Why do Americans feel like taxes are somehow the government robbing them of money?

[Bush92]

Two major steps forward if America has the courage to do it:
1.) End ALL food stamp programs.
2.) Tear down ALL public housing.

 

[ScienceRocks]

People shouldn't be allowed a drivers licenses if they refuse to pay for the roads.
The police shouldn't save their ass if they refuse to pay for the cops.
On and on...

YOu people that hate investment and paying for shit are thief's and scum. Stop driving on our roads and sending your children to our schools if you're going to be bums.

 

[danielpalos]

I just can‘t seem to understand why so many Americans are extremely sensitive when it comes to taxes, and often oppose strongly of a progressive tax system.
At least personally, I think of taxes as giving back to the society and community, and I enjoy many of the governments services every day.
Also. I don‘t understand the objection towards a progressive taxation system

When you are taxed exessively you are giving money to people who are at the very least corrupt and greedy...why on earth is it better for you to give the money you earn to politicians to spend. They waste the money, steal it, spend it on themselves and their friends.......and yet you think it is better that they spend it than you.

A progressive tax system is unfair....you work harder, smarter, better, more efficiently....and they take more of what you earn......you don't do as well, you don't try as hard, you don't create, you work less efficiently, and they tax you less...

How does that make any sense. the tax rate should be the same...that is the fairest method to raise taxes....

Why not lower our tax burden by ending our War on Drugs? Does it usually only deny and disparage Individual Liberty for the least wealthy and the Right feels less need to end that boondoggle and generational form of theft as a result of the least wealthy being worth less under our form of Capitalism.

Why should anyone believe that equality in taxation is not a form of socialism not capitalism; equality is a social concept not a capital concept. Are the wealthiest not really full of worth as is claimed by Capitalists on their Income tax returns.

Does the right prefer to believe in Socialism merely for their bottom line.

I am all for talking about loosening drug laws....

Don't talk marxist crap....too many people died because of it...100 million murdered.......

Everyone should pay the same rate...that is fair. And you still get to stick it to the rich since 15% of 100 million is still more than 15% of 70 grand....

Cool. I am glad you are for ending the drug war; i hope to count on your support with your elected representatives.

And, don't talk to me about capitalist crap; people are still dying everyday due to a lack of socialism in many parts of the less developed but more Capitalist world.

And, no, everyone should not pay the same rate under any form of capitalism; are you a marxist in disguise?

 

[ScienceRocks]

Two major steps forward if America has the courage to do it:
1.) End ALL food stamp programs.
2.) Tear down ALL public housing.

Always hatting on the lower class. What scum. You got lucky in life and you think everyone can.

 

[Bush92]

People shouldn't be allowed a drivers licenses if they refuse to pay for the roads.
The police shouldn't save their ass if they refuse to pay for the cops.
On and on...

YOu people that hate investment and paying for shit are thief's and scum. Stop driving on our roads and sending your children to our schools if you're going to be bums.

Stop eating food stamps on my dollar, free lunches for your wedlock babies in school, and get the fuck out of housing I'm paying for.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

You enjoy the fruits of those taxes but you think it is robbing from you??/ You don't believe in civilization is what you're saying.

That's a canard....

While I am all for taxes, I think statements like that are what really make good debate difficult.

The Social Security you pay in is not a fruit. It is simply satisfying the obligation of the government who paid a lot of people on the front end who never put into the system.

Your only fruit is when you get old, the young will support you. You get nothing from it now. And spare me that "it's taking care of your parents argument"....it isn't.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

No one is calling for "no taxes". We want fair taxes and we want government to stop WASTING it. Is that too much to ask?

Republicans waste our taxes on corporate welfare, foreign welfare, and bloated defense spending.

You are correct.

But is that somehow justifies government waste on the left....I fail to see how.

It is simply a confirmation of the original assertion. on the part of S.J.

 

[Bush92]

Two major steps forward if America has the courage to do it:
1.) End ALL food stamp programs.
2.) Tear down ALL public housing.

Always hatting on the lower class. What scum. You got lucky in life and you think everyone can.

I worked hard for everything I got. Served my country in war. Worked and went to college at night. FUCK YOU!

 

[Billy000]

Two major steps forward if America has the courage to do it:
1.) End ALL food stamp programs.
2.) Tear down ALL public housing.

Do you even know how much per year is spent on food stamps programs?

 

[Bush92]

Two major steps forward if America has the courage to do it:
1.) End ALL food stamp programs.
2.) Tear down ALL public housing.

Do you even know how much per year is spent on food stamps programs?

1 dollar is too much. Not my responsibility to pay for two people fucking and producing a little turd they can't support.

 

[Darkwind]

I just can‘t seem to understand why so many Americans are extremely sensitive when it comes to taxes, and often oppose strongly of a progressive tax system.
At least personally, I think of taxes as giving back to the society and community, and I enjoy many of the governments services every day.
Also. I don‘t understand the objection towards a progressive taxation system

When you are taxed exessively you are giving money to people who are at the very least corrupt and greedy...why on earth is it better for you to give the money you earn to politicians to spend. They waste the money, steal it, spend it on themselves and their friends.......and yet you think it is better that they spend it than you.

