Who's illegitimate now Mr Birtherism?

[kaz]

3 million votes more for hillary say you don't know what you're talking about

Do you know why no one cares that Carolina got 20 first downs while Denver only got 11? Any idea at all? Democrats are so stupid, it's incredible

why just not be honest and say the states were with him but not the overall population And I don't think you'll be getting that 76k edge you got in the 3 states that turned the tide for trump

Because I don't know that and neither do you.

Suppose the Super Bowl was scored on first downs instead of points? Would that have changed how many first downs the teams got? Obviously it would. There were tens of millions of Republicans in California, New York and Illinois alone with no reason to vote. Trump had no chance and Democrats are well oiled machines who dominate State elections. Neither Trump nor Hillary spent a dime there.

This is just your raging butt hurt over losing the election. You can't accept it. And your argument is completely brainless and devoid of merit. No one ran for the popular vote and obviously the voters knew how the election was run.

Then after you say campaigns don't effect elections, people knowing if their votes count doesn't affect elections, you turn around and say the Russians telling us what we already knew, that Hillary was corrupt, that does effect the election.

You're just stupid after stupid after stupid

 

[kaz]

you see kaz you live by the sword you die by the sword It was YOUR president elect that called Obama illegitimate for 5 or so years Why shouldn't dems return the favor with even more reason to do so???

I voted for Gary Johnson, dumb ass. Search for threads with the word Trump in the title I started before the election and tell me he's my candidate. You have to know that with all the posting you do here. Democrats are stupid as shit

 

[NYcarbineer]

Who’s the Illegitimate President Now, Mr. Birtherism?
Trump spent five years trying to delegitimize Obama. Now he's taking office under a cloud of suspicion, and only has himself to blame.
BY BRIAN BEUTLER
January 13, 2017


It is ironic that Donald Trump owes his success in Republican politics, and thus ultimately his presidency, to birtherism given the extent to which he failed to bring birtherism mainstream.

Don’t Watch Donald Trump’s Inauguration

• Trump Is Exactly the Monster We Feared, and Republicans Are Enabling Him

He assumed leadership of the birther movement in March 2011 when he first expressed public doubts about whether President Barack Obama was born in the U.S. The next month, Obama put an end to the farce by producing his Hawaiian birth certificate at a White House press conference, and days later humiliated Trump during the White House Correspondents Dinner. But Trump kept expressing doubts about Obama’s country of origin until late in the 2016 presidential campaign, when he shamelessly attempted to blame the entire crusade on Hillary Clinton. Eventually he had the last laugh.

Birtherism was a huge plot line of his presidency, one generally pushed by elements of the conservative fringe. Though these conspiracy theorists were egged on by Republicans, birtherism never became a mainstream Republican rallying cry because it is racist and fabricated. But the propulsive force behind birtherism, if not the theory itself, was a widely shared right-wing desire to void Obama’s presidency. Racism led elements of the far right to adopt birtherism specifically, but their quest was for any revelation that could prevent Obama from running the country. Only a few criteria govern who can become president; one of them is that the president must be a natural-born citizen; birtherism thus emerges from circular reasoning and wishful thinking. It is a tool that allows political nemeses to trump all politics, which is why white candidates likeJohn McCain and Ted Cruz have also found themselves at the center of less obviously racist birther inquests.

But if it’s ironic that Trump rose to the pinnacle of global power on the strength of a failed campaign to delegitimize Obama, it’s also fitting that his own presidency will begin under a mix of suspicions and legitimacy questions that are very real and that Trump brought upon himself.

All these butt hurt liberals really believe the American people are with them. They are absolutely delusional. I hope they keep it up. Trump may end up with 100% of the House and Senate. We the people are paying attention to who is trying to create problems for President Trump. We elected him we will back him.

2016 election:

1. Hillary Clinton won by almost 3 million votes. She actually got more votes than Obama did in 2012.

2. Democrats won the Senate vote, added up nationally, by 11 million.

3. Democrats gained seats in the House.

It's an exercise in mind bending delusion to call that an overwhelming victory for the GOP.

