Why did this crazy-assed, drunk white man with a gun get a pass?

[mudwhistle]

BTW, Hillary is richer than Romney.

Oh, and Romney isn't a 1%er because he doesn't have a job. You have to make enough annual income to be in the top 1% to qualify. What did Hillary get for her last book deal, $12 million in advance?

Ok, I'm gonna work really hard to figure out what in the fuck that posting has to do with the OP. But since yer a cool guy and one of the nicer Righties, I will really give it my best, for the Gipper!

It stems from an exchange I had with candycorn over who has all of the evil rich aholes in their party.

 

[Statistikhengst]

I was wondering who was shooting this video. Seemed sort of staged to me. With 911 calls in the background and all. Almost like a scene in Sons Of Anarchy or Cops.

dash cams... compiled / edited afterwards..

As the above said... when you know your on camera most people tend to act a bit nicer.

yes, but there is a VAST difference between acting nicer, and choosing whether or not to murder someone.Come on

I don't see anyone wanting to kill anyone in this video. As for the other non-related mike brown thing... there were no dash cams in the car that the cop got out of to get better shots at the fleeing black teenager.

LOL first of all let's be clear , the Brown autopsy made it clear that he was not fleeing, There is no way to shoot a fleeing suspect in the front of the body when you are behind the suspect.

Be that as it may, on the subject of dash cams, they should be MANDATORY. Here's an odd fact in 2016 all civilian cars will be required by law to have back up cameras installed, yet cop cars don't have dash cams?

I'll go even further, every cop should have a camera on his person .

However, those are departmental decisions , and no individual cop should be punished for not having one.

Yes. I think that is a very good idea.

I think it's just good common sense, plus I really enjoy watching the videos LOL

Well, if that's your form of enjoyment..... I personally prefer something tamer, like Debby does Dallas.

In a way, I am very unhappy about the "cams all over the place" trend. Not much privacy these days and people can get sucked into juristic battles just by accidentally having been in proximity to a suspect, yadayadayada..... I guess in this way, I am more Rand Paulian that I realized... lol.

 

[Statistikhengst]

BTW, Hillary is richer than Romney.

Oh, and Romney isn't a 1%er because he doesn't have a job. You have to make enough annual income to be in the top 1% to qualify. What did Hillary get for her last book deal, $12 million in advance?

Ok, I'm gonna work really hard to figure out what in the fuck that posting has to do with the OP. But since yer a cool guy and one of the nicer Righties, I will really give it my best, for the Gipper!

It stems from an exchange I had with candycorn over who has all of the evil rich aholes in their party.

There are rich people in both parties. Pffft.

 

[mudwhistle]

This whole thread is based on a false assumption that all blacks get shot for being black and all whites get nothing but a warm hug and lots of understanding.

No, it's not. You missed the point. But then again, I expected you would miss the point.

It's fun to watch Righties lurch.

Carry on.

Maybe another point was made later, but having just gone back and 're-read the OP I can only draw that conclusion.

Why did the guy get off without being charged was one question you asked, and then you asked if he had been something other than white would he have walked? This assumes that his race had something to do with leniency.

I think it had more to do with how he gave up, the fact the weopon wasn't even loaded, or the fact that he never pointed it in a threatening manner.

 

[RKMBrown]

I was wondering who was shooting this video. Seemed sort of staged to me. With 911 calls in the background and all. Almost like a scene in Sons Of Anarchy or Cops.

dash cams... compiled / edited afterwards..

As the above said... when you know your on camera most people tend to act a bit nicer.

yes, but there is a VAST difference between acting nicer, and choosing whether or not to murder someone.Come on

I don't see anyone wanting to kill anyone in this video. As for the other non-related mike brown thing... there were no dash cams in the car that the cop got out of to get better shots at the fleeing black teenager.

LOL first of all let's be clear , the Brown autopsy made it clear that he was not fleeing, There is no way to shoot a fleeing suspect in the front of the body when you are behind the suspect.

Be that as it may, on the subject of dash cams, they should be MANDATORY. Here's an odd fact in 2016 all civilian cars will be required by law to have back up cameras installed, yet cop cars don't have dash cams?

I'll go even further, every cop should have a camera on his person .

However, those are departmental decisions , and no individual cop should be punished for not having one.

Supposedly Mike Brown punched the cop and that was the impetus for the killing. If he wasn't fleeing how did he get away from the car? Did the cop back up his car while the teen chased after him on foot? Did the cop crash his car into a tree or something?

Yeah I think the police need to have dash & first person cams.

One scenario COULD be that a 300' man hit a much smaller man sending him flying 10 or even 20 feet away. I've seen it happen.

I'm not saying that IS what happened mind you. Merely that it COULD have happened that way.

Absent any evidence to the contrary , the presumption is that the cop is innocent, yes?

