Why all the panic on the Left?

[Ame®icano]

You keep saying that investigation ended before Shokin got fired. The only proof on that is WSJ article with intent to accuse Trump of wrongdoing.

Why no mention of Shokin's deposition?

If he was holding a grudge, he could have complain about it long ago. So why he acted now?
According to his deposition, he did it to clear his name. Read paragraph 9, where he realized the actual reason for him being dismissed.

Again, not a single news article from 2015 through now corroborates his recent claim of investigating Burisma.

The affidavit also reads, "facts mentioned at this statement have not been verified by the notary."

And it appears he didn't sign that affidavit ...

So why on Earth should anyone ignore every news article on the subject, and ignore every historical recollection on the subject; only to believe the one person who was fired because of Biden, who didn't sign his sworn statement which wasn't verified, and was working directly with Trump's personal attorney to gain entrance into the U.S..?

Right...

Original statement is given in Russian. This is the translation.

Notary's job is not to verify facts in the statement, but to be impartial witness in giving of the statement.

That doesn't answer the question...

Why on Earth should anyone ignore every news article on the subject, and ignore every historical recollection on the subject; only to believe the one person who was fired because of Biden, who didn't sign his sworn statement which wasn't verified, and was working directly with Trump's personal attorney to gain entrance into the U.S..?

What early news? The article you linked to is from September this year, and it was revised few times already.

Shokin simply saying that he was asked to resign without knowledge that was on Biden's request. When he find out what's the real reason he was asked to resign, he gave his statement.

Tell me, what Shokin has to gain by giving his statement?

From 2016, reporting about December, 2015...

Ukraine Day 776: With Prosecutor General Out Of The Way, Has Poroshenko Turned A Corner On Corruption?

In a last September, the United States ambassador, Geoffrey Pyatt, said corruption was as dangerous for Ukraine as was the Russian support for a military insurgency in eastern Ukraine. And on a visit last December, Vice President Joseph Biden Jr. said corruption was eating Ukraine "like a cancer." Among the examples Mr. Pyatt cited was the seizure in Britain of $23 million in illicit assets from the former Ukrainian ecology minister, Mykola Zlochevsky; Mr. Shokin's office, however, declared that there was no case against the minister, and the money was released.​

It was reported then that Shokin wasn't investigating Burisma.

Uhm, riiight....

According to the text you provided Shokin was ousted for not providing evidence against Zlochevsky to Britain. Fine, for the sake of argument, let's say he was fired for being corrupted.

The new prosecutor general also did not provide any evidence against Zlochevsky, and guess what, he wasn't fired. Wonder why? Maybe because there was no evidence. If you read Shokin's statement, he provided the answers, but you chose to cherry pick part of the article that isn't telling the complete story.

 

[Faun]

Again, not a single news article from 2015 through now corroborates his recent claim of investigating Burisma.

The affidavit also reads, "facts mentioned at this statement have not been verified by the notary."

And it appears he didn't sign that affidavit ...

So why on Earth should anyone ignore every news article on the subject, and ignore every historical recollection on the subject; only to believe the one person who was fired because of Biden, who didn't sign his sworn statement which wasn't verified, and was working directly with Trump's personal attorney to gain entrance into the U.S..?

Right...

Original statement is given in Russian. This is the translation.

Notary's job is not to verify facts in the statement, but to be impartial witness in giving of the statement.

That doesn't answer the question...

Why on Earth should anyone ignore every news article on the subject, and ignore every historical recollection on the subject; only to believe the one person who was fired because of Biden, who didn't sign his sworn statement which wasn't verified, and was working directly with Trump's personal attorney to gain entrance into the U.S..?

What early news? The article you linked to is from September this year, and it was revised few times already.

Shokin simply saying that he was asked to resign without knowledge that was on Biden's request. When he find out what's the real reason he was asked to resign, he gave his statement.

Tell me, what Shokin has to gain by giving his statement?

From 2016, reporting about December, 2015...

Ukraine Day 776: With Prosecutor General Out Of The Way, Has Poroshenko Turned A Corner On Corruption?

