Why can't conservatives/GOP learn from history?

[Soggy in NOLA]

Jesus... this one's on meth or something.

 

[Dad2three]

I want to address the incompetent liberal who claims we conservatives can't learn anything, and then I expect you conservatives to SHOVE it down HER/HIS throat!

What have we conservatives learned? Good question, let me tell all of you...........

1. Our budgets are out of control as a country, and so is the national debt.

2. The largest part of our budgets are entitlements, and who/whom created them all?

3. With our budgets out of control, the present President decided not to fix them, and instead ADDED another entitlement called Obamacare.

4. The none partisan CBO has stated repeatedly that we are going under unless we get spending under control.

5. The people who are going to get hammered are our children, and I love my children; and yes, even the children of far left wing liberals. I see no reason to force them into poverty because their parents are absolutely incompetent. I do not believe in "guilt through association.

6. GW Bush was an establishment republican who was WORSE than any liberal, because he lied to the people who voted for him; therefore, another Bush is out of the question. Same can be said for Tricky Mitch Mconnell, and if I lived in Kentucky, I would be leading people to the state capitol to burn that lying SOB in effigy.

7. The left believes that they KNOW better than you do, so they want to guide your life through NOT allowing you freedom that everyone once had.

8. The left believes all of the phoney numbers coming out of Washington; or tries to get you to believe them too. If their numbers are correct, then why aren't these people working? Are you telling everyone on here we are correct that 1/2 the people collecting are lazy?

9. If the rich are so evil, why doesn't the left PROMISE everyone on here, they will only work for a poor person? (and working for poor people in a government position does not qualify)

10. The left comes up with grand ideas, but never comes up with a way to pay for it. Every program they have instituted is in the red.

11. The left has absolutely no problem with throwing their constituents under the bus when they find a better constituent base. How do we know this? Because they are screwing African Americans for illegal aliens who supposedly can NOT vote. And to double down, they convince African Americans that our whole idea for voter ID is to stop them from voting, instead of stopping the illegals who are taking their jobs. They talk about Jim Crow, and African Americans forget it was the DEMOCRATS who wanted JIM CROW to stop them from voting.

12. The government makes NOTHING. The only way it funds itself is by taking our money, or printing money that makes our money worth less than it was before it printed the extra. And so, the left wonders why people who have actually SAVED money have some invested overseas; and why people laugh at the left as they point fingers at rich people/corporations, because the lefts has no clue that THEIR policies actually have created this problem; and if some do, they won't admit it because that doesn't fit their narrative.

13. Iran! The lefts narrative only works if you believe their premise. Their premise is......accept the Obama/Kerry deal, or it is WAR!!!!!!! That is like saying, you either accept Obamacare, or you will never be able to buy insurance. It is ridiculous!!!!!! If you believe their parameters, then you would have to accept the deal. But their parameters are for public consumption. Who makes the parameters? WE DO! Why? Because we had THEIR money, they are a 3rd rate country, and the best our fearless leader and his minion John (lie about his fellow soldiers in Vietnam) Kerry could do is this? Even leftists should be ashamed!

14. The reason that people WITHOUT a lot of political power are towards the top of the GOP field, and are closing on Hilly is because unlike the lefties, America has realized that WASHINGTON itself is our countrys problem. They do not care what we say, what we think, or how we are all doing down here in the heartland. All they care about is holding power. It is NOT just democrat specific either; republicans need to be removed also. What the political parties do is let people who actually care run low on money, cut each others throats in elections, then fund establishment people who will toe the party line.

How many of you today think TPP was a wonderful idea? Democrats? Republicans? And yet, the people who tried to stop it were eviscerated by BOTH parties in concert! Both parties are in cahoots. They will fight each other, but neither wants anyone else to even be considered, because then it goes from a split of 50-50, to a split of 33-33-33. They do not want a real blue dog democrat in there, nor a conservative, nor a libertarian. Why? Because if they start to fix it, the 2 parties lose power as Americans may be uninformed, but they are NOT stupid.