Then your party shouldn't change anything since they won the election. Pay no attention to the man in the white house.

Did I say anyone won the election who didn't?

My bad, it seemed like you were declaring a Democratic victory.

No, I was pointing out how ridiculous the people sound who declare that some sort of colossal landslide occurred in 2016 that is going to lead to a 1000 year GOP Reich.

 

[eddiew37]

3 million votes more for hillary say you don't know what you're talking about

Do you know why no one cares that Carolina got 20 first downs while Denver only got 11? Any idea at all? Democrats are so stupid, it's incredible

why just not be honest and say the states were with him but not the overall population And I don't think you'll be getting that 76k edge you got in the 3 states that turned the tide for trump

Because I don't know that and neither do you.

Suppose the Super Bowl was scored on first downs instead of points? Would that have changed how many first downs the teams got? Obviously it would. There were tens of millions of Republicans in California, New York and Illinois alone with no reason to vote. Trump had no chance and Democrats are well oiled machines who dominate State elections. Neither Trump nor Hillary spent a dime there.

This is just your raging butt hurt over losing the election. You can't accept it. And your argument is completely brainless and devoid of merit. No one ran for the popular vote and obviously the voters knew how the election was run.

Then after you say campaigns don't effect elections, people knowing if their votes count doesn't affect elections, you turn around and say the Russians telling us what we already knew, that Hillary was corrupt, that does effect the election.

You're just stupid after stupid after stupid

Were you birthers led by chump stupid stupid stupid too???

 

[kaz]

3 million votes more for hillary say you don't know what you're talking about

Do you know why no one cares that Carolina got 20 first downs while Denver only got 11? Any idea at all? Democrats are so stupid, it's incredible

why just not be honest and say the states were with him but not the overall population And I don't think you'll be getting that 76k edge you got in the 3 states that turned the tide for trump

Because I don't know that and neither do you.

Suppose the Super Bowl was scored on first downs instead of points? Would that have changed how many first downs the teams got? Obviously it would. There were tens of millions of Republicans in California, New York and Illinois alone with no reason to vote. Trump had no chance and Democrats are well oiled machines who dominate State elections. Neither Trump nor Hillary spent a dime there.

This is just your raging butt hurt over losing the election. You can't accept it. And your argument is completely brainless and devoid of merit. No one ran for the popular vote and obviously the voters knew how the election was run.

Then after you say campaigns don't effect elections, people knowing if their votes count doesn't affect elections, you turn around and say the Russians telling us what we already knew, that Hillary was corrupt, that does effect the election.

You're just stupid after stupid after stupid

Were you birthers led by chump stupid stupid stupid too???

I'm not a birther. I think Obama was born in Hawaii and even if he was born in Kenya he's a natural born American because his mother was American. You're just going on to demonstrate your stupidity further. Uncle, uncle! I concede. I stipulate to your stupidity, you can stop arguing it now

 

[eddiew37]

you see kaz you live by the sword you die by the sword It was YOUR president elect that called Obama illegitimate for 5 or so years Why shouldn't dems return the favor with even more reason to do so???

I voted for Gary Johnson, dumb ass. Search for threads with the word Trump in the title I started before the election and tell me he's my candidate. You have to know that with all the posting you do here. Democrats are stupid as shit

6000 or so message ave per year for you here isn't bad either And you pubs deserve trump

 

[Divine Wind]

I voted for Gary Johnson, dumb ass...

So did I yet you've repeatedly lied and claimed I voted for Hillary. Why are you such a spineless, blatant, lying hypocrite, Kaz?

 

[ding]

All these butt hurt liberals really believe the American people are with them. They are absolutely delusional. I hope they keep it up. Trump may end up with 100% of the House and Senate. We the people are paying attention to who is trying to create problems for President Trump. We elected him we will back him.

2016 election:

1. Hillary Clinton won by almost 3 million votes. She actually got more votes than Obama did in 2012.

2. Democrats won the Senate vote, added up nationally, by 11 million.

3. Democrats gained seats in the House.

It's an exercise in mind bending delusion to call that an overwhelming victory for the GOP.

