Who liberals really are and who liberals are according to the rightwing never really matches

[TemplarKormac]

Simply one example of many that want to be taken care of by government.

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So why doesnt anyone on this forum say that? You can't find an example of it and you know it.

Remember that teabagger protestor who had that protest sign: "Get your government hands off my Medicare!"? Do you agree with him?

Nope, I think medicare should be abolished. Government money is one of the main drivers of health care costs. Just like it drives the costs of college. Stop the gravy train and costs will go down.

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So....how would the disabled and poor people get healthcare?

Do you notice how you never hear liberals talk about how everyone should be on welfare and the government should take care of them instead? It's because they don't.

So, that reply above is a liberal (YOU) advocating for government regulation of healthcare.

Actually he is arguing for federal government provided health care, not just regulation.

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Either way, he blew his thread to hell.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Proud to be LIberal!!!!

Who conservatives really are? Well, they're a bunch of 1% cock sucking idiots that don't believe in modern society. They're pretty much the same creature as they were doing the French revolution as the upper class and nobility and supporters of the nobility.

Ad hominem. Charming. Was that the best argument you had?

 

[Dragonlady]

Do you notice how you never hear liberals, in general, talk about "safe spaces" or "being triggered"? It's because they don't. Those are just terms heard on random college campuses in news stories and then the rightwing, in their simplistic thought processes, generalize liberals as talking about these things? I had never heard those terms until some republicans on this forum explained them.

Do you notice how you never hear liberals talk about how everyone should be on welfare and the government should take care of them instead? It's because they don't.

Do you notice how you never hear liberals say gay people should have special rights? It's because they don't.

Do you notice how liberals never say we should ban all guns?

You get the idea.

A liberal in reality is someone that believes in a mixed economy(social democracy), fairness for all and believes in the humanist ideas of education, science and self betterment.

What the far right thinks we're are a bunch of cuban or soviet style Leninist that want the same thing as Lenin in the USSR. Pretty much a massive state dictatorship that wants to control every element of production and force people to conform to the will of the thugs at the top to get to the governmentless dream of Marx that never comes to past. They say of course that they care about the little guy but truly never have...

Liberals love capitalism
Liberals love political freedom
Liberals love freedom

Liberals of course believe in a public sector and investment in ones country!

I'd take up arms against a real Lenin/marxist state dictatorship.

Here's the thing: The Democrat party has been hijacked by far-left non-liberal leftists.

So when a "righty" sees "liberal" they immediately assume it's a far leftist which may or may not be the case.

Even some of the snowflake leftists call themselves liberals when they are actually Cultural Marxists or Leftist Communo-Anarchists. They don't make the distinction among themselves either, thereby adding to the confusion.

The American Democratic Party would be a Conservative party in any country BUT the US. What it is NOT is a radical left wing party. It is a centrist party.

The US is a radical right wing country. The Repubilcan Party is the radical fringe group.

 

[Mr Natural]

Right wingers tend to be assholes.

Good.

I'm glad the leftardz think so.

Brainwashed, misinformed, angry, ignorant old white rural rubes. My people!!

One has to wonder what they're always so pissed off about!

They live out there in paradise: No traffic, no rat-race, affordable housing, low taxes, and nothing but white folk for miles and miles around. Seems like easy living.

So why all the anger?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Do you notice how you never hear liberals, in general, talk about "safe spaces" or "being triggered"? It's because they don't. Those are just terms heard on random college campuses in news stories and then the rightwing, in their simplistic thought processes, generalize liberals as talking about these things? I had never heard those terms until some republicans on this forum explained them.

Do you notice how you never hear liberals talk about how everyone should be on welfare and the government should take care of them instead? It's because they don't.

Do you notice how you never hear liberals say gay people should have special rights? It's because they don't.

Do you notice how liberals never say we should ban all guns?

You get the idea.

Dems could care less about the people. They have you fooled though.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Do you notice how you never hear liberals, in general, talk about "safe spaces" or "being triggered"? It's because they don't. Those are just terms heard on random college campuses in news stories and then the rightwing, in their simplistic thought processes, generalize liberals as talking about these things? I had never heard those terms until some republicans on this forum explained them.

