Why did Jimmy Carter accomplish so little during his 4 years as president?

[S.J.]

Sure, that's why they let them go while Carter was still president, right?

They did. That's why Reagan had nothing to do with it.

Here, Cronkite announces Carter struck a deal, during the very end of his term, with the Iranians to release the hostages...



And here (near the end), Cronkite announces the plane with the hostages had taken off. This was before Reagan was sworn in.

Well, I guess you're gonna have to duke it out with pogo and sillybooboo because they're quite certain that Reagan and Bush made a deal with the Iranians to keep the hostages until inauguration day to make sure Carter lost (like he wouldn't have anyway). You libs need to get on the same page. Incidentally, exactly what was the deal that Carter made with the Iranians?

I don't need to sort anything out. I showed you Carter announced the deal while he was still president and it was executed before Reagan was sworn in.

Hey dumbshit, there was no deal until AFTER Carter lost the election in 1980. Carter didn't get them released, their fear of a President Reagan is what got them released.

Wow, you're even more fucked in the head than I thought.

You do know Carter was president until January 20, 1981, right, regardless of when the election took place? The deal was brokered by Carter's deputy Secretary of State and executed while Carter was still president. Reagan had nothing to do with it.

You have to be one of the dumbest assholes on this board. Listen carefully now. Carter was still president, yes, for one more day. The Iranians had to make a deal BEFORE Reagan was sworn in or risk having their country reduced to rubble. It doesn't matter WHO brokered the deal, the deal would not have been made if Carter had won the election. I never said Reagan brokered the fucking deal, dumbass, I said he was the REASON the deal was brokered. Damn, you are an idiot.

 

[S.J.]

Still waiting for pogo to respond to his statement about the "October Surprise" that he claimed happened but has no evidence of. Or has he changed his mind and abandoned his claim?

 

[Faun]

They did. That's why Reagan had nothing to do with it.

Here, Cronkite announces Carter struck a deal, during the very end of his term, with the Iranians to release the hostages...



And here (near the end), Cronkite announces the plane with the hostages had taken off. This was before Reagan was sworn in.

Well, I guess you're gonna have to duke it out with pogo and sillybooboo because they're quite certain that Reagan and Bush made a deal with the Iranians to keep the hostages until inauguration day to make sure Carter lost (like he wouldn't have anyway). You libs need to get on the same page. Incidentally, exactly what was the deal that Carter made with the Iranians?

I don't need to sort anything out. I showed you Carter announced the deal while he was still president and it was executed before Reagan was sworn in.

Hey dumbshit, there was no deal until AFTER Carter lost the election in 1980. Carter didn't get them released, their fear of a President Reagan is what got them released.

Wow, you're even more fucked in the head than I thought.

You do know Carter was president until January 20, 1981, right, regardless of when the election took place? The deal was brokered by Carter's deputy Secretary of State and executed while Carter was still president. Reagan had nothing to do with it.

You have to be one of the dumbest assholes on this board. Listen carefully now. Carter was still president, yes, for one more day. The Iranians had to make a deal BEFORE Reagan was sworn in or risk having their country reduced to rubble. It doesn't matter WHO brokered the deal, the deal would not have been made if Carter had won the election. I never said Reagan brokered the fucking deal, dumbass, I said he was the REASON the deal was brokered. Damn, you are an idiot.

Reagan had nothing to do with it. They would have been released even had Carter been relected.

 

[S.J.]

Well, I guess you're gonna have to duke it out with pogo and sillybooboo because they're quite certain that Reagan and Bush made a deal with the Iranians to keep the hostages until inauguration day to make sure Carter lost (like he wouldn't have anyway). You libs need to get on the same page. Incidentally, exactly what was the deal that Carter made with the Iranians?

I don't need to sort anything out. I showed you Carter announced the deal while he was still president and it was executed before Reagan was sworn in.

Hey dumbshit, there was no deal until AFTER Carter lost the election in 1980. Carter didn't get them released, their fear of a President Reagan is what got them released.

Wow, you're even more fucked in the head than I thought.

You do know Carter was president until January 20, 1981, right, regardless of when the election took place? The deal was brokered by Carter's deputy Secretary of State and executed while Carter was still president. Reagan had nothing to do with it.

You have to be one of the dumbest assholes on this board. Listen carefully now. Carter was still president, yes, for one more day. The Iranians had to make a deal BEFORE Reagan was sworn in or risk having their country reduced to rubble. It doesn't matter WHO brokered the deal, the deal would not have been made if Carter had won the election. I never said Reagan brokered the fucking deal, dumbass, I said he was the REASON the deal was brokered. Damn, you are an idiot.

Reagan had nothing to do with it. They would have been released even had Carter been relected.

