Why do Democrats Trivialize The Threat From Radical Islam

[Sunni Man]

According to World Religions Religion Statistics Geography Church Statistics

There are 2.1 billion Christians in the world.

That's interesting. Didn't know that. How do you think Christians would feel about someone here saying that their religion needs to be eradicated?

I here people saying all of the time, "where are the moderate Muslims?"

Believe me they are trying to speak out and present their case.

But their voices are drowned out by all of the anti-Islamic hysteria.

 

[AllieBaba]

So not only is it the fault of the infidels when you guys kill innocents, it's also our fault when you don't speak out against your own crazies?

 

[BlindBoo]

I keep saying...allow the religion, you have to.

Of course we have to allow the religion.

We allow Nazism. No one has been arrested for being a Nazi, no one will be.

What we don't do is TOLERATE Nazism. If you are Nazi, you are a pariah - as well you should be. We don't hand wring about "Good Nazis" and "Moderate Nazis." Nazism is a creed of evil, those who follow it are scum.

What we should not do is TOLERATE Islam. You want to follow a creed of evil? You have that right, but those who embrace evil should be shunned by those who do not.

Words have meaning.

The Muslim's official creed of Islam

 

[BlindBoo]

Why, you just deny the answer and denigrate anyone posting that they don't trivialize the threat from radical Islam.

I'm trying to get to the bottom of why you on the left defend and promote a hate group.

BTW, you never really posted any quotes fomr Democrats trivializing the threat posed by Islamic Radicals have you?

Ah, the old "prove water is wet" ploy.

Yeah, that'll work...

I understand, you simply don't have anything to back up your specious and jingoistic reasoning.

 

[logical4u]

One thing: "Washington (a place we think you trust too much) ", if this is so, why do lefties want to give those bureaucrats control over our personal lives by handing control of healthcare (amongst other things) to the same untrustworthy government?

I think the post 60's Left trusts government too much to solve domestic social problems, whereas the post 60's Right trusts government too much to solve foreign "problems" militarily. [FYI: these are imperfect generalizations because the Left/Right distinction has been muddied by a one-party corporate state where special interests dictate policy]

The only argument for government intervention in health care is if the current "free market" version is itself a government rigged anti-competitive system which benefits a small group of owners and share holders at the expense of consumers, i.e., this is not a Leftist argument about making a more perfect world where people are insulated from harm and bad decision; this is an argument about market distortions that have been built into the system by 30 years of intensive lobbying.

The only reason for government to intervene militarily is if a genuine interest is verifiable at stake.

The problem with my framework is that the public doesn't know if health care has been captured by corporate special interests, or if Saddam had WMDs - and whether or not things are dire enough to make government intervention the lesser of two evils. We don't know these things because government, media, and corporations have merged (i.e., they are owned and controlled by the same interests. That's what capital does: it buys and controls everything that affects profit. It is the greatest, most invisible central planner ever invented. The point of funding elections, the point of lobbying... is to use extra-market controls to concentrate power. This is the paradox of free market capitalism: the market winners accumulate enough capital to consolidate control over government and media, so they can insulate themselves from oversight, competition, and populist revolt, which depends on independent media). We can't even imagine that our trusted information sources have been captured by the same corporate interests which run government. It's always the otherwise which is deluded or corrupt. We're doomed.

Yeah. Capitalism without morals is evil. Those that worked to wipe all reference to G*d (integrity) from our system have been successful. Now what? Take a serious look at the other forms of governence: communism, socialism, dictator, Sharia, do you see a better way? BTW, all those other forms of government believe in capitalism, but just for those in power, the rest of the population is forced to live in poverty and misery. There is a song that "you have got to stand for something or you will fall for anything", that appears to be where the lefties are located: falling for everything. By eliminating G*d from public discourse, there was a giant vacuum; that has been filled by lobbyists and corporate interests (dictators). And the left wonders why the right has such a problem with keeping the Lord out of public conversation.

