who was best president of usa ?

who was best president of usa ?

  • Abraham Lincoln

    Votes: 15 41.7%
  • Franklin D. Roosevelt

    Votes: 12 33.3%
  • jfk

    Votes: 6 16.7%
  • barak obama

    Votes: 3 8.3%

  • Total voters
    36
according to rightwinger the minimum wage was so bad in 76

that not only did it not pay the rent but rather

only "helped" to pay the rent

--LOL

well im off to work

He also said you could buy a new car. That was before so many regulations on safety devices were mandated. Seems government action has more to do with affording one than the wage.
 
No idea what your point is. Nobody is claiming anyone should spend their lives working at minimum wage

As conservatives like to point out, minimum wage is a starter wage. But starting what? It will no longer pay your college tuition, won't buy a car or help pay the rent

It did in 1976

unlikely that many had been buying 54 thousand dollar homes on 2 dollars an hour

Do you know what "rent'" is?


leftists do not like the idea of property ownership is that what you are indicating

besides that my earlier post remains true

and your deflection is noted

I claim that minimum wage would help pay the rent in 1976 and you start babbling about what a house cost and "leftists do not like property ownership"

Seems you are the one deflecting

You also said you could buy a new car. Do you think the federal government and all it's regulations on cars have raised the prices a disproportional amount?


not many minimum wagers in 76 bought new cars

there has always been a strong second market on such things

for a reason
 
Depends on who you were and what skills you had. My grandfather lived through the Great Depression. He had an 8th grade education. He took it upon himself to do better in life and owned several businesses, although not at the same time, over a 50 year span.

Yes, it did depend on who you were and what skills you had

What we do know is that the overwhelming majority of our workforce in the 1930s were unable to save enough money for retirement. FDR fixed that

Yet even Liberals say Social Security isn't enough to live on.

My grandfather didn't do it just during the 1930s. Perhaps you missed the part about 50 years.

Your Grandfather took Social Security and Medicare didn't he?
Ah the typical reply of a liberal who hates the working person. It is okay for some dipshit liberal to get social security and medicare, who didn't pay into it, but not okay for the guy who worked his ass off paying the taxes for his future. The only good liberal is the one at the bottom of the ocean.

Yet another post unworthy of a serious reply
Yes, maybe you should stop posting, as you don't contribute anything other than misery.
 
again, most people who are on welfare are only on it for a few years. the rest of the time they are paying taxes and are putting something into the pot.

Well, it's fucked up ANYONE is allowed to benefit from labor and NOT pay a living wage for it. But don't come whining to me because WalMart has found a way to get you to subsidize their workforce without you ever having to shop there.

Well, actually, there is a way to put an age on it. 72 was an average. Medicare is even worse, because you have one person who has a devestating illness, and Medicare is going to pay tens of thousands of dollars the rest of us have to contribute. But again, that's WHITE PEOPLE WELFARE, so that's okay with you.
If the fucking liberals would stop raising the minimum wage(Inflation) then there wouldn't need to be a raise of minimum wage. Back in 1976, the minimum wage for college kids and retirement folks, was $2.10 an hour. A McD Burger, Fry and Small Drink came to 99 cents. Today at $7.50 an hour, those same three items are over $3.00. Of course in Obama's roaring economic recovery now full time is part time so minimum wage gets screwed by liberals once again. Did the raise of minimum wage do anything for the dumbshits who don't want to learn to get better? Nope the wages tripled but so did the costs. Shame liberals are too stupid to understand this? But alas I am repeating myself once again.

All your example does is prove that minimum wage has not kept up with inflation

In 1976 I paid for college working summers at $2.10 minimum wage.
A student cant come close to doing that today

In 1976, I could buy a new car working 6 months at minimum wage ...try to do that today

When the skills to do those minimum wage jobs today are the same as they were in 1976, why would you expect wages to match anything other than the skill level required to do the job. If someone is doing the same job they did in 1976, apparently their skill level hasn't changed much. Why should their wages?