In a last September, the United States ambassador, Geoffrey Pyatt, said corruption was as dangerous for Ukraine as was the Russian support for a military insurgency in eastern Ukraine. And on a visit last December, Vice President Joseph Biden Jr. said corruption was eating Ukraine "like a cancer." Among the examples Mr. Pyatt cited was the seizure in Britain of $23 million in illicit assets from the former Ukrainian ecology minister, Mykola Zlochevsky; Mr. Shokin's office, however, declared that there was no case against the minister, and the money was released.​

It was reported then that Shokin wasn't investigating Burisma.

Uhm, riiight....

According to the text you provided Shokin was ousted for not providing evidence against Zlochevsky to Britain. Fine, for the sake of argument, let's say he was fired for being corrupted.

The new prosecutor general also did not provide any evidence against Zlochevsky, and guess what, he wasn't fired. Wonder why? Maybe because there was no evidence. If you read Shokin's statement, he provided the answers, but you chose to cherry pick part of the article that isn't telling the complete story.

Great, so we're in agreement that Biden didn't get Shokin fired for investigating Burisma.

 

[Ame®icano]

Right...

Original statement is given in Russian. This is the translation.

Notary's job is not to verify facts in the statement, but to be impartial witness in giving of the statement.

That doesn't answer the question...

Why on Earth should anyone ignore every news article on the subject, and ignore every historical recollection on the subject; only to believe the one person who was fired because of Biden, who didn't sign his sworn statement which wasn't verified, and was working directly with Trump's personal attorney to gain entrance into the U.S..?

What early news? The article you linked to is from September this year, and it was revised few times already.

Shokin simply saying that he was asked to resign without knowledge that was on Biden's request. When he find out what's the real reason he was asked to resign, he gave his statement.

Tell me, what Shokin has to gain by giving his statement?

From 2016, reporting about December, 2015...

Ukraine Day 776: With Prosecutor General Out Of The Way, Has Poroshenko Turned A Corner On Corruption?

In a last September, the United States ambassador, Geoffrey Pyatt, said corruption was as dangerous for Ukraine as was the Russian support for a military insurgency in eastern Ukraine. And on a visit last December, Vice President Joseph Biden Jr. said corruption was eating Ukraine "like a cancer." Among the examples Mr. Pyatt cited was the seizure in Britain of $23 million in illicit assets from the former Ukrainian ecology minister, Mykola Zlochevsky; Mr. Shokin's office, however, declared that there was no case against the minister, and the money was released.​

It was reported then that Shokin wasn't investigating Burisma.

Uhm, riiight....

According to the text you provided Shokin was ousted for not providing evidence against Zlochevsky to Britain. Fine, for the sake of argument, let's say he was fired for being corrupted.

The new prosecutor general also did not provide any evidence against Zlochevsky, and guess what, he wasn't fired. Wonder why? Maybe because there was no evidence. If you read Shokin's statement, he provided the answers, but you chose to cherry pick part of the article that isn't telling the complete story.

Great, so we're in agreement that Biden didn't get Shokin fired for investigating Burisma.

Not really. According to Shokin, that is one of the reasons.

 

[rightwinger]

The left is looking forward to running against Trump and the Republicans that support him

 

[Roudy]

This is the reason for this bullshit impeachment charade:

Trump in a landslide? This historically accurate model predicts exactly that

The Dems really have no more moves left, they're going to get slaughtered in 2020, and we might not even have a fully functioning Democratic Party after Nov. 2020. Leftie news organizations like CNN, WAPO, NYTimes, MSNBC etc. will make their hack propagandists posing as journalists walk the plank as well.

It is a very good model that takes into account multiple economic variables in determining probability of re-election

Most presidents would easily win.....but we are talking about Trump

A President facing impeachment. A President a large percentage of Americans strongly dislike. A president who is not trusted

I am looking forward to 2020

Yes, it's the same Trump that beat 17 candidates, brought down the Clinton, Bush, and Obama dynasties, as well as a deep state criminal conspiracy by the CIA and FBI. That same Trump is predicted to win in a landslide.

Wow, who knew an Obama was running for President on 2016?

Obama ran harder than Hillary, it was his legacy on the line. And then when Trump became president, the deep state "insurance policy" criminal conpiracy to remove Trump was activated.

