Why are we so afraid to admit the obvious?

[BlindBoo]

Both sides do some similar things. However, so far, only one side calls the Free Press "the Enemy of the People" and taken to routinely attacking political opponents with a level of vicious vitriolic rhetoric rarely seen in the United States. Only one side calls compromise blasphemous. Only one side has taken lying to ignorant and ludicrous levels. Yes, a Bernie support went crazy and went on a shooting spree at that baseball practice. How many of those Republicans had Bernie been routinely attacking from his "bully pulpit", at all those rallies he was doing at the time?

that isn't what he said. he said the fake news is the enemy of the people. You should listen better. but we know who you are, you hate facts.

Sure thing Comrade! We all know that Fake News he refers to is all media not in the Faux/Pseudo-con Echo Chamber. He routinely singles out CNN and MSNBC. But you go right ahead and swallow his tiny trite word games. It suits y'all.

Can you imagine the howling from the rabid right had Obama called Fox fake news and the enemy of the people? My god, he would have been compared to and considered worse than Mao, Stalin, Marx and Hitler combined.

 

[BlindBoo]

Both sides do some similar things. However, so far, only one side calls the Free Press "the Enemy of the People" and taken to routinely attacking political opponents with a level of vicious vitriolic rhetoric rarely seen in the United States. Only one side calls compromise blasphemous. Only one side has taken lying to ignorant and ludicrous levels. Yes, a Bernie support went crazy and went on a shooting spree at that baseball practice. How many of those Republicans had Bernie been routinely attacking from his "bully pulpit", at all those rallies he was doing at the time?

Well it's now "OK" to heckle republicans in restaurants, and even knock the take out container from McConnell's hands. Imo, the gop brought this on themselves. Not only for supporting Trump's rally cries of violence against protestors, but also for not calling Trump out on birtherism. They cannot acquiesce to calling a president illegitmate, and then find something wrong with the worm turns on them.

And it's not going to end so long as Trump is potus.

It's happening, but I don't think it's okay to heckle them in public spaces.

 

[BlindBoo]

And I will tell you something else..this violence is put up with in the states Demcorats run. The liberal states or cities. They arent rioting in Houston are they?

Harris County went for Hillary.

 

[caddo kid]

Given the spate of recent violence, the board is understandably abuzz with threads and comments about who is to "blame". And of course, each end is essentially putting 100% of the blame on the other end. Each end is laying out a long list of examples of violence, rhetoric and incitement by the other end.

Guess what? They're both right. Facts are facts.

I have a great deal of respect for the power of ideology. It can make people say and do insane things. It can absolutely blind a person to the obvious. But is it so strong that we'd rather see this country burn down than challenge our own tribe to stop the madness?

When the hate is flowing from both ends like water from a fire hose, does it really matter which end is "worse"?

What is so terrifying about just admitting the obvious?
.

I'm 57 years old, white, male, born & raised in the deep south where bigotry was alive & well during my formative years, bigotry & hate that America, for a time, seemed to rise above. The hate & the bigotry have returned. I no longer recognize the nation I thought I once resided in; why? Because there came upon the scene a mad, Satanic character that decided it would be to someone's advantage to play on the fears, the hatred, and the prejudice of those most like himself. I'm at a point in my life where I have lived the best years of my life; the rest is just bonus points. Having said that & having realized that truth does not however disallow me to have come to the conclusion that I really no longer care about America. Why would I say such a thing? It's simple; I'm tired of assholes taking advantage of the division in this nation, and making that division worse for some agenda they have. As far as I'm concerned this nation has NO real leadership whatsoever. When your ship becomes void of leadership then that is the time to cast off the life boats. We are there, and I don't care.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Given the spate of recent violence, the board is understandably abuzz with threads and comments about who is to "blame". And of course, each end is essentially putting 100% of the blame on the other end. Each end is laying out a long list of examples of violence, rhetoric and incitement by the other end.

Guess what? They're both right. Facts are facts.

I have a great deal of respect for the power of ideology. It can make people say and do insane things. It can absolutely blind a person to the obvious. But is it so strong that we'd rather see this country burn down than challenge our own tribe to stop the madness?

When the hate is flowing from both ends like water from a fire hose, does it really matter which end is "worse"?

What is so terrifying about just admitting the obvious?
.

A Trump supporter Sent packages through the mail that contained bombs. Another idiot was so enraged by the hysteria preached by the blob about the migrants heading northward that he shot a dozen people in Pittsburgh.

No dumbass. Both sides aren’t right.

