Toddsterpatriot
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How about the problem of dramatic decreases in automobile deaths!
How about increases in CAFE standards killing people?
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Why do conservatives think reducing government would fix our nation's problems?
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How about the problem of dramatic decreases in automobile deaths!
How about increases in CAFE standards killing people?
norwegen
Diamond Member
These are big problems. How is our larger government fixing them?How would reducing government fix our crumbling infrastructure system that ranks one of the worst in the developed world?
How would reducing government lower medical costs such as prescription drug costs?
How would reducing government raise wages in the lower classes and keep all income gains from going to the top earners?
How would reducing government fix our public school system which for decades is one of the worst in the developed world?
How would reducing government keep environmental crises like Flint crisis from happening elsewhere?
How would reducing government stop Wall Street corruption?
Timmy
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Oh that's a fantastic idea. Let's get rid of any oversight on the drugs being produced. Let's let any drug companies put in any ingredients they like and we'll just ignore any harmful side effects.Wrong.How would reducing government fix our crumbling infrastructure system that ranks one of the worst in the developed world? Beyond the economic toll this has on our country, scientists warn that natural disasters could severely cripple our unstable power grid.
How would reducing government lower medical costs such as prescription drug costs?
How would reducing government raise wages in the lower classes and keep all income gains from going to the top earners?
How would reducing government fix our public school which for decades is one of the worst in the developed world?
How would reducing government keep environmental crises like Flint crisis from happening elsewhere?
How would reducing government stop Wall Street corruption?
It's simple: government has caused all our nation's problems that are humanly solvable. Solution: get rid of the problem.
No, it's actually 100% correct. If you look at any of the problems this country has, at bottom the government is the cause. Just take the price of new drugs, for instance. It costs about $5 billion to bring a new drug to market. The FDA is almost entirely the cause of this incomprehensible expense. Get rid of the FDA and the price of developing new drugs would drop to something like $1 million.
It's amazing you don't think these things through.
If drug companies sell dangerous drugs, they get sued for billions of dollars. The FDA is counter productive since it lets them get away with selling drugs that harm people.
How many have to die before a good lawsuit can even be put together ? Do you realize how difficult that is?
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All of the ones that allow some corporations to pay a zero percent effective federal tax rate. That in combination with havens, cost 100 billion per year in revenue.No if we got rid of all the tax loopholes and stopped rich people from taking advantage of cash havens, we would have a lot more revenue to spend.How would reducing government fix our crumbling infrastructure system that ranks one of the worst in the developed world?
How would reducing government lower medical costs such as prescription drug costs?
How would reducing government raise wages in the lower classes and keep all income gains from going to the top earners?
How would reducing government fix our public school system which for decades is one of the worst in the developed world?
How would reducing government keep environmental crises like Flint crisis from happening elsewhere?
How would reducing government stop Wall Street corruption?
How would reducing government fix our crumbling infrastructure system that ranks one of the worst in the developed world?
If we reduced stupid, wasteful government, we'd have money to fix infrastructure.
Which loopholes do we need to get rid of? Be specific.
C_Clayton_Jones
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"Why do conservatives think reducing government would fix our nation's problems?"
Where do conservatives advocate 'reducing government' – all one can find are examples of conservatives seeking to increase the size and authority of government at the expense of individual liberty: most on the right want government to dictate to women whether they may have a child or not, whether gay Americans may marry or not, they want more government to drug test those applying for public assistance and more government interfering with citizens' right to vote.
The notion of 'less government' conservatives is clearly a myth.
Where do conservatives advocate 'reducing government' – all one can find are examples of conservatives seeking to increase the size and authority of government at the expense of individual liberty: most on the right want government to dictate to women whether they may have a child or not, whether gay Americans may marry or not, they want more government to drug test those applying for public assistance and more government interfering with citizens' right to vote.
The notion of 'less government' conservatives is clearly a myth.
Timmy
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Wrong.How would reducing government fix our crumbling infrastructure system that ranks one of the worst in the developed world? Beyond the economic toll this has on our country, scientists warn that natural disasters could severely cripple our unstable power grid.
How would reducing government lower medical costs such as prescription drug costs?
