Who started WW II.

FDR had the media in his back pocket and the media writes the history books. The racist attitude the U.S. had for Japan probably resulted in the criminal assumption that the Japanese would be pushovers and the U.S. could get into the "real war" in Europe after we squashed the little yellow menace. You almost have to laugh that FDR's oratory skills could make a menu sound profound and the media raved about his "fear itself" speech that was relatively meaningless as was "the day of infamy" speech and never asked a question. COS George Marshall who never had a combat command was credited with a near photographic memory and yet his testimony indicates that he couldn't remember where he was during the early morning hours of December 7. Marshall had the decoded message in his hands that indicated an imminent attack and he read it and re-read it and re-re-read it until the military message center went down and he sent a telegram to Hawaii that arrived about the same time as the Zeroes. The Carriers were out and the fix was in.

I don't know what general Marshall may have known or when. But from all I have seen, it seems clear to me that FDR knew an attack on Pearl Harbor was going to happen. He made sure that our two most important ships, the aircraft carriers, were out to sea when it happened.
 
It was Socialism done right ?

It was National Socialism done right. We couldn't have plane old socialism here. Even as things are now, it would seem that every latino in the Western Hemisphere wants to come here. It would be far worse if we had an economic system here that made things much more pleasant and equatable for the average American. Things are so bad in some of those latino countries that they would rather be in jail here than free in their own countries.
 
Hitler didn't start WW II. The Poles who were murdering ethnig Germans in Poland, causing Hitler to invade, started WW II. Next, I have given links to various websites that show that FDR knew the attack on Pear Harbor was going to happen. He wanted it to happen. Because there was no better way to get us out of the Great Depression. But the level of proof you require is buried so deep that you'll never see it. As for the millions lying, I take it you're speaking of the holocaust. I did a thread about that. Take that argument there. So I can show how perverted your "truth" is.
So Hitler was made to invade aPoland?
Hitler didn't start WW II. The Poles who were murdering ethnig Germans in Poland, causing Hitler to invade, started WW II. Next, I have given links to various websites that show that FDR knew the attack on Pear Harbor was going to happen. He wanted it to happen. Because there was no better way to get us out of the Great Depression. But the level of proof you require is buried so deep that you'll never see it. As for the millions lying, I take it you're speaking of the holocaust. I did a thread about that. Take that argument there. So I can show how perverted your "truth" is.
Invading Poland was part of Hitlers Central Aim Policy. That is it. Please quit lying.
 
FDR. That's who. It has been uncovered that there were a number of things suggested for FDR to do to goad the Japanese into attacking the U.S. All of them were done. Also, FDR knew that the Japanese were going to attack Pearl Harbor. But because that is what he wanted, he did nothing. Except make sure that our two most important ships there, our aircraft carriers, were out to sea when the attack happened.

They may have even been able to decode this message that admiral Yamamoto sent back to Japan. "The task force, keeping its movements strictly secret and maintaining close guard against submarines and aircraft, shall advance into Hawaiian waters, and upon the very opening of hostilities shall attack the main force of the United States fleet in Hawaii and deal it a mortal blow." Why was this and probably other messages sent? Probably because admiral Yamamoto himself didn't want to pull off a sneak attack. They no doubt knew that doing so is exactly what FDR would have wanted.

Though what FDR really wanted was to go to war with Germany. He saw to it that also happened. Sure, Germany may have declared war on the U.S. But we were basically already at war with them anyway. By supplying England with weapons and other supplies. No doubt a deal was also secretly made with Stalin to attack Germany. Knowing that the U.S. would support them too. A former Russian military intelligence officer named Vladmir Rezun wrote a book about it called, "Icebreaker: Who Started The Second World War." Supposedly, this book has been "debunked." But who would know better than a Russian military intelligence officer.

The whole reason reason that Germany attacked Russia was because they found out that the Russians were about to attack them! At the time, here is how the two opposing military forces stacked up against each other.


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All your post is total bullshit.
 
