who says a President doesn't affect gas prices??

What govt can do to affect how much Americans pay for gas is to require better gas mileage and push for alternative fuels. I don't think Obama is a good potus, and he IS driving up electricity costs, but on gas and transportation .... he's doing all that can be done.

:thup:

And what internet posters can do is stop floating these myths that imply oil is just a faucet that a POTUS chooses how much to flow. All that does is perpetuate the attitude of waste.

Shrub never spoke a more honest sentence than when he said in his SOTU: "America is addicted to oil".

I'm not sure that the admin has pushed to get large trucks using natl gas as TBoone Pickens suggested. I am sure that admin is pushing coal power plants to close and forcing natl gas to be used. I'm ok with not allowing new coal plants to be built, but I'm not sure that shutting them down to reduce CO2 emissions is really gonna make any difference. We'll either go extinct or not. (-:
 
What govt can do to affect how much Americans pay for gas is to require better gas mileage and push for alternative fuels. I don't think Obama is a good potus, and he IS driving up electricity costs, but on gas and transportation .... he's doing all that can be done.

I don't even think removing all the gasoline taxes would lower the costs. The oil companies would just soak up the extra $

I am so pissed at the oil companies right now, I'd go along with nationalizing.
 
This hack president's energy policy is solely responsible for fuel prices being high and the subsequent economic hardships that entails. Every household in the US has thrown over $20 of spending money out the window every day. That's billions collectively our economy is deprived of daily.
When the drilling moratoriums were lifted in July 2008 and September 2008 the potential for enhancement of supply side immediately dropped down prices. Upon obama's immaculation and pronouncement of reimposing those moratoriums and adding further restrictions on leases and fed land extraction, the prices immediately rose and kept rising to the point they are today and have been for most of the hack's term.
Ignore left wing propaganda and look at the reality. Our economy is deprived of over a trillion dollars annually by this hack and his left wing sheeple minions.

Pfft. Oil doesn't work on a simple supply and demand model. Thanks for playin'. :eusa_hand:

Yes, it does, left wing propagandist. As a commodity, it's especially subject to supply volatility. This hack president is holding down this economy through fossil fuel supply stifling.
 
What govt can do to affect how much Americans pay for gas is to require better gas mileage and push for alternative fuels. I don't think Obama is a good potus, and he IS driving up electricity costs, but on gas and transportation .... he's doing all that can be done.

I don't even think removing all the gasoline taxes would lower the costs. The oil companies would just soak up the extra $

I am so pissed at the oil companies right now, I'd go along with nationalizing.

I guess you must have liked them when they intentionally dropped prices by 70%.
 
As of Oct. 2012 the oil/gas industry was holding 3700 UNUSED drilling leases in the Gulf of Mexico alone.

Would you care to know how many other UNUSED leases they hold in the US?

lol, look it up.

http://democrats.naturalresources.h.../files/documents/2012-10-19_UseItOrLoseIt.pdf

I DID AND THIS IS WHAT I FOUND OUT... "don't contain productive drilling operations"... MEANS they are not worth the expense...
but of course these evil oil companies they should be doing this for free because well hell let's just nationalize them ...!!! Yea like Venezuela!

So, there are 68 million acres of leased land on which companies aren’t extracting oil, but Obama went too far when he said oil companies "haven’t touched" them. As Bureau of Land Management Petroleum Engineer Bill Gewecke, who manages the onshore sites, told us, he "wouldn’t say untouched, would say undeveloped."
That’s because these leased lands that don’t contain productive drilling operations likely are not lying idle as Obama implies. There are a lot of steps and procedures involved in setting up a productive oil well on leased land, both onshore and off. The Bureau of Land Management’s Web site lists the regulatory hurdles that need to be cleared as part of the larger five-step life cycle of a well. The path to setting up an offshore drilling operation is even longer, as shown in a large flow chart developed by the MMS.
Unused Offshore Potential?
 
This hack president's energy policy is solely responsible for fuel prices being high and the subsequent economic hardships that entails. Every household in the US has thrown over $20 of spending money out the window every day. That's billions collectively our economy is deprived of daily.
When the drilling moratoriums were lifted in July 2008 and September 2008 the potential for enhancement of supply side immediately dropped down prices. Upon obama's immaculation and pronouncement of reimposing those moratoriums and adding further restrictions on leases and fed land extraction, the prices immediately rose and kept rising to the point they are today and have been for most of the hack's term.
Ignore left wing propaganda and look at the reality. Our economy is deprived of over a trillion dollars annually by this hack and his left wing sheeple minions.

