Why Are Republicans So Relentlessly Cruel to the Poor?

[rightwinger]

The people of Russia won

Perhaps you could provide proof that ANYONE in Russia voted in the election, or even give evidence that Russians changed one vote in a ballot box or voting machine?

Prove me wrong
Up to five million "Russians" voted for Trump

You made the claim, you can't provide an example of one Russian voting, therefore I have proven you wrong by using your own failure to prove your claim.

You aren't very good at debating, but I'm sure you're not very good at much.

Sorry pal...It doesn't work like that

This is Trump's America...I get to make the claim, It is up to you to disprove it

Ball is in your court

I'm now ignoring this waste-of-time troll.

A moron such as yourself is unable to defeat my Trumpian logic

Thereby establishing that up to 5 million "Russians" voted for Trump






.

 

[Dschrute3]

It's a Nazi-like bully mentality. They know the poor can't stand up for themselves. They're easy to abuse. I seriously believe some greedy Republicans on this thread, would support passing laws making being poor a 'crime.' They would have no problem imprisoning them all. They would gladly 'disappear' them.

They have been playing that card for decades

As the middle class struggles and wonders why their standard of living is diminishing....Rather than point out the rich who have seen their personal wealth increase significantly....it is easier for Republicans to point to some poor person who has a cell phone




.

they shouldn't have trusted democrats who sold them down the river for vacations homes and jets

Blocked for 37 years now, dupe. Keep voting for tax cuts for the rich and corrupt GOP bubbles.

I gave you a whole list of democrat policies that have been implemented, and you're still pretending they don't have anything to do with it? Wow, the blinders are on strong in that one.

Where? BS

Republicans are working very hard to criminalize being poor. Very evil folks. They do remind you of the Nazis. Americans better be paying attention.

 

[JoeNormal]

The role of the federal government is to do what needs doing as determined by We the People

If it wasn't for Article I, you might have actually had a point. But, you don't.

You might have noticed a trend away from strict Constitutionalism. There's a reason for it. The American people have gained immeasurably from government involvement in R&D, infrastructure and a safety net. None of these things are numerated in the Constitution. Good luck convincing people they'd be better off going your way.

People have forgotten we are a Republic and NOT a straight democracy. All it would take would be for everyone to have to pay income tax and they'd start to see the light.

I have to pay income tax. Plenty of it too and even though I can see some waste in the system, the benefits of it are clear to me.

But, too many people don't pay income tax and therefore are unconcerned with the waste. And, while you see benefits, I see an unconstitutional income redistribution scam that I am embarrassed to say I supported in the past.

I would encourage you to find the waste and try to influence anyone who is in a position to reduce or eliminate it. But also, examine the ways the we all have benefitted as I spoke of previously.

 

[francoHFW]

Show me a flat tax where the rich don't end up paying less and the poor end up paying more

why do the so called poor not have to pay income tax?

If you have an income then you should pay income tax

If you want "fair" shares then a flat tax is the only way to go that way everyone pays a share that's determined to be fair for everyone

dear, the poor and Mr. Trump, pay the taxes they are legally obligated to pay.

don't complain; be Patriotic.

well I believe that argument comes from the common complaint from the left of 'fair share'. so if what you say is true, then why does the left constantly make that statement?

A fat tax is a gold mine for the rich, and if you count all tax we already have it DUHHHH.
At the heart of the debate over "the 47 percent" is an awful abuse of tax data.

This entire conversation is the result of a (largely successful) effort to redefine the debate over taxes from "how much in taxes do you pay" to "how much in federal income taxes do you pay?" This is good framing if you want to cut taxes on the rich. It's bad framing if you want to have even a basic understanding of who pays how much in taxes.

There's a reason some would prefer that more limited conversation. For most Americans, payroll and state and local taxes make up the majority of their tax bill. The federal income tax, by contrast, is our most progressive tax -- it's the tax we've designed to place the heaviest burden on the rich while bypassing the poor. And we've done that, again, because the working class is already paying a fairly high tax bill through payroll and state and local taxes.

But most people don't know very much about the tax code. And the federal income tax is still our most famous tax. So when they hear that half of Americans aren't paying federal income taxes, they're outraged -- even if they're among the folks who have a net negative tax burden! After all, they know they're paying taxes, and there's no reason for normal human beings to assume that the taxes getting taken out of their paycheck every week and some of the taxes they pay at the end of the year aren't classified as "federal income taxes."