15. Finally..............GW Bush and Obama; regardless that they are from opposing parties, will be considered as 1 in the same when history writes its report on these times. Both screwed the pooch. Both took us down a road that this countries founding fathers never intended. Both were incompetent. And both spent this country into oblivion. Our children will curse their names when they pay their tax bill; that is if WE CAN SAVE THEM and our country from bankruptcy by changing course before it is to late.

MORE right wing nonsense. Shocking


Ronnie had US spending over 22%+ of GDP (AS he gutted revenues to 17% of GDP) .ABOUT where we are at today!

An Update to the Budget and Economic Outlook 2014 to 2024 Congressional Budget Office


Entitlements? Oh right S/S that keeps half of seniors out of poverty and Medicare both of which are SELF FUNDED and in FACT are owed over $3+ trillion (part of the $18 trilion debt) in excess payments collected (mainly thanks to Reagan increasing SS taxes 60% to hide the costs of tax cuts for the rich!)

Obamacares, 100% funded UNLIKE 2 Unfunded wars, UNFUNDED Medicare expansion that GOP Congress passed in the middle of the night to win in 2004, which costs as much this decade as Obamacares. Also the GOP made sure Gov't can't even bargain with drug comps!

CBO HAS NEVER SAID WE ARE GOING UNDER UNLESS SPENDING IS UNDER CONTROL, THEY SAID WE NEED MORE REVENUES, AS ANY THINKING PERSON UNDERSTANDS! Carter had US at nearly 20% of GDP revenues, Clinton 20% THEN Dubya gutted US to less than 15%? lol


EVERYTHING else you posit is right wing garbage. Shocking

Hint libertarians are fools

 

[Dad2three]

Liberals cry about Fox News because they absolutely DOMINATE liberal outlets. All the while they get their news from Comedy Central.

another low informed type who judges his "news" by ratings. Weird

You should go back and read your opening salvo.... it's pretty dumb.

 

[Dad2three]

Liberal ideas have no history other than failure and you think we can't learn from it?

New Deal set the stage for a new society. FDR made it easier for workers to unionize, and started taxing the rich at confiscatory levels. It didn't hurt that first the war and later the baby boom put everyone back to work. The result, as you can see above, was the creation of the American middle class. Between 1940 and 1970, the bottom 90 percent went from making, on average, $12,000 to $33,000. The top 1 percent, meanwhile, were stuck making "only" $300,000 this whole time. It's what economists call the "Great Compression," and it was a story about workers having the bargaining power to ask for higher wages and the rich not having much reason to ask for higher wages themselves. That's because top marginal tax rates were so high—at their peak, 94 percent—that it wasn't worth it for CEOs to pay themselves that much more. Besides, that was just something executives didn't do back then. George Romney, for example, turned down a $100,000 bonus in 1960—and those are unadjusted dollars—because he didn't think anyone needed to make that much more.

This chart explains everything you need to know about inequality - The Washington Post

So, unions were responsible for the Post War boom?

THe fact that the rest of the world had been bombed flat and thus could NOT compete with US, AND needed to rebuild had nothing to do with it?

Weird response to PROGRESSIVE policies that created the post WW2 America and largest middle class the world ever knew.

90% of the damage was rebuilt by 1955. AND helped those economies with Marshall's plan. Weird you want to hold onto Heritage talking points?

There is nothing "weird" about pointing out other factors that could have been more responsible for the Post War Boom, then unions.

It is disingenuous of you to pretend that there is.

Weird ONE part is taken out and you want to argue that single part? lol

Middle-Class Decline Mirrors The Fall Of Unions In One Chart

 

[Dad2three]

here's some history the left refuses and denies;

Harding (R) inherted a depression, he cut taxes and Fed spending in 1/2, 18 month later, depression over, Roaring Twentys begin.
fdr (D) inherited a depression, he increased taxes and Fed spending to level unseen, 10 years later and WW2 later, depression over, no economic boom.

now, who did obama copy and why is it taking so long for the economy to really get going?

leftist learned from history that increasing taxes and spending slows the economy and forces more people to rely on the government for basic needs.

so please go fuck yourself you useless sheep

Harding is acknowledged as one of the worst presidents in history
His and Cooledge policies led to the Great Depression. There is a reason we did not elect another republican for twenty years

Logical fallacy of Appeal to Authority

And

Logical fallacy of Appeal to Popularity.