Do you notice how you never hear liberals talk about how everyone should be on welfare and the government should take care of them instead? It's because they don't.

Do you notice how you never hear liberals say gay people should have special rights? It's because they don't.

Do you notice how liberals never say we should ban all guns?

You get the idea.

A liberal in reality is someone that believes in a mixed economy(social democracy), fairness for all and believes in the humanist ideas of education, science and self betterment.

What the far right thinks we're are a bunch of cuban or soviet style Leninist that want the same thing as Lenin in the USSR. Pretty much a massive state dictatorship that wants to control every element of production and force people to conform to the will of the thugs at the top to get to the governmentless dream of Marx that never comes to past. They say of course that they care about the little guy but truly never have...

Liberals love capitalism
Liberals love political freedom
Liberals love freedom

Liberals of course believe in a public sector and investment in ones country!

I'd take up arms against a real Lenin/marxist state dictatorship.

Here's the thing: The Democrat party has been hijacked by far-left non-liberal leftists.

So when a "righty" sees "liberal" they immediately assume it's a far leftist which may or may not be the case.

Even some of the snowflake leftists call themselves liberals when they are actually Cultural Marxists or Leftist Communo-Anarchists. They don't make the distinction among themselves either, thereby adding to the confusion.

The American Democratic Party would be a Conservative party in any country BUT the US. What it is NOT is a radical left wing party. It is a centrist party.

The US is a radical right wing country. The Repubilcan Party is the radical fringe group.

You know so much that isn't so.

As you said: "
The US is a radical right wing country" therefore there's not much place for insane, illogical leftists.

Liberals are OK, there are few in the Democratic party.

Liberals are centrist and open to discussion.

Most members of the Democrat party are like this:

PS: They'd be hating on that woman for "cultural appropriation".

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Do you notice how you never hear liberals, in general, talk about "safe spaces" or "being triggered"? It's because they don't. Those are just terms heard on random college campuses in news stories and then the rightwing, in their simplistic thought processes, generalize liberals as talking about these things? I had never heard those terms until some republicans on this forum explained them.

Do you notice how you never hear liberals talk about how everyone should be on welfare and the government should take care of them instead? It's because they don't.

Do you notice how you never hear liberals say gay people should have special rights? It's because they don't.

Do you notice how liberals never say we should ban all guns?

You get the idea.

A liberal in reality is someone that believes in a mixed economy(social democracy), fairness for all and believes in the humanist ideas of education, science and self betterment.

What the far right thinks we're are a bunch of cuban or soviet style Leninist that want the same thing as Lenin in the USSR. Pretty much a massive state dictatorship that wants to control every element of production and force people to conform to the will of the thugs at the top to get to the governmentless dream of Marx that never comes to past. They say of course that they care about the little guy but truly never have...

Liberals love capitalism
Liberals love political freedom
Liberals love freedom

Liberals of course believe in a public sector and investment in ones country!

I'd take up arms against a real Lenin/marxist state dictatorship.

Here's the thing: The Democrat party has been hijacked by far-left non-liberal leftists.

So when a "righty" sees "liberal" they immediately assume it's a far leftist which may or may not be the case.

Even some of the snowflake leftists call themselves liberals when they are actually Cultural Marxists or Leftist Communo-Anarchists. They don't make the distinction among themselves either, thereby adding to the confusion.

Simply not true. If it were, Clinton would not have been the nominee. There is no Democratic equivalent of the Tea Party or any organized movement driving them to the left as there has been on the Republican side.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

I don't believe everyone should be on welfare! In fact I believe in education, jobs programs and a strong capitalist economy to put most of the population into good paying jobs. Now if you're disabled to the point where you can't work at all I do have a heart for you.

I don't believe that gays or transgender people should have special rights...But they should have rights like everyone else.

I believe in the second amendment.

Absolutely. People need a leg up not a hand out.
Let's raise wages so no one needs assistance.