 

[bodecea]

The big jump in "hate crimes" was reported by CAIR. Wow, I'm sure to believe their numbers.

Your sources are crap and essentially meaningless. "Reports of" is not specific nor trustworthy.

And I don't see a single incidence there of Muslims being kidnapped, tortured, and beheaded. Do you? Planes being hijacked? Women being stoned?

No?

So where's the comparison?

This link: Rise in hate crimes worries Arab-Americans / The Christian Science Monitor - CSMonitor.com is from 2003 and deals with suppositions and anticipations, and also uses information from CAIR. But it's all about their fears and vague references to hate mail. Nothing specific, and no actual incidents reported.

So, you denied that any of those things happened? Yes or no.

I asked you a question, answer it. Do you think these are comparable or as routine as the abduction and murder of innocents committed by Islam?

I'm not seeing a Yes or No answer from you, Allie? I thought you existed in a black and white world with no shades of gray.

Yes or no...do you deny any of those things happened?

 

[logical4u]

Arabs are also Semites.

What makes a Jewish Semite's life worth more than an Arabs'?

The problem is muslims don't even value the lives of their own children

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9eeU9bdGEg]YouTube - shahid mother[/ame]

Another Problem.

Jews value the lives of Arab children even less.

"Israel Defense Forces trains snipers to kill, but who are they trained to target? Many of us had military training at one time or another and the thought of killing a human is something soldiers must be prepared for. But based on the result, something about Israel’s sniper training must be very different, for the thought of killing a woman, much less a child, never entered the mind of any soldier I have ever known.

"These graduates of IDF sniper school came out wearing t-shirts that promoted killing children, women, and especially graphically about killing pregnant women. (Note 1)

"Israel has played the 'self defense' card since 1948. It no longer works. The t-shirt orders were approved by officers, or at least by Platoon Sergeants, according to Haaretz. That means the commanders also had to know."

Killing pregnant women?
Even Moses might have had second thoughts about that one.

Jew Israel Donkey Force (IDF) celebrates killing innocent Palestinian pregnent women and young children in T-shirts – Israel

Maybe they are trying to "save" them from becoming penis receptacles for their brothers (if they are girls) or other men if they are boys (as dancing boys).

 

[logical4u]

Senate to Hold Hearings on “Anti-Muslim Bigotry

On a day when Islamic jihadists exploded a bomb in Jerusalem that murdered at least one woman and wounded thirty, and when Islamic jihadists opened fire on and killed two Christians outside a church in Pakistan, Senator Richard Durbin (D-IL) announced that he was going to hold hearings on the rise in “anti-Muslim bigotry.”

Durbin, of course, was retaliating for the hearings recently conducted by Rep. Peter King (R-NY), who himself bowed to politically correct pressure and dropped several witnesses that he had originally announced his intention to call, including ex-Muslim human rights activist Ayaan Hirsi Ali and terror analyst Walid Phares .....

Never let our conservative "friends" be accused of presenting a balanced argument!