How would reducing government raise wages in the lower classes and keep all income gains from going to the top earners?
How would reducing government fix our public school which for decades is one of the worst in the developed world?
How would reducing government keep environmental crises like Flint crisis from happening elsewhere?
How would reducing government stop Wall Street corruption?
It's simple: government has caused all our nation's problems that are humanly solvable. Solution: get rid of the problem.
No, it's actually 100% correct. If you look at any of the problems this country has, at bottom the government is the cause. Just take the price of new drugs, for instance. It costs about $5 billion to bring a new drug to market. The FDA is almost entirely the cause of this incomprehensible expense. Get rid of the FDA and the price of developing new drugs would drop to something like $1 million.
How about the problem of dramatic decreases in automobile deaths! Curse you gubment and your safety regs !
How about the problem of dramatic decreases in automobile deaths!
How about increases in CAFE standards killing people?
How are they killing people? Other than lowering oil dependence and dropping gas prices .
Wait a minute ?! Cheap gas means more road trips! Meaning more road death!! Damn you CAFE!!
Arianrhod
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Oh that's a fantastic idea. Let's get rid of any oversight on the drugs being produced. Let's let any drug companies put in any ingredients they like and we'll just ignore any harmful side effects.Wrong.How would reducing government fix our crumbling infrastructure system that ranks one of the worst in the developed world? Beyond the economic toll this has on our country, scientists warn that natural disasters could severely cripple our unstable power grid.
How would reducing government lower medical costs such as prescription drug costs?
How would reducing government raise wages in the lower classes and keep all income gains from going to the top earners?
How would reducing government fix our public school which for decades is one of the worst in the developed world?
How would reducing government keep environmental crises like Flint crisis from happening elsewhere?
How would reducing government stop Wall Street corruption?
It's simple: government has caused all our nation's problems that are humanly solvable. Solution: get rid of the problem.
No, it's actually 100% correct. If you look at any of the problems this country has, at bottom the government is the cause. Just take the price of new drugs, for instance. It costs about $5 billion to bring a new drug to market. The FDA is almost entirely the cause of this incomprehensible expense. Get rid of the FDA and the price of developing new drugs would drop to something like $1 million.
It's amazing you don't think these things through.
Oh, come on now. Everyone knows that new drugs don't need to be developed or tested or refined. There's no scientific process involved at all.
Drugs actually grow on trees, and if it wasn't for the Mean Ol' Gubmint, anyone could just drive to the local orchard and pick as many drugs for as many illnesses as they needed.
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Oh right because never mind those cases would take years to build AND without any government oversight, the powerful corporate lawyers could easily argue they didn't break any laws. People could die and become ill well in the meantimeOh that's a fantastic idea. Let's get rid of any oversight on the drugs being produced. Let's let any drug companies put in any ingredients they like and we'll just ignore any harmful side effects.Wrong.How would reducing government fix our crumbling infrastructure system that ranks one of the worst in the developed world? Beyond the economic toll this has on our country, scientists warn that natural disasters could severely cripple our unstable power grid.
How would reducing government lower medical costs such as prescription drug costs?
How would reducing government raise wages in the lower classes and keep all income gains from going to the top earners?
How would reducing government fix our public school which for decades is one of the worst in the developed world?
How would reducing government keep environmental crises like Flint crisis from happening elsewhere?
How would reducing government stop Wall Street corruption?
It's simple: government has caused all our nation's problems that are humanly solvable. Solution: get rid of the problem.
No, it's actually 100% correct. If you look at any of the problems this country has, at bottom the government is the cause. Just take the price of new drugs, for instance. It costs about $5 billion to bring a new drug to market. The FDA is almost entirely the cause of this incomprehensible expense. Get rid of the FDA and the price of developing new drugs would drop to something like $1 million.
It's amazing you don't think these things through.
If drug companies sell dangerous drugs, they get sued for billions of dollars. The FDA is counter productive since it lets them get away with selling drugs that harm people.
bripat9643
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Oh that's a fantastic idea. Let's get rid of any oversight on the drugs being produced. Let's let any drug companies put in any ingredients they like and we'll just ignore any harmful side effects.Wrong.It's simple: government has caused all our nation's problems that are humanly solvable. Solution: get rid of the problem.
