field.

Talk about dumb, Read you’re own posts! There are plenty of private schools and universities, they are amongst the best in the world. But you are trying to make the point that government can’t provide education. Now you say private business aren’t in education. So please tell us how we educate the poor in our country. What’s your plan?

It's not the Federal government's job to educate people. Where did you ever get that idea? The local community can educate their children. That's their responsibility.

When you say local community do you mean the local government or something else?

The city. Could be the county in rural areas.

City and county governments, right? Is that what you’re talking about?