Confining the discussion to the federal income tax plays another role, too: It makes the tax code look much more progressive than it actually is.

Take someone who makes $4 million dollars a year and someone who makes $40,000 a year. The person making $4 million dollars, assuming he's not doing some Romney-esque planning, is paying a 35 percent tax on most of that money. The person making $40,000 is probably paying no income tax at all. So that makes the system look really unfair to the rich guy.

That's the basic analysis of the 47 percent line. And it's a basic analysis that serves a purpose: It makes further tax cuts for the rich sound more reasonable.

But what if we did the same thing for the payroll tax? Remember, the payroll tax only applies to first $110,100 or so, our rich friends is only paying payroll taxes on 2.7 percent of his income. The guy making $40,000? He's paying payroll taxes on every dollar of his income. Now who's not getting a fair shake?

Which is why, if you want to understand who's paying what in taxes, you don't want to just look at federal income taxes, or federal payroll taxes, or state sales taxes -- you want to look at total taxes. And, luckily, the tax analysis group Citizens for Tax Justice keeps those numbers. So here is total taxes -- which includes corporate taxes, income taxes, payroll taxes, state sales taxes, and more -- paid by different income groups and broken into federal and state and local burdens:

As you can see, the poorer you are, the more state and local taxes bite into your income.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj8q-DvvvzSAhWnz4MKHVomCxMQFggrMAU&url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2012/09/19/heres-why-the-47-percent-argument-is-an-abuse-of-tax-data/&usg=AFQjCNE_8LZl_VB-o4FAbNsJrxLxLCPy8g&sig2=vzWAUkHaeGf_rAbQCHo5SQ

Sounds like a good reason to cut taxes on everyone. I can't imagine that every federal program couldn't find 2% of waste to cut, or heck, just lock the budget to inflation for a decade or so and you'd make up the difference in no time.

Not the bloated rich ferchrissake! Waste my ass.

 

[Dschrute3]

Folks should check out what happened in Brazil before the Olympics. The Government systematically arrested and imprisoned their poor homeless. Most haven't been heard from since. It's the kind of awful thing most Republicans fully support. They'd gladly do that here.

In fact, they are doing it in some areas of the country. Thousands of poor homeless folks are being arrested and imprisoned daily. And what's their crime? They're poor. Many, not all Republicans, are resembling Nazis more & more. Americans better wake up to what's going on.

That's remarkably dumb.

Is it? I think most Republicans fully support what the Brazilian Government did. In fact, Republicans are currently doing it in some areas of the US. They're arresting poor homeless by the thousands. If they aren't stopped, the Republicans will take it further & further. I could see some sort of Homeless 'Concentration Camps.'

Now you're just hyperventilating. That's dumb.

No, Republicans are currently arresting poor homeless folks and shoving them into cages to rot. It is happening. They're in the process of making being poor a crime. It is very Nazi-like. But hopefully Americans won't allow them too much power. Because they will 'Disappear' our poor. They despise the least fortunate among us.

Provide evidence of that, please.

It is happening, mainly in Republican-controlled areas. They're arresting folks for merely being poor. It's shameful.

 

[hunarcy]

If it wasn't for Article I, you might have actually had a point. But, you don't.

You might have noticed a trend away from strict Constitutionalism. There's a reason for it. The American people have gained immeasurably from government involvement in R&D, infrastructure and a safety net. None of these things are numerated in the Constitution. Good luck convincing people they'd be better off going your way.

People have forgotten we are a Republic and NOT a straight democracy. All it would take would be for everyone to have to pay income tax and they'd start to see the light.

I have to pay income tax. Plenty of it too and even though I can see some waste in the system, the benefits of it are clear to me.

But, too many people don't pay income tax and therefore are unconcerned with the waste. And, while you see benefits, I see an unconstitutional income redistribution scam that I am embarrassed to say I supported in the past.

I would encourage you to find the waste and try to influence anyone who is in a position to reduce or eliminate it. But also, examine the ways the we all have benefitted as I spoke of previously.

We all benefit when Government taxes only cover the legitimate debts and duties of our nation under the Constitution and leave us with the rest of OUR money.