Pfft. Oil doesn't work on a simple supply and demand model. Thanks for playin'. :eusa_hand:

Yes, it does, left wing propagandist. As a commodity, it's especially subject to supply volatility. This hack president is holding down this economy through fossil fuel supply stifling.

Absolute ignoramia bullshit. Oil prices are set on the international market. You put your extra barrels out there, OPEC just cuts back and compensates, you're back where you were. And that's got nothing to do with left, right, or 'wings"; it's how the game is structured, like it or lump it.

Might wanna sit this topic out before you embarrass yourself further.
 
What govt can do to affect how much Americans pay for gas is to require better gas mileage and push for alternative fuels. I don't think Obama is a good potus, and he IS driving up electricity costs, but on gas and transportation .... he's doing all that can be done.

I don't even think removing all the gasoline taxes would lower the costs. The oil companies would just soak up the extra $

I am so pissed at the oil companies right now, I'd go along with nationalizing.

I guess you must have liked them when they intentionally dropped prices by 70%.

Oil companies can't do that. Nor, being profit making enterprises, would they if they could.

As I said.... :dig:
 
Here is a thought of what we could have done. Instead of throwing the stimulus money down a rabbit hole spend it building a refinery on federal land. Even if government owned. Let it be in direct competition with the oil companies. How long before you think they would buy us out? Thus jobs created in building and jobs created in running the plants and supply should increase.
 
doesn't do any good to drill more oil if you don't have the refinery capacity. And oil companies have been closing refineries to keep the price of gas up.
And on top of that the oil monopoly have increased exports of refined oil products!!!
 
from the price of a gallon of gas to the price of oil ... a spinnin' we'll go


and a President has no control of either
 
Oil, for lack of a better term, WORKS. Everyone is doing it. The Chinese, Russians, Indians, and Venezuelans thrive on it. Why should not US? The Pussy Environmentalists go hard at US soft center yet ignore the Global countries embracing OIL.
 
The Obama administration ostensibly supports America’s oil and natural gas boom, but government data shows that they have issued
the lowest number of drilling leases since at least 1988.
The total number of oil and gas drilling leases issued in 2013 reached a nearly three-decade lows, according to the Bureau of Land Management.
The bureau says it issued 1,468 drilling leases last year, totaling 1.17 million acres of federal land — the lowest figures since 1988, which is the oldest year for which the BLM has data.

When it comes to actually approving drilling permits in 2013, the Obama administration approved the lowest number since 2002 — only 3,770 drilling permits. This is down from 6,617 drilling permits that were approved in 2008, the last year of the Bush administration.

In 2013, it took 194 days on average for the BLM to approve oil and gas drilling permits — 99 days on average for companies to fix any problems with their application and 95 days for the BLM to approve the permits after problems have been fixed.

“Compare this to five days in Texas and 25 in North Dakota and it’s no wonder why production on federal lands has gone down,” Warren added.

Overall, U.S. oil production has boomed in recent years, but production on federal lands has been falling.
The Congressional Research Service reports that oil production on federal lands fell from 1,731,500 barrels per day in 2009 to
1,627,400 barrels per day in 2012, and the total share of crude oil produced on federal lands fell to 26 percent in 2012 from 33 percent in 2009.

Obama. leases the lowest amount of federal land in 25 years | The Daily Caller

So if the current gas prices are driven by supply... folks here is ONE distinct area the President can create more supply.. lowering gas prices.
Common sense should tell people that if there continues to be a growing supply the prices would drop.
BUT the federal land production dropping 38 million barrels a year HAS an affect regardless the size.
You have been corrected regarding this lie dozens of times in dozens of threads, and yet you STILL post this lie!

Oil and Gas Industry Sitting on 7,200 Drilling Permits - NYTimes.com

The oil and gas industry has nearly 7,200 permits to drill on public lands that it has yet to use, according to Bureau of Land Management data obtained by Greenwire.

The unused, but still valid, drilling permits paint a starkly different picture from what industry and some in Congress have argued is a concerted effort by the Obama administration to lock up federal lands to energy production, said Dave Alberswerth, senior policy adviser on energy issues for the Wilderness Society and a former Interior Department official in the Clinton administration.

"I don't see how the industry and their allies can maintain with a straight face this fiction that somehow the Obama administration is unduly restricting their access to public lands for drilling when they're sitting on literally thousands of unused drilling permits," he said.

snip/

"This idea that somehow the Obama administration is restricting lands for oil and gas development is just a joke," said Alberswerth of the Wilderness Society.