I used to play baseball I don't think I could hit a grown man with a bat with sufficient force to launch him 10-20 feet He might reel back and stumble 10-20 feet while backing away, but that's different. I could throw someone 10-20 feet but not punch him that far

Yes, in our country there is a certain presumption of innocence. So you think maybe the cop got out chased then got punched and backed away.. shooting as he backed up and/or after he backed up? Hmm... Doesn't fit with the reports that the only touching occurred while the cop was still in the car. My hypothesis was based on the incident starting while the police officer was in the car. Hmm.. starts in the car, gets out gives chase gets punched falls back to the car, then start shooting as Mike approached. Hmm.. Yeah if that's what happened that's better for the officer than the officer grabbed the back of Mike's neck, Mike punched the officer to get away ran, the officer got out of the car and started shooting, Mike turned around with his hands up yelling you got me, and the officer continued to fire as Mike went to the ground.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

I was wondering who was shooting this video. Seemed sort of staged to me. With 911 calls in the background and all. Almost like a scene in Sons Of Anarchy or Cops.

dash cams... compiled / edited afterwards..

As the above said... when you know your on camera most people tend to act a bit nicer.

yes, but there is a VAST difference between acting nicer, and choosing whether or not to murder someone.Come on

I don't see anyone wanting to kill anyone in this video. As for the other non-related mike brown thing... there were no dash cams in the car that the cop got out of to get better shots at the fleeing black teenager.

LOL first of all let's be clear , the Brown autopsy made it clear that he was not fleeing, There is no way to shoot a fleeing suspect in the front of the body when you are behind the suspect.

Be that as it may, on the subject of dash cams, they should be MANDATORY. Here's an odd fact in 2016 all civilian cars will be required by law to have back up cameras installed, yet cop cars don't have dash cams?

I'll go even further, every cop should have a camera on his person .

However, those are departmental decisions , and no individual cop should be punished for not having one.

Yes. I think that is a very good idea.

I think it's just good common sense, plus I really enjoy watching the videos LOL

Well, if that's your form of enjoyment..... I personally prefer something tamer, like Debby does Dallas.

In a way, I am very unhappy about the "cams all over the place" trend. Not much privacy these days and people can get sucked into juristic battles just by accidentally having been in proximity to a suspect, yadayadayada..... I guess in this way, I am more Rand Paulian that I realized... lol.

I just love videos where some guy is searched, they find coke in his pocket and each every time oh that's not mine, I borrowed these jeans from my roommate"

LOL as if the cops are EVER going to buy that, plus you're gonna get your ass whipped when your room mate sees that shit.

And the taser videos, my God it is hilarious to watch some tough talking jack ass cry like a baby when the taser lights em up.

 

[mudwhistle]

Or Mike beat the cop in the head, took his gun and it went off, tried to run, was told to freeze , turned around, started talking shit and ran at the officer who then shot his punk ass.

 

[DrDoomNGloom]

This crazy-assed, drunk white dude, jaywalking, confronted by cops, refuses to put down his gun. He was not carrying ID.

The cops talked patiently with him for 10 full minutes.

The crazy-assed, drunk white dude was talking about revolution. His name is Joseph Houseman. I wonder if his name is associated with a Tea Party chapter in Michigan...

This incident happened in Kalamazoo, Michigan in May 2014.

I wonder how patient the cops would have treated him had he not been white.

The man was never charged. Why was this man never charged? Why does a crazy-assed, drunken white senior man get a pass for breaking the law?

Hmmmmm.....

well you racist fucking low life

he didn't jaywalk and has the right to carry.

but a bunch of leftist pussies like you, got scared of the old man in pj's and called the cops.

How does it feel to be this fucking dumb?
How does it feel to be scared of the fact that people own guns?

You do not have the right to drive a car drunk, but you have the right to open carry???

Our Constitution doesn't mention cars, but it does the other.

Our Constitution also doesn't mention an Air Force with jets and drones and nuclear missiles at all, and yet, we have them and they are regulated per law. Of course the Constitution doesn't mention these things, or cars (which was your silly argument), BECAUSE THEY DID NOT EXIST YET.

Cherrypicking, what?

Moron. An Air Force is not a right. Nor is a nuclear missile. There is no issue of "rights" in relation to those things.
Firearms however do constitute a right, spelled out there in the 2A, interpreted by the Supreme Court. Dont like it? Amend the Constitution.

First, I was discussing this with IA and not with you.

Second, we we talking about what is included in the Constitution or not. Do try to keep up. It was not just about rights.

Third, when your logic, what little of it you possess, fails, all you have left are personal insults, what?

Poor you.

When the police came (after at least 3 9-1-1- calls), they found an elderly man in is pajamas at the edge of street, also walking onto the street, holding a large gun. The man is also an known person to them, they had already had run-ins with him before. He was walking AND talking as if he was drunk. He was insulting to the police officers and resisted their instructions. His reason for being such an ass: 'our rights are being taken away'.