No idea what your point is. Nobody is claiming anyone should spend their lives working at minimum wage

As conservatives like to point out, minimum wage is a starter wage. But starting what? It will no longer pay your college tuition, won't buy a car or help pay the rent

It did in 1976

No one is claiming that anyone SHOULD spend their life working at minimum wage. However, there are people that do because they offer so few skills, it's all they can get. Instead of holding the one offering such low skills responsible for having low skills, Liberals want them to be given a wage above those skills.
and they vote Dumbocrat, give them free stuff and they will vote to keep the free stuff coming, that way they don't have to work harder to make themselves better.
A typical liberal voter, see youtube video.

 
No idea what your point is. Nobody is claiming anyone should spend their lives working at minimum wage

As conservatives like to point out, minimum wage is a starter wage. But starting what? It will no longer pay your college tuition, won't buy a car or help pay the rent

It did in 1976

unlikely that many had been buying 54 thousand dollar homes on 2 dollars an hour

Do you know what "rent'" is?


leftists do not like the idea of property ownership is that what you are indicating

besides that my earlier post remains true

and your deflection is noted

I claim that minimum wage would help pay the rent in 1976 and you start babbling about what a house cost and "leftists do not like property ownership"

Seems you are the one deflecting


my post was clear a two dollar an hour job

would not buy a 54 thousand dollar home

you

replied with interpreting what you said

who cares in the American dream of owning a home

fuck em let them live paycheck to paycheck in a rented place

Like talking in circles with you

Who ever claimed you could buy a $54,000 house on minimum wage?
Where did I ever say anything negative about owning a home? I own two
 
Depends on who you were and what skills you had. My grandfather lived through the Great Depression. He had an 8th grade education. He took it upon himself to do better in life and owned several businesses, although not at the same time, over a 50 year span.

Yes, it did depend on who you were and what skills you had

What we do know is that the overwhelming majority of our workforce in the 1930s were unable to save enough money for retirement. FDR fixed that

Yet even Liberals say Social Security isn't enough to live on.

My grandfather didn't do it just during the 1930s. Perhaps you missed the part about 50 years.

Your Grandfather took Social Security and Medicare didn't he?
Ah the typical reply of a liberal who hates the working person. It is okay for some dipshit liberal to get social security and medicare, who didn't pay into it, but not okay for the guy who worked his ass off paying the taxes for his future. The only good liberal is the one at the bottom of the ocean.

Yet another post unworthy of a serious reply

Yet you replied again.
 
unlikely that many had been buying 54 thousand dollar homes on 2 dollars an hour

Do you know what "rent'" is?


leftists do not like the idea of property ownership is that what you are indicating

besides that my earlier post remains true

and your deflection is noted

I claim that minimum wage would help pay the rent in 1976 and you start babbling about what a house cost and "leftists do not like property ownership"

Seems you are the one deflecting


my post was clear a two dollar an hour job

would not buy a 54 thousand dollar home

you

replied with interpreting what you said

who cares in the American dream of owning a home

fuck em let them live paycheck to paycheck in a rented place

Like talking in circles with you

Who ever claimed you could buy a $54,000 house on minimum wage?
Where did I ever say anything negative about owning a home? I own two
Not very liberal of you to own 2 houses, while there are some people under Obamanomics who have to live in tents. I have an idea, why don't you invite about 20 Syrian refugees to spend some comfort time with you and share your houses?
 
Do you know what "rent'" is?


leftists do not like the idea of property ownership is that what you are indicating

besides that my earlier post remains true

and your deflection is noted

I claim that minimum wage would help pay the rent in 1976 and you start babbling about what a house cost and "leftists do not like property ownership"

Seems you are the one deflecting


my post was clear a two dollar an hour job

would not buy a 54 thousand dollar home

you

replied with interpreting what you said

who cares in the American dream of owning a home

fuck em let them live paycheck to paycheck in a rented place

Like talking in circles with you

Who ever claimed you could buy a $54,000 house on minimum wage?
Where did I ever say anything negative about owning a home? I own two
Not very liberal of you to own 2 houses, while there are some people under Obamanomics who have to live in tents. I have an idea, why don't you invite about 20 Syrian refugees to spend some comfort time with you and share your houses?