1. There are currently 1.6 billion Moslems in the world - approximately 25% of the world's population.

According to wikipedia: Christian population is over 32% of the world's population
Catholicism - 1.2 billion
Catholic Church - 1,165.7 million[1]
Latin Church - 1,149.6 million
Eastern Catholic Churches - 16.1 million
Alexandrian Rite
Ethiopian Catholic Church - 0.2 million[2]
Coptic Catholic Church - 0.2 million[2]
Antiochene Rite
Maronite Catholic Church - 3.1 million[2]
Syro-Malankara Catholic Church - 0.4 million[2]
Syriac Catholic Church - 0.1 million[2]
Armenian Rite
Armenian Catholic Church - 0.4 million[2]
Chaldean
Syro-Malabar Catholic Church - 3.8 million[2]
Chaldean Catholic Church - 0.4 million[2]
Byzantine Rite
Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church - 4.3 million[2]
Melkite Greek Catholic Church - 1.3 million[2]
Romanian Catholic Church - 0.7 million[2]
Ruthenian Catholic Church - 0.5 million[2]
Hungarian Greek Catholic Church - 0.3 million[2]
Slovak Greek Catholic Church - 0.2 million[2]
Italo-Albanian Catholic Church - 0.1 million[2]
Belarusian Greek Catholic Church - 0.1 million[2]
Georgian Byzantine Catholic Church - 0.01 million[3]
Albanian Byzantine Catholic Church - 0.01 million[2]
Bulgarian Greek Catholic Church - 0.01 million[2]
Croatian Greek Catholic Church - 0.01 million[2]
Greek Byzantine Catholic Church - 0.01 million[2]
Macedonian Greek Catholic Church - 0.01 million[2]
Russian Catholic Church - 0.01 million[2]
Breakaway Catholic Churches - 25 million
Apostolic Catholic Church - 8 million[4]
Philippine Independent Church - 6 million[5]
Chinese Patriotic Catholic Association - 5 million[6]
Brazilian Catholic Apostolic Church - 5 million[7]
Old Catholic Church - 0.6 million
Society of St. Pius X - 0.5 million
Protestantism - 670 million
Historical Protestantism - 350 million
Baptist churches - 105 million[8]
Southern Baptist Convention - 16.3 million[9]
National Baptist Convention, USA, Inc. - 7.5 million[10]
National Baptist Convention of America, Inc. - 5 million[11]
Nigerian Baptist Convention - 3 million[12]
Progressive National Baptist Convention - 2.5 million[13]
American Baptist Churches USA - 1.4 million[14]
Brazilian Baptist Convention - 1.4 million
Baptist Bible Fellowship International - 1.2 million[15]
Myanmar Baptist Convention - 1.1 million[16]
Baptist Community of the Congo River - 1 million[16]
National Baptist Convention, Brazil - 1 million
National Primitive Baptist Convention of the U.S.A. - 1 million[15]
National Missionary Baptist Convention of America - 1 million
Samavesam of Telugu Baptist Churches - 0.8 million[17]
Baptist Convention of Kenya - 0.7 million[16]
Myanmar Baptist Convention – 0.7 million[18]
Union of Evangelical Christians-Baptists of Russia – 0.6 million
Council of Baptist Churches in Northeast India – 0.6 million[19]
Church of Christ in Congo – 0.4 million[20]
American Baptist Association - 0.3 million[21]
Baptist Missionary Association of America - 0.2 million[22]
Conservative Baptist Association of America - 0.2 million[23]
National Association of Free Will Baptists - 0.2 million[24]
Methodism - 75 million
United Methodist Church - 12 million
African Methodist Episcopal Church - 3 million
Methodist Church Nigeria - 2 million[25]
African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church - 1.5 million
Church of the Nazarene - 1.9 million
Methodist Church of Southern Africa - 1.7 million[26]
Korean Methodist Church - 1.5 million[27]
United Methodist Church of Ivory Coast – 1 million[28]
Christian Methodist Episcopal Church - 0.9 million
Methodist Church Ghana - 0.8 million[29]
Free Methodist Church - 0.7 million
Methodist Church in India - 0.6 million[30]
Lutheranism - 87 million[31]
Evangelical Church in Germany - 26.9 million[32]
Church of Sweden - 6.7 million
Evangelical Lutheran Church in America - 4.8 million
Ethiopian Evangelical Church Mekane Yesus - 4.7 million
Evangelical Lutheran Church in Tanzania - 4.6 million[33]
Danish National Church - 4.5 million
Evangelical Lutheran Church of Finland - 4.3 million[34]
Batak Christian Protestant Church - 4 million[35]
Church of Norway - 3.9 million
Malagasy Lutheran Church - 3 million
Lutheran Church–Missouri Synod - 2.4 million
The Lutheran Church of Christ in Nigeria - 1.7 million[36]