The gap between issued APDs and new wells spudded seems to be growing, Alberswerth noted. In addition, operators in the Rocky Mountain West, in Wyoming in particular, have begun temporarily stopping the flow of natural gas from wells due to unfavorable prices, he said.

Last October, ConocoPhillips announced it was "shutting in" a small portion of its wells in the hope that prices will rebound in the coming months and years, according to a Reuters report.
 
Can we get some leadership that is not obsessed with taking the $0.07 per gallon profit on a unit price of $3.76 and get leadership that is more focused on things they can control.....like the $0.18 risk-free profit the government TAKES from the American People.
 
Can we get some leadership that is not obsessed with taking the $0.07 per gallon profit on a unit price of $3.76 and get leadership that is more focused on things they can control.....like the $0.18 risk-free profit the government TAKES from the American People.
Are you really gullible enough to believe that the ONLY place where the oil monopoly makes a profit is in the final sale of a gallon of gas????
 
The Obama administration ostensibly supports America’s oil and natural gas boom, but government data shows that they have issued
the lowest number of drilling leases since at least 1988.
The total number of oil and gas drilling leases issued in 2013 reached a nearly three-decade lows, according to the Bureau of Land Management.
The bureau says it issued 1,468 drilling leases last year, totaling 1.17 million acres of federal land — the lowest figures since 1988, which is the oldest year for which the BLM has data.

When it comes to actually approving drilling permits in 2013, the Obama administration approved the lowest number since 2002 — only 3,770 drilling permits. This is down from 6,617 drilling permits that were approved in 2008, the last year of the Bush administration.

In 2013, it took 194 days on average for the BLM to approve oil and gas drilling permits — 99 days on average for companies to fix any problems with their application and 95 days for the BLM to approve the permits after problems have been fixed.

“Compare this to five days in Texas and 25 in North Dakota and it’s no wonder why production on federal lands has gone down,” Warren added.

Overall, U.S. oil production has boomed in recent years, but production on federal lands has been falling.
The Congressional Research Service reports that oil production on federal lands fell from 1,731,500 barrels per day in 2009 to
1,627,400 barrels per day in 2012, and the total share of crude oil produced on federal lands fell to 26 percent in 2012 from 33 percent in 2009.

Obama. leases the lowest amount of federal land in 25 years | The Daily Caller

So if the current gas prices are driven by supply... folks here is ONE distinct area the President can create more supply.. lowering gas prices.
Common sense should tell people that if there continues to be a growing supply the prices would drop.
BUT the federal land production dropping 38 million barrels a year HAS an affect regardless the size.
You people are as nutty as last Christmas' fruit cake and your posts are just as fresh. In one post you condemn Obama for being totally inept and unable to get anything done and in the next post you condemn him for being a political mastermind who, all by himself, dictates gas prices. <sigh> Only in the mind of wing nuts is it possible to be an inept mastermind!!!!
The bottom line is this; When it is a Democrat in the WH the wing nuts say he is responsible for high gas prices and the Democrats say it is not his responsiblity. When a republican is in the WH the wing nuts and the Democrats switch sides in the argument. The same stupidity applies to the stock market and the economy.
 
The Obama administration ostensibly supports America’s oil and natural gas boom, but government data shows that they have issued
the lowest number of drilling leases since at least 1988.
The total number of oil and gas drilling leases issued in 2013 reached a nearly three-decade lows, according to the Bureau of Land Management.
The bureau says it issued 1,468 drilling leases last year, totaling 1.17 million acres of federal land — the lowest figures since 1988, which is the oldest year for which the BLM has data.

When it comes to actually approving drilling permits in 2013, the Obama administration approved the lowest number since 2002 — only 3,770 drilling permits. This is down from 6,617 drilling permits that were approved in 2008, the last year of the Bush administration.

In 2013, it took 194 days on average for the BLM to approve oil and gas drilling permits — 99 days on average for companies to fix any problems with their application and 95 days for the BLM to approve the permits after problems have been fixed.

“Compare this to five days in Texas and 25 in North Dakota and it’s no wonder why production on federal lands has gone down,” Warren added.

Overall, U.S. oil production has boomed in recent years, but production on federal lands has been falling.
The Congressional Research Service reports that oil production on federal lands fell from 1,731,500 barrels per day in 2009 to
1,627,400 barrels per day in 2012, and the total share of crude oil produced on federal lands fell to 26 percent in 2012 from 33 percent in 2009.