Yepp, he's a Tea Party freak, to be sure. Probably a sovereigner, too.

These things generally do not end well for such freaks.

What a cool thread, Stats, started a pity thread and Rabbi and the crew seem to be kicking the shit out of them ...........literally!! I have seen more shit in this one thread than the law allows.

So this "response" you are so disappointed in that you did not get. That would be the one where the SWAT team dons Kevlar Body Armor, riot pads, assault batons, gas mask and Kevlar helmets?? They need those "assault rifles thingy's" the one's with those "massive oversize clips" and nifty lasers sights .............. Lets ride them all in, in one of those MRAD's with blaring sirens and let's not forget the team of sniper's we will need to ring the perimeter with...................

Wait wasn't there some kind of thread by you snot nosed liberal bastards about such excessive force??
There is that shit storm of hypocrisy that seems to follow your little liberal group ..............

By the way, I know it is over your pay grade, but police officers must take courses in psychology to join the force. While dealing primarily with interactions with others, they are taught to look for clues to such things as medical conditions, intoxication, mental illness and physical ques such as age. This man could be on the onset of dementia or Parkinson disease ................
While he posed no immediate danger to others, LEO had to evaluate / treat as if mentally deranged.

 

[jillian]

Blood for blood. Gotta even up the score. A Black man shot down in the street by a White cop, so we need to have a few White men shot down in the street by cops? Would White cops do, or do you need to have them shot down by Black cops?

Do you really consider yourself an intelligent adult?

if you're capable of reading, that isn't what is being said at all. what is being NOTED is the DISPARITY in treatment of whites and blacks by law enforcement.

it isn't that complicated. you can figure it out if you try.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

I was wondering who was shooting this video. Seemed sort of staged to me. With 911 calls in the background and all. Almost like a scene in Sons Of Anarchy or Cops.

dash cams... compiled / edited afterwards..

As the above said... when you know your on camera most people tend to act a bit nicer.

yes, but there is a VAST difference between acting nicer, and choosing whether or not to murder someone.Come on

I don't see anyone wanting to kill anyone in this video. As for the other non-related mike brown thing... there were no dash cams in the car that the cop got out of to get better shots at the fleeing black teenager.

LOL first of all let's be clear , the Brown autopsy made it clear that he was not fleeing, There is no way to shoot a fleeing suspect in the front of the body when you are behind the suspect.

Be that as it may, on the subject of dash cams, they should be MANDATORY. Here's an odd fact in 2016 all civilian cars will be required by law to have back up cameras installed, yet cop cars don't have dash cams?

I'll go even further, every cop should have a camera on his person .

However, those are departmental decisions , and no individual cop should be punished for not having one.

Supposedly Mike Brown punched the cop and that was the impetus for the killing. If he wasn't fleeing how did he get away from the car? Did the cop back up his car while the teen chased after him on foot? Did the cop crash his car into a tree or something?

Yeah I think the police need to have dash & first person cams.

One scenario COULD be that a 300' man hit a much smaller man sending him flying 10 or even 20 feet away. I've seen it happen.

I'm not saying that IS what happened mind you. Merely that it COULD have happened that way.

Absent any evidence to the contrary , the presumption is that the cop is innocent, yes?

I used to play baseball I don't think I could hit a grown man with a bat with sufficient force to launch him 10-20 feet He might reel back and stumble 10-20 feet while backing away, but that's different.

Yes, in our country there is a certain presumption of innocence. So you think maybe the cop got out chased then got punched and backed away.. shooting as he backed up and/or after he backed up? Hmm... Doesn't fit with the reports that the only touching occurred while the cop was still in the car. My hypothesis was based on the incident starting while the police officer was in the car. Hmm.. starts in the car, gets out gives chase gets punched falls back to the car, then start shooting as Mike approached. Hmm.. Yeah if that's what happened that's better for the officer than the officer grabbed the back of Mike's neck, Mike punched the officer to get away ran, the officer got out of the car and started shooting, Mike turned around with his hands up yelling you got me, and the officer continued to fire as Mike went to the ground.

IF Mike had his hands up and was surrendering , it was murder . IF any other scenario happened it was a legal shoot.

Remember MO law actually allows a cop to shoot a fleeing felon in the back. I don't think that's what happened here, but it would have been legal. That only changes once the suspect is no longer likely to get away . In other words if you chased a guy into an alley and him cornered. He isn't going anywhere. You can't just shoot him. Unless of course he attacks you.

 

[Statistikhengst]

This crazy-assed, drunk white dude, jaywalking, confronted by cops, refuses to put down his gun. He was not carrying ID.

The cops talked patiently with him for 10 full minutes.

The crazy-assed, drunk white dude was talking about revolution. His name is Joseph Houseman. I wonder if his name is associated with a Tea Party chapter in Michigan...