Yeah, sure. Then you agree there was no "October Surprise"?

 

[Faun]

I don't need to sort anything out. I showed you Carter announced the deal while he was still president and it was executed before Reagan was sworn in.

Hey dumbshit, there was no deal until AFTER Carter lost the election in 1980. Carter didn't get them released, their fear of a President Reagan is what got them released.

Wow, you're even more fucked in the head than I thought.

You do know Carter was president until January 20, 1981, right, regardless of when the election took place? The deal was brokered by Carter's deputy Secretary of State and executed while Carter was still president. Reagan had nothing to do with it.

You have to be one of the dumbest assholes on this board. Listen carefully now. Carter was still president, yes, for one more day. The Iranians had to make a deal BEFORE Reagan was sworn in or risk having their country reduced to rubble. It doesn't matter WHO brokered the deal, the deal would not have been made if Carter had won the election. I never said Reagan brokered the fucking deal, dumbass, I said he was the REASON the deal was brokered. Damn, you are an idiot.

Reagan had nothing to do with it. They would have been released even had Carter been relected.

Yeah, sure. Then you agree there was no "October Surprise"?

Reagan had nothing to do with it. Deal with it.

 

[S.J.]

Hey dumbshit, there was no deal until AFTER Carter lost the election in 1980. Carter didn't get them released, their fear of a President Reagan is what got them released.

Wow, you're even more fucked in the head than I thought.

You do know Carter was president until January 20, 1981, right, regardless of when the election took place? The deal was brokered by Carter's deputy Secretary of State and executed while Carter was still president. Reagan had nothing to do with it.

You have to be one of the dumbest assholes on this board. Listen carefully now. Carter was still president, yes, for one more day. The Iranians had to make a deal BEFORE Reagan was sworn in or risk having their country reduced to rubble. It doesn't matter WHO brokered the deal, the deal would not have been made if Carter had won the election. I never said Reagan brokered the fucking deal, dumbass, I said he was the REASON the deal was brokered. Damn, you are an idiot.

Reagan had nothing to do with it. They would have been released even had Carter been relected.

Yeah, sure. Then you agree there was no "October Surprise"?

Reagan had nothing to do with it. Deal with it.

Was that a yes or a no?

 

[auditor0007]

I always assumed he had to deal with a congress of the other party but i just checked and that is false. Democrats had huge majorities in both houses!

During his first two years dems held the senate 61-38 ( 1 indy} and the House 292-143

His next two years it was 58-41 ( 1 indy) and 277-158.

He prolly could have made a lot of changes if he wanted to, but chose not to. I like that. In particular, he didn't start any wars though the bankers and news media tried to push him into a war with the staged Iran hostage crisis of 1979. He was NOT a weak president. He stood up to the war profiteers.

You might be shocked to learn this, but under Carter, almost 10 million new jobs were created in four short years. Inflation was the big problem during the Carter years

I always assumed he had to deal with a congress of the other party but i just checked and that is false. Democrats had huge majorities in both houses!

During his first two years dems held the senate 61-38 ( 1 indy} and the House 292-143

His next two years it was 58-41 ( 1 indy) and 277-158.

He prolly could have made a lot of changes if he wanted to, but chose not to. I like that. In particular, he didn't start any wars though the bankers and news media tried to push him into a war with the staged Iran hostage crisis of 1979. He was NOT a weak president. He stood up to the war profiteers.

Under Carter, 10 million new jobs were created in four short years. Inflation was his big problem. Volker forced interest rates extremely high trying to get inflation under control. Eventually it worked, but the real question is whether it really was necessary to stall growth by forcing rates so high, or would they have come down on their own anyway?

 

[Faun]

Wow, you're even more fucked in the head than I thought.

You do know Carter was president until January 20, 1981, right, regardless of when the election took place? The deal was brokered by Carter's deputy Secretary of State and executed while Carter was still president. Reagan had nothing to do with it.

You have to be one of the dumbest assholes on this board. Listen carefully now. Carter was still president, yes, for one more day. The Iranians had to make a deal BEFORE Reagan was sworn in or risk having their country reduced to rubble. It doesn't matter WHO brokered the deal, the deal would not have been made if Carter had won the election. I never said Reagan brokered the fucking deal, dumbass, I said he was the REASON the deal was brokered. Damn, you are an idiot.

Reagan had nothing to do with it. They would have been released even had Carter been relected.

Yeah, sure. Then you agree there was no "October Surprise"?

Reagan had nothing to do with it. Deal with it.

Was that a yes or a no?

I have no knowledge of that so I'm not speculating about it. What I did say was Reagan had nothing to do with the hostages being released.

 

[S.J.]