No, it's actually 100% correct. If you look at any of the problems this country has, at bottom the government is the cause. Just take the price of new drugs, for instance. It costs about $5 billion to bring a new drug to market. The FDA is almost entirely the cause of this incomprehensible expense. Get rid of the FDA and the price of developing new drugs would drop to something like $1 million.
It's amazing you don't think these things through.
If drug companies sell dangerous drugs, they get sued for billions of dollars. The FDA is counter productive since it lets them get away with selling drugs that harm people.
How many have to die before a good lawsuit can even be put together ? Do you realize how difficult that is?
How many people died from taking phentermine after the FDA approved it? How many people died because of FDA imposed delays in approving life saving drugs?
Toddsterpatriot
Diamond Member
All of the ones that allow some corporations to pay a zero percent effective federal tax rate. That in combination with havens, cost 100 billion per year in revenue.No if we got rid of all the tax loopholes and stopped rich people from taking advantage of cash havens, we would have a lot more revenue to spend.How would reducing government fix our crumbling infrastructure system that ranks one of the worst in the developed world?
How would reducing government lower medical costs such as prescription drug costs?
How would reducing government raise wages in the lower classes and keep all income gains from going to the top earners?
How would reducing government fix our public school system which for decades is one of the worst in the developed world?
How would reducing government keep environmental crises like Flint crisis from happening elsewhere?
How would reducing government stop Wall Street corruption?
How would reducing government fix our crumbling infrastructure system that ranks one of the worst in the developed world?
If we reduced stupid, wasteful government, we'd have money to fix infrastructure.
Which loopholes do we need to get rid of? Be specific.
All of the ones that allow some corporations to pay a zero percent effective federal tax rate.
Yeah, that sounds awful. So be specific. Which ones?
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Lol it's amazing how you people think you can just make things up despite overwhelming evidence of the contrary. Of course there is a scientific process involved.Oh that's a fantastic idea. Let's get rid of any oversight on the drugs being produced. Let's let any drug companies put in any ingredients they like and we'll just ignore any harmful side effects.Wrong.How would reducing government fix our crumbling infrastructure system that ranks one of the worst in the developed world? Beyond the economic toll this has on our country, scientists warn that natural disasters could severely cripple our unstable power grid.
How would reducing government lower medical costs such as prescription drug costs?
How would reducing government raise wages in the lower classes and keep all income gains from going to the top earners?
How would reducing government fix our public school which for decades is one of the worst in the developed world?
How would reducing government keep environmental crises like Flint crisis from happening elsewhere?
How would reducing government stop Wall Street corruption?
It's simple: government has caused all our nation's problems that are humanly solvable. Solution: get rid of the problem.
No, it's actually 100% correct. If you look at any of the problems this country has, at bottom the government is the cause. Just take the price of new drugs, for instance. It costs about $5 billion to bring a new drug to market. The FDA is almost entirely the cause of this incomprehensible expense. Get rid of the FDA and the price of developing new drugs would drop to something like $1 million.
It's amazing you don't think these things through.
Oh, come on now. Everyone knows that new drugs don't need to be developed or tested or refined. There's no scientific process involved at all.
Drugs actually grow on trees, and if it wasn't for the Mean Ol' Gubmint, anyone could just drive to the local orchard and pick as many drugs for as many illnesses as they needed.
Toddsterpatriot
Diamond Member
Wrong.It's simple: government has caused all our nation's problems that are humanly solvable. Solution: get rid of the problem.
No, it's actually 100% correct. If you look at any of the problems this country has, at bottom the government is the cause. Just take the price of new drugs, for instance. It costs about $5 billion to bring a new drug to market. The FDA is almost entirely the cause of this incomprehensible expense. Get rid of the FDA and the price of developing new drugs would drop to something like $1 million.
How about the problem of dramatic decreases in automobile deaths! Curse you gubment and your safety regs !
How about the problem of dramatic decreases in automobile deaths!
How about increases in CAFE standards killing people?