This incident happened in Kalamazoo, Michigan in May 2014.

I wonder how patient the cops would have treated him had he not been white.

The man was never charged. Why was this man never charged? Why does a crazy-assed, drunken white senior man get a pass for breaking the law?

Hmmmmm.....

well you racist fucking low life

he didn't jaywalk and has the right to carry.

but a bunch of leftist pussies like you, got scared of the old man in pj's and called the cops.

How does it feel to be this fucking dumb?
How does it feel to be scared of the fact that people own guns?

You do not have the right to drive a car drunk, but you have the right to open carry???

Our Constitution doesn't mention cars, but it does the other.

Our Constitution also doesn't mention an Air Force with jets and drones and nuclear missiles at all, and yet, we have them and they are regulated per law. Of course the Constitution doesn't mention these things, or cars (which was your silly argument), BECAUSE THEY DID NOT EXIST YET.

Cherrypicking, what?

Moron. An Air Force is not a right. Nor is a nuclear missile. There is no issue of "rights" in relation to those things.
Firearms however do constitute a right, spelled out there in the 2A, interpreted by the Supreme Court. Dont like it? Amend the Constitution.

First, I was discussing this with IA and not with you.

Second, we we talking about what is included in the Constitution or not. Do try to keep up. It was not just about rights.

Third, when your logic, what little of it you possess, fails, all you have left are personal insults, what?

Poor you.

When the police came (after at least 3 9-1-1- calls), they found an elderly man in is pajamas at the edge of street, also walking onto the street, holding a large gun. The man is also an known person to them, they had already had run-ins with him before. He was walking AND talking as if he was drunk. He was insulting to the police officers and resisted their instructions. His reason for being such an ass: 'our rights are being taken away'.

Yepp, he's a Tea Party freak, to be sure. Probably a sovereigner, too.

These things generally do not end well for such freaks.

What a cool thread, Stats, started a pity thread and Rabbi and the crew seem to be kicking the shit out of them ...........literally!! I have seen more shit in this one thread than the law allows.

So this "response" you are so disappointed in that you did not get. That would be the one where the SWAT team dons Kevlar Body Armor, riot pads, assault batons, gas mask and Kevlar helmets?? They need those "assault rifles thingy's" the one's with those "massive oversize clips" and nifty lasers sights .............. Lets ride them all in, in one of those MRAD's with blaring sirens and let's not forget the team of sniper's we will need to ring the perimeter with...................

Wait wasn't there some kind of thread by you snot nosed liberal bastards about such excessive force??
There is that shit storm of hypocrisy that seems to follow your little liberal group ..............

By the way, I know it is over your pay grade, but police officers must take courses in psychology to join the force. While dealing primarily with interactions with others, they are taught to look for clues to such things as medical conditions, intoxication, mental illness and physical ques such as age. This man could be on the onset of dementia or Parkinson disease ................
While he posed no immediate danger to others, LEO had to evaluate / treat as if mentally deranged.

Well, I don't really know you, but I am pretty sure that your mentally dilapidated posting made sense in some universe, somewhere...

Tsk, tsk, more anger from a Tea Party freak.

I am so surprised.

 

[Statistikhengst]

Blood for blood. Gotta even up the score. A Black man shot down in the street by a White cop, so we need to have a few White men shot down in the street by cops? Would White cops do, or do you need to have them shot down by Black cops?

Do you really consider yourself an intelligent adult?

if you're capable of reading, that isn't what is being said at all. what is being NOTED is the DISPARITY in treatment of whites and blacks by law enforcement.

it isn't that complicated. you can figure it out if you try.

I just decided to make them rub a couple of brain cells together to see if they could figure it out.

Some figured it out. Others are stll lusting after the Kibbles and Bits on the kitchen table.

 

[jillian]

This crazy-assed, drunk white dude, jaywalking, confronted by cops, refuses to put down his gun. He was not carrying ID.

The cops talked patiently with him for 10 full minutes.

The crazy-assed, drunk white dude was talking about revolution. His name is Joseph Houseman. I wonder if his name is associated with a Tea Party chapter in Michigan...

This incident happened in Kalamazoo, Michigan in May 2014.

I wonder how patient the cops would have treated him had he not been white.

The man was never charged. Why was this man never charged? Why does a crazy-assed, drunken white senior man get a pass for breaking the law?

Hmmmmm.....

well you racist fucking low life

he didn't jaywalk and has the right to carry.

but a bunch of leftist pussies like you, got scared of the old man in pj's and called the cops.

How does it feel to be this fucking dumb?
How does it feel to be scared of the fact that people own guns?

You do not have the right to drive a car drunk, but you have the right to open carry???

Our Constitution doesn't mention cars, but it does the other.

Our Constitution also doesn't mention an Air Force with jets and drones and nuclear missiles at all, and yet, we have them and they are regulated per law. Of course the Constitution doesn't mention these things, or cars (which was your silly argument), BECAUSE THEY DID NOT EXIST YET.