 

[francoHFW]

The role of the federal government is to do what needs doing as determined by We the People

If it wasn't for Article I, you might have actually had a point. But, you don't.

You might have noticed a trend away from strict Constitutionalism. There's a reason for it. The American people have gained immeasurably from government involvement in R&D, infrastructure and a safety net. None of these things are numerated in the Constitution. Good luck convincing people they'd be better off going your way.

People have forgotten we are a Republic and NOT a straight democracy. All it would take would be for everyone to have to pay income tax and they'd start to see the light.

I have to pay income tax. Plenty of it too and even though I can see some waste in the system, the benefits of it are clear to me.

But, too many people don't pay income tax and therefore are unconcerned with the waste. And, while you see benefits, I see an unconstitutional income redistribution scam that I am embarrassed to say I supported in the past.

Get over the GOP propaganda that makes you obsess on our ONE progressive tax. Payroll tax is more than Fed income tax, and if you count all taxes we have a flat tax, screwing the nonrich and basically all the new wealth staying with the rich.
https://www.google.com/url? sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj8q-DvvvzSAhWnz4MKHVomCxMQFggrMAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Fnews%2Fwonk%2Fwp%2F2012%2F09%2F19%2Fheres-why-the-47-percent-argument-is-an-abuse-of-tax-data%2F&usg=AFQjCNE_8LZl_VB-o4FAbNsJrxLxLCPy8g&sig2=vzWAUkHaeGf_rAbQCHo5SQ

 

[hadit]

It's a Nazi-like bully mentality. They know the poor can't stand up for themselves. They're easy to abuse. I seriously believe some greedy Republicans on this thread, would support passing laws making being poor a 'crime.' They would have no problem imprisoning them all. They would gladly 'disappear' them.

They have been playing that card for decades

As the middle class struggles and wonders why their standard of living is diminishing....Rather than point out the rich who have seen their personal wealth increase significantly....it is easier for Republicans to point to some poor person who has a cell phone




.

they shouldn't have trusted democrats who sold them down the river for vacations homes and jets

Blocked for 37 years now, dupe. Keep voting for tax cuts for the rich and corrupt GOP bubbles.

I gave you a whole list of democrat policies that have been implemented, and you're still pretending they don't have anything to do with it? Wow, the blinders are on strong in that one.

Where? BS

Okay, here's a short list, since you seem unaware of history:

We can't stop a man from following a 10 year old girl into a locker room at the gym.

People can be forced to participate in ceremonies they object to.

We have to buy health insurance that covers things we neither want nor need.

FMLA.

Motor Voter.

EITC expansion.

100,000 cops on the street.

Brady Act.

Early Head Start.

Assault weapons ban.

Three strikes.

Still want to whine that democrats have been stopped the last 35 years?

 

[hadit]

They have been playing that card for decades

As the middle class struggles and wonders why their standard of living is diminishing....Rather than point out the rich who have seen their personal wealth increase significantly....it is easier for Republicans to point to some poor person who has a cell phone




.

they shouldn't have trusted democrats who sold them down the river for vacations homes and jets

Blocked for 37 years now, dupe. Keep voting for tax cuts for the rich and corrupt GOP bubbles.

I gave you a whole list of democrat policies that have been implemented, and you're still pretending they don't have anything to do with it? Wow, the blinders are on strong in that one.

Where? BS

Republicans are working very hard to criminalize being poor. Very evil folks. They do remind you of the Nazis. Americans better be paying attention.

Evidence?

 

[hadit]

That's remarkably dumb.

Is it? I think most Republicans fully support what the Brazilian Government did. In fact, Republicans are currently doing it in some areas of the US. They're arresting poor homeless by the thousands. If they aren't stopped, the Republicans will take it further & further. I could see some sort of Homeless 'Concentration Camps.'

Now you're just hyperventilating. That's dumb.

No, Republicans are currently arresting poor homeless folks and shoving them into cages to rot. It is happening. They're in the process of making being poor a crime. It is very Nazi-like. But hopefully Americans won't allow them too much power. Because they will 'Disappear' our poor. They despise the least fortunate among us.

Provide evidence of that, please.

It is happening, mainly in Republican-controlled areas. They're arresting folks for merely being poor. It's shameful.

So just your imagination then?