United Evangelical Lutheran Church in India - 1.5 million[37]
Evangelical Lutheran Church in Papua New Guinea - 0.9 million[38]
Andhra Evangelical Lutheran Church - 0.8 million[39]
Evangelical Church of the Lutheran Confession in Brazil - 0.7 million[40]
Evangelical Lutheran Church in Namibia - 0.6 million[41]
Evangelical Lutheran Church in Southern Africa - 0.6 million[42]
Reformed churches - 75 million
Presbyterianism - 40 million
Presbyterian Church of East Africa - 4 million[43]
Presbyterian Church of Africa - 3.4 million[44]
Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) - 3.0 million
United Church of Canada - 2.5 million
Church of Christ in Congo–Presbyterian Community of Congo - 2.5 million[45]
Presbyterian Church of Korea - 2.4 million[46]
Presbyterian Church of Cameroon - 1.8 million[47]
Church of Scotland - 1.1 million[48]
Presbyterian Church of the Sudan - 1 million[49]
Presbyterian Church in Cameroon - 0.7 million[50]
Presbyterian Church of Brazil - 0,7 million [51]
Presbyterian Church of Ghana - 0.6 million[52]
Presbyterian Church of Nigeria - 0.5 million[53]
Uniting Presbyterian Church in Southern Africa - 0.5 million[54]
Presbyterian Church in America - 0.3 million
Continental Reformed churches - 30 million
Church of Jesus Christ in Madagascar - 3.5 million[55]
United Church of Zambia - 3.0 million[56]
Protestant Church in the Netherlands - 2.5 million[57]
Swiss Reformed Church - 2.4 million
Evangelical Church of Cameroon - 2 million[58]
Protestant Evangelical Church in Timor - 2 million[59]
Christian Evangelical Church in Minahasa - 0.7 million[60]
United Church in Papua New Guinea - 0.6 million[61]
United Church of Christ in the Philippines - 0.6 million[62]
Protestant Church in Western Indonesia - 0.6 million[63]
Evangelical Christian Church in Tanah Papua - 0.6 million[64]
Protestant Church in the Moluccas - 0.6 million[65]
Reformed Church in Hungary - 0.6 million[66]
Reformed Church in Romania - 0.6 million[67]
Uniting Reformed Church in Southern Africa - 0.5 million[68]
Congregationalism - 5 million
United Church of Christ - 1.2 million
Evangelical Congregational Church in Angola - 0.9 million[69]
United Congregational Church of Southern Africa - 0.5 million[70]
Anabaptism and Free churches - 5 million
Schwarzenau Brethren/German Baptist groups - 1.5 million[71]
Mennonites - 1.5 million
Plymouth Brethren - 1 million[72]
Moravians - 0.7 million[73]
Amish - 0.2 million
Hutterites - 0.2 million
Quakers - 0.4 million
Waldensians - 0.05 million
Modern Protestantism - 274 million[citation needed]
Pentecostalism - 130 million
Assemblies of God - 60 million
International Circle of Faith - 11 million[74]
The Pentecostal Mission - 10 million
Church of God (Cleveland) - 9 million
International Church of the Foursquare Gospel - 8 million
Apostolic Church - 6 million
Church of God in Christ - 6.5 million[75]
Apostolic Church - 5.5 million
United Pentecostal Church International - 4 million
Christian Congregation of Brazil - 2.5 million
Universal Church of the Kingdom of God - 2 million
Church of God of Prophecy - 1 million
God is Love Pentecostal Church - 0.8 million
Non-denominational evangelicalism - 80 million
Calvary Chapel - 25 million
Born Again Movement - 20 million
Association of Vineyard Churches - 15 million
Christian and Missionary Alliance - 4 million[76]
New Life Fellowship - 10 million[citation needed]
True Jesus Church - 2.5 million
African initiated churches - 40 million
Zion Christian Church - 15 million
Eternal Sacred Order of Cherubim and Seraphim - 10 million
Kimbanguist Church - 5.5 million
Church of the Lord (Aladura) - 3.6 million[77]
Council of African Instituted Churches - 3 million[78]
Church of Christ Light of the Holy Spirit - 1.4 million[79]
African Church of the Holy Spirit - 0.7 million[80]
African Israel Church Nineveh[81]
Seventh-day Adventist Church - 17 million
Restoration Movement - 7 million
Churches of Christ - 5 million
Christian Churches and Churches of Christ - 1.1 million[15]
Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) - 0.7 million[82]
Oneness Pentecostalism - 6 million
United Pentecostal Church International - 4 million
Pentecostal Assemblies of the World - 1.5 million
Eastern Orthodoxy - 230 million
Autocephalous churches
Russian Orthodox Church - 125 million