Cherrypicking, what?

Moron. An Air Force is not a right. Nor is a nuclear missile. There is no issue of "rights" in relation to those things.
Firearms however do constitute a right, spelled out there in the 2A, interpreted by the Supreme Court. Dont like it? Amend the Constitution.

First, I was discussing this with IA and not with you.

Second, we we talking about what is included in the Constitution or not. Do try to keep up. It was not just about rights.

Third, when your logic, what little of it you possess, fails, all you have left are personal insults, what?

Poor you.

When the police came (after at least 3 9-1-1- calls), they found an elderly man in is pajamas at the edge of street, also walking onto the street, holding a large gun. The man is also an known person to them, they had already had run-ins with him before. He was walking AND talking as if he was drunk. He was insulting to the police officers and resisted their instructions. His reason for being such an ass: 'our rights are being taken away'.

Yepp, he's a Tea Party freak, to be sure. Probably a sovereigner, too.

These things generally do not end well for such freaks.

What a cool thread, Stats, started a pity thread and Rabbi and the crew seem to be kicking the shit out of them ...........literally!! I have seen more shit in this one thread than the law allows.

So this "response" you are so disappointed in that you did not get. That would be the one where the SWAT team dons Kevlar Body Armor, riot pads, assault batons, gas mask and Kevlar helmets?? They need those "assault rifles thingy's" the one's with those "massive oversize clips" and nifty lasers sights .............. Lets ride them all in, in one of those MRAD's with blaring sirens and let's not forget the team of sniper's we will need to ring the perimeter with...................

Wait wasn't there some kind of thread by you snot nosed liberal bastards about such excessive force??
There is that shit storm of hypocrisy that seems to follow your little liberal group ..............

By the way, I know it is over your pay grade, but police officers must take courses in psychology to join the force. While dealing primarily with interactions with others, they are taught to look for clues to such things as medical conditions, intoxication, mental illness and physical ques such as age. This man could be on the onset of dementia or Parkinson disease ................
While he posed no immediate danger to others, LEO had to evaluate / treat as if mentally deranged.

you seem to totally miss the point.

yes, law enforcement has to make a split second decision.

but a normal person understands that that split second decision seems to be skewed when used against unarmed black men while given huge latitude when used with respect to ARMED white men.

understand now?

I understand it is above your pay grade to draw such distinctions. but do try.

 

[Statistikhengst]

This crazy-assed, drunk white dude, jaywalking, confronted by cops, refuses to put down his gun. He was not carrying ID.

The cops talked patiently with him for 10 full minutes.

The crazy-assed, drunk white dude was talking about revolution. His name is Joseph Houseman. I wonder if his name is associated with a Tea Party chapter in Michigan...

This incident happened in Kalamazoo, Michigan in May 2014.

I wonder how patient the cops would have treated him had he not been white.

The man was never charged. Why was this man never charged? Why does a crazy-assed, drunken white senior man get a pass for breaking the law?

Hmmmmm.....

well you racist fucking low life

he didn't jaywalk and has the right to carry.

but a bunch of leftist pussies like you, got scared of the old man in pj's and called the cops.

How does it feel to be this fucking dumb?
How does it feel to be scared of the fact that people own guns?

You do not have the right to drive a car drunk, but you have the right to open carry???

Our Constitution doesn't mention cars, but it does the other.

Our Constitution also doesn't mention an Air Force with jets and drones and nuclear missiles at all, and yet, we have them and they are regulated per law. Of course the Constitution doesn't mention these things, or cars (which was your silly argument), BECAUSE THEY DID NOT EXIST YET.

Cherrypicking, what?

Moron. An Air Force is not a right. Nor is a nuclear missile. There is no issue of "rights" in relation to those things.
Firearms however do constitute a right, spelled out there in the 2A, interpreted by the Supreme Court. Dont like it? Amend the Constitution.

First, I was discussing this with IA and not with you.

Second, we we talking about what is included in the Constitution or not. Do try to keep up. It was not just about rights.

Third, when your logic, what little of it you possess, fails, all you have left are personal insults, what?

Poor you.

When the police came (after at least 3 9-1-1- calls), they found an elderly man in is pajamas at the edge of street, also walking onto the street, holding a large gun. The man is also an known person to them, they had already had run-ins with him before. He was walking AND talking as if he was drunk. He was insulting to the police officers and resisted their instructions. His reason for being such an ass: 'our rights are being taken away'.

Yepp, he's a Tea Party freak, to be sure. Probably a sovereigner, too.

These things generally do not end well for such freaks.

What a cool thread, Stats, started a pity thread and Rabbi and the crew seem to be kicking the shit out of them ...........literally!! I have seen more shit in this one thread than the law allows.