Then your party shouldn't change anything since they won the election. Pay no attention to the man in the white house.

Did I say anyone won the election who didn't?

My bad, it seemed like you were declaring a Democratic victory.

No, I was pointing out how ridiculous the people sound who declare that some sort of colossal landslide occurred in 2016 that is going to lead to a 1000 year GOP Reich.

Well I haven't heard anyone claim a 1000 year Reich, but it did seem to me that the people in traditional Democratic states were sending the Democratic Party a message.

 

[kaz]

you see kaz you live by the sword you die by the sword It was YOUR president elect that called Obama illegitimate for 5 or so years Why shouldn't dems return the favor with even more reason to do so???

I voted for Gary Johnson, dumb ass. Search for threads with the word Trump in the title I started before the election and tell me he's my candidate. You have to know that with all the posting you do here. Democrats are stupid as shit

6000 or so message ave per year for you here isn't bad either And you pubs deserve trump

I said I stipulate to your stupidity, you can stop demonstrating it again.

I didn't say you post too much, I only said you post enough to know that I'm not a Trump supporter

And yeah, OK fine. Since you're too stupid to grasp not a Republican and not a Democrats ... at the same time ... I'm a Trump supporter. I didn't mean to distress you with confusing information. Your mommy's calling you, time for some milk and cookies. A heads up, after that she's planning to put you down for a nap ...

 

[Timmy]

Can we all agree the birther stuff is fake news?

Trump being a user of fake news is now getting his fake news cumuppence .

Just ask ted cruzs assassin dad and call girl wife .

 

[eddiew37]

you see kaz you live by the sword you die by the sword It was YOUR president elect that called Obama illegitimate for 5 or so years Why shouldn't dems return the favor with even more reason to do so???

I voted for Gary Johnson, dumb ass. Search for threads with the word Trump in the title I started before the election and tell me he's my candidate. You have to know that with all the posting you do here. Democrats are stupid as shit

6000 or so message ave per year for you here isn't bad either And you pubs deserve trump

I said I stipulate to your stupidity, you can stop demonstrating it again.

I didn't say you post too much, I only said you post enough to know that I'm not a Trump supporter

And yeah, OK fine. Since you're too stupid to grasp not a Republican and not a Democrats ... at the same time ... I'm a Trump supporter. I didn't mean to distress you with confusing information. Your mommy's calling you, time for some milk and cookies. A heads up, after that she's planning to put you down for a nap ...

please stop with that mommy calling bs I hardly know all on my side of the fence and know little on your side much less who you all voted for....people who voted for a 3rd party are responsible for trump

 

[kaz]

I voted for Gary Johnson, dumb ass...

So did I yet you've repeatedly lied and claimed I voted for Hillary. Why are you such a spineless, blatant, lying hypocrite, Kaz?

I voted for a libertarian, I've been arguing libertarian views.

You claim you voted for a small government libertarian, and you're arguing consistently with big government socialists.

Now here's the trick, can you identify what's different about those scenarios ???

 

[Divine Wind]

I'm not a birther. I think Obama was born in Hawaii and even if he was born in Kenya he's a natural born American because his mother was American. You're just going on to demonstrate your stupidity further. Uncle, uncle! I concede. I stipulate to your stupidity, you can stop arguing it now

Yet you've repeatedly danced with the lie as if it was true. Since you have also repeatedly lied about me, I strongly doubt your honesty, veracity and ability to say anything completely true.

Considering you have made up Barack Obama telling anyone he was born in Kenya- I see no reason to doubt your statement that you have made up where other people were born.

But you haven't made up your claim about Barack Obama by mistake- you have made it up as a deliberate falsehood.

Considering you have made up Barack Obama telling anyone he was born in Kenya- I see no reason to doubt your statement that you have made up where other people were born.

But you haven't made up your claim about Barack Obama by mistake- you have made it up as a deliberate falsehood

Begging the question. How do you know I believe that Obama didn't say he was born in Kenya. Clearly he did

It is a deliberate falsehood because you know that there is no evidence that Barack Obama ever told anyone he was born in Kenya- and the author of the article has specifically said he never told her he was born in Kenya. You just made the crap up, pulled it wholesale out of your ass.