 

[Roudy]

It was a ceremonial gig. He didn't actually do any work.

So? That's not a crime.

Of course not. Dimwinger corruptions is not a crime.

Paying someone a salary because their father is VP is not a crime.

A VP threatening to blackmail Ukraine by withholding a billion in military aid should they not fire a prosecutor investigating a corrupt company his son was getting bribes to the tune of 50,000 a month is certainly a crime.

Jesus fuck. When are you assfucks going to quit lying about this?

Biden is on tape bragging about how he got the prosecutor fired that was looking into corruption and the company his son was getting 50,000 a month for his good looks.

 

[Nostra]

The left is looking forward to running against Trump and the Republicans that support him

Exactly what they said in 2016.

 

[MAGAman]

More victimhood from Conservatives

Wrong again.

We wiped our asses with the useless accord.

 

[Roudy]

This is the reason for this bullshit impeachment charade:

Trump in a landslide? This historically accurate model predicts exactly that

The Dems really have no more moves left, they're going to get slaughtered in 2020, and we might not even have a fully functioning Democratic Party after Nov. 2020. Leftie news organizations like CNN, WAPO, NYTimes, MSNBC etc. will make their hack propagandists posing as journalists walk the plank as well.

That's right, keep on insulting the majority of people in states, counties, and cities that voted for Trump, lets see how far it gets you guys. According to Moody's it's going to backfire bigly.

 

[Roudy]

Of course not. Dimwinger corruptions is not a crime.

Paying someone a salary because their father is VP is not a crime.

So you would be good with Putin paying Don Jr. a billion dollars because Daddy is President?

It wasn't the president of Ukraine paying Hunter Biden; it was a private company.

Ok, one of the companies Putin runs.

Now what?

Burisma is not run by the president of Ukraine.

So Hunter Biden was getting 50,000 a month just for his good looks? Your opinion is that there is no corruption or bribery involved that's worth looking into there? oh I forgot, he's a Democratic leaders son.

 

[Roudy]

A VP threatening to blackmail Ukraine by withholding a billion in military aid should they not fire a prosecutor investigating a corrupt company his son was getting bribes to the tune of 50,000 a month is certainly a crime.

Stop lying. His son's company was not under investigation when Biden threatened to hold up the money.

WSJ News Exclusive | Trump Repeatedly Pressed Ukraine President to Investigate Biden’s Son

Mr. Giuliani has suggested Mr. Biden’s motivation was to protect his son, a lawyer who has been involved in several investment and consulting firms, although Mr. Shokin had already completed his investigation of Burisma Group before he left office.​

So when Shokin said that he was fired because of investigation, he was lying?

Of course he was. Every news article, left, center & right, that reported on this has reported there was no active investigation into Burisma or Hunter Biden when Biden threatened to hold up the funds. Every Ukrainian except for Shokin who spoke about this said there was no active investigation into Burisma or Hunter Biden when Biden threatened to hold up the funds.

The only one to say the investigation was open was Shokin. And he only said that on September 4th of this year. And he has an axe to grind against Joe Biden who got him fired.

So what you're saying, Shokin said it because he held a grudge for Biden having him fired.

According to the tape where Biden bragging about firing of Shokin, the one holding a grudge is Biden himself.

Biden got Shokin fired. Here we are, 3½ years later, and the only one saying Shokin was actively investigating Burisma is Shokin. And he only started saying that 2 months ago after talking with Rudy Giuliani, who was trying to help Shokin gain admittance to the U.S.

Biden had skin in the game so he stepped in and used the military aid to Ukraine as blackmail to get the prosecutor that was looking into corruption of companies like Burismo fired. In other words he acted like a mob boss to save his son's ass.

 

[Faun]

So? That's not a crime.

Of course not. Dimwinger corruptions is not a crime.

Paying someone a salary because their father is VP is not a crime.

A VP threatening to blackmail Ukraine by withholding a billion in military aid should they not fire a prosecutor investigating a corrupt company his son was getting bribes to the tune of 50,000 a month is certainly a crime.

Jesus fuck. When are you assfucks going to quit lying about this?