So this "response" you are so disappointed in that you did not get. That would be the one where the SWAT team dons Kevlar Body Armor, riot pads, assault batons, gas mask and Kevlar helmets?? They need those "assault rifles thingy's" the one's with those "massive oversize clips" and nifty lasers sights .............. Lets ride them all in, in one of those MRAD's with blaring sirens and let's not forget the team of sniper's we will need to ring the perimeter with...................

Wait wasn't there some kind of thread by you snot nosed liberal bastards about such excessive force??
There is that shit storm of hypocrisy that seems to follow your little liberal group ..............

By the way, I know it is over your pay grade, but police officers must take courses in psychology to join the force. While dealing primarily with interactions with others, they are taught to look for clues to such things as medical conditions, intoxication, mental illness and physical ques such as age. This man could be on the onset of dementia or Parkinson disease ................
While he posed no immediate danger to others, LEO had to evaluate / treat as if mentally deranged.

you seem to totally miss the point.

yes, law enforcement has to make a split second decision.

but a normal person understands that that split second decision seems to be skewed when used against unarmed black men while given huge latitude when used with respect to ARMED white men.

understand now?

I understand it is above your pay grade to draw such distinctions. but do try.

Bingo.

 

[DrDoomNGloom]

This crazy-assed, drunk white dude, jaywalking, confronted by cops, refuses to put down his gun. He was not carrying ID.

The cops talked patiently with him for 10 full minutes.

The crazy-assed, drunk white dude was talking about revolution. His name is Joseph Houseman. I wonder if his name is associated with a Tea Party chapter in Michigan...

This incident happened in Kalamazoo, Michigan in May 2014.

I wonder how patient the cops would have treated him had he not been white.

The man was never charged. Why was this man never charged? Why does a crazy-assed, drunken white senior man get a pass for breaking the law?

Hmmmmm.....

well you racist fucking low life

he didn't jaywalk and has the right to carry.

but a bunch of leftist pussies like you, got scared of the old man in pj's and called the cops.

How does it feel to be this fucking dumb?
How does it feel to be scared of the fact that people own guns?

You do not have the right to drive a car drunk, but you have the right to open carry???

Our Constitution doesn't mention cars, but it does the other.

Our Constitution also doesn't mention an Air Force with jets and drones and nuclear missiles at all, and yet, we have them and they are regulated per law. Of course the Constitution doesn't mention these things, or cars (which was your silly argument), BECAUSE THEY DID NOT EXIST YET.

Cherrypicking, what?

Moron. An Air Force is not a right. Nor is a nuclear missile. There is no issue of "rights" in relation to those things.
Firearms however do constitute a right, spelled out there in the 2A, interpreted by the Supreme Court. Dont like it? Amend the Constitution.

First, I was discussing this with IA and not with you.

Second, we we talking about what is included in the Constitution or not. Do try to keep up. It was not just about rights.

Third, when your logic, what little of it you possess, fails, all you have left are personal insults, what?

Poor you.

When the police came (after at least 3 9-1-1- calls), they found an elderly man in is pajamas at the edge of street, also walking onto the street, holding a large gun. The man is also an known person to them, they had already had run-ins with him before. He was walking AND talking as if he was drunk. He was insulting to the police officers and resisted their instructions. His reason for being such an ass: 'our rights are being taken away'.

Yepp, he's a Tea Party freak, to be sure. Probably a sovereigner, too.

These things generally do not end well for such freaks.

What a cool thread, Stats, started a pity thread and Rabbi and the crew seem to be kicking the shit out of them ...........literally!! I have seen more shit in this one thread than the law allows.

So this "response" you are so disappointed in that you did not get. That would be the one where the SWAT team dons Kevlar Body Armor, riot pads, assault batons, gas mask and Kevlar helmets?? They need those "assault rifles thingy's" the one's with those "massive oversize clips" and nifty lasers sights .............. Lets ride them all in, in one of those MRAD's with blaring sirens and let's not forget the team of sniper's we will need to ring the perimeter with...................

Wait wasn't there some kind of thread by you snot nosed liberal bastards about such excessive force??
There is that shit storm of hypocrisy that seems to follow your little liberal group ..............

By the way, I know it is over your pay grade, but police officers must take courses in psychology to join the force. While dealing primarily with interactions with others, they are taught to look for clues to such things as medical conditions, intoxication, mental illness and physical ques such as age. This man could be on the onset of dementia or Parkinson disease ................
While he posed no immediate danger to others, LEO had to evaluate / treat as if mentally deranged.

Well, I don't really know you, but I am pretty sure that your mentally dilapidated posting made sense in some universe, somewhere...

Tsk, tsk, more anger from a Tea Party freak.

I am so surprised.

You insist on labeling others and are wrong in that process, totally impotent .......
I do not see any rebuttal, just another childish rant from another childish poster!!

Continue on, I like to dick down ignorant fucking cocksuckers like you!!