Romanian Orthodox Church - 18 million
Serbian Orthodox Church - 15 million
Church of Greece - 11 million
Bulgarian Orthodox Church - 10 million
Georgian Orthodox Church - 5 million
Greek Orthodox Church of Constantinople - 3.5 million
Greek Orthodox Church of Antioch - 2.5 million
Greek Orthodox Church of Alexandria - 1.5 million
Orthodox Church in America - 1.2 million
Polish Orthodox Church - 1 million
Albanian Orthodox Church - 0.8 million
Cypriot Orthodox Church - 0.7 million
Greek Orthodox Church of Jerusalem - 0.14 million
Czech and Slovak Orthodox Church - 0.07 million
Autonomous churches
Ukrainian Orthodox Church (Moscow Patriarchate) - 7.2 million[83]
Moldovan Orthodox Church - 3.2 million
Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia - 1.25 million
Metropolitan Church of Bessarabia - 0.62 million
Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric - 0.34 million
Estonian Orthodox Church - 0.3 million
Patriarchal Exarchate in Western Europe - 0.15 million
Finnish Orthodox Church - 0.08 million
Chinese Orthodox Church - 0.03 million
Japanese Orthodox Church - 0.02 million
Latvian Orthodox Church - 0.02 million
Non-universally recognized churches
Ukrainian Orthodox Church (Kyiv Patriarchate) - 5.5 million[83]
Ukrainian Autocephalous Orthodox Church - 3.8 million
Belarusian Autocephalous Orthodox Church - 2.4 million
Macedonian Orthodox Church - 2 million
Orthodox Church of Greece (Holy Synod in Resistance) - 0.75 million
Old Calendar Romanian Orthodox Church - 0.50 million
Old Calendar Bulgarian Orthodox Church - 0.45 million
Croatian Orthodox Church - 0.36 million
Orthodox Church in Italy - 0.12 million
Montenegrin Orthodox Church - 0.05 million
Other separated Orthodox groups
Old Believers - 5.5 million
Greek Old Calendarists - 0.86 million
Russian True Orthodox Church - 0.85 million
Oriental Orthodoxy - 82 million
Autocephalous churches in communion
Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church - 48 million
Coptic Orthodox Church of Alexandria - 15.5 million
Armenian Orthodox Church - 8 million
Eritrean Orthodox Tewahedo Church - 2.5 million
Indian (Malankara) Orthodox Church - 2 million[84]
Armenian Orthodox Church of Cilicia - 1.5 million
Syriac Orthodox Church - 1.05 million
Autonomous churches in communion
Jacobite Syrian Orthodox Church - 1.2 million[85]
Armenian Patriarchate of Constantinople - 0.42 million
Armenian Patriarchate of Jerusalem - 0.34 million
French Coptic Orthodox Church - 0.01 million
British Orthodox Church - 0.01 million
Churches not in communion
Malankara Mar Thoma Syrian Church - 1.1 million
Malabar Independent Syrian Church - 0.06 million
Anglicanism - 80 million
Anglican Communion - 80 million[86]
Church of Nigeria - 18 million
Church of England - 13.4 million
Church of Uganda - 8.8 million
Church of South India - 3.8 million
Anglican Church of Australia - 3.7 million
Episcopal Church in the Philippines - 3.0 million
Anglican Church in Aotearoa, New Zealand and Polynesia - 0.5 million
Anglican Church of Tanzania - 2.5 million
Anglican Church of Southern Africa - 2.4 million
Episcopal Church of the United States - 2.2 million
Anglican Church of Canada - 2.0 million
Anglican Church of Kenya - 1.5 million
Church of North India - 1.3 million
Church of the Province of Rwanda - 1 million
Church of Pakistan - 0.8 million
Anglican Church of Burundi - 0.8 million[87]
Church of the Province of Central Africa - 0.6 million
Church of Christ in Congo–Anglican Community of Congo - 0.5 million[88]
Scottish Episcopal Church - 0.4 million
Church of Ireland - 0.4 million
Continuing Anglican movement - 1.5 million
Traditional Anglican Communion - 0.5 million
Anglican Church in North America - 0.1 million
Restorationism - 40 million
Latter Day Saint movement (Mormonism) - 14.5 million
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints - 14.1 million[89]
Community of Christ - 0.2 million[90]
New Apostolic Church - 11 million
Iglesia ni Cristo - 6 million[91]
Jehovah's Witnesses - 7.3 million [92][93]
Church of Christ, Scientist - 0.4 million
Friends of Man - 0.07 million
Christadelphians - 0.06 million
Unitarian Universalism - 0.6 million[94]
Unitarian Universalist Association - 0.2 million[95]
Nestorianism - 0.6 million
Assyrian Church of the East - 0.5 million
Ancient Church of the East - 0.1 million