 

[francoHFW]

We are not Bangladesh. This is America, land of the brave, home of the free. Here, there are endless possibilities. I think Rush Limbaugh highlighted the problem many times on his show.

"Folks, if you pay people not to work, don't be surprised when they don't!"

So here is the stupidity of all this: We have jobs that American's won't do, and we have people in poverty because they don't have enough money. Are you starting to catch on yet?????

You say we need programs to cater to people that don't want to work all because of the kids. Well these people use their kids just like you do. They use them as levers to get what they want without having to get a job.

If we had a law that if you can't support your kids, they go up for adoption, you'd see how fast those jobs would be taken. Furthermore we need a law that states if you want public assistance, you have to get fixed first. No more going on public assistance and having more kids.

So now, if we did things my way, don't you think we would end up with much less poverty in the future than doing it your way? After all, your way has failed repeatedly. Maybe it's about damn time we start doing things my way and you'll see the drastic improvement in poverty and jobs in the US.

dude, read up on what Mike Rowe is coordinating. he is a on a march to bring back tech programs for highschools. Holy fk the libs intentionally put people out of work. Intentionally. we have the facts.

Mike Rowe on How to Combat Unemployment & the Skills Gap

"Rowe said there are 5.6 million job openings waiting to be filled in fields that for the most part do not require a bachelor's degree."

While the GOP blocks all Dem efforts to have cheap tech training and cheap college loans and cheap public college FOREVER. Great job, with 3-6 million tech jobs going begging. Mike Rowe is an irrelevant talking point, dupe.

Evidence?

Reality, stupid. CHANGE THE GD CHANNEL. Read something.

So it's just your imagination then.

Ignorant brainwashed functional moron^^ Hasn't heard of Dem proposals for cheap college loans, public U's, community colleges, training programs, and GOP "DOA"....change the channel! Yet totally up on thousands of fake news on Hillary corruption lol...

 

[hadit]

why do the so called poor not have to pay income tax?

If you have an income then you should pay income tax

If you want "fair" shares then a flat tax is the only way to go that way everyone pays a share that's determined to be fair for everyone

dear, the poor and Mr. Trump, pay the taxes they are legally obligated to pay.

don't complain; be Patriotic.

well I believe that argument comes from the common complaint from the left of 'fair share'. so if what you say is true, then why does the left constantly make that statement?

A fat tax is a gold mine for the rich, and if you count all tax we already have it DUHHHH.
At the heart of the debate over "the 47 percent" is an awful abuse of tax data.

This entire conversation is the result of a (largely successful) effort to redefine the debate over taxes from "how much in taxes do you pay" to "how much in federal income taxes do you pay?" This is good framing if you want to cut taxes on the rich. It's bad framing if you want to have even a basic understanding of who pays how much in taxes.

There's a reason some would prefer that more limited conversation. For most Americans, payroll and state and local taxes make up the majority of their tax bill. The federal income tax, by contrast, is our most progressive tax -- it's the tax we've designed to place the heaviest burden on the rich while bypassing the poor. And we've done that, again, because the working class is already paying a fairly high tax bill through payroll and state and local taxes.

But most people don't know very much about the tax code. And the federal income tax is still our most famous tax. So when they hear that half of Americans aren't paying federal income taxes, they're outraged -- even if they're among the folks who have a net negative tax burden! After all, they know they're paying taxes, and there's no reason for normal human beings to assume that the taxes getting taken out of their paycheck every week and some of the taxes they pay at the end of the year aren't classified as "federal income taxes."

Confining the discussion to the federal income tax plays another role, too: It makes the tax code look much more progressive than it actually is.

Take someone who makes $4 million dollars a year and someone who makes $40,000 a year. The person making $4 million dollars, assuming he's not doing some Romney-esque planning, is paying a 35 percent tax on most of that money. The person making $40,000 is probably paying no income tax at all. So that makes the system look really unfair to the rich guy.

That's the basic analysis of the 47 percent line. And it's a basic analysis that serves a purpose: It makes further tax cuts for the rich sound more reasonable.

But what if we did the same thing for the payroll tax? Remember, the payroll tax only applies to first $110,100 or so, our rich friends is only paying payroll taxes on 2.7 percent of his income. The guy making $40,000? He's paying payroll taxes on every dollar of his income. Now who's not getting a fair shake?