Yeah- you are deliberately lying.

Of course there is evidence, his publisher said he was born in Kenya and can't explain where it came from other than Obama

 

[bripat9643]

Who’s the Illegitimate President Now, Mr. Birtherism?
Trump spent five years trying to delegitimize Obama. Now he's taking office under a cloud of suspicion, and only has himself to blame.
BY BRIAN BEUTLER
January 13, 2017


It is ironic that Donald Trump owes his success in Republican politics, and thus ultimately his presidency, to birtherism given the extent to which he failed to bring birtherism mainstream.

Don’t Watch Donald Trump’s Inauguration

• Trump Is Exactly the Monster We Feared, and Republicans Are Enabling Him

He assumed leadership of the birther movement in March 2011 when he first expressed public doubts about whether President Barack Obama was born in the U.S. The next month, Obama put an end to the farce by producing his Hawaiian birth certificate at a White House press conference, and days later humiliated Trump during the White House Correspondents Dinner. But Trump kept expressing doubts about Obama’s country of origin until late in the 2016 presidential campaign, when he shamelessly attempted to blame the entire crusade on Hillary Clinton. Eventually he had the last laugh.

Birtherism was a huge plot line of his presidency, one generally pushed by elements of the conservative fringe. Though these conspiracy theorists were egged on by Republicans, birtherism never became a mainstream Republican rallying cry because it is racist and fabricated. But the propulsive force behind birtherism, if not the theory itself, was a widely shared right-wing desire to void Obama’s presidency. Racism led elements of the far right to adopt birtherism specifically, but their quest was for any revelation that could prevent Obama from running the country. Only a few criteria govern who can become president; one of them is that the president must be a natural-born citizen; birtherism thus emerges from circular reasoning and wishful thinking. It is a tool that allows political nemeses to trump all politics, which is why white candidates likeJohn McCain and Ted Cruz have also found themselves at the center of less obviously racist birther inquests.

But if it’s ironic that Trump rose to the pinnacle of global power on the strength of a failed campaign to delegitimize Obama, it’s also fitting that his own presidency will begin under a mix of suspicions and legitimacy questions that are very real and that Trump brought upon himself.

Trump is the legitimate president. All the leftwing douche bag fake news and faux scandals haven't changed a thing. Only morons like you believe it has.

 

[bripat9643]

Who’s the Illegitimate President Now, Mr. Birtherism?
Trump spent five years trying to delegitimize Obama. Now he's taking office under a cloud of suspicion, and only has himself to blame.
BY BRIAN BEUTLER
January 13, 2017


It is ironic that Donald Trump owes his success in Republican politics, and thus ultimately his presidency, to birtherism given the extent to which he failed to bring birtherism mainstream.

Don’t Watch Donald Trump’s Inauguration

• Trump Is Exactly the Monster We Feared, and Republicans Are Enabling Him

He assumed leadership of the birther movement in March 2011 when he first expressed public doubts about whether President Barack Obama was born in the U.S. The next month, Obama put an end to the farce by producing his Hawaiian birth certificate at a White House press conference, and days later humiliated Trump during the White House Correspondents Dinner. But Trump kept expressing doubts about Obama’s country of origin until late in the 2016 presidential campaign, when he shamelessly attempted to blame the entire crusade on Hillary Clinton. Eventually he had the last laugh.

Birtherism was a huge plot line of his presidency, one generally pushed by elements of the conservative fringe. Though these conspiracy theorists were egged on by Republicans, birtherism never became a mainstream Republican rallying cry because it is racist and fabricated. But the propulsive force behind birtherism, if not the theory itself, was a widely shared right-wing desire to void Obama’s presidency. Racism led elements of the far right to adopt birtherism specifically, but their quest was for any revelation that could prevent Obama from running the country. Only a few criteria govern who can become president; one of them is that the president must be a natural-born citizen; birtherism thus emerges from circular reasoning and wishful thinking. It is a tool that allows political nemeses to trump all politics, which is why white candidates likeJohn McCain and Ted Cruz have also found themselves at the center of less obviously racist birther inquests.

