Who Supports The Official 9/11 Gov’t Cover Stories

[sealybobo]

thus showing what a fucking liar you are

well make up your mind ..do you believe the official Bush story or do you believe the testomony of first responders ?...and don't give me your twist their word lie to squirm out of it ...there is no twisting ..just their testomony in their words..and the only way you can deal with that fact is ....diveconthink and denial

the thing is
there is no "official bush story"
thats whats so fucked up by you assholes
there is only a SMALL minority of morons in this country that believe what you do, and the people you use and twist their words hate you guys

By the way. You should look at the number from month to month and year to year regarding the question,

HOW MANY AMERICANS BELIEVE SADDAM HAD WMD's.

At one point I could have showed you that most Americans believed Bush's bullshit. But if you look at the numbers now, you'd see about 55% don't believe that anymore.

And how many people still think Saddam had something to do with 9-11?

That's what happens when you have a liar for a President and a Media that is in their hip pocket.

So don't tell me what most Americans believe. I mean, I want to know, but don't show me that as proof of somethign being true or not. Most Americans are dumb. Just look at your family tree. How many dummies are on that?

 

[eots]

thus showing what a fucking liar you are

well make up your mind ..do you believe the official Bush story or do you believe the testomony of first responders ?...and don't give me your twist their word lie to squirm out of it ...there is no twisting ..just their testomony in their words..and the only way you can deal with that fact is ....diveconthink and denial

the thing is
there is no "official bush story"
thats whats so fucked up by you assholes
there is only a SMALL minority of morons in this country that believe what you do, and the people you use and twist their words hate you guys

aren't you embarrassed ?..in always avoiding the question with denial and empty false accusations about how first responders hate the record of their ...own testomony..and can you explain how you twist words like... molten metal...molten metal...like in a foundry flowing down the channel rails...like lave

 

[eots]

Alex Jones, History Channel 9/11: Controlled Demolition Inc & America Rebuilds

 

[DiveCon]

aren't you embarrassed ?..

no, but YOU should be

 

[HUGGY]

Thank you again for your valuable input that might help some of the Sheeple to wake the hell up already. :0)

Yes Huggie Thank you for coming on here and sharing your valuable imput with us.Like he said,maybe the sheep on here will take what an airline pilot such as yourself has to say seriously and will wake them up.Since you are an airliner pilot,please explain to the loyal Bush dupes here how its also impossible for an airliner to have hit the pentagan there because of the fact that it would have hit and damaged several cars on the streets across from it coming in at that low altitude and what expert pilots have said in VIDEOS that the Bush dupes always ignore and never watch when people such as myself show it to them,that it would also be impossible for the airliner to make the 270 degree turn they said it did to come into the pentagan and hit the building and also that it would have torched the grounds there with firemarks and that the grass would not remain green like they do in the photos.

And also that it would be pretty much impossible to do without people in the traffic towers to tell them the headings and everything having to see through the clouds and all would be impossible to do without air traffic support.Please explain that to them for me if you dont mind. They always ignore these little facts also that a controller was quoted saying she thought for sure it was a military jet fighter because an airliner could not perform those kinds of incredible manuvers they did.

Funny that you mentioned the kennedy assassination because till 9/11 came along,that was what i always devoted all my time to when I wasnt working or sleeping was reading and researching the kennedy assassination all these years.the movie JFK woke me up and I have never looked at the united states of america the same way I used to.I have met several witnesses that were there that day and read over 100 books on the event.The evidence for that is overwhelming it was the CIA/MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX that Eisenhower warned the american people about in his farewell address to be aware of.The evidence is even MORE overwhelming that 9/11 was an inside job since NOW we have the internet and technology we didnt have back then to look at.The thing is,their both tied into each other and both are connected.

Try to read more carefully. I am not an "airline" pilot. The largest plane I have flown is a twin engine Cessna 402. It carries 10 passengers or approximately 2,000 lbs in cargo which is the configuration I was using.

As far as proving that the plane could have flown the flight path go ask someone that owns a flight simulator.