Which is why, if you want to understand who's paying what in taxes, you don't want to just look at federal income taxes, or federal payroll taxes, or state sales taxes -- you want to look at total taxes. And, luckily, the tax analysis group Citizens for Tax Justice keeps those numbers. So here is total taxes -- which includes corporate taxes, income taxes, payroll taxes, state sales taxes, and more -- paid by different income groups and broken into federal and state and local burdens:

As you can see, the poorer you are, the more state and local taxes bite into your income.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj8q-DvvvzSAhWnz4MKHVomCxMQFggrMAU&url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2012/09/19/heres-why-the-47-percent-argument-is-an-abuse-of-tax-data/&usg=AFQjCNE_8LZl_VB-o4FAbNsJrxLxLCPy8g&sig2=vzWAUkHaeGf_rAbQCHo5SQ

Sounds like a good reason to cut taxes on everyone. I can't imagine that every federal program couldn't find 2% of waste to cut, or heck, just lock the budget to inflation for a decade or so and you'd make up the difference in no time.

Not the bloated rich ferchrissake! Waste my ass.

You really don't think every program could find 2% to cut? That's dumb. Heck, we could do away with whole programs by consolidating and streamlining.

 

[hadit]

dude, read up on what Mike Rowe is coordinating. he is a on a march to bring back tech programs for highschools. Holy fk the libs intentionally put people out of work. Intentionally. we have the facts.

Mike Rowe on How to Combat Unemployment & the Skills Gap

"Rowe said there are 5.6 million job openings waiting to be filled in fields that for the most part do not require a bachelor's degree."

While the GOP blocks all Dem efforts to have cheap tech training and cheap college loans and cheap public college FOREVER. Great job, with 3-6 million tech jobs going begging. Mike Rowe is an irrelevant talking point, dupe.

Evidence?

Reality, stupid. CHANGE THE GD CHANNEL. Read something.

So it's just your imagination then.

Ignorant brainwashed functional moron^^ Hasn't heard of Dem proposals for cheap college loans, public U's, community colleges, training programs, and GOP "DOA"....change the channel!

So, just your imagination then?

 

[francoHFW]

dear, the poor and Mr. Trump, pay the taxes they are legally obligated to pay.

don't complain; be Patriotic.

well I believe that argument comes from the common complaint from the left of 'fair share'. so if what you say is true, then why does the left constantly make that statement?

A fat tax is a gold mine for the rich, and if you count all tax we already have it DUHHHH.
At the heart of the debate over "the 47 percent" is an awful abuse of tax data.

This entire conversation is the result of a (largely successful) effort to redefine the debate over taxes from "how much in taxes do you pay" to "how much in federal income taxes do you pay?" This is good framing if you want to cut taxes on the rich. It's bad framing if you want to have even a basic understanding of who pays how much in taxes.

There's a reason some would prefer that more limited conversation. For most Americans, payroll and state and local taxes make up the majority of their tax bill. The federal income tax, by contrast, is our most progressive tax -- it's the tax we've designed to place the heaviest burden on the rich while bypassing the poor. And we've done that, again, because the working class is already paying a fairly high tax bill through payroll and state and local taxes.

But most people don't know very much about the tax code. And the federal income tax is still our most famous tax. So when they hear that half of Americans aren't paying federal income taxes, they're outraged -- even if they're among the folks who have a net negative tax burden! After all, they know they're paying taxes, and there's no reason for normal human beings to assume that the taxes getting taken out of their paycheck every week and some of the taxes they pay at the end of the year aren't classified as "federal income taxes."

Confining the discussion to the federal income tax plays another role, too: It makes the tax code look much more progressive than it actually is.

Take someone who makes $4 million dollars a year and someone who makes $40,000 a year. The person making $4 million dollars, assuming he's not doing some Romney-esque planning, is paying a 35 percent tax on most of that money. The person making $40,000 is probably paying no income tax at all. So that makes the system look really unfair to the rich guy.

That's the basic analysis of the 47 percent line. And it's a basic analysis that serves a purpose: It makes further tax cuts for the rich sound more reasonable.

But what if we did the same thing for the payroll tax? Remember, the payroll tax only applies to first $110,100 or so, our rich friends is only paying payroll taxes on 2.7 percent of his income. The guy making $40,000? He's paying payroll taxes on every dollar of his income. Now who's not getting a fair shake?