Do you really need a list of all the acts of violence committed by leftists against conservatives over the past couple of years? It's quite lengthy.

Congratuations on proving the OP's point. You are a perfect example of the problem he is talking about.

 

[Crixus]

Both sides do some similar things. However, so far, only one side calls the Free Press "the Enemy of the People" and taken to routinely attacking political opponents with a level of vicious vitriolic rhetoric rarely seen in the United States. Only one side calls compromise blasphemous. Only one side has taken lying to ignorant and ludicrous levels. Yes, a Bernie support went crazy and went on a shooting spree at that baseball practice. How many of those Republicans had Bernie been routinely attacking from his "bully pulpit", at all those rallies he was doing at the time?

Well it's now "OK" to heckle republicans in restaurants, and even knock the take out container from McConnell's hands. Imo, the gop brought this on themselves. Not only for supporting Trump's rally cries of violence against protestors, but also for not calling Trump out on birtherism. They cannot acquiesce to calling a president illegitmate, and then find something wrong with the worm turns on them.

And it's not going to end so long as Trump is potus.

Actually none of that is okay.

But none of it is remotely close to saying you’ll pay an assauter’s legal bills if he attacks someone either.

And did this come to be? The assault and the paying of legal fees? Nope.

 

[Crixus]

Given the spate of recent violence, the board is understandably abuzz with threads and comments about who is to "blame". And of course, each end is essentially putting 100% of the blame on the other end. Each end is laying out a long list of examples of violence, rhetoric and incitement by the other end.

Guess what? They're both right. Facts are facts.

I have a great deal of respect for the power of ideology. It can make people say and do insane things. It can absolutely blind a person to the obvious. But is it so strong that we'd rather see this country burn down than challenge our own tribe to stop the madness?

When the hate is flowing from both ends like water from a fire hose, does it really matter which end is "worse"?

What is so terrifying about just admitting the obvious?
.

How have you challenged your tribe?

How have you? Please, do present a pack of white dudes in MAGA schwag handing a beat down on a libtard. You can’t because it doesn’t happen. You can however find miles of video of black clad rich kids smacking old woman with American flags around though.

 

[BlindBoo]

Both sides do some similar things. However, so far, only one side calls the Free Press "the Enemy of the People" and taken to routinely attacking political opponents with a level of vicious vitriolic rhetoric rarely seen in the United States. Only one side calls compromise blasphemous. Only one side has taken lying to ignorant and ludicrous levels. Yes, a Bernie support went crazy and went on a shooting spree at that baseball practice. How many of those Republicans had Bernie been routinely attacking from his "bully pulpit", at all those rallies he was doing at the time?

You are indeed blind. The Press is horribly lopsided. And Socialists are the worst of the worst. See Venezuela.

Your post is the rantings of a triggered idiot.....and precisely why the right is beginning to fight back against your sides tyranny.

Sadistically, you and yours thought that violence and hatred against Conservatives was justified, acceptable and your domain only.
Conservatives and The Right have taken years and years of abuse in silence and tolerance. it wasn't Republican white boys playing the knock out game against blacks.
(But ONE finally returned the favor after hundreds of Democrats attacking elderly whites)
I agree...if the Left wants to continue harassing Right wingers as Maxine and MANY other Leftists advocate, then the right has absolutely no choice but to eventually begin to strike back.

The Left obviously believes it has the right to violence against those who don't agree with them, and can attack them with impunity. Sick.

You really have nothing. No examples of the other side calling your media outlet the enemy of the people? How about all those compromises we've seen proposed under this so called Administration? All you can do is deflect to the socialist bogyman and, Venezuela, oh my! Then an insult or two and a few more lies to help you feel better about all that whining.

Violence is the last resort of the incompetent.

But then again I'm not a pacifist either.

 

[buckeye45_73]

Given the spate of recent violence, the board is understandably abuzz with threads and comments about who is to "blame". And of course, each end is essentially putting 100% of the blame on the other end. Each end is laying out a long list of examples of violence, rhetoric and incitement by the other end.

Guess what? They're both right. Facts are facts.

I have a great deal of respect for the power of ideology. It can make people say and do insane things. It can absolutely blind a person to the obvious. But is it so strong that we'd rather see this country burn down than challenge our own tribe to stop the madness?

When the hate is flowing from both ends like water from a fire hose, does it really matter which end is "worse"?

What is so terrifying about just admitting the obvious?
.

A Trump supporter Sent packages through the mail that contained bombs. Another idiot was so enraged by the hysteria preached by the blob about the migrants heading northward that he shot a dozen people in Pittsburgh.