Oh, and some unsupported opinion.

Yet you don't even TRY to give reasons why the US didn't elect a Prez from the GOP after Hoover for decades?

If he comes back and seriously supports his claims, then I might respond in kind.

As long as all he is posting is unsupported BS, I will just point out that his posts are just unsupported bs.

Perhaps pick a few of mine and try to refute??? LOL

 

[Correll]

Liberal ideas have no history other than failure and you think we can't learn from it?

New Deal set the stage for a new society. FDR made it easier for workers to unionize, and started taxing the rich at confiscatory levels. It didn't hurt that first the war and later the baby boom put everyone back to work. The result, as you can see above, was the creation of the American middle class. Between 1940 and 1970, the bottom 90 percent went from making, on average, $12,000 to $33,000. The top 1 percent, meanwhile, were stuck making "only" $300,000 this whole time. It's what economists call the "Great Compression," and it was a story about workers having the bargaining power to ask for higher wages and the rich not having much reason to ask for higher wages themselves. That's because top marginal tax rates were so high—at their peak, 94 percent—that it wasn't worth it for CEOs to pay themselves that much more. Besides, that was just something executives didn't do back then. George Romney, for example, turned down a $100,000 bonus in 1960—and those are unadjusted dollars—because he didn't think anyone needed to make that much more.

This chart explains everything you need to know about inequality - The Washington Post

So, unions were responsible for the Post War boom?

THe fact that the rest of the world had been bombed flat and thus could NOT compete with US, AND needed to rebuild had nothing to do with it?

Weird response to PROGRESSIVE policies that created the post WW2 America and largest middle class the world ever knew.

90% of the damage was rebuilt by 1955. AND helped those economies with Marshall's plan. Weird you want to hold onto Heritage talking points?

There is nothing "weird" about pointing out other factors that could have been more responsible for the Post War Boom, then unions.

It is disingenuous of you to pretend that there is.

Weird ONE part is taken out and you want to argue that single part? lol

Middle-Class Decline Mirrors The Fall Of Unions In One Chart

WWII, and the destruction of vast amounts of the industrialized world, EXCEPT for the US, is a pretty big part to ignore.

IMO, the immediate post war situation is a terrible place to drawn conclusions from because of the oddity of the economic situation.

 

[Correll]

here's some history the left refuses and denies;

Harding (R) inherted a depression, he cut taxes and Fed spending in 1/2, 18 month later, depression over, Roaring Twentys begin.
fdr (D) inherited a depression, he increased taxes and Fed spending to level unseen, 10 years later and WW2 later, depression over, no economic boom.

now, who did obama copy and why is it taking so long for the economy to really get going?

leftist learned from history that increasing taxes and spending slows the economy and forces more people to rely on the government for basic needs.

so please go fuck yourself you useless sheep

Harding is acknowledged as one of the worst presidents in history
His and Cooledge policies led to the Great Depression. There is a reason we did not elect another republican for twenty years

Logical fallacy of Appeal to Authority

And

Logical fallacy of Appeal to Popularity.

Oh, and some unsupported opinion.

Yet you don't even TRY to give reasons why the US didn't elect a Prez from the GOP after Hoover for decades?

If he comes back and seriously supports his claims, then I might respond in kind.

As long as all he is posting is unsupported BS, I will just point out that his posts are just unsupported bs.

Perhaps pick a few of mine and try to refute??? LOL

YOu're kind of all over the place.

I made my point about one of your posts. You have not really addressed that as of yet.

 

[Dad2three]

Harding is acknowledged as one of the worst presidents in history
His and Cooledge policies led to the Great Depression. There is a reason we did not elect another republican for twenty years

Logical fallacy of Appeal to Authority

And

Logical fallacy of Appeal to Popularity.

Oh, and some unsupported opinion.

Yet you don't even TRY to give reasons why the US didn't elect a Prez from the GOP after Hoover for decades?