 

[sealybobo]

aren't you embarrassed ?..

no, but YOU should be

If Cheney is hoping for another 9-11 type attack on America so it can help the GOP, why is it so hard to believe that they let 9-11 happen? They clearly see the victims of 9-11 as collateral damage. No big deal, right? And there really isn't any credible reason why Cheney had control of NORAD the day of the attack. That's never happened before in US history. And isn't it odd that we get hit when NORAD is taken offline. Coincidence? Only if you are a god damned brainwashed right winger.

Funny that you guys know how to speculate about Vince Foster but can't put 2 & 2 together on this one.

What would you do if you found out they did let 9-11 happen? Would you defend them or finally distance yourself from them?

 

[eots]

Freedom is the freedom to say that 2 + 2 = 4. ...


George Orwell

 

[DiveCon]

aren't you embarrassed ?..

no, but YOU should be

If Cheney is hoping for another 9-11 type attack on America so it can help the GOP, why is it so hard to believe that they let 9-11 happen? They clearly see the victims of 9-11 as collateral damage. No big deal, right? And there really isn't any credible reason why Cheney had control of NORAD the day of the attack. That's never happened before in US history. And isn't it odd that we get hit when NORAD is taken offline. Coincidence? Only if you are a god damned brainwashed right winger.

Funny that you guys know how to speculate about Vince Foster but can't put 2 & 2 together on this one.

What would you do if you found out they did let 9-11 happen? Would you defend them or finally distance yourself from them?

the fact is, Cheney DIDNT have control of NORAD
that is a LIE

 

[DiveCon]

Freedom is the freedom to say that 2 + 2 = 4. ...


George Orwell

so why do you want everyone to think 2+2=5????

 

[eots]

fact is divecon is a lie or is in deep denial and should put down his ratted copy of popular mechanics

 

[sealybobo]

no, but YOU should be

If Cheney is hoping for another 9-11 type attack on America so it can help the GOP, why is it so hard to believe that they let 9-11 happen? They clearly see the victims of 9-11 as collateral damage. No big deal, right? And there really isn't any credible reason why Cheney had control of NORAD the day of the attack. That's never happened before in US history. And isn't it odd that we get hit when NORAD is taken offline. Coincidence? Only if you are a god damned brainwashed right winger.

Funny that you guys know how to speculate about Vince Foster but can't put 2 & 2 together on this one.

What would you do if you found out they did let 9-11 happen? Would you defend them or finally distance yourself from them?

the fact is, Cheney DIDNT have control of NORAD
that is a LIE

If that is true, I would admit being wrong. But I doubt that is a myth. I'll look.

 

[eots]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRJAI4-e7Xw[/ame]

 

[DiveCon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRJAI4-e7Xw

again, that was PROVEN TO BE WRONG


hmmm, why are you all of a sudden believing something from the 9/11 cxommission??????

 

[eots]

Capt. Daniel Davis, U.S. Army – Former U.S. Army Air Defense Officer and NORAD Tac Director. Decorated with the Bronze Star and the Soldiers Medal for bravery under fire and the Purple Heart for injuries sustained in Viet Nam. Also served in the Army Air Defense Command as Nike Missile Battery Control Officer for the Chicago-Milwaukee Defense Area. Founder and former CEO of Turbine Technology Services Corp., a turbine (jet engine) services and maintenance company (15 years). Former Senior Manager at General Electric Turbine (jet) Engine Division (15 years). Private pilot.

Statement to this website 3/23/07: "As a former General Electric Turbine engineering specialist and manager and then CEO of a turbine engineering company, I can guarantee that none of the high tech, high temperature alloy engines on any of the four planes that crashed on 9/11 would be completely destroyed, burned, shattered or melted in any crash or fire. Wrecked, yes, but not destroyed. Where are all of those engines, particularly at the Pentagon? If jet powered aircraft crashed on 9/11, those engines, plus wings and tail assembly, would be there.

Additionally, in my experience as an officer in NORAD as a Tactical Director for the Chicago-Milwaukee Air Defense and as a current private pilot, there is no way that an aircraft on instrument flight plans (all commercial flights are IFR) would not be intercepted when they deviate from their flight plan, turn off their transponders, or stop communication with Air Traffic Control. No way! With very bad luck, perhaps one could slip by, but no there's no way all four of them could!

