Why Are Americans and Conservatives So Afraid of Socialism?

[AzogtheDefiler]

What an interesting blog article on American ideas about civil responsibility and the knee jerk reaction of Americans generally, and Conservatives specifically, to fear community welfare and immediately associate it with socialism or communism. It led to her asking “What are you so afraid of?”, and she received 5 specific groups of fears:

1. I’m scared of having to pay for other people’s laziness
2. I’m scared because I don’t trust my government or other people generally
3. I’m scared because socialism leads to authoritarianism
4. I’m scared because socialists and communists kill a lot of people
5. I’m not scared, socialism always fails

She has some good responses to these fears that I can’t do just to for a short attention span. Read the link if you want. I think these fears keep America from being a great and caring nation.

Why Are Americans and Conservatives So Afraid of Socialism?
I went a little bit viral on TikTok recently for voicing the unthinkable: I said that I like paying taxes. As you might imagine, the Americans and Conservatives in my comment section were shocked and appalled. The words communist and socialist were thrown around like insults, images of gulags and famine were invoked to prove some kind of vague and poorly-articulated point about freedom.

In contrast, the (predominantly western/northern) Europeans seemed to find my explanation pretty fair and even stopped to correct me on some of the finer points of Scottish, Scandinavian and German socialist democracy.

What shocked me, however, was not that so many Americans and Conservatives seemed to misunderstand fundamental aspects of civil life — like taxation — but that so many seemed so vehemently opposed to any suggestion that we should all contribute to the collective welfare of our countrymen.

Curiosity piqued, yesterday I made the mistake of asking Americans and Conservatives: “What is it about communism/socialism that scares you?” Here’s what they said.

I ll go with 1. Thanks for asking

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Anyone who rejects socialism obviously does not at all understand it.
A prime example is health care.
The US has one of the worst health care systems in the world, murdering about 100,000 people a year out of medical malpractice, yet costing more than twice what health care costs in any other country.

Why is that?
Because we allowed health insurance companies to take over health care with a monopoly, where is you do not join their prepaid plan, you are locked out of all access.
And by prepaying to a third party, you lose all control over quality or cost.

You have to work and network with the right doctors. Easy to do in MA. I agree that the insurance systems sucks. I prefer free markets.

 

[WTH_Progs?]

What an interesting blog article on American ideas about civil responsibility and the knee jerk reaction of Americans generally, and Conservatives specifically, to fear community welfare and immediately associate it with socialism or communism. It led to her asking “What are you so afraid of?”, and she received 5 specific groups of fears:

1. I’m scared of having to pay for other people’s laziness
2. I’m scared because I don’t trust my government or other people generally
3. I’m scared because socialism leads to authoritarianism
4. I’m scared because socialists and communists kill a lot of people
5. I’m not scared, socialism always fails

She has some good responses to these fears that I can’t do just to for a short attention span. Read the link if you want. I think these fears keep America from being a great and caring nation.

Why Are Americans and Conservatives So Afraid of Socialism?
I went a little bit viral on TikTok recently for voicing the unthinkable: I said that I like paying taxes. As you might imagine, the Americans and Conservatives in my comment section were shocked and appalled. The words communist and socialist were thrown around like insults, images of gulags and famine were invoked to prove some kind of vague and poorly-articulated point about freedom.

In contrast, the (predominantly western/northern) Europeans seemed to find my explanation pretty fair and even stopped to correct me on some of the finer points of Scottish, Scandinavian and German socialist democracy.

What shocked me, however, was not that so many Americans and Conservatives seemed to misunderstand fundamental aspects of civil life — like taxation — but that so many seemed so vehemently opposed to any suggestion that we should all contribute to the collective welfare of our countrymen.

Curiosity piqued, yesterday I made the mistake of asking Americans and Conservatives: “What is it about communism/socialism that scares you?” Here’s what they said.

Marxist

 

[Colin norris]

There are no private property rights. Everyone owns a certain property

The means of production is state owned. There are no private businesses. Everyone owns the businesses

Whatever your fantasy of Socialism is, it is based on these 2 points only

You are an ignorant fool at best. Clearly you know nothing about socialism other than the shit you have been spoon fed
Since birth.
We have socialist policies in play now and have been since the beginning. Every modern western society is built on socialism. There's no other way for government services to be funded.
It's that government health care that you all baulk at because you think it will eventually lead to genocide. You know nothing about it because you've never experienced it. Just let big health rip you off every month.
You know nothing about it.

 

[IM2]

Here we are in a capitalist system enriching the top one percent and proud to say we get npt return or dividends on the taxes we pay.

Stump stupid.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Carter kicked it off and we've been cruising. Actually ray gun and bubba look like penny pinchers compared to shrub, zero, orange man, and invalid.

Carter didn't triple the debt, that was Reagan.

Reagan has tripled the Gross Federal Debt, from $900 billion to $2.7 trillion. Ford and Carter in their combined terms could only double it. It took 31 years to accomplish the first postwar debt tripling, yet Reagan did it in eight.

 

[elektra]

This OP is a false premise. Not one bit of truth in the OP.

First and foremost, historically, until the rise of socialism in the USA we did not need social programs.

We gave millions of people, JOBS.

Further, we gave the whole world jobs while at the same time we were fighting the lousy parasite socialists who instead of building, were stealing.

 

[22lcidw]

You are an ignorant fool at best. Clearly you know nothing about socialism other than the shit you have been spoon fed
Since birth.
We have socialist policies in play now and have been since the beginning. Every modern western society is built on socialism. There's no other way for government services to be funded.
It's that government health care that you all baulk at because you think it will eventually lead to genocide. You know nothing about it because you've never experienced it. Just let big health rip you off every month.
You know nothing about it.