If he comes back and seriously supports his claims, then I might respond in kind.

As long as all he is posting is unsupported BS, I will just point out that his posts are just unsupported bs.

Perhaps pick a few of mine and try to refute??? LOL

YOu're kind of all over the place.

I made my point about one of your posts. You have not really addressed that as of yet.

Sure. Give it to me again?

 

[Correll]

Logical fallacy of Appeal to Authority

And

Logical fallacy of Appeal to Popularity.

Oh, and some unsupported opinion.

Yet you don't even TRY to give reasons why the US didn't elect a Prez from the GOP after Hoover for decades?

If he comes back and seriously supports his claims, then I might respond in kind.

As long as all he is posting is unsupported BS, I will just point out that his posts are just unsupported bs.

Perhaps pick a few of mine and try to refute??? LOL

YOu're kind of all over the place.

I made my point about one of your posts. You have not really addressed that as of yet.

Sure. Give it to me again?

Sure.

So, unions were responsible for the Post War boom?

THe fact that the rest of the world had been bombed flat and thus could NOT compete with US, AND needed to rebuild had nothing to do with it?

 

[Dad2three]

New Deal set the stage for a new society. FDR made it easier for workers to unionize, and started taxing the rich at confiscatory levels. It didn't hurt that first the war and later the baby boom put everyone back to work. The result, as you can see above, was the creation of the American middle class. Between 1940 and 1970, the bottom 90 percent went from making, on average, $12,000 to $33,000. The top 1 percent, meanwhile, were stuck making "only" $300,000 this whole time. It's what economists call the "Great Compression," and it was a story about workers having the bargaining power to ask for higher wages and the rich not having much reason to ask for higher wages themselves. That's because top marginal tax rates were so high—at their peak, 94 percent—that it wasn't worth it for CEOs to pay themselves that much more. Besides, that was just something executives didn't do back then. George Romney, for example, turned down a $100,000 bonus in 1960—and those are unadjusted dollars—because he didn't think anyone needed to make that much more.

This chart explains everything you need to know about inequality - The Washington Post

So, unions were responsible for the Post War boom?

THe fact that the rest of the world had been bombed flat and thus could NOT compete with US, AND needed to rebuild had nothing to do with it?

Weird response to PROGRESSIVE policies that created the post WW2 America and largest middle class the world ever knew.

90% of the damage was rebuilt by 1955. AND helped those economies with Marshall's plan. Weird you want to hold onto Heritage talking points?

There is nothing "weird" about pointing out other factors that could have been more responsible for the Post War Boom, then unions.

It is disingenuous of you to pretend that there is.

Weird ONE part is taken out and you want to argue that single part? lol

Middle-Class Decline Mirrors The Fall Of Unions In One Chart

WWII, and the destruction of vast amounts of the industrialized world, EXCEPT for the US, is a pretty big part to ignore.

IMO, the immediate post war situation is a terrible place to drawn conclusions from because of the oddity of the economic situation.

Oddity? 90% of the world was rebuilt by 1955, why did the US middle class contuse to grow until 1971? Why did IUS incomes grow until 1979? What relation to taxes on the very wealthiest in the US (effective rates above 50% from 1932-1980) did the boom have? Why is it that through history, supply side has failed over and over yet cons don't get it?

Middle Class Series: The Failure of Supply-Side Economics

Three Decades of Empirical Economic Data Shows That Supply-Side Economics Doesn’t Work


When President Bill Clinton, raised taxes that same year did the economy suffer a slowdown, as was predicted by those who believe in supply-side economics? The data says no.

The Failure of Supply-Side Economics Center for American Progress

 

[Dad2three]

Yet you don't even TRY to give reasons why the US didn't elect a Prez from the GOP after Hoover for decades?

If he comes back and seriously supports his claims, then I might respond in kind.

As long as all he is posting is unsupported BS, I will just point out that his posts are just unsupported bs.

Perhaps pick a few of mine and try to refute??? LOL

YOu're kind of all over the place.

I made my point about one of your posts. You have not really addressed that as of yet.