No dumbass. Both sides aren’t right.

No, they just shoot congressmen, send poison in the mail and harass the fuck out of people.....oh and they try and storm buildings like a ......what's that called......oh.... a MOB.

They should have had better security. That is what Trump recommends to murder victims. Can’t we use that for congressional shootings?

No valid comparison can be drawn between Trump’s constant hate monger and some dingbats with some screws loose

What? Trump and the republicans do not incite violence against anyone. The left does, all the time.
Maxine Watters...Do I need to link to hers?

Eric Holder
Analysis | Eric Holder: ‘When they go low, we kick them. That’s what this new Democratic Party is about.'

Kathy Griffin
https://www.wnd.com/2018/10/kathy-griffin-sells-f-trump-goods-on-twitter/

Johnny Depp
https://variety.com/2017/film/news/johnny-depp-trump-assassination-apology-1202477242/

Hilary Clinton
https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/09/politics/hillary-clinton-civility-congress-cnntv/index.html

Nicole Wallace
http://bluepillsheep.com/msnbcs-nicolle-wallace-forced-to-apologize/

James Cromwell
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainme...in-the-streets-if-democrats-dont-win-election

it's a small list, I could add more....so show me what republicans have said that was violent

 

[Crixus]

Given the spate of recent violence, the board is understandably abuzz with threads and comments about who is to "blame". And of course, each end is essentially putting 100% of the blame on the other end. Each end is laying out a long list of examples of violence, rhetoric and incitement by the other end.

Guess what? They're both right. Facts are facts.

I have a great deal of respect for the power of ideology. It can make people say and do insane things. It can absolutely blind a person to the obvious. But is it so strong that we'd rather see this country burn down than challenge our own tribe to stop the madness?

When the hate is flowing from both ends like water from a fire hose, does it really matter which end is "worse"?

What is so terrifying about just admitting the obvious?
.

A Trump supporter Sent packages through the mail that contained bombs. Another idiot was so enraged by the hysteria preached by the blob about the migrants heading northward that he shot a dozen people in Pittsburgh.

No dumbass. Both sides aren’t right.

It was a leftie who shot up the Republican baseball team. It wasn't a right winger that sent ricin to Pres Trump. In both of the "tribes" are violent extremists. Denying that won't help. I would never have called anyone so much as an "idiot" before I came here, but I've been insulted so much I'll say a lot worse than that, at times. You're not like that, so I'm not pointing this at you personally, but saying the left doesn't do it--is not accurate.

That’s true. Liberalism. Think of it like California. Meteorologicaly, The climate there is fantastic. You have rainy days and even some snow. But most of the time... fantastic climate. The incidents you speak of are the bad weather days. They happen from time to time but the norm is fantastic.

Now consider Consevatism. Constant pining for civil war, gunning down migrants calling them an invading army, a President that preaches hate, posters here who have avatars pointing a gun at the camera, constant chants of locking up your political enemies, ripping kids from their parents as a “deterrent”. I would submit that the climate of the GOP is one where most days are beautiful but the bad weather days are much more frequent.

Comparing the violence of the hard right and hard left is like comparing Cancer to a head cold. Tim Mcveigh, Eric Rudolph, and now this Trump worshiper. Just drops of water in an endless stream.

McBeigh and Rudolph were white power people. They ideologically align with democrats what with yalls tendency to put folks in groups and all.

 

[Crixus]

Given the spate of recent violence, the board is understandably abuzz with threads and comments about who is to "blame". And of course, each end is essentially putting 100% of the blame on the other end. Each end is laying out a long list of examples of violence, rhetoric and incitement by the other end.

Guess what? They're both right. Facts are facts.

I have a great deal of respect for the power of ideology. It can make people say and do insane things. It can absolutely blind a person to the obvious. But is it so strong that we'd rather see this country burn down than challenge our own tribe to stop the madness?

When the hate is flowing from both ends like water from a fire hose, does it really matter which end is "worse"?

What is so terrifying about just admitting the obvious?
.

A Trump supporter Sent packages through the mail that contained bombs. Another idiot was so enraged by the hysteria preached by the blob about the migrants heading northward that he shot a dozen people in Pittsburgh.

No dumbass. Both sides aren’t right.

Dumbest ficking post award right here. A guy is mad about illegal immigrants so he hates Jews and shoots 11? You should only be allowed to post in the rubber room. You are that big of a fucking retard.

 

[BlindBoo]

McBeigh and Rudolph were white power people.