You have to be one of the dumbest assholes on this board. Listen carefully now. Carter was still president, yes, for one more day. The Iranians had to make a deal BEFORE Reagan was sworn in or risk having their country reduced to rubble. It doesn't matter WHO brokered the deal, the deal would not have been made if Carter had won the election. I never said Reagan brokered the fucking deal, dumbass, I said he was the REASON the deal was brokered. Damn, you are an idiot.

Reagan had nothing to do with it. They would have been released even had Carter been relected.

Yeah, sure. Then you agree there was no "October Surprise"?

Reagan had nothing to do with it. Deal with it.

Was that a yes or a no?

I have no knowledge of that so I'm not speculating about it. What I did say was Reagan had nothing to do with the hostages being released.

I'm going to assume you misunderstood what I was saying about Reagan regarding the hostages. I have never claimed he had anything to do with negotiating their release. I AM saying, however, that Iran feared a Reagan presidency and in part because during that campaign Carter and the Democratic Party were constantly calling Reagan a war monger to scare the voters into not voting for him. The American people weren't falling for it though but many of our adversaries were, including the Soviets and Iran. Reagan had referred to the hostages as "prisoners of war", which was designed to send a message to the Iranians, and they got the message. You can believe whatever you want about why they were released the conventional wisdom at the time was that they were afraid Reagan was going to use military force against them so they released the hostages before he was sworn in. The hostages were leaving Iranian air space AS Reagan was being sworn in.

 

[Faun]

Reagan had nothing to do with it. They would have been released even had Carter been relected.

Yeah, sure. Then you agree there was no "October Surprise"?

Reagan had nothing to do with it. Deal with it.

Was that a yes or a no?

I have no knowledge of that so I'm not speculating about it. What I did say was Reagan had nothing to do with the hostages being released.

I'm going to assume you misunderstood what I was saying about Reagan regarding the hostages. I have never claimed he had anything to do with negotiating their release. I AM saying, however, that Iran feared a Reagan presidency and in part because during that campaign Carter and the Democratic Party were constantly calling Reagan a war monger to scare the voters into not voting for him. The American people weren't falling for it though but many of our adversaries were, including the Soviets and Iran. Reagan had referred to the hostages as "prisoners of war", which was designed to send a message to the Iranians, and they got the message. You can believe whatever you want about why they were released the conventional wisdom at the time was that they were afraid Reagan was going to use military force against them so they released the hostages before he was sworn in. The hostages were leaving Iranian air space AS Reagan was being sworn in.

Wrong again. I understood exactly what you're saying. I reject it as idiotic as Iran did not fear Reagan. Evidence of that can be garnered from their backing of a Hezbollah attack of a military barracks in Beirut, killing some 241 of our servicemen. You know, what you call "fear." As far as your idiocy about them feeling threatened that Reagan would attack them, need I remind you ... ? Reagan didn't even attack them after they killed 241 members of our military. Instead, he tried to show the world what a tough guy he was by attacking Grenada instead.

Whether you understand this or not is irrelevant ... Reagan had nothing to do with the release of the hostages.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Stupid, righty. Reagan had nothing to do with their release.

Sure, that's why they let them go while Carter was still president, right?

They did. That's why Reagan had nothing to do with it.

Here, Cronkite announces Carter struck a deal, during the very end of his term, with the Iranians to release the hostages...



And here (near the end), Cronkite announces the plane with the hostages had taken off. This was before Reagan was sworn in.

Well, I guess you're gonna have to duke it out with pogo and sillybooboo because they're quite certain that Reagan and Bush made a deal with the Iranians to keep the hostages until inauguration day to make sure Carter lost (like he wouldn't have anyway). You libs need to get on the same page. Incidentally, exactly what was the deal that Carter made with the Iranians?

I don't need to sort anything out. I showed you Carter announced the deal while he was still president and it was executed before Reagan was sworn in.

Hey dumbshit, there was no deal until AFTER Carter lost the election in 1980. Carter didn't get them released, their fear of a President Reagan is what got them released.

The voices in your head must be shouting out the windows of an insane asylum.

 

[NYcarbineer]

I always assumed he had to deal with a congress of the other party but i just checked and that is false. Democrats had huge majorities in both houses!

During his first two years dems held the senate 61-38 ( 1 indy} and the House 292-143

His next two years it was 58-41 ( 1 indy) and 277-158.

He prolly could have made a lot of changes if he wanted to, but chose not to. I like that. In particular, he didn't start any wars though the bankers and news media tried to push him into a war with the staged Iran hostage crisis of 1979. He was NOT a weak president. He stood up to the war profiteers.

Why? He was a democrat after all. What else is there to ponder?

-Geaux

You've at least summarized nicely what a bunch of simpletons RW'ers are.