But if it’s ironic that Trump rose to the pinnacle of global power on the strength of a failed campaign to delegitimize Obama, it’s also fitting that his own presidency will begin under a mix of suspicions and legitimacy questions that are very real and that Trump brought upon himself.

What suspicion? Trump won 304 electoral votes according to how the Constitution says the process should occur. Nothing suspicious about that?

TRUMP is in deep DooDoo
Nobody who’s reasonable questions Trump’s eligibility for the presidency, but questions surrounding his entitlement to keep the job are widespread, and not just on the left-wing fringe. Birtherism may have been Trump’s accidental springboard to the presidency, but the next four years are set to express themselves as a continuous fight over the legitimacy of his presidency in ways that will make birtherism seem like a footnote.

The fact that Trump’s weak lock on the presidency isn’t more widely discussed is attributable almost entirely to Republicans in Congress who, for now and for the foreseeable future, have resolved to foreclose inquiries into Trump’s conduct that may yield impeachable offenses.

Democrats can’t force investigations, and they can’t issue subpoenas, so they can’t isolate the source of all the smoke. But it’s everywhere.

Consider the following:

• It is very likely that the FBI is investigating links between Trump’s campaign aides and Russian actors who allegedly conducted a sabotage campaign against the Democratic Party and Hillary Clinton, and into whether Russian officials have the capacity to blackmail Trump.

• His designated CIA director, Mike Pompeo, not only vouchsafed the intelligence community’s conclusion that Russia embarked on its disruption campaign with the goal of helping Trump, but promised the senators considering his nomination “to pursue foreign intelligence with vigor no matter where the facts lead.”

• Trump has forced the director of the Office of Government Ethics, Walter Shaub, Jr., to take the unprecedented step of upbraiding the president-elect for freezing out ethics officers, and for making financial decisions that leave him highly conflicted between his business and the public interest. Shaub calledTrump’s decision to hand executive control over his business to his sons “wholly inadequate” and urged him to fully divest from the Trump organization.

• Ethics experts, and others on the left and right, have observed that Trump is very likely to become in violation of the emoluments clause of the Constitutionalmost immediately after taking the oath of office. Trump will set off a silent constitutional crisis in hour zero, leaving everyone wondering when it will become impossible to ignore.

fake news.

 

[kaz]

Can we all agree the birther stuff is fake news?

Trump being a user of fake news is now getting his fake news cumuppence .

Just ask ted cruzs assassin dad and call girl wife .

It is fake news. Why do you suppose Obama started it all accusing himself of being born in Kenya? Can we all agree what a dumb ass he was for doing that?

As for the rest of your post election butt hurt, whatever, Gomer

 

[kaz]

you see kaz you live by the sword you die by the sword It was YOUR president elect that called Obama illegitimate for 5 or so years Why shouldn't dems return the favor with even more reason to do so???

I voted for Gary Johnson, dumb ass. Search for threads with the word Trump in the title I started before the election and tell me he's my candidate. You have to know that with all the posting you do here. Democrats are stupid as shit

6000 or so message ave per year for you here isn't bad either And you pubs deserve trump

I said I stipulate to your stupidity, you can stop demonstrating it again.

I didn't say you post too much, I only said you post enough to know that I'm not a Trump supporter

And yeah, OK fine. Since you're too stupid to grasp not a Republican and not a Democrats ... at the same time ... I'm a Trump supporter. I didn't mean to distress you with confusing information. Your mommy's calling you, time for some milk and cookies. A heads up, after that she's planning to put you down for a nap ...

please stop with that mommy calling bs I hardly know all on my side of the fence and know little on your side much less who you all voted for....people who voted for a 3rd party are responsible for trump

I would never have voted for the corrupt criminal you did ever, so that's bull shit.

And if you want to stop being called a kid, cut the brainless crap that everyone not a Democrat shill like you is a Republican. Tell me again how you're smarter than Republicans because you aren't all black and white like they are, LOL ...