Militant White Nationalist. Ideologically not aligned with either Democrats or Republicans.

 

[BlindBoo]

Given the spate of recent violence, the board is understandably abuzz with threads and comments about who is to "blame". And of course, each end is essentially putting 100% of the blame on the other end. Each end is laying out a long list of examples of violence, rhetoric and incitement by the other end.

Guess what? They're both right. Facts are facts.

I have a great deal of respect for the power of ideology. It can make people say and do insane things. It can absolutely blind a person to the obvious. But is it so strong that we'd rather see this country burn down than challenge our own tribe to stop the madness?

When the hate is flowing from both ends like water from a fire hose, does it really matter which end is "worse"?

What is so terrifying about just admitting the obvious?
.

A Trump supporter Sent packages through the mail that contained bombs. Another idiot was so enraged by the hysteria preached by the blob about the migrants heading northward that he shot a dozen people in Pittsburgh.

No dumbass. Both sides aren’t right.

Dumbest ficking post award right here. A guy is mad about illegal immigrants so he hates Jews and shoots 11? You should only be allowed to post in the rubber room. You are that big of a fucking retard.

HIAS.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Given the spate of recent violence, the board is understandably abuzz with threads and comments about who is to "blame". And of course, each end is essentially putting 100% of the blame on the other end. Each end is laying out a long list of examples of violence, rhetoric and incitement by the other end.

Guess what? They're both right. Facts are facts.

I have a great deal of respect for the power of ideology. It can make people say and do insane things. It can absolutely blind a person to the obvious. But is it so strong that we'd rather see this country burn down than challenge our own tribe to stop the madness?

When the hate is flowing from both ends like water from a fire hose, does it really matter which end is "worse"?

What is so terrifying about just admitting the obvious?
.

A Trump supporter Sent packages through the mail that contained bombs. Another idiot was so enraged by the hysteria preached by the blob about the migrants heading northward that he shot a dozen people in Pittsburgh.

No dumbass. Both sides aren’t right.

Do you really need a list of all the acts of violence committed by leftists against conservatives over the past couple of years? It's quite lengthy.

Congratuations on proving the OP's point. You are a perfect example of the problem he is talking about.

So are you. BTW, Let's see that list.

 

[BlindBoo]

Well, the right wingers will deny that anything has been done or said on their side that has contributed to this.

Anything.

They appear to be serious, sincere. Hence my point.
.

Rhetoric has always been there. Crazy people have always been there. Two are not necessarily equated. The Left has advocated for violence just as much as the GOP if not moreso.

Factually incorrect. I seem to have missed any Dem Presidential Nominee volunteering to pay the legal bills for those committing assault at their rallies.

Your mileage may vary

That was a joke. Obviously Leftists don't have a sense of humor. Did you miss HRC calling half the country a basket of deplorables. LOL. Or Maxine Waters or Eric Holder advocating direct violence and not apoligizing for it?

Half of Donny's supporters not half the country. And she was specific, the racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic are the one she called deplorable.

Subjective. Who is "racist" who is "sexist". What is Islamaphobia? Some dumbass Leftist definition. Phobia means FEAR. Like what you have with Trump. I am certainly not scared of radical Islam but I dislike it. Would you define me as "Islamaphobic"? Do tell?.

Of course all those terms are subjective, look at the crowd she was speaking to. So is the term deplorable. It seems to be a trigger of some kind, somehow, for some reason.

I can only give you my subjective opinion of what an Isalmaphobic. But what the point in that?

 

[jc456]

Both sides do some similar things. However, so far, only one side calls the Free Press "the Enemy of the People" and taken to routinely attacking political opponents with a level of vicious vitriolic rhetoric rarely seen in the United States. Only one side calls compromise blasphemous. Only one side has taken lying to ignorant and ludicrous levels. Yes, a Bernie support went crazy and went on a shooting spree at that baseball practice. How many of those Republicans had Bernie been routinely attacking from his "bully pulpit", at all those rallies he was doing at the time?

Well it's now "OK" to heckle republicans in restaurants, and even knock the take out container from McConnell's hands. Imo, the gop brought this on themselves. Not only for supporting Trump's rally cries of violence against protestors, but also for not calling Trump out on birtherism. They cannot acquiesce to calling a president illegitmate, and then find something wrong with the worm turns on them.

And it's not going to end so long as Trump is potus.

Actually none of that is okay.

But none of it is remotely close to saying you’ll pay an assauter’s legal bills if he attacks someone either.

no sense of humor are the leftists. too fking funny.