Obama. leases the lowest amount of federal land in 25 years | The Daily Caller

So if the current gas prices are driven by supply... folks here is ONE distinct area the President can create more supply.. lowering gas prices.
Common sense should tell people that if there continues to be a growing supply the prices would drop.
BUT the federal land production dropping 38 million barrels a year HAS an affect regardless the size.

But yet Big milestone: U.S. producing more oil than it imports

For the Saudi haters: The majority of US oil imports came from Canada.

The President can't control oil and gasoline prices, both are controlled by rich people in the market.

If you want to lower gasoline prices at the pump, make it illegal to trade gasoline in the market and cap gasoline/diesel prices at $0.40 cents above taxes. After all, at the beginning of the 2000's, regular gasoline was being sold at $1.00 per gallon and the oil companies still made billions in profit/quarter.
 
The Obama administration ostensibly supports America’s oil and natural gas boom, but government data shows that they have issued
the lowest number of drilling leases since at least 1988.
The total number of oil and gas drilling leases issued in 2013 reached a nearly three-decade lows, according to the Bureau of Land Management.
The bureau says it issued 1,468 drilling leases last year, totaling 1.17 million acres of federal land — the lowest figures since 1988, which is the oldest year for which the BLM has data.

When it comes to actually approving drilling permits in 2013, the Obama administration approved the lowest number since 2002 — only 3,770 drilling permits. This is down from 6,617 drilling permits that were approved in 2008, the last year of the Bush administration.

In 2013, it took 194 days on average for the BLM to approve oil and gas drilling permits — 99 days on average for companies to fix any problems with their application and 95 days for the BLM to approve the permits after problems have been fixed.

“Compare this to five days in Texas and 25 in North Dakota and it’s no wonder why production on federal lands has gone down,” Warren added.

Overall, U.S. oil production has boomed in recent years, but production on federal lands has been falling.
The Congressional Research Service reports that oil production on federal lands fell from 1,731,500 barrels per day in 2009 to
1,627,400 barrels per day in 2012, and the total share of crude oil produced on federal lands fell to 26 percent in 2012 from 33 percent in 2009.

Obama. leases the lowest amount of federal land in 25 years | The Daily Caller

So if the current gas prices are driven by supply... folks here is ONE distinct area the President can create more supply.. lowering gas prices.
Common sense should tell people that if there continues to be a growing supply the prices would drop.
BUT the federal land production dropping 38 million barrels a year HAS an affect regardless the size.
You have been corrected regarding this lie dozens of times in dozens of threads, and yet you STILL post this lie!

Oil and Gas Industry Sitting on 7,200 Drilling Permits - NYTimes.com

The oil and gas industry has nearly 7,200 permits to drill on public lands that it has yet to use, according to Bureau of Land Management data obtained by Greenwire.

The unused, but still valid, drilling permits paint a starkly different picture from what industry and some in Congress have argued is a concerted effort by the Obama administration to lock up federal lands to energy production, said Dave Alberswerth, senior policy adviser on energy issues for the Wilderness Society and a former Interior Department official in the Clinton administration.

"I don't see how the industry and their allies can maintain with a straight face this fiction that somehow the Obama administration is unduly restricting their access to public lands for drilling when they're sitting on literally thousands of unused drilling permits," he said.

snip/

"This idea that somehow the Obama administration is restricting lands for oil and gas development is just a joke," said Alberswerth of the Wilderness Society.

The gap between issued APDs and new wells spudded seems to be growing, Alberswerth noted. In addition, operators in the Rocky Mountain West, in Wyoming in particular, have begun temporarily stopping the flow of natural gas from wells due to unfavorable prices, he said.

Last October, ConocoPhillips announced it was "shutting in" a small portion of its wells in the hope that prices will rebound in the coming months and years, according to a Reuters report.

DUMMY READ what the people who know a hell of lot more then you do say about it!!!

So, there are 68 million acres of leased land on which companies aren’t extracting oil,
but Obama went too far when he said oil companies "haven’t touched" them. As Bureau of Land Management Petroleum Engineer Bill Gewecke, who manages the onshore sites, told us, he "wouldn’t say untouched, would say undeveloped."