Sure. Give it to me again?

Sure.

So, unions were responsible for the Post War boom?

THe fact that the rest of the world had been bombed flat and thus could NOT compete with US, AND needed to rebuild had nothing to do with it?

Got it. YOU are dishonest. I'm shocked

 

[Correll]

So, unions were responsible for the Post War boom?

THe fact that the rest of the world had been bombed flat and thus could NOT compete with US, AND needed to rebuild had nothing to do with it?

Weird response to PROGRESSIVE policies that created the post WW2 America and largest middle class the world ever knew.

90% of the damage was rebuilt by 1955. AND helped those economies with Marshall's plan. Weird you want to hold onto Heritage talking points?

There is nothing "weird" about pointing out other factors that could have been more responsible for the Post War Boom, then unions.

It is disingenuous of you to pretend that there is.

Weird ONE part is taken out and you want to argue that single part? lol

Middle-Class Decline Mirrors The Fall Of Unions In One Chart

WWII, and the destruction of vast amounts of the industrialized world, EXCEPT for the US, is a pretty big part to ignore.

IMO, the immediate post war situation is a terrible place to drawn conclusions from because of the oddity of the economic situation.

Oddity? 90% of the world was rebuilt by 1955, why did the US middle class contuse to grow until 1971? ...

Link to support that 90% of the world was rebuilt by 55, with as much detail as possible.

 

[Correll]

If he comes back and seriously supports his claims, then I might respond in kind.

As long as all he is posting is unsupported BS, I will just point out that his posts are just unsupported bs.

Perhaps pick a few of mine and try to refute??? LOL

YOu're kind of all over the place.

I made my point about one of your posts. You have not really addressed that as of yet.

Sure. Give it to me again?

Sure.

So, unions were responsible for the Post War boom?

THe fact that the rest of the world had been bombed flat and thus could NOT compete with US, AND needed to rebuild had nothing to do with it?

Got it. YOU are dishonest. I'm shocked

Personal attacks do not support your argument, and only make you look like you are trying to avoid honest and serious debate.

Also, a rude asshole.

 

[Dad2three]

Weird response to PROGRESSIVE policies that created the post WW2 America and largest middle class the world ever knew.

90% of the damage was rebuilt by 1955. AND helped those economies with Marshall's plan. Weird you want to hold onto Heritage talking points?

There is nothing "weird" about pointing out other factors that could have been more responsible for the Post War Boom, then unions.

It is disingenuous of you to pretend that there is.

Weird ONE part is taken out and you want to argue that single part? lol

Middle-Class Decline Mirrors The Fall Of Unions In One Chart

WWII, and the destruction of vast amounts of the industrialized world, EXCEPT for the US, is a pretty big part to ignore.

IMO, the immediate post war situation is a terrible place to drawn conclusions from because of the oddity of the economic situation.

Oddity? 90% of the world was rebuilt by 1955, why did the US middle class contuse to grow until 1971? ...

Link to support that 90% of the world was rebuilt by 55, with as much detail as possible.

Talking infrastructure end business Bubs.

Marshall Plan - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Reconstruction of Germany - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Aftermath of World War II - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[Dad2three]

Perhaps pick a few of mine and try to refute??? LOL

YOu're kind of all over the place.

I made my point about one of your posts. You have not really addressed that as of yet.

Sure. Give it to me again?

Sure.

So, unions were responsible for the Post War boom?

THe fact that the rest of the world had been bombed flat and thus could NOT compete with US, AND needed to rebuild had nothing to do with it?

Got it. YOU are dishonest. I'm shocked

Personal attacks do not support your argument, and only make you look like you are trying to avoid honest and serious debate.

Also, a rude asshole.

Got it. YOU aren't honest and choose to pull out ONE part of PROGRESSIVE policies that created the worlds largest middle class. Weird, dishonest not worthy of my time!

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Why can't conservatives/GOP learn from history?"

Likely because they spend so much time trying to revise it.