 

[DrDoomNGloom]

This crazy-assed, drunk white dude, jaywalking, confronted by cops, refuses to put down his gun. He was not carrying ID.

The cops talked patiently with him for 10 full minutes.

The crazy-assed, drunk white dude was talking about revolution. His name is Joseph Houseman. I wonder if his name is associated with a Tea Party chapter in Michigan...

This incident happened in Kalamazoo, Michigan in May 2014.

I wonder how patient the cops would have treated him had he not been white.

The man was never charged. Why was this man never charged? Why does a crazy-assed, drunken white senior man get a pass for breaking the law?

Hmmmmm.....

well you racist fucking low life

he didn't jaywalk and has the right to carry.

but a bunch of leftist pussies like you, got scared of the old man in pj's and called the cops.

How does it feel to be this fucking dumb?
How does it feel to be scared of the fact that people own guns?

You do not have the right to drive a car drunk, but you have the right to open carry???

Our Constitution doesn't mention cars, but it does the other.

Our Constitution also doesn't mention an Air Force with jets and drones and nuclear missiles at all, and yet, we have them and they are regulated per law. Of course the Constitution doesn't mention these things, or cars (which was your silly argument), BECAUSE THEY DID NOT EXIST YET.

Cherrypicking, what?

Moron. An Air Force is not a right. Nor is a nuclear missile. There is no issue of "rights" in relation to those things.
Firearms however do constitute a right, spelled out there in the 2A, interpreted by the Supreme Court. Dont like it? Amend the Constitution.

First, I was discussing this with IA and not with you.

Second, we we talking about what is included in the Constitution or not. Do try to keep up. It was not just about rights.

Third, when your logic, what little of it you possess, fails, all you have left are personal insults, what?

Poor you.

When the police came (after at least 3 9-1-1- calls), they found an elderly man in is pajamas at the edge of street, also walking onto the street, holding a large gun. The man is also an known person to them, they had already had run-ins with him before. He was walking AND talking as if he was drunk. He was insulting to the police officers and resisted their instructions. His reason for being such an ass: 'our rights are being taken away'.

Yepp, he's a Tea Party freak, to be sure. Probably a sovereigner, too.

These things generally do not end well for such freaks.

What a cool thread, Stats, started a pity thread and Rabbi and the crew seem to be kicking the shit out of them ...........literally!! I have seen more shit in this one thread than the law allows.

So this "response" you are so disappointed in that you did not get. That would be the one where the SWAT team dons Kevlar Body Armor, riot pads, assault batons, gas mask and Kevlar helmets?? They need those "assault rifles thingy's" the one's with those "massive oversize clips" and nifty lasers sights .............. Lets ride them all in, in one of those MRAD's with blaring sirens and let's not forget the team of sniper's we will need to ring the perimeter with...................

Wait wasn't there some kind of thread by you snot nosed liberal bastards about such excessive force??
There is that shit storm of hypocrisy that seems to follow your little liberal group ..............

By the way, I know it is over your pay grade, but police officers must take courses in psychology to join the force. While dealing primarily with interactions with others, they are taught to look for clues to such things as medical conditions, intoxication, mental illness and physical ques such as age. This man could be on the onset of dementia or Parkinson disease ................
While he posed no immediate danger to others, LEO had to evaluate / treat as if mentally deranged.

you seem to totally miss the point.

yes, law enforcement has to make a split second decision.

but a normal person understands that that split second decision seems to be skewed when used against unarmed black men while given huge latitude when used with respect to ARMED white men.

understand now?

I understand it is above your pay grade to draw such distinctions. but do try.

No, not really, that is just the talking point agenda that this thread was started to promote.

I understand alright that there is a need to try and push a racial narrative that the WHITE man in BLUE is ABUSING the BLACK man!!!

Did I get the highlighted parts right??

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

Or Mike beat the cop in the head, took his gun and it went off, tried to run, was told to freeze , turned around, started talking shit and ran at the officer who then shot his punk ass.

You know it would give the liberal dopeys a lot less ammo if people like you didn't seem so joyful about the fact that a black kid got shot.

Did he leave the cop no other choice? I certainly believe that is the case. Does that make it a GOOD thing that he was killed? No.

 

[g5000]

Well, Rabid is the definition of stupid, ignorant people. A white man with a gun threatoning to kill people is just someone having a bad day. But a black teenager jaywalking is a threat to society and should be gunned down.

he didn't threaten to kill people you lying fuck

A drunk guy with a gun in the middle of the street doesn't present a reasonable threat?

Really?

He never presented a danger which warranted the use of deadly force.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

This crazy-assed, drunk white dude, jaywalking, confronted by cops, refuses to put down his gun. He was not carrying ID.

The cops talked patiently with him for 10 full minutes.

The crazy-assed, drunk white dude was talking about revolution. His name is Joseph Houseman. I wonder if his name is associated with a Tea Party chapter in Michigan...