Biden is on tape bragging about how he got the prosecutor fired that was looking into corruption and the company his son was getting 50,000 a month for his good looks.

You're lying. Post a news article stating the investigation into Burisma was active when Biden did that...

 

[Roudy]

Again, that is not a transcript. It says on the document that it is not a transcript.

Again... You've got nobody that disputes its accuracy.

The impeachment is based on 2nd hand information of someone that didn't "feel" it was proper.

Like all Fascists, you've got an investigation looking for a crime.

Vindman was present at the conversation, and he testified that key points of the conversation were left out of what the white house released. A first hand witness disputes it's accuracy.

Vindman's boss said he saw nothing wrong with the conversation or the transcript, and nothing was omitted. In other words Vindman is a deep state hack that was activated after Mueller's collusion lunacy fell flat.

 

[Wry Catcher]

This is the reason for this bullshit impeachment charade:

Trump in a landslide? This historically accurate model predicts exactly that

The Dems really have no more moves left, they're going to get slaughtered in 2020, and we might not even have a fully functioning Democratic Party after Nov. 2020. Leftie news organizations like CNN, WAPO, NYTimes, MSNBC etc. will make their hack propagandists posing as journalists walk the plank as well.

That's right, keep on insulting the majority of people in states, counties, and cities that voted for Trump, lets see how far it gets you guys. According to Moody's it's going to backfire bigly.

Those who will still vote for trump are stupid, they will vote for him even if God were his opponent. No one will vote for trump out of spite, they will vote for trump because he tells them what they want to hear.

He's a classic demagogue, and a charlatan.

What is it that will cause you to vote for trump, when you know he's a liar?

 

[Faun]

Stop lying. His son's company was not under investigation when Biden threatened to hold up the money.

WSJ News Exclusive | Trump Repeatedly Pressed Ukraine President to Investigate Biden’s Son

Mr. Giuliani has suggested Mr. Biden’s motivation was to protect his son, a lawyer who has been involved in several investment and consulting firms, although Mr. Shokin had already completed his investigation of Burisma Group before he left office.​

So when Shokin said that he was fired because of investigation, he was lying?

Of course he was. Every news article, left, center & right, that reported on this has reported there was no active investigation into Burisma or Hunter Biden when Biden threatened to hold up the funds. Every Ukrainian except for Shokin who spoke about this said there was no active investigation into Burisma or Hunter Biden when Biden threatened to hold up the funds.

The only one to say the investigation was open was Shokin. And he only said that on September 4th of this year. And he has an axe to grind against Joe Biden who got him fired.

So what you're saying, Shokin said it because he held a grudge for Biden having him fired.

According to the tape where Biden bragging about firing of Shokin, the one holding a grudge is Biden himself.

Biden got Shokin fired. Here we are, 3½ years later, and the only one saying Shokin was actively investigating Burisma is Shokin. And he only started saying that 2 months ago after talking with Rudy Giuliani, who was trying to help Shokin gain admittance to the U.S.

Biden had skin in the game so he stepped in and used the military aid to Ukraine as blackmail to get the prosecutor that was looking into corruption of companies like Burismo fired. In other words he acted like a mob boss to save his son's ass.

Liar. Biden had no skin in the game. Furthermore, he was acting on behalf of the president, who sent him.

 

[Faun]

Again, that is not a transcript. It says on the document that it is not a transcript.

Again... You've got nobody that disputes its accuracy.

The impeachment is based on 2nd hand information of someone that didn't "feel" it was proper.

Like all Fascists, you've got an investigation looking for a crime.

Vindman was present at the conversation, and he testified that key points of the conversation were left out of what the white house released. A first hand witness disputes it's accuracy.

Vindman's boss said he saw nothing wrong with the conversation or the transcript, and nothing was omitted. In other words Vindman is a deep state hack that was activated after Mueller's collusion lunacy fell flat.

Nah, the deep state is Vindman's boss who is protecting Trump. See how that works?

 

[Roudy]

Of course not. Dimwinger corruptions is not a crime.

Paying someone a salary because their father is VP is not a crime.