A progressive tax system is unfair....you work harder, smarter, better, more efficiently....and they take more of what you earn......you don't do as well, you don't try as hard, you don't create, you work less efficiently, and they tax you less...

How does that make any sense. the tax rate should be the same...that is the fairest method to raise taxes....

Why not lower our tax burden by ending our War on Drugs? Does it usually only deny and disparage Individual Liberty for the least wealthy and the Right feels less need to end that boondoggle and generational form of theft as a result of the least wealthy being worth less under our form of Capitalism.

Why should anyone believe that equality in taxation is not a form of socialism not capitalism; equality is a social concept not a capital concept. Are the wealthiest not really full of worth as is claimed by Capitalists on their Income tax returns.

Does the right prefer to believe in Socialism merely for their bottom line.

I am all for talking about loosening drug laws....

Don't talk marxist crap....too many people died because of it...100 million murdered.......

Everyone should pay the same rate...that is fair. And you still get to stick it to the rich since 15% of 100 million is still more than 15% of 70 grand....

Cool. I am glad you are for ending the drug war; i hope to count on your support with your elected representatives.

And, don't talk to me about capitalist crap; people are still dying everyday due to a lack of socialism in many parts of the less developed but more Capitalist world.

And, no, everyone should not pay the same rate under any form of capitalism; are you a marxist in disguise?

You have that wrong (big surprise)..

People are dying every day BECAUSE of socialism.....

 

[danielpalos]

ah, so being a jerk is your gig. now we get it. that's about the FIFTH time you've said that since you and your jerk buddies has OVER taken this thread with your all's continuous spew in post after post. go outside and play or something. You're making a fool out of yourself

Is the right too socially lazy to provide a thoughtful response instead of Only having fallacies (of ad hominem) to work with?

Income taxes are not the Only taxes; it is just special pleading on the part of the socially less responsible Right.

Special pleading is usually considered a fallacy.

You should stop trying to use words you don't understand.

You should stop trying to have nothing but diversion, which is also usually considered a fallacy.

Is it Any wonder why some on the left believe the Right is just full of fallacy.

What is it with you and the word "fallacy"? Do you see the irony of using that word in your posts?

a new word they learned in romper room last week. They still look like an raving freaking idiot no matter.

Just the Right complaining about others knowing how to avoid taxes while not having to "bribe" Congress for a Tax loophole large enough to drive a yacht through.

 

[Bush92]

Gee, what happened in 2008 that caused this? Hmmmmmmmmmm

 

[Bush92]

Is the right too socially lazy to provide a thoughtful response instead of Only having fallacies (of ad hominem) to work with?

Income taxes are not the Only taxes; it is just special pleading on the part of the socially less responsible Right.

Special pleading is usually considered a fallacy.

You should stop trying to use words you don't understand.

You should stop trying to have nothing but diversion, which is also usually considered a fallacy.

Is it Any wonder why some on the left believe the Right is just full of fallacy.

What is it with you and the word "fallacy"? Do you see the irony of using that word in your posts?

a new word they learned in romper room last week. They still look like an raving freaking idiot no matter.

Just the Right complaining about others knowing how to avoid taxes while not having to "bribe" Congress for a Tax loophole large enough to drive a yacht through.

Damn those hard working successful people who support our nation!

 

[danielpalos]

I just can‘t seem to understand why so many Americans are extremely sensitive when it comes to taxes, and often oppose strongly of a progressive tax system.
At least personally, I think of taxes as giving back to the society and community, and I enjoy many of the governments services every day.
Also. I don‘t understand the objection towards a progressive taxation system

When you are taxed exessively you are giving money to people who are at the very least corrupt and greedy...why on earth is it better for you to give the money you earn to politicians to spend. They waste the money, steal it, spend it on themselves and their friends.......and yet you think it is better that they spend it than you.

A progressive tax system is unfair....you work harder, smarter, better, more efficiently....and they take more of what you earn......you don't do as well, you don't try as hard, you don't create, you work less efficiently, and they tax you less...

How does that make any sense. the tax rate should be the same...that is the fairest method to raise taxes....

Why not lower our tax burden by ending our War on Drugs? Does it usually only deny and disparage Individual Liberty for the least wealthy and the Right feels less need to end that boondoggle and generational form of theft as a result of the least wealthy being worth less under our form of Capitalism.

Why should anyone believe that equality in taxation is not a form of socialism not capitalism; equality is a social concept not a capital concept. Are the wealthiest not really full of worth as is claimed by Capitalists on their Income tax returns.

Does the right prefer to believe in Socialism merely for their bottom line.

I am all for talking about loosening drug laws....

Don't talk marxist crap....too many people died because of it...100 million murdered.......

Everyone should pay the same rate...that is fair. And you still get to stick it to the rich since 15% of 100 million is still more than 15% of 70 grand....

Cool. I am glad you are for ending the drug war; i hope to count on your support with your elected representatives.