This incident happened in Kalamazoo, Michigan in May 2014.

I wonder how patient the cops would have treated him had he not been white.

The man was never charged. Why was this man never charged? Why does a crazy-assed, drunken white senior man get a pass for breaking the law?

Hmmmmm.....

Did he attack the cops physically? Did he just rob a store? Did he try to escape after committing battery?

ARE YOU A FUCKING RETARD OR JUST A RACE BAITING LIBERAL FAGGOT?

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

This crazy-assed, drunk white dude, jaywalking, confronted by cops, refuses to put down his gun. He was not carrying ID.

The cops talked patiently with him for 10 full minutes.

The crazy-assed, drunk white dude was talking about revolution. His name is Joseph Houseman. I wonder if his name is associated with a Tea Party chapter in Michigan...

This incident happened in Kalamazoo, Michigan in May 2014.

I wonder how patient the cops would have treated him had he not been white.

The man was never charged. Why was this man never charged? Why does a crazy-assed, drunken white senior man get a pass for breaking the law?

Hmmmmm.....

well you racist fucking low life

he didn't jaywalk and has the right to carry.

but a bunch of leftist pussies like you, got scared of the old man in pj's and called the cops.

How does it feel to be this fucking dumb?
How does it feel to be scared of the fact that people own guns?

You do not have the right to drive a car drunk, but you have the right to open carry???

Our Constitution doesn't mention cars, but it does the other.

Our Constitution also doesn't mention an Air Force with jets and drones and nuclear missiles at all, and yet, we have them and they are regulated per law. Of course the Constitution doesn't mention these things, or cars (which was your silly argument), BECAUSE THEY DID NOT EXIST YET.

Cherrypicking, what?

Moron. An Air Force is not a right. Nor is a nuclear missile. There is no issue of "rights" in relation to those things.
Firearms however do constitute a right, spelled out there in the 2A, interpreted by the Supreme Court. Dont like it? Amend the Constitution.

First, I was discussing this with IA and not with you.

Second, we we talking about what is included in the Constitution or not. Do try to keep up. It was not just about rights.

Third, when your logic, what little of it you possess, fails, all you have left are personal insults, what?

Poor you.

When the police came (after at least 3 9-1-1- calls), they found an elderly man in is pajamas at the edge of street, also walking onto the street, holding a large gun. The man is also an known person to them, they had already had run-ins with him before. He was walking AND talking as if he was drunk. He was insulting to the police officers and resisted their instructions. His reason for being such an ass: 'our rights are being taken away'.

Yepp, he's a Tea Party freak, to be sure. Probably a sovereigner, too.

These things generally do not end well for such freaks.

What a cool thread, Stats, started a pity thread and Rabbi and the crew seem to be kicking the shit out of them ...........literally!! I have seen more shit in this one thread than the law allows.

So this "response" you are so disappointed in that you did not get. That would be the one where the SWAT team dons Kevlar Body Armor, riot pads, assault batons, gas mask and Kevlar helmets?? They need those "assault rifles thingy's" the one's with those "massive oversize clips" and nifty lasers sights .............. Lets ride them all in, in one of those MRAD's with blaring sirens and let's not forget the team of sniper's we will need to ring the perimeter with...................

Wait wasn't there some kind of thread by you snot nosed liberal bastards about such excessive force??
There is that shit storm of hypocrisy that seems to follow your little liberal group ..............

By the way, I know it is over your pay grade, but police officers must take courses in psychology to join the force. While dealing primarily with interactions with others, they are taught to look for clues to such things as medical conditions, intoxication, mental illness and physical ques such as age. This man could be on the onset of dementia or Parkinson disease ................
While he posed no immediate danger to others, LEO had to evaluate / treat as if mentally deranged.

you seem to totally miss the point.

yes, law enforcement has to make a split second decision.

but a normal person understands that that split second decision seems to be skewed when used against unarmed black men while given huge latitude when used with respect to ARMED white men.

understand now?

I understand it is above your pay grade to draw such distinctions. but do try.

That perception is of course ridiculous.

If black men were indiscriminately being killed by white cops , then 80% of the prison population wouldn't be black, because those blacks would be dead.

We can play tit for tat all day long, it's irrelevant, EVERY case is different in how it plays out as to whether a shooting occurs.

And the plain simple fact of the matter is, police shootings rarely happen compared to the number of arrests police make.

Look at NYC , just as an example.

Because Our Cops Don rsquo t Fire Their Guns Unless They Have To - Reasons to Love New York 2010 -- New York Magazine

In one year NYPD responded to two hundred and six THOUSAND calls that involved a weapon of some kind. In 47 of those cases a cop fired his weapon. FORTY SEVEN. That is some INCREDIBLE police work, to hand 206K weapons related calls and only fire a weapon 47 times.