Why do the same people that have no problem with muslims (for lefties, that is not ALL muslims) murdering Christians all over the world (among other religions), have a problem with "Christians" pointing out the fact that it is muslims (not ALL) are murdering "non-believers"?
?
?
?

 

[logical4u]

Are you really going to continue making shite up and trying to attribute it to others when they never said anything of the kind???????????

Look at all of those haters of mosques in this country and the arguments that they make for your evidence of the harassment and undermining.

"Look at all of those haters of mosques in this country" is your example of "witch hunts"? How sad that you distort the 'position of the location OF ONE MOSQUE' as the hatred of all mosques. Please provide the evidence (links) of "hatred and harrassment" of muslims in this country. Please provide the evidence (links) that cleared all of those muslims that have been tried (in this country) for terrorist activities (in this country).
BTW, accusing me of any hatreds, bigotry, (and don't forget the big RACIST charge), does not change the facts.

What to Make of Anti-Muslim Hate Crimes - Newsweek

Big Jump in Hate Crimes Against Muslims Documented - NAM

Rise in hate crimes worries Arab-Americans / The Christian Science Monitor - CSMonitor.com

Civil Rights Division Post 9-11 Enforcement and Outreach

Ground Zero Mosque Opponents, Supporters Turn Out to Demonstrate - ABC News

Arsonists burn Tennessee mosque to the ground as anti-Muslim backlash over Ground Zero mosque grows in U.S | Mail Online


Just some stuff I found....btw....Tennessee is not NYC and NYC is not Tennessee.