amazing isnt
 
unlikely that many had been buying 54 thousand dollar homes on 2 dollars an hour

Do you know what "rent'" is?


leftists do not like the idea of property ownership is that what you are indicating

besides that my earlier post remains true

and your deflection is noted

I claim that minimum wage would help pay the rent in 1976 and you start babbling about what a house cost and "leftists do not like property ownership"

Seems you are the one deflecting


my post was clear a two dollar an hour job

would not buy a 54 thousand dollar home

you

replied with interpreting what you said

who cares in the American dream of owning a home

fuck em let them live paycheck to paycheck in a rented place

Like talking in circles with you

Who ever claimed you could buy a $54,000 house on minimum wage?
Where did I ever say anything negative about owning a home? I own two
hey dumb shit

that was the average price of a home in that year
 
Do you know what "rent'" is?


leftists do not like the idea of property ownership is that what you are indicating

besides that my earlier post remains true

and your deflection is noted

I claim that minimum wage would help pay the rent in 1976 and you start babbling about what a house cost and "leftists do not like property ownership"

Seems you are the one deflecting


my post was clear a two dollar an hour job

would not buy a 54 thousand dollar home

you

replied with interpreting what you said

who cares in the American dream of owning a home

fuck em let them live paycheck to paycheck in a rented place

Like talking in circles with you

Who ever claimed you could buy a $54,000 house on minimum wage?
Where did I ever say anything negative about owning a home? I own two
hey dumb shit

that was the average price of a home in that year
God damn....you are thick

We are talking about what someone making $2.10 an hour could afford. Don't think houses are in that pay grade
 
leftists do not like the idea of property ownership is that what you are indicating

besides that my earlier post remains true

and your deflection is noted

I claim that minimum wage would help pay the rent in 1976 and you start babbling about what a house cost and "leftists do not like property ownership"

Seems you are the one deflecting


my post was clear a two dollar an hour job

would not buy a 54 thousand dollar home

you

replied with interpreting what you said

who cares in the American dream of owning a home

fuck em let them live paycheck to paycheck in a rented place

Like talking in circles with you

Who ever claimed you could buy a $54,000 house on minimum wage?
Where did I ever say anything negative about owning a home? I own two
hey dumb shit

that was the average price of a home in that year
God damn....you are thick

We are talking about what someone making $2.10 an hour could afford. Don't think houses are in that pay grade


you lamely tried to claim that the minimum wage was better then then now

"As conservatives like to point out, minimum wage is a starter wage. But starting what? It will no longer pay your college tuition, won't buy a car or help pay the rent

It did in 1976"

it didnt buy a car then anymore then now

minimum wage today same as it did in 76 "helps" pay the rent

 
according to rightwinger the minimum wage was so bad in 76

that not only did it not pay the rent but rather

only "helped" to pay the rent

--LOL

well im off to work

He also said you could buy a new car. That was before so many regulations on safety devices were mandated. Seems government action has more to do with affording one than the wage.

yeah he is full of shit
 
according to rightwinger the minimum wage was so bad in 76

that not only did it not pay the rent but rather

only "helped" to pay the rent

--LOL

well im off to work

He also said you could buy a new car. That was before so many regulations on safety devices were mandated. Seems government action has more to do with affording one than the wage.

yeah he is full of shit

Sad thing is the very government he puts so much faith in is the reason why cars are disproportionately higher today compared to 40 years ago with all their regulations. His answer is to get the same government that caused it to force employers to pay more so someone can afford something the government he loves made it where they couldn't afford it.
 
according to rightwinger the minimum wage was so bad in 76

that not only did it not pay the rent but rather

only "helped" to pay the rent

--LOL

well im off to work

He also said you could buy a new car. That was before so many regulations on safety devices were mandated. Seems government action has more to do with affording one than the wage.

yeah he is full of shit

Sad thing is the very government he puts so much faith in is the reason why cars are disproportionately higher today compared to 40 years ago with all their regulations. His answer is to get the same government that caused it to force employers to pay more so someone can afford something the government he loves made it where they couldn't afford it.

exactly
 
according to rightwinger the minimum wage was so bad in 76

that not only did it not pay the rent but rather

only "helped" to pay the rent

--LOL

well im off to work

He also said you could buy a new car. That was before so many regulations on safety devices were mandated. Seems government action has more to do with affording one than the wage.

yeah he is full of shit

Sad thing is the very government he puts so much faith in is the reason why cars are disproportionately higher today compared to 40 years ago with all their regulations. His answer is to get the same government that caused it to force employers to pay more so someone can afford something the government he loves made it where they couldn't afford it.

exactly
I know that was kind of circular.