 

[jillian]

over 300 bills passed by the "do-nothing" Republican Party never made it to the floor of the Senate for debate under former Senate Leader Reid

try another talking point stupid

you mean winger bills like personhood bills?

or more tax cuts for corporations?

no. those didn't get there, winger. that;s not what people voted for.

and the first bill the wingers tried to pass when they finally got the house was a personhood law.

nutters.......

 

[bedowin62]

over 300 bills passed by the "do-nothing" Republican Party never made it to the floor of the Senate for debate under former Senate Leader Reid

try another talking point stupid

you mean winger bills like personhood bills?

or more tax cuts for corporations?

no. those didn't get there, winger. that;s not what people voted for.

and the first bill the wingers tried to pass when they finally got the house was a personhood law.

nutters.......

YAWN; doesn't matter what they were leftard, we both know they weren't brought to the floor by Reid not because they had no chance of passing but because they WOULD HAVE PASSED.
that's why you dummies lost the Senate

libs are losers who lie to themselves

 

[Dad2three]

over 300 bills passed by the "do-nothing" Republican Party never made it to the floor of the Senate for debate under former Senate Leader Reid

try another talking point stupid

you mean winger bills like personhood bills?

or more tax cuts for corporations?

no. those didn't get there, winger. that;s not what people voted for.

and the first bill the wingers tried to pass when they finally got the house was a personhood law.

nutters.......

YAWN; doesn't matter what they were leftard, we both know they weren't brought to the floor by Reid not because they had no chance of passing but because they WOULD HAVE PASSED.
that's why you dummies lost the Senate

libs are losers who lie to themselves

You are projection personified Bubba

 

[imawhosure]

I want to address the incompetent liberal who claims we conservatives can't learn anything, and then I expect you conservatives to SHOVE it down HER/HIS throat!

What have we conservatives learned? Good question, let me tell all of you...........

1. Our budgets are out of control as a country, and so is the national debt.

2. The largest part of our budgets are entitlements, and who/whom created them all?

3. With our budgets out of control, the present President decided not to fix them, and instead ADDED another entitlement called Obamacare.

4. The none partisan CBO has stated repeatedly that we are going under unless we get spending under control.

5. The people who are going to get hammered are our children, and I love my children; and yes, even the children of far left wing liberals. I see no reason to force them into poverty because their parents are absolutely incompetent. I do not believe in "guilt through association.

6. GW Bush was an establishment republican who was WORSE than any liberal, because he lied to the people who voted for him; therefore, another Bush is out of the question. Same can be said for Tricky Mitch Mconnell, and if I lived in Kentucky, I would be leading people to the state capitol to burn that lying SOB in effigy.

7. The left believes that they KNOW better than you do, so they want to guide your life through NOT allowing you freedom that everyone once had.

8. The left believes all of the phoney numbers coming out of Washington; or tries to get you to believe them too. If their numbers are correct, then why aren't these people working? Are you telling everyone on here we are correct that 1/2 the people collecting are lazy?

9. If the rich are so evil, why doesn't the left PROMISE everyone on here, they will only work for a poor person? (and working for poor people in a government position does not qualify)

10. The left comes up with grand ideas, but never comes up with a way to pay for it. Every program they have instituted is in the red.

11. The left has absolutely no problem with throwing their constituents under the bus when they find a better constituent base. How do we know this? Because they are screwing African Americans for illegal aliens who supposedly can NOT vote. And to double down, they convince African Americans that our whole idea for voter ID is to stop them from voting, instead of stopping the illegals who are taking their jobs. They talk about Jim Crow, and African Americans forget it was the DEMOCRATS who wanted JIM CROW to stop them from voting.

12. The government makes NOTHING. The only way it funds itself is by taking our money, or printing money that makes our money worth less than it was before it printed the extra. And so, the left wonders why people who have actually SAVED money have some invested overseas; and why people laugh at the left as they point fingers at rich people/corporations, because the lefts has no clue that THEIR policies actually have created this problem; and if some do, they won't admit it because that doesn't fit their narrative.