Which is why, if you want to understand who's paying what in taxes, you don't want to just look at federal income taxes, or federal payroll taxes, or state sales taxes -- you want to look at total taxes. And, luckily, the tax analysis group Citizens for Tax Justice keeps those numbers. So here is total taxes -- which includes corporate taxes, income taxes, payroll taxes, state sales taxes, and more -- paid by different income groups and broken into federal and state and local burdens:

As you can see, the poorer you are, the more state and local taxes bite into your income.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj8q-DvvvzSAhWnz4MKHVomCxMQFggrMAU&url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2012/09/19/heres-why-the-47-percent-argument-is-an-abuse-of-tax-data/&usg=AFQjCNE_8LZl_VB-o4FAbNsJrxLxLCPy8g&sig2=vzWAUkHaeGf_rAbQCHo5SQ

Sounds like a good reason to cut taxes on everyone. I can't imagine that every federal program couldn't find 2% of waste to cut, or heck, just lock the budget to inflation for a decade or so and you'd make up the difference in no time.

Not the bloated rich ferchrissake! Waste my ass.

You really don't think every program could find 2% to cut? That's dumb. Heck, we could do away with whole programs by consolidating and streamlining.

Until you actually try it...

 

[hadit]

well I believe that argument comes from the common complaint from the left of 'fair share'. so if what you say is true, then why does the left constantly make that statement?

A fat tax is a gold mine for the rich, and if you count all tax we already have it DUHHHH.
At the heart of the debate over "the 47 percent" is an awful abuse of tax data.

This entire conversation is the result of a (largely successful) effort to redefine the debate over taxes from "how much in taxes do you pay" to "how much in federal income taxes do you pay?" This is good framing if you want to cut taxes on the rich. It's bad framing if you want to have even a basic understanding of who pays how much in taxes.

There's a reason some would prefer that more limited conversation. For most Americans, payroll and state and local taxes make up the majority of their tax bill. The federal income tax, by contrast, is our most progressive tax -- it's the tax we've designed to place the heaviest burden on the rich while bypassing the poor. And we've done that, again, because the working class is already paying a fairly high tax bill through payroll and state and local taxes.

But most people don't know very much about the tax code. And the federal income tax is still our most famous tax. So when they hear that half of Americans aren't paying federal income taxes, they're outraged -- even if they're among the folks who have a net negative tax burden! After all, they know they're paying taxes, and there's no reason for normal human beings to assume that the taxes getting taken out of their paycheck every week and some of the taxes they pay at the end of the year aren't classified as "federal income taxes."

Confining the discussion to the federal income tax plays another role, too: It makes the tax code look much more progressive than it actually is.

Take someone who makes $4 million dollars a year and someone who makes $40,000 a year. The person making $4 million dollars, assuming he's not doing some Romney-esque planning, is paying a 35 percent tax on most of that money. The person making $40,000 is probably paying no income tax at all. So that makes the system look really unfair to the rich guy.

That's the basic analysis of the 47 percent line. And it's a basic analysis that serves a purpose: It makes further tax cuts for the rich sound more reasonable.

But what if we did the same thing for the payroll tax? Remember, the payroll tax only applies to first $110,100 or so, our rich friends is only paying payroll taxes on 2.7 percent of his income. The guy making $40,000? He's paying payroll taxes on every dollar of his income. Now who's not getting a fair shake?

Which is why, if you want to understand who's paying what in taxes, you don't want to just look at federal income taxes, or federal payroll taxes, or state sales taxes -- you want to look at total taxes. And, luckily, the tax analysis group Citizens for Tax Justice keeps those numbers. So here is total taxes -- which includes corporate taxes, income taxes, payroll taxes, state sales taxes, and more -- paid by different income groups and broken into federal and state and local burdens:

As you can see, the poorer you are, the more state and local taxes bite into your income.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj8q-DvvvzSAhWnz4MKHVomCxMQFggrMAU&url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2012/09/19/heres-why-the-47-percent-argument-is-an-abuse-of-tax-data/&usg=AFQjCNE_8LZl_VB-o4FAbNsJrxLxLCPy8g&sig2=vzWAUkHaeGf_rAbQCHo5SQ

Sounds like a good reason to cut taxes on everyone. I can't imagine that every federal program couldn't find 2% of waste to cut, or heck, just lock the budget to inflation for a decade or so and you'd make up the difference in no time.