Here Is The Draft Of The 2016 Democratic Platform | HuffPost
“Democrats believe we must restore the basic bargain that built America’s mighty middle class: If you work hard and play by the rules, you can get ahead and stay ahead, provided we break down certain barriers,” reads the document. “The system isn’t working when we have a rigged economy in which ordinary Americans work longer hours for lower wages, while most new income and wealth goes to the top one percent."

 

[Marion Morrison]

Do you notice how you never hear liberals, in general, talk about "safe spaces" or "being triggered"? It's because they don't. Those are just terms heard on random college campuses in news stories and then the rightwing, in their simplistic thought processes, generalize liberals as talking about these things? I had never heard those terms until some republicans on this forum explained them.

Do you notice how you never hear liberals talk about how everyone should be on welfare and the government should take care of them instead? It's because they don't.

Do you notice how you never hear liberals say gay people should have special rights? It's because they don't.

Do you notice how liberals never say we should ban all guns?

You get the idea.

A liberal in reality is someone that believes in a mixed economy(social democracy), fairness for all and believes in the humanist ideas of education, science and self betterment.

What the far right thinks we're are a bunch of cuban or soviet style Leninist that want the same thing as Lenin in the USSR. Pretty much a massive state dictatorship that wants to control every element of production and force people to conform to the will of the thugs at the top to get to the governmentless dream of Marx that never comes to past. They say of course that they care about the little guy but truly never have...

Liberals love capitalism
Liberals love political freedom
Liberals love freedom

Liberals of course believe in a public sector and investment in ones country!

I'd take up arms against a real Lenin/marxist state dictatorship.

Here's the thing: The Democrat party has been hijacked by far-left non-liberal leftists.

So when a "righty" sees "liberal" they immediately assume it's a far leftist which may or may not be the case.

Even some of the snowflake leftists call themselves liberals when they are actually Cultural Marxists or Leftist Communo-Anarchists. They don't make the distinction among themselves either, thereby adding to the confusion.

Simply not true. If it were, Clinton would not have been the nominee. There is no Democratic equivalent of the Tea Party or any organized movement driving them to the left as there has been on the Republican side.

What they and what they do is two different things.

They say that ^

and do this:

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Do you notice how you never hear liberals, in general, talk about "safe spaces" or "being triggered"? It's because they don't. Those are just terms heard on random college campuses in news stories and then the rightwing, in their simplistic thought processes, generalize liberals as talking about these things? I had never heard those terms until some republicans on this forum explained them.

Do you notice how you never hear liberals talk about how everyone should be on welfare and the government should take care of them instead? It's because they don't.

Do you notice how you never hear liberals say gay people should have special rights? It's because they don't.

Do you notice how liberals never say we should ban all guns?

You get the idea.

Really?



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So just so we are clear, you take an anecdotal example and then apply it to an entire group of people based on nothing? God no wonder you vote republican.

Simply one example of many that want to be taken care of by government.

.

So why doesnt anyone on this forum say that? You can't find an example of it and you know it.

Remember that teabagger protestor who had that protest sign: "Get your government hands off my Medicare!"? Do you agree with him?

Nope, I think medicare should be abolished. Government money is one of the main drivers of health care costs. Just like it drives the costs of college. Stop the gravy train and costs will go down.

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Government money is one of the main drivers of health care costs.

You have to explain that one.
Medicare and Medicaid control costs.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Do you notice how you never hear liberals, in general, talk about "safe spaces" or "being triggered"? It's because they don't. Those are just terms heard on random college campuses in news stories and then the rightwing, in their simplistic thought processes, generalize liberals as talking about these things? I had never heard those terms until some republicans on this forum explained them.

Do you notice how you never hear liberals talk about how everyone should be on welfare and the government should take care of them instead? It's because they don't.

Do you notice how you never hear liberals say gay people should have special rights? It's because they don't.

Do you notice how liberals never say we should ban all guns?

You get the idea.

A liberal in reality is someone that believes in a mixed economy(social democracy), fairness for all and believes in the humanist ideas of education, science and self betterment.