We were prepared enough. We had so many ships that we gave many to England under the Lend Lease Act. Also, the U.S. had absolutely nothing to worry about from Germany. To me, the whole point was that we were an English speaking country. And England was of course an English speaking country. Right or wrong, the U.S. was bound to support England. Peace could have been sought. But wasn't. Next, having the Japanese attack Pearl Harbor was just a back door into getting involved in Europe. Which most American didn't want to see happen. Hitler really fucked up when he declared war on the U.S. in support of Japan.
We were borrowing Flower class corvettes from the RN to escort coastal convoys in 1942. We couldn’t meet our own needs that year, the Brits were begging for Wildcat fighters, prior to November 1942, the US was only able to provide less than eighty folding wing Wildcats to the RN. The British Army was using tanks pulled right out of American units to replace the tanks bought and provided under Lend-Lease. In 1943 and 1944 the equipment spigot was opened with production exceeding demand in all categories.
The only peace Hitler would accept was capitulation and even then, he had proven he couldn’t be trusted to keep the treaties he signed.
 
I don't know what general Marshall may have known or when. But from all I have seen, it seems clear to me that FDR knew an attack on Pearl Harbor was going to happen. He made sure that our two most important ships, the aircraft carriers, were out to sea when it happened.
One of many things you don’t understand is that in 1941, carriers weren’t considered important ships. The Battleships were the important and decisive ships and they were all sitting in the harbor with mostly cold boilers and open watertight doors. Of all the Battleships at Pearl on December 7th, only Nevada managed to get underway and she was only able to because the duty engineering officer decided to fire up a second boiler so he could take the one providing steam to the electrical generators off line for maintenance. The carriers only became the decisive ships because the Battleships were all either in the Atlantic, or sitting on the bottom of Pearl Harbor. If carriers had been considered important, in 1937 instead of North Carolina and Washington and South Dakota, Indiana, Alabama and Massachusetts being laid down in 1939, the USN would have commissioned six more Yorktown class carriers despite the Washington naval treaty limitations.
 
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Hitler didn't start WW II. The Poles who were murdering ethnig Germans in Poland, causing Hitler to invade, started WW II. Next, I have given links to various websites that show that FDR knew the attack on Pear Harbor was going to happen. He wanted it to happen. Because there was no better way to get us out of the Great Depression. But the level of proof you require is buried so deep that you'll never see it. As for the millions lying, I take it you're speaking of the holocaust. I did a thread about that. Take that argument there. So I can show how perverted your "truth" is.
Wrong he started it

You were already proven wrong about trrhat sdo njow you are just a liar making crap up as you do.

You have ONLY given links wo websites which speculate and make assumptions I have proven your claim to be an absolute failure

No YOU brought up the holocaust HERE so you defend your claim


Your thread was a massive failure
 
There was a famous jewish Nazi hunter out there named Simon
Wiesenthal. You couldn't get any more anti-Nazi that him. Even he admitted that there were no "death camps" on German soil. So how did Hitler holocaust millions of his own people. Also, you wouldn't know "fact" if it bit you in the ass.
The jews were his people dumbass

I have posted facts it s you denying them and lying
 
Hitler was NOT chancellor in 1933

Hitler was "Reichskanzler" (Short form "Kanzler" = "chancellor") from January, 30th, 1933 to April, 30th, 1945.

See also: Kabinett Hitler – Wikipedia , Kabinett Goebbels – Wikipedia

By the way: Bundeskanzler of the federal republic of Germany and Reichskanzler are very different. The most important man in the democracy of Weimar had been the president. President Hindenburg nominated Hitler to be chancellor. When Hindenburg died in August 1934 - what a "luck" for the Nazis - Hitler became also president (= head of the state) and in 1938 Hitler became additionally Oberbefehlshaber der Wehrmacht (= Commander in Chief of the Defense Force).
 
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FDR. That's who. It has been uncovered that there were a number of things suggested for FDR to do to goad the Japanese into attacking the U.S. All of them were done. Also, FDR knew that the Japanese were going to attack Pearl Harbor. But because that is what he wanted, he did nothing. Except make sure that our two most important ships there, our aircraft carriers, were out to sea when the attack happened.