A VP threatening to blackmail Ukraine by withholding a billion in military aid should they not fire a prosecutor investigating a corrupt company his son was getting bribes to the tune of 50,000 a month is certainly a crime.

Jesus fuck. When are you assfucks going to quit lying about this?

Biden is on tape bragging about how he got the prosecutor fired that was looking into corruption and the company his son was getting 50,000 a month for his good looks.

You're lying. Post a news article stating the investigation into Burisma was active when Biden did that...

Even Leftie WAPO admitted that this stinks to hell, and will bring about an investigation and therefore a serious vulnerability for Biden, but you dedicated Leftie hacks will still refuse to admit it:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...e35be9-4f5a-4048-8520-0baabb18ab63_story.html

A career State Department official overseeing Ukraine policy told congressional investigators this week that he had raised concerns in early 2015 about then-Vice President Joe Biden’s son serving on the board of a Ukrainian energy company but was turned away by a Biden staffer, according to three people familiar with the testimony.

George Kent, a deputy assistant secretary of state, testified Tuesday that he worried that Hunter Biden’s position at the firm Burisma Holdings would complicate efforts by U.S. diplomats to convey to Ukrainian officials the importance of avoiding conflicts of interest, said the people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of confidentiality rules surrounding the deposition.

Kent said he had concerns that Ukrainian officials would view Hunter Biden as a conduit for currying influence with his father, said the people. But when Kent raised the issue with Biden’s office, he was told the then-vice president didn’t have the “bandwidth” to deal with the issue involving his son as his other son, Beau, was battling cancer, said the people familiar with his testimony.

 

[Roudy]

Again, that is not a transcript. It says on the document that it is not a transcript.

Again... You've got nobody that disputes its accuracy.

The impeachment is based on 2nd hand information of someone that didn't "feel" it was proper.

Like all Fascists, you've got an investigation looking for a crime.

Vindman was present at the conversation, and he testified that key points of the conversation were left out of what the white house released. A first hand witness disputes it's accuracy.

Vindman's boss said he saw nothing wrong with the conversation or the transcript, and nothing was omitted. In other words Vindman is a deep state hack that was activated after Mueller's collusion lunacy fell flat.

Nah, the deep state is Vindman's boss who is protecting Trump. See how that works?

Ya sure, the deep state protecting Trump. Good joke!

Well at least you admit that Vindmans superior contradicted his testimony.

 

[Nostra]

This is the reason for this bullshit impeachment charade:

Trump in a landslide? This historically accurate model predicts exactly that

The Dems really have no more moves left, they're going to get slaughtered in 2020, and we might not even have a fully functioning Democratic Party after Nov. 2020. Leftie news organizations like CNN, WAPO, NYTimes, MSNBC etc. will make their hack propagandists posing as journalists walk the plank as well.

That's right, keep on insulting the majority of people in states, counties, and cities that voted for Trump, lets see how far it gets you guys. According to Moody's it's going to backfire bigly.

Those who will still vote for trump are stupid, they will vote for him even if God were his opponent. No one will vote for trump out of spite, they will vote for trump because he tells them what they want to hear.

He's a classic demagogue, and a charlatan.

What is it that will cause you to vote for trump, when you know he's a liar?

Why did you vote for Hillary and Obama when you knew they were liars?

 

[Roudy]

This is the reason for this bullshit impeachment charade:

Trump in a landslide? This historically accurate model predicts exactly that

The Dems really have no more moves left, they're going to get slaughtered in 2020, and we might not even have a fully functioning Democratic Party after Nov. 2020. Leftie news organizations like CNN, WAPO, NYTimes, MSNBC etc. will make their hack propagandists posing as journalists walk the plank as well.

That's right, keep on insulting the majority of people in states, counties, and cities that voted for Trump, lets see how far it gets you guys. According to Moody's it's going to backfire bigly.

Those who will still vote for trump are stupid, they will vote for him even if God were his opponent. No one will vote for trump out of spite, they will vote for trump because he tells them what they want to hear.

He's a classic demagogue, and a charlatan.

What is it that will cause you to vote for trump, when you know he's a liar?

Yes Hillary, and those who vote for anybody but Trump are superior in every way and irredeemable deplorables. Keep saying that until next November.