 

[candycorn]

Given the spate of recent violence, the board is understandably abuzz with threads and comments about who is to "blame". And of course, each end is essentially putting 100% of the blame on the other end. Each end is laying out a long list of examples of violence, rhetoric and incitement by the other end.

Guess what? They're both right. Facts are facts.

I have a great deal of respect for the power of ideology. It can make people say and do insane things. It can absolutely blind a person to the obvious. But is it so strong that we'd rather see this country burn down than challenge our own tribe to stop the madness?

When the hate is flowing from both ends like water from a fire hose, does it really matter which end is "worse"?

What is so terrifying about just admitting the obvious?
.

A Trump supporter Sent packages through the mail that contained bombs. Another idiot was so enraged by the hysteria preached by the blob about the migrants heading northward that he shot a dozen people in Pittsburgh.

No dumbass. Both sides aren’t right.

Do you really need a list of all the acts of violence committed by leftists against conservatives over the past couple of years? It's quite lengthy.

Congratuations on proving the OP's point. You are a perfect example of the problem he is talking about.

Sure...let’s see The list

 

[candycorn]

Both sides do some similar things. However, so far, only one side calls the Free Press "the Enemy of the People" and taken to routinely attacking political opponents with a level of vicious vitriolic rhetoric rarely seen in the United States. Only one side calls compromise blasphemous. Only one side has taken lying to ignorant and ludicrous levels. Yes, a Bernie support went crazy and went on a shooting spree at that baseball practice. How many of those Republicans had Bernie been routinely attacking from his "bully pulpit", at all those rallies he was doing at the time?

Well it's now "OK" to heckle republicans in restaurants, and even knock the take out container from McConnell's hands. Imo, the gop brought this on themselves. Not only for supporting Trump's rally cries of violence against protestors, but also for not calling Trump out on birtherism. They cannot acquiesce to calling a president illegitmate, and then find something wrong with the worm turns on them.

And it's not going to end so long as Trump is potus.

Actually none of that is okay.

But none of it is remotely close to saying you’ll pay an assauter’s legal bills if he attacks someone either.

no sense of humor are the leftists. too fking funny.

You’re living proof the world can take a joke

 

[jc456]

Both sides do some similar things. However, so far, only one side calls the Free Press "the Enemy of the People" and taken to routinely attacking political opponents with a level of vicious vitriolic rhetoric rarely seen in the United States. Only one side calls compromise blasphemous. Only one side has taken lying to ignorant and ludicrous levels. Yes, a Bernie support went crazy and went on a shooting spree at that baseball practice. How many of those Republicans had Bernie been routinely attacking from his "bully pulpit", at all those rallies he was doing at the time?

Well it's now "OK" to heckle republicans in restaurants, and even knock the take out container from McConnell's hands. Imo, the gop brought this on themselves. Not only for supporting Trump's rally cries of violence against protestors, but also for not calling Trump out on birtherism. They cannot acquiesce to calling a president illegitmate, and then find something wrong with the worm turns on them.

And it's not going to end so long as Trump is potus.

Actually none of that is okay.

But none of it is remotely close to saying you’ll pay an assauter’s legal bills if he attacks someone either.

no sense of humor are the leftists. too fking funny.

You’re living proof the world can take a joke

it's called context. you should educate yourself on that word. All of your side should.

BTW, I laughed my ass off when he said it.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Rhetoric has always been there. Crazy people have always been there. Two are not necessarily equated. The Left has advocated for violence just as much as the GOP if not moreso.

Factually incorrect. I seem to have missed any Dem Presidential Nominee volunteering to pay the legal bills for those committing assault at their rallies.

Your mileage may vary

That was a joke. Obviously Leftists don't have a sense of humor. Did you miss HRC calling half the country a basket of deplorables. LOL. Or Maxine Waters or Eric Holder advocating direct violence and not apoligizing for it?

Half of Donny's supporters not half the country. And she was specific, the racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic are the one she called deplorable.

Subjective. Who is "racist" who is "sexist". What is Islamaphobia? Some dumbass Leftist definition. Phobia means FEAR. Like what you have with Trump. I am certainly not scared of radical Islam but I dislike it. Would you define me as "Islamaphobic"? Do tell?.

Of course all those terms are subjective, look at the crowd she was speaking to. So is the term deplorable. It seems to be a trigger of some kind, somehow, for some reason.

I can only give you my subjective opinion of what an Isalmaphobic. But what the point in that?

The point is labeling people as deplorable because they disagree with you politically is not optimal when running for office.