They may have even been able to decode this message that admiral Yamamoto sent back to Japan. "The task force, keeping its movements strictly secret and maintaining close guard against submarines and aircraft, shall advance into Hawaiian waters, and upon the very opening of hostilities shall attack the main force of the United States fleet in Hawaii and deal it a mortal blow." Why was this and probably other messages sent? Probably because admiral Yamamoto himself didn't want to pull off a sneak attack. They no doubt knew that doing so is exactly what FDR would have wanted.

Though what FDR really wanted was to go to war with Germany. He saw to it that also happened. Sure, Germany may have declared war on the U.S. But we were basically already at war with them anyway. By supplying England with weapons and other supplies. No doubt a deal was also secretly made with Stalin to attack Germany. Knowing that the U.S. would support them too. A former Russian military intelligence officer named Vladmir Rezun wrote a book about it called, "Icebreaker: Who Started The Second World War." Supposedly, this book has been "debunked." But who would know better than a Russian military intelligence officer.

The whole reason reason that Germany attacked Russia was because they found out that the Russians were about to attack them! At the time, here is how the two opposing military forces stacked up against each other.


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Hitler.
 
We were borrowing Flower class corvettes from the RN to escort coastal convoys in 1942. We couldn’t meet our own needs that year, the Brits were begging for Wildcat fighters, prior to November 1942, the US was only able to provide less than eighty folding wing Wildcats to the RN. The British Army was using tanks pulled right out of American units to replace the tanks bought and provided under Lend-Lease. In 1943 and 1944 the equipment spigot was opened with production exceeding demand in all categories.
The only peace Hitler would accept was capitulation and even then, he had proven he couldn’t be trusted to keep the treaties he signed.

Bullshit. We didn't need any warships from England. Maybe this will interest you.
Destroyers-for-bases deal - Wikipedia
 
One of many things you don’t understand is that in 1941, carriers weren’t considered important ships. The Battleships were the important and decisive ships and they were all sitting in the harbor with mostly cold boilers and open watertight doors. Of all the Battleships at Pearl on December 7th, only Nevada managed to get underway and she was only able to because the duty engineering officer decided to fire up a second boiler so he could take the one providing steam to the electrical generators off line for maintenance. The carriers only became the decisive ships because the Battleships were all either in the Atlantic, or sitting on the bottom of Pearl Harbor. If carriers had been considered important, in 1937 instead of North Carolina and Washington and South Dakota, Indiana, Alabama and Massachusetts being laid down in 1939, the USN would have commissioned six more Yorktown class carriers despite the Washington naval treaty limitations.

What a load of horse shit. After it had been proven that just one plane could sink a battleship, carries became the most important warships. Also, look at the attack on Pearl Harbor. It wasn't battleships that caused the destruction. It was aircraft from aircraft carriers.
 
Wrong he started it

You were already proven wrong about trrhat sdo njow you are just a liar making crap up as you do.

You have ONLY given links wo websites which speculate and make assumptions I have proven your claim to be an absolute failure

No YOU brought up the holocaust HERE so you defend your claim


Your thread was a massive failure

Go to thread #274. Read the link in it. Also, I didn't bring up the holocaust here. I have a thread for that.
 
The jews were his people dumbass

I have posted facts it s you denying them and lying

Fucking LIAR! Around 150,000 Jews actually fought for the Nazis. Also, German jews weren't killed. Hitler sided with the Zionists to reform the state of israel. Before war put a stop to it, Germany deported 60 to 70% of its jews to Palestine under The Haavara Agreement. It was the Nazis who taught them how to set up their Kibbutz settlements there. And the Germans planed to and probably did give them trade goods as repayment for whatever wealth Jews may have lost from leaving Germany.
 
Fucking LIAR! Around 150,000 Jews actually fought for the Nazis. Also, German jews weren't killed. Hitler sided with the Zionists to reform the state of israel. Before war put a stop to it, Germany deported 60 to 70% of its jews to Palestine under The Haavara Agreement. It was the Nazis who taught them how to set up their Kibbutz settlements there. And the Germans planed to and probably did give them trade goods as repayment for whatever wealth Jews may have lost from leaving Germany.
He was jewish you idiot

Yes German jews were killed along with all the other jews.

The rest of your claim is shit you pulled from your ass
 

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