13. Iran! The lefts narrative only works if you believe their premise. Their premise is......accept the Obama/Kerry deal, or it is WAR!!!!!!! That is like saying, you either accept Obamacare, or you will never be able to buy insurance. It is ridiculous!!!!!! If you believe their parameters, then you would have to accept the deal. But their parameters are for public consumption. Who makes the parameters? WE DO! Why? Because we had THEIR money, they are a 3rd rate country, and the best our fearless leader and his minion John (lie about his fellow soldiers in Vietnam) Kerry could do is this? Even leftists should be ashamed!

14. The reason that people WITHOUT a lot of political power are towards the top of the GOP field, and are closing on Hilly is because unlike the lefties, America has realized that WASHINGTON itself is our countrys problem. They do not care what we say, what we think, or how we are all doing down here in the heartland. All they care about is holding power. It is NOT just democrat specific either; republicans need to be removed also. What the political parties do is let people who actually care run low on money, cut each others throats in elections, then fund establishment people who will toe the party line.

How many of you today think TPP was a wonderful idea? Democrats? Republicans? And yet, the people who tried to stop it were eviscerated by BOTH parties in concert! Both parties are in cahoots. They will fight each other, but neither wants anyone else to even be considered, because then it goes from a split of 50-50, to a split of 33-33-33. They do not want a real blue dog democrat in there, nor a conservative, nor a libertarian. Why? Because if they start to fix it, the 2 parties lose power as Americans may be uninformed, but they are NOT stupid.

15. Finally..............GW Bush and Obama; regardless that they are from opposing parties, will be considered as 1 in the same when history writes its report on these times. Both screwed the pooch. Both took us down a road that this countries founding fathers never intended. Both were incompetent. And both spent this country into oblivion. Our children will curse their names when they pay their tax bill; that is if WE CAN SAVE THEM and our country from bankruptcy by changing course before it is to late.

MORE right wing nonsense. Shocking


Ronnie had US spending over 22%+ of GDP (AS he gutted revenues to 17% of GDP) .ABOUT where we are at today!

An Update to the Budget and Economic Outlook 2014 to 2024 Congressional Budget Office


Entitlements? Oh right S/S that keeps half of seniors out of poverty and Medicare both of which are SELF FUNDED and in FACT are owed over $3+ trillion (part of the $18 trilion debt) in excess payments collected (mainly thanks to Reagan increasing SS taxes 60% to hide the costs of tax cuts for the rich!)

Obamacares, 100% funded UNLIKE 2 Unfunded wars, UNFUNDED Medicare expansion that GOP Congress passed in the middle of the night to win in 2004, which costs as much this decade as Obamacares. Also the GOP made sure Gov't can't even bargain with drug comps!

CBO HAS NEVER SAID WE ARE GOING UNDER UNLESS SPENDING IS UNDER CONTROL, THEY SAID WE NEED MORE REVENUES, AS ANY THINKING PERSON UNDERSTANDS! Carter had US at nearly 20% of GDP revenues, Clinton 20% THEN Dubya gutted US to less than 15%? lol


EVERYTHING else you posit is right wing garbage. Shocking

Hint libertarians are fools

I feel absolutely honored that people who have over 1000 posts a month; in fact, sometimes over 2000 posts a month, would take the time to respond to me, lowly less than 300 posts total, when they are obviously shills for the democratic/lefty/socialist/Marxist machine. So which one of you are Debbie Wasserman (I know nothing, nothing) Shultz?

You still haven't explained how you are going to pay for anything, and you still haven't explained why every one of your programs are in the red; but carry on. I am certainly out of my league debating with you pointy headed, brilliant lefties, so I will just go hide. NOT!

You want to destroy our kids; SCREW YOU! You couldn't balance a watermelon on a football field. The bunch of you are PATHEIC, screwing those that come after us because you think you are sooooooooo smart.

While I believe at this time, you clowns have the upper hand, you had better pray to the God you don't believe in that one of the democrats or Bush gets elected, because if they don't, not only are you out of power for a very long time, you will probably also be out of a job too! You will have to come out of your parents basement, put clothes over your underwear, and actually WORK for a living, lol. I have grass to cut, and I will watch you cut it while I sip iced tea; or are you betting on welfare, lolol.