What the far right thinks we're are a bunch of cuban or soviet style Leninist that want the same thing as Lenin in the USSR. Pretty much a massive state dictatorship that wants to control every element of production and force people to conform to the will of the thugs at the top to get to the governmentless dream of Marx that never comes to past. They say of course that they care about the little guy but truly never have...

Liberals love capitalism
Liberals love political freedom
Liberals love freedom

Liberals of course believe in a public sector and investment in ones country!

I'd take up arms against a real Lenin/marxist state dictatorship.

Here's the thing: The Democrat party has been hijacked by far-left non-liberal leftists.

So when a "righty" sees "liberal" they immediately assume it's a far leftist which may or may not be the case.

Even some of the snowflake leftists call themselves liberals when they are actually Cultural Marxists or Leftist Communo-Anarchists. They don't make the distinction among themselves either, thereby adding to the confusion.

There is no confusion. Bernie Sanders is an open socialist and all of the energy in the Democratic Party is with him. The Democrats spied for Joseph Stalin and gave him the bomb and they always want more and more government no matter how big the government already has. What on earth does that say if not that liberals are communist, although many of them lack the IQ to know what they really are supporting.

There is no confusion. Bernie Sanders is an open socialist and all of the energy in the Democratic Party is with him.

As evidenced by his nomination.

 

[hadit]

Do you notice how you never hear liberals, in general, talk about "safe spaces" or "being triggered"? It's because they don't. Those are just terms heard on random college campuses in news stories and then the rightwing, in their simplistic thought processes, generalize liberals as talking about these things? I had never heard those terms until some republicans on this forum explained them.

Do you notice how you never hear liberals talk about how everyone should be on welfare and the government should take care of them instead? It's because they don't.

Do you notice how you never hear liberals say gay people should have special rights? It's because they don't.

Do you notice how liberals never say we should ban all guns?

You get the idea.

IOW, you've discovered something the right has known for a very long time, that there are a lot of mind readers out there who think they know exactly what other people are thinking and what they really mean, no matter what they actually say.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Do you notice how you never hear liberals, in general, talk about "safe spaces" or "being triggered"? It's because they don't. Those are just terms heard on random college campuses in news stories and then the rightwing, in their simplistic thought processes, generalize liberals as talking about these things? I had never heard those terms until some republicans on this forum explained them.

Do you notice how you never hear liberals talk about how everyone should be on welfare and the government should take care of them instead? It's because they don't.

Do you notice how you never hear liberals say gay people should have special rights? It's because they don't.

Do you notice how liberals never say we should ban all guns?

You get the idea.

A liberal in reality is someone that believes in a mixed economy(social democracy), fairness for all and believes in the humanist ideas of education, science and self betterment.

What the far right thinks we're are a bunch of cuban or soviet style Leninist that want the same thing as Lenin in the USSR. Pretty much a massive state dictatorship that wants to control every element of production and force people to conform to the will of the thugs at the top to get to the governmentless dream of Marx that never comes to past. They say of course that they care about the little guy but truly never have...

Liberals love capitalism
Liberals love political freedom
Liberals love freedom

Liberals of course believe in a public sector and investment in ones country!

I'd take up arms against a real Lenin/marxist state dictatorship.

Here's the thing: The Democrat party has been hijacked by far-left non-liberal leftists.

So when a "righty" sees "liberal" they immediately assume it's a far leftist which may or may not be the case.

Even some of the snowflake leftists call themselves liberals when they are actually Cultural Marxists or Leftist Communo-Anarchists. They don't make the distinction among themselves either, thereby adding to the confusion.

Simply not true. If it were, Clinton would not have been the nominee. There is no Democratic equivalent of the Tea Party or any organized movement driving them to the left as there has been on the Republican side.

What they and what they do is two different things.

They say that ^

and do this:

Nice straw man. Protesters are not the party.
Clinton was to the right of Obama. I haven't seen a huge ideological shift among Dem presidents or candidates since Kennedy. The mission and message hasn't changed in my lifetime. Just as the OP suggested, you're dealing in stereotypes.