Finally, going over the hill and highway and crashing into the Pentagon right at the wall/ground interface is nearly impossible for even a small slow single engine airplane and no way for a 757. Maybe the best pilot in the world could accomplish that but not these unskilled "terrorists".

Attempts to obscure facts by calling them a "Conspiracy Theory" does not change the truth. It seems, "Something is rotten in the State."

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

 

[eots]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRJAI4-e7Xw

again, that was PROVEN TO BE WRONG

unfounded explanations or denal from PM magazine is proof of nothing

 

[DiveCon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRJAI4-e7Xw

again, that was PROVEN TO BE WRONG

unfounded explanations or denal from PM magazine is proof of nothing

but all of a sudden you trust someone in the goverment and someone part of the 9/11 commission

 

[elvis]

again, that was PROVEN TO BE WRONG

unfounded explanations or denal from PM magazine is proof of nothing

but all of a sudden you trust someone in the goverment and someone part of the 9/11 commission

he's still better than pee wee.

 

[sealybobo]

no, but YOU should be

If Cheney is hoping for another 9-11 type attack on America so it can help the GOP, why is it so hard to believe that they let 9-11 happen? They clearly see the victims of 9-11 as collateral damage. No big deal, right? And there really isn't any credible reason why Cheney had control of NORAD the day of the attack. That's never happened before in US history. And isn't it odd that we get hit when NORAD is taken offline. Coincidence? Only if you are a god damned brainwashed right winger.

Funny that you guys know how to speculate about Vince Foster but can't put 2 & 2 together on this one.

What would you do if you found out they did let 9-11 happen? Would you defend them or finally distance yourself from them?

the fact is, Cheney DIDNT have control of NORAD
that is a LIE

From what I just read, it looks like he was.

9/11 Facts

I suspect most of this stuff is going to come out as fact in the near future. I'll remember that you said Cheney didn't have control of NORAD. So when you are proven wrong AGAIN, it'll just cement in my mind that it is people like you who call me a partisan hack and you who call me a conspiracy theory.

And it was you and people like you who Bush/Cheney knew they could put one over on. And they used the corporate media which you actually believe is liberal.

You are the typical American.

This site says he wasn't in charge of NORAD. I'm not buying this one:

Cheney in charge of NORAD - 911myths

But this one looks pretty good:

In an argument of over 600 pages and 1,000 footnotes, Crossing the Rubicon makes the case for official complicity within the U.S. government and names Dick Cheney as the prime suspect in the crimes of 9/11. Since the publication of this book (to which I had the privilege of contributing a chapter), many people have asked to hear the case against Cheney argued "short & sweet."

I will make it as short as possible, but it can never be sweet.

There are 3 major points made within this book that are crucial to proving Cheney's guilt. I shall first list them and then go on to prove each point as laid out in Crossing the Rubicon.
Means - Dick Cheney and the Secret Service: Dick Cheney was running a completely separate chain of Command & Control via the Secret Service, assuring the paralysis of Air Force response on 9/11. The Secret Service has the technology to see the same radar screens the FAA sees in real time. They also have the legal authority and technological capability to take supreme command in cases of national emergency. Dick Cheney was the acting Commander in Chief on 9/11. (Click here for a summary of these points)


Motive - Peak Oil: At some point between 2000 and 2007, world oil production reaches its peak; from that point on, every barrel of oil is going to be harder to find, more expensive to recover, and more valuable to those who recover and control it. Dick Cheney was well aware of the coming Peak Oil crisis at least as early as 1999, and 9/11 provided the pretext for the series of energy wars that Cheney stated, "will not end in our lifetime." (Click here for a summary of these points)


Opportunity - 9/11 War Games: The Air Force was running multiple war games on the morning of 9/11 simulating hijackings over the continental United States that included (at least) one "live-fly" exercise as well as simulations that placed "false blips" on FAA radar screens. These war games eerily mirrored the real events of 9/11 to the point of the Air Force running drills involving hijacked aircraft as the 9/11 plot actually unfolded. The war games & terror drills played a critical role in ensuring no Air Force fighter jocks - who had trained their entire lives for this moment - would be able to prevent the attacks from succeeding. These exercises were under Dick Cheney's management. (Click here for a summary of these points)

Find the errors in it please

Crossing the Rubicon: Simplifying the case against Dick Cheney

 

[HUGGY]

Freedom is the freedom to say that 2 + 2 = 4. ...