That’s because these leased lands that don’t contain productive drilling operations likely are not lying idle as Obama implies.
There are a lot of steps and procedures involved in setting up a productive oil well on leased land, both onshore and off. The Bureau of Land Management’s Web site lists the regulatory hurdles that need to be cleared as part of the larger five-step life cycle of a well.
The path to setting up an offshore drilling operation is even longer, as shown in a large flow chart developed by the MMS.
And there is a lot of activity occurring on leased lands that does not qualify as "production."
That’s a total of more than 15,000 holes that were being proposed, started or finished that do not count as "productive" holes.
Unused Offshore Potential?
 
doesn't do any good to drill more oil if you don't have the refinery capacity. And oil companies have been closing refineries to keep the price of gas up.

Link?
Because a) oil companies control all the refining in thsi countrry, and b) they want to sell as little as possible.

It's more like Nobraininthehead.
 
doesn't do any good to drill more oil if you don't have the refinery capacity. And oil companies have been closing refineries to keep the price of gas up.

Link?
Because a) oil companies control all the refining in thsi countrry, and b) they want to sell as little as possible.

It's more like Nobraininthehead.

The topic is "who says a President ..... prices"...
Who appoints the head of government agencies? President.
Who appointed the head of EPA? Obama.

What president in all of USA history ever said this:
Obama said I'd like higher gas prices, just not so quickly" LiveLeak.com - Obama: Id like higher gas prices, just not so quickly
And so Obama hires people that believe that also like Energy secretary Chu, who said in 2008
“Somehow we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe."

In January, Hovensa entered into a consent decree with the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and Justice Department
in which the company agreed to invest $700 million on pollution controls after a series of chemical releases affected people living downwind from the refinery. Hovensa also agreed to pay a $5.4 million penalty for violating the Clean Air Act.

With the additional modification costs and fines, it was no longer economical to operate the refinery and the decision was made to close it.

Hovensa Refinery Closing on St. Croix

This St. Croix refinery could NO LONGER AFFORD primarily due to $700 million more in pollution controls needed to meet EPA!!!
By the way when Hovensa closed this refinery here is what happens:more than 2,000 employees will be dismissed. ...
HOVENSA has 2,150 direct and contract employees, and its operations account for about 20 percent of the territory's gross domestic product.

The refinery's closure represents "at a minimum" a loss of about $60 million in annual tax revenue for the government, from real property taxes and employee income taxes, deJongh said.
HOVENSA closing - News - Virgin Islands Daily News

A stroke of Obama's pen would have stopped that loss of 350,000 barrels per day refinery.
 
The Obama administration ostensibly supports America’s oil and natural gas boom, but government data shows that they have issued
the lowest number of drilling leases since at least 1988.
The total number of oil and gas drilling leases issued in 2013 reached a nearly three-decade lows, according to the Bureau of Land Management.
The bureau says it issued 1,468 drilling leases last year, totaling 1.17 million acres of federal land — the lowest figures since 1988, which is the oldest year for which the BLM has data.

When it comes to actually approving drilling permits in 2013, the Obama administration approved the lowest number since 2002 — only 3,770 drilling permits. This is down from 6,617 drilling permits that were approved in 2008, the last year of the Bush administration.

In 2013, it took 194 days on average for the BLM to approve oil and gas drilling permits — 99 days on average for companies to fix any problems with their application and 95 days for the BLM to approve the permits after problems have been fixed.

“Compare this to five days in Texas and 25 in North Dakota and it’s no wonder why production on federal lands has gone down,” Warren added.

Overall, U.S. oil production has boomed in recent years, but production on federal lands has been falling.
The Congressional Research Service reports that oil production on federal lands fell from 1,731,500 barrels per day in 2009 to
1,627,400 barrels per day in 2012, and the total share of crude oil produced on federal lands fell to 26 percent in 2012 from 33 percent in 2009.

Obama. leases the lowest amount of federal land in 25 years | The Daily Caller

So if the current gas prices are driven by supply... folks here is ONE distinct area the President can create more supply.. lowering gas prices.
Common sense should tell people that if there continues to be a growing supply the prices would drop.
BUT the federal land production dropping 38 million barrels a year HAS an affect regardless the size.

But yet Big milestone: U.S. producing more oil than it imports

For the Saudi haters: The majority of US oil imports came from Canada.

The President can't control oil and gasoline prices, both are controlled by rich people in the market.

If you want to lower gasoline prices at the pump, make it illegal to trade gasoline in the market and cap gasoline/diesel prices at $0.40 cents above taxes. After all, at the beginning of the 2000's, regular gasoline was being sold at $1.00 per gallon and the oil companies still made billions in profit/quarter.

If the market is controlled by rich people why do they allow prices to drop so dramatically?
/duh.
 

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