 

[Meathead]

Iranians knew better than to mess with Reagan. Carter, like the current POTUS, is a wuss.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Reagan's only worthwhile accomplishment was saving Social Security, you know the massive socialist program that conservatives think is the unconstitutional work of the Devil...

...yes, THAT Social Security.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Iranians knew better than to mess with Reagan. Carter, like the current POTUS, is a wuss.

They messed with Reagan in Beirut in 1983.

 

[KissMy]

You have to be one of the dumbest assholes on this board. Listen carefully now. Carter was still president, yes, for one more day. The Iranians had to make a deal BEFORE Reagan was sworn in or risk having their country reduced to rubble. It doesn't matter WHO brokered the deal, the deal would not have been made if Carter had won the election. I never said Reagan brokered the fucking deal, dumbass, I said he was the REASON the deal was brokered. Damn, you are an idiot.

You only believe propaganda & political hype. You are clueless to facts. FACT: Carter had Iraq attack Iran KILLING a MILLION Iranians. Iran was begging Carter to end the embargo & release the $Billions of their money we had seized, so they could use it to buy weapons & aircraft parts to end the slaughter. Carter forced Iran into releasing all the US hostages, not Reagan campaign B.S.

Reagan was such a wimp he traded arms to Iran for hostages. Reagan did not have Iranians slaughtered like Carter did. Reagan lied & negotiated with terrorist.

 

[tyroneweaver]

If Carter were still posing as a president there would still be American hostages in Iran.

they're still american hostages in iran. and iran is obama's and valerie jerretts buddies.

 

[S.J.]

Sure, that's why they let them go while Carter was still president, right?

They did. That's why Reagan had nothing to do with it.

Here, Cronkite announces Carter struck a deal, during the very end of his term, with the Iranians to release the hostages...



And here (near the end), Cronkite announces the plane with the hostages had taken off. This was before Reagan was sworn in.

Well, I guess you're gonna have to duke it out with pogo and sillybooboo because they're quite certain that Reagan and Bush made a deal with the Iranians to keep the hostages until inauguration day to make sure Carter lost (like he wouldn't have anyway). You libs need to get on the same page. Incidentally, exactly what was the deal that Carter made with the Iranians?

I don't need to sort anything out. I showed you Carter announced the deal while he was still president and it was executed before Reagan was sworn in.

Hey dumbshit, there was no deal until AFTER Carter lost the election in 1980. Carter didn't get them released, their fear of a President Reagan is what got them released.

The voices in your head must be shouting out the windows of an insane asylum.

Address the topic or fuck off, troll.

 

[S.J.]

You have to be one of the dumbest assholes on this board. Listen carefully now. Carter was still president, yes, for one more day. The Iranians had to make a deal BEFORE Reagan was sworn in or risk having their country reduced to rubble. It doesn't matter WHO brokered the deal, the deal would not have been made if Carter had won the election. I never said Reagan brokered the fucking deal, dumbass, I said he was the REASON the deal was brokered. Damn, you are an idiot.

You only believe propaganda & political hype. You are clueless to facts. FACT: Carter had Iraq attack Iran KILLING a MILLION Iranians. Iran was begging Carter to end the embargo & release the $Billions of their money we had seized, so they could use it to buy weapons & aircraft parts to end the slaughter. Carter forced Iran into releasing all the US hostages, not Reagan campaign B.S.

Reagan was such a wimp he traded arms to Iran for hostages. Reagan did not have Iranians slaughtered like Carter did. Reagan lied & negotiated with terrorist.

You're living in a fantasy world. Carter was weak an indecisive the whole time he was in office. He didn't have a clue about how to lead.

 

[NYcarbineer]

They did. That's why Reagan had nothing to do with it.

Here, Cronkite announces Carter struck a deal, during the very end of his term, with the Iranians to release the hostages...



And here (near the end), Cronkite announces the plane with the hostages had taken off. This was before Reagan was sworn in.

Well, I guess you're gonna have to duke it out with pogo and sillybooboo because they're quite certain that Reagan and Bush made a deal with the Iranians to keep the hostages until inauguration day to make sure Carter lost (like he wouldn't have anyway). You libs need to get on the same page. Incidentally, exactly what was the deal that Carter made with the Iranians?

I don't need to sort anything out. I showed you Carter announced the deal while he was still president and it was executed before Reagan was sworn in.

Hey dumbshit, there was no deal until AFTER Carter lost the election in 1980. Carter didn't get them released, their fear of a President Reagan is what got them released.

The voices in your head must be shouting out the windows of an insane asylum.

Address the topic or fuck off, troll.

lol, a big blurty meltdown by a poster who can't handle spot on criticism.