George Orwell

so why do you want everyone to think 2+2=5????

Cheney is an evil son of a bitch. I doubt anyone here has any "facts" as to what that piece of shit was doing on 9/11. I do know that DC was a signator on the Project for a New American Century which advocated a pre-emtive war with Iraq even before Bushes administration. Clinton rejected thier goals and suprise-suprise the outing of Monicas blow job was his reward. I would not put ANYTHING past Cheney.

Oh Ya...what was the info from the black boxs on the pentagon crash? Were they recovered? I don't waste much time on this subject because I already know it was a scam in that just the pentagon "crash" alone cannot be believed. Changing "history" back to match the facts would take more energy than I could summon.

 

[elvis]

If Cheney is hoping for another 9-11 type attack on America so it can help the GOP, why is it so hard to believe that they let 9-11 happen? They clearly see the victims of 9-11 as collateral damage. No big deal, right? And there really isn't any credible reason why Cheney had control of NORAD the day of the attack. That's never happened before in US history. And isn't it odd that we get hit when NORAD is taken offline. Coincidence? Only if you are a god damned brainwashed right winger.

Funny that you guys know how to speculate about Vince Foster but can't put 2 & 2 together on this one.

What would you do if you found out they did let 9-11 happen? Would you defend them or finally distance yourself from them?

the fact is, Cheney DIDNT have control of NORAD
that is a LIE

From what I just read, it looks like he was.

9/11 Facts

I suspect most of this stuff is going to come out as fact in the near future. I'll remember that you said Cheney didn't have control of NORAD. So when you are proven wrong AGAIN, it'll just cement in my mind that it is people like you who call me a partisan hack and you who call me a conspiracy theory.

And it was you and people like you who Bush/Cheney knew they could put one over on. And they used the corporate media which you actually believe is liberal.

You are the typical American.

This site says he wasn't in charge of NORAD. I'm not buying this one:

Cheney in charge of NORAD - 911myths

But this one looks pretty good:

In an argument of over 600 pages and 1,000 footnotes, Crossing the Rubicon makes the case for official complicity within the U.S. government and names Dick Cheney as the prime suspect in the crimes of 9/11. Since the publication of this book (to which I had the privilege of contributing a chapter), many people have asked to hear the case against Cheney argued "short & sweet."

I will make it as short as possible, but it can never be sweet.

There are 3 major points made within this book that are crucial to proving Cheney's guilt. I shall first list them and then go on to prove each point as laid out in Crossing the Rubicon.
Means - Dick Cheney and the Secret Service: Dick Cheney was running a completely separate chain of Command & Control via the Secret Service, assuring the paralysis of Air Force response on 9/11. The Secret Service has the technology to see the same radar screens the FAA sees in real time. They also have the legal authority and technological capability to take supreme command in cases of national emergency. Dick Cheney was the acting Commander in Chief on 9/11. (Click here for a summary of these points)


Motive - Peak Oil: At some point between 2000 and 2007, world oil production reaches its peak; from that point on, every barrel of oil is going to be harder to find, more expensive to recover, and more valuable to those who recover and control it. Dick Cheney was well aware of the coming Peak Oil crisis at least as early as 1999, and 9/11 provided the pretext for the series of energy wars that Cheney stated, "will not end in our lifetime." (Click here for a summary of these points)


Opportunity - 9/11 War Games: The Air Force was running multiple war games on the morning of 9/11 simulating hijackings over the continental United States that included (at least) one "live-fly" exercise as well as simulations that placed "false blips" on FAA radar screens. These war games eerily mirrored the real events of 9/11 to the point of the Air Force running drills involving hijacked aircraft as the 9/11 plot actually unfolded. The war games & terror drills played a critical role in ensuring no Air Force fighter jocks - who had trained their entire lives for this moment - would be able to prevent the attacks from succeeding. These exercises were under Dick Cheney's management. (Click here for a summary of these points)

Find the errors in it please

Crossing the Rubicon: Simplifying the case against Dick Cheney

Michael Ruppert is not a reliable source.