How are they killing people? Other than lowering oil dependence and dropping gas prices .
Wait a minute ?! Cheap gas means more road trips! Meaning more road death!! Damn you CAFE!!
How are they killing people?
How do they increase MPG? Give me the top 5 ways you think.
bripat9643
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Oh right because never mind those cases would take years to build AND without any government oversight, the powerful corporate lawyers could easily argue they didn't break any laws. People could die and become ill well in the meantimeOh that's a fantastic idea. Let's get rid of any oversight on the drugs being produced. Let's let any drug companies put in any ingredients they like and we'll just ignore any harmful side effects.Wrong.It's simple: government has caused all our nation's problems that are humanly solvable. Solution: get rid of the problem.
No, it's actually 100% correct. If you look at any of the problems this country has, at bottom the government is the cause. Just take the price of new drugs, for instance. It costs about $5 billion to bring a new drug to market. The FDA is almost entirely the cause of this incomprehensible expense. Get rid of the FDA and the price of developing new drugs would drop to something like $1 million.
It's amazing you don't think these things through.
If drug companies sell dangerous drugs, they get sued for billions of dollars. The FDA is counter productive since it lets them get away with selling drugs that harm people.
Whether they broke any laws isn't the issue. If they lose their case they are going to lose billions of dollars. The minute a lawsuit is filed they are going to know they may be in big trouble. If they suspect one of their drugs is going to produce thousands of multi-million dollar lawsuits, they will undoubtedly stop sales and do additional testing to make sure the drug is indeed safe.
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Arianrhod
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Lol it's amazing how you people think you can just make things up despite overwhelming evidence of the contrary. Of course there is a scientific process involved.Oh that's a fantastic idea. Let's get rid of any oversight on the drugs being produced. Let's let any drug companies put in any ingredients they like and we'll just ignore any harmful side effects.Wrong.It's simple: government has caused all our nation's problems that are humanly solvable. Solution: get rid of the problem.
No, it's actually 100% correct. If you look at any of the problems this country has, at bottom the government is the cause. Just take the price of new drugs, for instance. It costs about $5 billion to bring a new drug to market. The FDA is almost entirely the cause of this incomprehensible expense. Get rid of the FDA and the price of developing new drugs would drop to something like $1 million.
It's amazing you don't think these things through.
Oh, come on now. Everyone knows that new drugs don't need to be developed or tested or refined. There's no scientific process involved at all.
Drugs actually grow on trees, and if it wasn't for the Mean Ol' Gubmint, anyone could just drive to the local orchard and pick as many drugs for as many illnesses as they needed.
I'm not "you people." I'm describing the "thought process" that goes behind the "medications don't need regulation" mindset. That post was pure sarcasm.
RandallFlagg
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How would reducing government fix our crumbling infrastructure system that ranks one of the worst in the developed world?
How would reducing government lower medical costs such as prescription drug costs?
How would reducing government raise wages in the lower classes and keep all income gains from going to the top earners?
How would reducing government fix our public school system which for decades is one of the worst in the developed world?
How would reducing government keep environmental crises like Flint crisis from happening elsewhere?
How would reducing government stop Wall Street corruption?
And how does increasing the size of this monstrosity help anyone but the assholes that suck at the tit of government?
bripat9643
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Libs keep repeating the same 2-3 examples over and over again. Meanwhile there are hundreds of thousands of liberal regulations and hundreds of government agencies that restrict your freedom. Libs think there is some kind of equivalence between these two things."Why do conservatives think reducing government would fix our nation's problems?"
Where do conservatives advocate 'reducing government' – all one can find are examples of conservatives seeking to increase the size and authority of government at the expense of individual liberty: most on the right want government to dictate to women whether they may have a child or not, whether gay Americans may marry or not, they want more government to drug test those applying for public assistance and more government interfering with citizens' right to vote.
The notion of 'less government' conservatives is clearly a myth.