It's the same type of thing with the administrators in the local school district where I live. The dumbasses now in charge of fixing the problems that many of them caused. If they are good enough to solve them, they wouldn't have created them in the first place.
 
according to rightwinger the minimum wage was so bad in 76

that not only did it not pay the rent but rather

only "helped" to pay the rent

--LOL

well im off to work

He also said you could buy a new car. That was before so many regulations on safety devices were mandated. Seems government action has more to do with affording one than the wage.

yeah he is full of shit

Sad thing is the very government he puts so much faith in is the reason why cars are disproportionately higher today compared to 40 years ago with all their regulations. His answer is to get the same government that caused it to force employers to pay more so someone can afford something the government he loves made it where they couldn't afford it.

exactly
I know that was kind of circular.

It's the same type of thing with the administrators in the local school district where I live. The dumbasses now in charge of fixing the problems that many of them caused. If they are good enough to solve them, they wouldn't have created them in the first place.

as Reagan once famously said

the 9 most terrifying words in the English language are


'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'
 
He also said you could buy a new car. That was before so many regulations on safety devices were mandated. Seems government action has more to do with affording one than the wage.

yeah he is full of shit

Sad thing is the very government he puts so much faith in is the reason why cars are disproportionately higher today compared to 40 years ago with all their regulations. His answer is to get the same government that caused it to force employers to pay more so someone can afford something the government he loves made it where they couldn't afford it.

exactly
I know that was kind of circular.

It's the same type of thing with the administrators in the local school district where I live. The dumbasses now in charge of fixing the problems that many of them caused. If they are good enough to solve them, they wouldn't have created them in the first place.

as Reagan once famously said

the 9 most terrifying words in the English language are


'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'

Government officials, most of them, could fuck up a wet dream. Sad part is they don't realize they're doing it.
 
The whole reason why Social Security was created by a liberal, was because liberals who became old and feeble, didn't know how to save for their retirement. That was because liberals are too stupid to save their money. So FDR came in started stealing money away from working people, and soon, people got a small retirement supplement, but those dumbass liberals didn't know it was a supplement and wanted more. There is nothing dumber than a liberal, even a box of rocks has more intelligence.

Again, are you some kind of retard?

The reason why people realized we needed social security was after Republicans fucked everything up in 1929, most of the people who HAD saved their entire lives found their savings completely wiped out when the banks collapsed.

So the US followed the lead of Germany and the United Kingdom, which had social security for decades.
 
All it proves is that minimum wage was for college kids and retirement supplement. When I worked as a minimum wage burger flipper, I knew that there was no future at this profession unless I wanted to get in management. So I joined the military to get SKILLS that I could make money with. But you libtards cant get skills, because that would take work and keep you from your parents basement, where you collect welfare, smoke dope, stay on their insurance policy till you are 26 and bitch and moan how life is so shitty. Well libtard, who has been PRESIDENT for the past 7 years? Maybe instead of voting for the liberals, and relying on THEM to keep you enslaved, start looking at who the REAL ENEMIES of America, are, and they vote Dumbocrat.

GUy, the minimum wage was to make sure that the rich couldn't use recessions to fire everyone and hire people who worked cheaper.

The fact is, we have Airline pilot selling their blood plasma and Adjunct professors on food stamps. The idea that if you "get skills", the plutocrats will stop being shitheads is just silly.
 
Depends on who you were and what skills you had. My grandfather lived through the Great Depression. He had an 8th grade education. He took it upon himself to do better in life and owned several businesses, although not at the same time, over a 50 year span.

Your grandfather worked at a time that unions made sure working people got a fair shake and a fair wage.
 

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