 

[eddiew37]

Who’s the Illegitimate President Now, Mr. Birtherism?
Trump spent five years trying to delegitimize Obama. Now he's taking office under a cloud of suspicion, and only has himself to blame.
BY BRIAN BEUTLER
January 13, 2017


It is ironic that Donald Trump owes his success in Republican politics, and thus ultimately his presidency, to birtherism given the extent to which he failed to bring birtherism mainstream.

Don’t Watch Donald Trump’s Inauguration

• Trump Is Exactly the Monster We Feared, and Republicans Are Enabling Him

He assumed leadership of the birther movement in March 2011 when he first expressed public doubts about whether President Barack Obama was born in the U.S. The next month, Obama put an end to the farce by producing his Hawaiian birth certificate at a White House press conference, and days later humiliated Trump during the White House Correspondents Dinner. But Trump kept expressing doubts about Obama’s country of origin until late in the 2016 presidential campaign, when he shamelessly attempted to blame the entire crusade on Hillary Clinton. Eventually he had the last laugh.

Birtherism was a huge plot line of his presidency, one generally pushed by elements of the conservative fringe. Though these conspiracy theorists were egged on by Republicans, birtherism never became a mainstream Republican rallying cry because it is racist and fabricated. But the propulsive force behind birtherism, if not the theory itself, was a widely shared right-wing desire to void Obama’s presidency. Racism led elements of the far right to adopt birtherism specifically, but their quest was for any revelation that could prevent Obama from running the country. Only a few criteria govern who can become president; one of them is that the president must be a natural-born citizen; birtherism thus emerges from circular reasoning and wishful thinking. It is a tool that allows political nemeses to trump all politics, which is why white candidates likeJohn McCain and Ted Cruz have also found themselves at the center of less obviously racist birther inquests.

But if it’s ironic that Trump rose to the pinnacle of global power on the strength of a failed campaign to delegitimize Obama, it’s also fitting that his own presidency will begin under a mix of suspicions and legitimacy questions that are very real and that Trump brought upon himself.

Trump is the legitimate president. All the leftwing douche bag fake news and faux scandals haven't changed a thing. Only morons like you believe it has.

Ah yes Bri you'd like dems to turn the other cheek and ask may I have another"? BS now it's time to give you back what you gave us for 8 years No more Mr nice guy

 

[kaz]

I'm not a birther. I think Obama was born in Hawaii and even if he was born in Kenya he's a natural born American because his mother was American. You're just going on to demonstrate your stupidity further. Uncle, uncle! I concede. I stipulate to your stupidity, you can stop arguing it now

Yet you've repeatedly danced with the lie as if it was true. Since you have also repeatedly lied about me, I strongly doubt your honesty, veracity and ability to say anything completely true.

Considering you have made up Barack Obama telling anyone he was born in Kenya- I see no reason to doubt your statement that you have made up where other people were born.

But you haven't made up your claim about Barack Obama by mistake- you have made it up as a deliberate falsehood

Begging the question. How do you know I believe that Obama didn't say he was born in Kenya. Clearly he did

It is a deliberate falsehood because you know that there is no evidence that Barack Obama ever told anyone he was born in Kenya- and the author of the article has specifically said he never told her he was born in Kenya. You just made the crap up, pulled it wholesale out of your ass.

Yeah- you are deliberately lying.

Of course there is evidence, his publisher said he was born in Kenya and can't explain where it came from other than Obama

Bull shit, I always say he was born in Hawaii and I always say even if he wasn't it's irrelevant, his mother was an American, so he's a natural born American regardless of where she gave birth. The whole thing of the location of birth is idiotic. It's who your parents are. But Obama totally deserves to be mocked for claiming he was born in Kenya. If he were a Republican, you'd suddenly get that.

So you think a birther believes he's a natural born American? That's classic, you don't even know what a birther is. You may want to Google that before continuing to make yourself look stupid. Birthers believe two things, I don't believe either one of them. Classic

 

[Divine Wind]

...You claim you voted for a small government libertarian, and you're arguing consistently with big government socialists.
...

Arguing against authoritarians, including "big government socialists" and also RW big government fascists. Still doesn't explain why you always lie about me when I disagree with you.