And, don't talk to me about capitalist crap; people are still dying everyday due to a lack of socialism in many parts of the less developed but more Capitalist world.

And, no, everyone should not pay the same rate under any form of capitalism; are you a marxist in disguise?

You have that wrong (big surprise)..

People are dying every day BECAUSE of socialism.....

Nothing but appeals to ignorance? Even the right admits our poor are not really poor enough by the absolute poverty standard of the more capital, but less developed Third World.

Any more true witness bearing for your stockholders, my good capitalist.

 

[Bush92]

 

[Darkwind]

When you are taxed exessively you are giving money to people who are at the very least corrupt and greedy...why on earth is it better for you to give the money you earn to politicians to spend. They waste the money, steal it, spend it on themselves and their friends.......and yet you think it is better that they spend it than you.

A progressive tax system is unfair....you work harder, smarter, better, more efficiently....and they take more of what you earn......you don't do as well, you don't try as hard, you don't create, you work less efficiently, and they tax you less...

How does that make any sense. the tax rate should be the same...that is the fairest method to raise taxes....

Why not lower our tax burden by ending our War on Drugs? Does it usually only deny and disparage Individual Liberty for the least wealthy and the Right feels less need to end that boondoggle and generational form of theft as a result of the least wealthy being worth less under our form of Capitalism.

Why should anyone believe that equality in taxation is not a form of socialism not capitalism; equality is a social concept not a capital concept. Are the wealthiest not really full of worth as is claimed by Capitalists on their Income tax returns.

Does the right prefer to believe in Socialism merely for their bottom line.

I am all for talking about loosening drug laws....

Don't talk marxist crap....too many people died because of it...100 million murdered.......

Everyone should pay the same rate...that is fair. And you still get to stick it to the rich since 15% of 100 million is still more than 15% of 70 grand....

Cool. I am glad you are for ending the drug war; i hope to count on your support with your elected representatives.

And, don't talk to me about capitalist crap; people are still dying everyday due to a lack of socialism in many parts of the less developed but more Capitalist world.

And, no, everyone should not pay the same rate under any form of capitalism; are you a marxist in disguise?

You have that wrong (big surprise)..

People are dying every day BECAUSE of socialism.....

Nothing but appeals to ignorance? Even the right admits our poor are not really poor enough by the absolute poverty standard of the more capital, but less developed Third World.

Any more true witness bearing for your stockholders, my good capitalist.

Yes, they are far better off than some aborigine living in the sub-Saharan desert.

But that is NOT because of socialism.

It is because of Capitalism.

 

[Stephanie]

What most of us want is for the government to spend our tax dollars in a wise and responsible manner.

The same people who don't want to spend money on education and create good-paying job opportunities for our nation's young people (and future tax payers) are the same ones clamoring for those young people to be thrown in prisons. They don't understand why disadvantaged youth might find it more lucrative to sell drugs or steal crap from your garage or become radicals because they can't make a decent living or support families on minimum wage jobs. Dunderheads are thrilled to throw billions of dollars on our amorphous wars on crime, terror, and drugs when common sense dictates that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

So yes ... let's have a discussion ... what spending is wise ... what spending is unwise.

Thanks for the talking points response those are always helpful.

that's all they get off the left wing sites they go to. same ole blaa blaa blaa. we deserve a free education, housing, food, cars, tvs, etc etc etc. and some of you are JUST meanies for not wanting to give it to us. waaaaaaa

 

[candycorn]

What most of us want is for the government to spend our tax dollars in a wise and responsible manner.

The same people who don't want to spend money on education and create good-paying job opportunities for our nation's young people (and future tax payers) are the same ones clamoring for those young people to be thrown in prisons. They don't understand why disadvantaged youth might find it more lucrative to sell drugs or steal crap from your garage or become radicals because they can't make a decent living or support families on minimum wage jobs. Dunderheads are thrilled to throw billions of dollars on our amorphous wars on crime, terror, and drugs when common sense dictates that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

So yes ... let's have a discussion ... what spending is wise ... what spending is unwise.

Thanks for the talking points response those are always helpful.

that's all they get off the left wing sites they go to. same ole blaa blaa blaa. we deserve a free education, housing, food, cars, tvs, etc etc etc. and some of you are JUST meanies for not wanting to give it to us. waaaaaaa

Oh shut the fuck up.
If it were not for welfare, you'd be starving.

 

[Stephanie]

hey, hopefully these citizens keep wanting MORE AND MORE of other people monies BECAUSE the Government always runs out of ENOUGH worker bees and ends up with more LEECHES. In fact I think this is Exactly what Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton is Pushing off for them

They can live in a Socialist paradise like Venezuela

SNIP;
Venezuela orders producers to divert food to state stores

CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) -- Private companies in Venezuela say the government has ordered them to distribute food staples to a network of state-run supermarkets amid chronic shortages of basic goods.

The Food Industry Chamber said Monday that authorities ordered producers of milk, pasta, oil, rice, sugar and flour to supply between 30 percent and 100 percent of their products to the state stores.

all of it here:
The Associated Press