That is not true about socialist policies. Before the mid 1960's Great Society and Immigration Act changes people coming here were on their own and needed to be sponsored by someone. It is the constant expanding of social programs where there is an issue. Stop it. Let the the foundation grow from the past programs.

 

[The_Lyrical_Miracle]

Name a single family, tribe, or any small organization that is not communist?

That’s easy.. my family, and I would imagine most.

My wife and I make individual choices based on what we personally want to do, we don’t have a govt body that allocates what we do. If I go out and blow the mortgage and savings gambling… I have to deal with the individual consequences of such an act, but it’s not illegal.. I won’t be fined or put in jail for it by an authority who preaches about “the greater good”

 

[Blues Man]

What an interesting blog article on American ideas about civil responsibility and the knee jerk reaction of Americans generally, and Conservatives specifically, to fear community welfare and immediately associate it with socialism or communism. It led to her asking “What are you so afraid of?”, and she received 5 specific groups of fears:

1. I’m scared of having to pay for other people’s laziness
2. I’m scared because I don’t trust my government or other people generally
3. I’m scared because socialism leads to authoritarianism
4. I’m scared because socialists and communists kill a lot of people
5. I’m not scared, socialism always fails

She has some good responses to these fears that I can’t do just to for a short attention span. Read the link if you want. I think these fears keep America from being a great and caring nation.

Why Are Americans and Conservatives So Afraid of Socialism?
I went a little bit viral on TikTok recently for voicing the unthinkable: I said that I like paying taxes. As you might imagine, the Americans and Conservatives in my comment section were shocked and appalled. The words communist and socialist were thrown around like insults, images of gulags and famine were invoked to prove some kind of vague and poorly-articulated point about freedom.

In contrast, the (predominantly western/northern) Europeans seemed to find my explanation pretty fair and even stopped to correct me on some of the finer points of Scottish, Scandinavian and German socialist democracy.

What shocked me, however, was not that so many Americans and Conservatives seemed to misunderstand fundamental aspects of civil life — like taxation — but that so many seemed so vehemently opposed to any suggestion that we should all contribute to the collective welfare of our countrymen.

Curiosity piqued, yesterday I made the mistake of asking Americans and Conservatives: “What is it about communism/socialism that scares you?” Here’s what they said.

Look up the definition in the dictionary then tell me why.

 

[Flash]

On its best day government is a necessary evil.

Socialism is that evil on steroids.

 

[TNHarley]

Your main bitch is about taxes.

TNHarley Basically, I just want you authoritarian shit stains to leave me the fuck alone. You know, the way it was SUPPOSED to be.

Is that why our Founding Fathers set up a Constitution to protect you.
Why do you hate the Constitution?
You can't have it both ways.

I said that because of the Constitution. We do not have a Constitutional government. At all.

 

[citygator]

Many of these European countries have better healthcare, lower work hours, higher happiness levels, lower infant mortality, much lower poverty levels. Instead of screaming (they’re coming for my pile of dirt!) maybe we should learn from other places and adopt what works ? Nah.. let’s just peddle in fear to protect the uber-wealthy capital structure.

 

[wamose]

Conservative Americans believe in voluntary socialism where they can contribute to underfunded causes they agree with. When government forces you to contribute to things you abhor, that's where you lose your freedom and find yourself slipping into communism. Regardless of what you totalitarians think, government doesn't really do anything better than free American people can.

 

[Flash]

Conservative Americans believe in voluntary socialism where they can contribute to underfunded causes they agree with. When government forces you to contribute to things you abhor, that's where you lose your freedom and find yourself slipping into communism. Regardless of what you totalitarians think, government doesn't really do anything better than free American people can.

Absolutely!

"Voluntary Socialism" is Liberty.

Mandatory Socialism is oppression.

 

[Flash]

Many of these European countries have better healthcare, lower work hours, higher happiness levels, lower infant mortality, much lower poverty levels. Instead of screaming (they’re coming for my pile of dirt!) maybe we should learn from other places and adopt what works ? Nah.. let’s just peddle in fear to protect the uber-wealthy capital structure.
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That is bullshit Moon Bat.

You may be happy as horseshit if you are one of the worthless greedy assholes that thinks you are entitled to have somebody else to pay your bills. However, if you are the one that has to work to pay somebody's else's bills then you are pretty damn unhappy.

Socialism is nothing more than state sponsored thievery and slavery.

You are always confused about things like this. The US has the best health care in the world.

Some small homogeneous mostly White Capitalists countries have chose to pool their common resources for things like health care. They can do it because they have more honest political leaders than we do and they don't have the massive number of welfare queens that we have. If we ship them some of the millions of Negroes and Illegals that fuck up our country their country would be fucked up and their pooled programs bankrupted.

 

[DBA]

It is pretty telling that the richest and the most powerful country in the world has a group of folks who want to emulate the lesser countries.

The US is the Super Bowl champ for decades running and a few of the second stringers(Democrats) are suggesting they should change course and adopt the policy of those they routinely defeat. It would behoove them to listen to the first stringers if they want to continue collecting Super Bowl rings while doing little more than warming the bench.

We are quickly becoming a nation of spoiled, entitled brats.

 

[bripat9643]

So you think Scandinavian countries are worse than the US?
They don't think so.
They have much higher satisfaction ratings than we do.

Those countries are less socialist than the United States.

 

[bripat9643]

Carter didn't triple the debt, that was Reagan.

Reagan has tripled the Gross Federal Debt, from $900 billion to $2.7 trillion. Ford and Carter in their combined terms could only double it. It took 31 years to accomplish the first postwar debt tripling, yet Reagan did it in eight.

Dims in Congress approved all the budgets. They are responsible.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Dims in Congress approved all the budgets. They are responsible.

Of course they did, retard.
They twisted Reagan's arm.