 

[Marion Morrison]

A woman who is tired, has a headache, has a backache, etc, doesn't sound like someone who can fulfill a man's needs. It sounds like her own cry for help.

Could it be a signal for the man to ask what he can do to help?

Women are luckier than guys -- all they need is some buttering up and they are good to go.

They don't need the high blood pressure arousal to perform.

They can just lie there -- like they have been for tens of thousands of years.

Headache or not.

BTW coffee cures headaches.

So does a Bloody Mary.

Oh, they only want "just laying there" sex! That's a different thing altogether. Just let her get comfortable, and either don't block her view of the tv, or be careful not to jostle the novel out of her hand.

And here I thought the issue was intimacy.

Do you notice how you never hear liberals, in general, talk about "safe spaces" or "being triggered"? It's because they don't. Those are just terms heard on random college campuses in news stories and then the rightwing, in their simplistic thought processes, generalize liberals as talking about these things? I had never heard those terms until some republicans on this forum explained them.

Do you notice how you never hear liberals talk about how everyone should be on welfare and the government should take care of them instead? It's because they don't.

Do you notice how you never hear liberals say gay people should have special rights? It's because they don't.

Do you notice how liberals never say we should ban all guns?

You get the idea.

A liberal in reality is someone that believes in a mixed economy(social democracy), fairness for all and believes in the humanist ideas of education, science and self betterment.

What the far right thinks we're are a bunch of cuban or soviet style Leninist that want the same thing as Lenin in the USSR. Pretty much a massive state dictatorship that wants to control every element of production and force people to conform to the will of the thugs at the top to get to the governmentless dream of Marx that never comes to past. They say of course that they care about the little guy but truly never have...

Liberals love capitalism
Liberals love political freedom
Liberals love freedom

Liberals of course believe in a public sector and investment in ones country!

I'd take up arms against a real Lenin/marxist state dictatorship.

Here's the thing: The Democrat party has been hijacked by far-left non-liberal leftists.

So when a "righty" sees "liberal" they immediately assume it's a far leftist which may or may not be the case.

Even some of the snowflake leftists call themselves liberals when they are actually Cultural Marxists or Leftist Communo-Anarchists. They don't make the distinction among themselves either, thereby adding to the confusion.

Simply not true. If it were, Clinton would not have been the nominee. There is no Democratic equivalent of the Tea Party or any organized movement driving them to the left as there has been on the Republican side.

What they and what they do is two different things.

They say that ^

and do this:

Nice straw man. Protesters are not the party.
Clinton was to the right of Obama. I haven't seen a huge ideological shift among Dem presidents or candidates since Kennedy. The mission and message hasn't changed in my lifetime. Just as the OP suggested, you're dealing in stereotypes.

No, I'm dealing in reality.

 

[Mac1958]

Do you notice how you never hear liberals, in general, talk about "safe spaces" or "being triggered"? It's because they don't. Those are just terms heard on random college campuses in news stories and then the rightwing, in their simplistic thought processes, generalize liberals as talking about these things? I had never heard those terms until some republicans on this forum explained them.

Do you notice how you never hear liberals talk about how everyone should be on welfare and the government should take care of them instead? It's because they don't.

Do you notice how you never hear liberals say gay people should have special rights? It's because they don't.

Do you notice how liberals never say we should ban all guns?

You get the idea.

Partisans on both ends of the spectrum tend to distort the words of partisans on the other end, and do everything they can to turn them into easily-belittled caricatures.

This website almost certainly does not have the bandwidth to provide all the examples of that.

We all know this, right?

One of the primary reasons why partisans on both ends of the spectrum have zero credibility, and on balance cause far more harm to our country than good.
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[Hutch Starskey]

So why doesnt anyone on this forum say that? You can't find an example of it and you know it.

Remember that teabagger protestor who had that protest sign: "Get your government hands off my Medicare!"? Do you agree with him?

Nope, I think medicare should be abolished. Government money is one of the main drivers of health care costs. Just like it drives the costs of college. Stop the gravy train and costs will go down.