Not the bloated rich ferchrissake! Waste my ass.

You really don't think every program could find 2% to cut? That's dumb. Heck, we could do away with whole programs by consolidating and streamlining.

Until you actually try it...

Still claiming the democrats were totally stopped the last 35 years?

 

[Dschrute3]

they shouldn't have trusted democrats who sold them down the river for vacations homes and jets

Blocked for 37 years now, dupe. Keep voting for tax cuts for the rich and corrupt GOP bubbles.

I gave you a whole list of democrat policies that have been implemented, and you're still pretending they don't have anything to do with it? Wow, the blinders are on strong in that one.

Where? BS

Republicans are working very hard to criminalize being poor. Very evil folks. They do remind you of the Nazis. Americans better be paying attention.

Evidence?

Your hate & hostility towards our poor, is very evident. I do believe you're working hard to criminalize being poor. It is Nazi-like. It is evil.

 

[hadit]

Blocked for 37 years now, dupe. Keep voting for tax cuts for the rich and corrupt GOP bubbles.

I gave you a whole list of democrat policies that have been implemented, and you're still pretending they don't have anything to do with it? Wow, the blinders are on strong in that one.

Where? BS

Republicans are working very hard to criminalize being poor. Very evil folks. They do remind you of the Nazis. Americans better be paying attention.

Evidence?

Your hate & hostility towards our poor, is very evident. I do believe you're working hard to criminalize being poor. It is Nazi-like. It is evil.

You're providing precisely zero evidence that what you're complaining about is happening. Refusing to simply take your work for something =/= displaying hate or hostility towards the poor. Until you can provide such evidence, there is no reason to believe you, since your claim is so ridiculous.

 

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Is it? I think most Republicans fully support what the Brazilian Government did. In fact, Republicans are currently doing it in some areas of the US. They're arresting poor homeless by the thousands. If they aren't stopped, the Republicans will take it further & further. I could see some sort of Homeless 'Concentration Camps.'

Now you're just hyperventilating. That's dumb.

No, Republicans are currently arresting poor homeless folks and shoving them into cages to rot. It is happening. They're in the process of making being poor a crime. It is very Nazi-like. But hopefully Americans won't allow them too much power. Because they will 'Disappear' our poor. They despise the least fortunate among us.

Provide evidence of that, please.

It is happening, mainly in Republican-controlled areas. They're arresting folks for merely being poor. It's shameful.

So just your imagination then?

No, it's an ugly reality. Y'all are systematically arresting poor homeless folks in areas of the country. And what's their crime?... Being poor.

Y'all should be ashamed of yourselves. But you're incapable of that.

 

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And is how Warren Buffet can complain he doesn't pay enough income taxes, knowing that if they raise his rates it won't hurt him much.

Buffet is the left's favorite rich hypocrite

he takes a 100K a year salary for running one of the largest investment firms in the country then he whines that he doesn't pay enough income tax.

if he really wanted to pay more income tax he would set his salary at 10 million a year

but he won't do that now will he?

Of course not, because the REASON he ostentatiously gets such a small salary is because his REAL money is made off of his capital gains, which are taxed at a lower rate.

not my point he gets such a small salary because as CEO and founder of the company, it's what he chooses to do

Kinda went to the whole "hypocrite" thing.

Nobody pays more taxes than they have to. Except the nonrich who don't take their deductions...

every person gets a deduction on their tax form. fool

the poor with kids also get a child tax credit.

 

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I gave you a whole list of democrat policies that have been implemented, and you're still pretending they don't have anything to do with it? Wow, the blinders are on strong in that one.

Where? BS

Republicans are working very hard to criminalize being poor. Very evil folks. They do remind you of the Nazis. Americans better be paying attention.

Evidence?

Your hate & hostility towards our poor, is very evident. I do believe you're working hard to criminalize being poor. It is Nazi-like. It is evil.

You're providing precisely zero evidence that what you're complaining about is happening. Refusing to simply take your work for something =/= displaying hate or hostility towards the poor. Until you can provide such evidence, there is no reason to believe you, since your claim is so ridiculous.

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