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Why would it matter to you that I single them out? I wont do that because the facts already state tax loopholes as a collective inhibit revenue. i know you think you are tripping me up by refusal to single them out, but we both know it doesn't matter since I can easily provide proof of their collective effect.All of the ones that allow some corporations to pay a zero percent effective federal tax rate. That in combination with havens, cost 100 billion per year in revenue.No if we got rid of all the tax loopholes and stopped rich people from taking advantage of cash havens, we would have a lot more revenue to spend.How would reducing government fix our crumbling infrastructure system that ranks one of the worst in the developed world?
How would reducing government lower medical costs such as prescription drug costs?
How would reducing government raise wages in the lower classes and keep all income gains from going to the top earners?
How would reducing government fix our public school system which for decades is one of the worst in the developed world?
How would reducing government keep environmental crises like Flint crisis from happening elsewhere?
How would reducing government stop Wall Street corruption?
How would reducing government fix our crumbling infrastructure system that ranks one of the worst in the developed world?
If we reduced stupid, wasteful government, we'd have money to fix infrastructure.
Which loopholes do we need to get rid of? Be specific.
All of the ones that allow some corporations to pay a zero percent effective federal tax rate.
Yeah, that sounds awful. So be specific. Which ones?
bripat9643
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Oh that's a fantastic idea. Let's get rid of any oversight on the drugs being produced. Let's let any drug companies put in any ingredients they like and we'll just ignore any harmful side effects.Wrong.How would reducing government fix our crumbling infrastructure system that ranks one of the worst in the developed world? Beyond the economic toll this has on our country, scientists warn that natural disasters could severely cripple our unstable power grid.
How would reducing government lower medical costs such as prescription drug costs?
How would reducing government raise wages in the lower classes and keep all income gains from going to the top earners?
How would reducing government fix our public school which for decades is one of the worst in the developed world?
How would reducing government keep environmental crises like Flint crisis from happening elsewhere?
How would reducing government stop Wall Street corruption?
It's simple: government has caused all our nation's problems that are humanly solvable. Solution: get rid of the problem.
No, it's actually 100% correct. If you look at any of the problems this country has, at bottom the government is the cause. Just take the price of new drugs, for instance. It costs about $5 billion to bring a new drug to market. The FDA is almost entirely the cause of this incomprehensible expense. Get rid of the FDA and the price of developing new drugs would drop to something like $1 million.
It's amazing you don't think these things through.
Oh, come on now. Everyone knows that new drugs don't need to be developed or tested or refined. There's no scientific process involved at all.
Drugs actually grow on trees, and if it wasn't for the Mean Ol' Gubmint, anyone could just drive to the local orchard and pick as many drugs for as many illnesses as they needed.
Only a leftwing idiot like you believes corporations think killing their customers is a good way to make money. Do you really think a multi billion dollar corporation will put a product on the market unless they are dead certain it won't harm people?
Rozman
Gold Member
And there we have it folks....
We have problems because.....
Government isn't big enough.
Government doesn't tax enough
Government doesn't spend nearly enough.
These big government people never want to address better ways to spend taxpayer $$$
Their answer to everything is tax and spend.
And if that's not working...
Tax more and spend even more.
We have problems because.....
Government isn't big enough.
Government doesn't tax enough
Government doesn't spend nearly enough.
These big government people never want to address better ways to spend taxpayer $$$
Their answer to everything is tax and spend.
And if that's not working...
Tax more and spend even more.
bripat9643
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Wrong.It's simple: government has caused all our nation's problems that are humanly solvable. Solution: get rid of the problem.
No, it's actually 100% correct. If you look at any of the problems this country has, at bottom the government is the cause. Just take the price of new drugs, for instance. It costs about $5 billion to bring a new drug to market. The FDA is almost entirely the cause of this incomprehensible expense. Get rid of the FDA and the price of developing new drugs would drop to something like $1 million.
How about the problem of dramatic decreases in automobile deaths! Curse you gubment and your safety regs !
How about the problem of dramatic decreases in automobile deaths!
How about increases in CAFE standards killing people?
How are they killing people? Other than lowering oil dependence and dropping gas prices .
Wait a minute ?! Cheap gas means more road trips! Meaning more road death!! Damn you CAFE!!
One way manufacturers meet CAFE standards is to reduce the weight of their cars. Lighter cars mean less crash worthy cars which translates into more highway deaths.
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