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So....how would the disabled and poor people get healthcare?

Medicaid, payed by the States or private organizations. It's not a federal function. This is what Madison, the father of the Constitution said on such topics.

The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government, are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce; with which last the power of taxation will, for the most part, be connected. The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State. -James Madison Federalist 45

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Um, okay. So how would the disabled and poor get healthcare?

Your understanding of how the world actually works is utterly pathetic....but you have a lot of company. I don't blame you personally, you are simply a by-product of a horrifically ran indoctrination program that we refer to as "public education". I could go into a long ass dissertation about how it got to this level, how critical thinking skills became a liability and cognitive dissonance became the norm.....I doubt that you have the intellectual capacity to take all this in because the programming is just that deeply ingrained in you.I have to admit, it was tough for me to shake it off and I wasn't able to take that leap until I was 48 years of age. The "de-programming" process was an ass-kicking ordeal.....like a heroin addict that was a life long user with withdrawal symptoms that caused me to lose weight along with the inability to sleep...but I did it. I compare it to what Marines have to go through during basic training.....they wouldn't go through it again had they known what they were in for, but they are glad that they made it.

"Liberalism" in the true sense of the word was about individual freedom as in "if I am nit infringing on your rights to exist then you have no rights to infringe on mine" kinda deal. They believed in the "Bill of Rights" and what it stood for....but somewhere along the line? The communist infiltration that Joseph McCarthy warned us about took control. McCarthy was proven right 35 plus years later by the release of the Venona papers showed that McCarthy was straight on point. Now? What passes for "liberalism" isn't about individual rights but all about the "collective" and that is a fact that cannot even be disputed. Today's "pseudo liberals" fight against any speech that that they do not approve of. Their motto is straight out of the communist manifesto......"the ends justifies the means". What does that mean? That like Sal Alinsky's "Rules For Radicals"? Whatever it takes justifies doing anything that it takes.....all rules are off the table just so long as it advances the goals of communism.

The pseudo liberals (when they were exposed for the commie faction that they are) tried to re-brand themselves as "progressives"....meaning that anyone that opposed their globalist agenda (bought, paid for and subsidized by the very elites that they claimed to be fighting against) were "regressives". I would laugh loud and long if I was watching this theater being played out on some TV show and how these "progressives" have been used like a cheap whore hooked on heroin that depended on their pimp to provide them with their next "fix" if the implications of their actions only affected those of their ilk.

Billy, (and I say this sincerely) you are one of the "useful idiots" that the globalists (that funded communism to begin with) could not have come this far without idiots like you. Pat yourself on the back.....but herein lies the reality....you will never see that commie utopia in your lifetime nor mine and you can bet the farm on that one.

Hope this helps!!!!

Your understanding of how the world actually works is utterly pathetic....

Says the conspiracy nut.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

“If by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people-their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights and their civil liberties-someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal", then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal.”

― John F. Kennedy, Profiles in Courage

JFK was a conservative Democrat.


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Yep, the quote says so.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

“If by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people-their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights and their civil liberties-someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal", then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal.”

― John F. Kennedy, Profiles in Courage

Oh woe unto you who thinks the liberals of today are of the same stripe as the liberals in the Kennedy era. If the Democrats of today ran on some of the things they ran on when Kennedy was president, I'd be a full blooded Democrat right now. No doubt about it.

I laugh at you.

Sounds pretty familiar to me.I'm not sure what you're talking about.

Democratic Party Platforms: 1960 Democratic Party Platform

 

[BlueGin]

Liberals are nasty little America hating scumbags...that couldn't tell the truth if their life depended on it.

 

[toobfreak]

Billy000, not only is your imagined vision of what liberals really are a fantasy of your own, but you call yourself a democratic socialist, a contradiction in terms. A democrat believes in the will of the people (mob rule), while a socialist believes in total government, where a small group of the elite powerful decide everything, over the will of the people! Maybe if you got even half your statements right, you'd be less confused over liberalism.