Pew Forum: Report: Religion-based hate crimes highest since 2001

"November 23, 2009
Report: Religion-based hate crimes highest since 2001
by Matthew E. Berger
Religion News Service

WASHINGTON (RNS) Hate crime incidents targeting people based on their religion were at their highest frequency last year since 2001, according to a new report. The report, compiled by the Anti-Defamation League from FBI data, found 1,519 religious hate crimes in 2008, accounting for about 20 percent of all bias crimes. It was an increase from 2007, when 1,400 crimes of religious bias were reported. The number of crimes targeting Jews or Jewish institutions also increased in 2008. There were 1,013 hate crimes against Jews last year, accounting for about two-thirds of all religious bias crimes. It was the largest number of crimes against Jews since 2001. Overall, hate crimes rose slightly in 2008, with participating agencies reporting 7,783 bias crimes. Racial bias accounted for about half of all those reported, with attacks aimed at ethnicity and sexual orientation accounting for much of the balance. Attacks against Muslims dropped slightly last year, to 105 reports. The numbers spiked in 2001, in the aftermath of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. That year, 597 attacks against Muslims were reported, bringing the number of overall bias crimes up past 9,000 incidents. ADL officials said an increase in agencies participating in the survey could account for part of the increase last year. But they said the spike remains a concern nonetheless."

It looks like hate crimes against Jews were ten times as great as hate crimes agains muslims.

 

[logical4u]

Aren't the terrorists honored in islamic society? Aren't they celebrated as "martyrs"? Aren't their families held in honor for the acts (terrorist acts)? Aren't civil works and buildings named for them? It would appear that "islam" supports terrorism, and that having a "terrorist" in the family is a mark of "status".
Just for lefties (I did not say that all muslims were "involved" in terrorism or that all muslims were terrorists).

That's because they are viewed as Freedom Fighters in the Islamic world.

And not as so called terrorist like the West claims.

I think that was the point of that post: Southerns "accepted" slavery as part of life. If they owned slaves or not. When the "south" was beat in the civil war, it was punished (supposedly for the evil perpetuated, but moreso for money), and those that did not own slaves suffered, alongside those that did own slaves. It was a comparison of the two types of "oppression". One was punished long ago, one will be punished at some point in the future (by man or by the Lord).

 

[BlindBoo]

I ever really understood these miserable people like Georgie boy the blame America first crowd. The World would be so much better if it were not for America skewing everything up All the muslims would be at peace if it weren't for us right? These people are delusional.

I'll never understand the miserable people like you, who demonize their fellow citizens because they feel that our foriegn policy may have been a factor in motivating the Muslims into violent and deadly actions.

Belief that America's foriegn policy is a motivating factor among Arab terrorist = Blame America First.

 

[AllieBaba]

Why, you just deny the answer and denigrate anyone posting that they don't trivialize the threat from radical Islam.

I'm trying to get to the bottom of why you on the left defend and promote a hate group.

BTW, you never really posted any quotes fomr Democrats trivializing the threat posed by Islamic Radicals have you?

Ah, the old "prove water is wet" ploy.

Yeah, that'll work...

I understand, you simply don't have anything to back up your specious and jingoistic reasoning.

bullshit. It's more "why respond to a question that is duplicitous and a waste of time?"

This thread alone is full of people minimizing Islam's use of terrorism. From Bod posting silliness about how *horrible* the us is, to truthseeker's and GP's harping about how Islam is *forced* into acts of terror and apparently *confused* into not speaking out against those acts of terror by the big bad Infidels.

There's no point in arguing a point that has already been made, in other words. So take your dishonest crap and shove it back up your ass.

 

[beowolfe]

Senate to Hold Hearings on “Anti-Muslim Bigotry

Senate to Hold Hearings on “Anti-Muslim Bigotry”




On a day when Islamic jihadists exploded a bomb in Jerusalem that murdered at least one woman and wounded thirty, and when Islamic jihadists opened fire on and killed two Christians outside a church in Pakistan, Senator Richard Durbin (D-IL) announced that he was going to hold hearings on the rise in “anti-Muslim bigotry.”

Durbin, of course, was retaliating for the hearings recently conducted by Rep. Peter King (R-NY), who himself bowed to politically correct pressure and dropped several witnesses that he had originally announced his intention to call, including ex-Muslim human rights activist Ayaan Hirsi Ali and terror analyst Walid Phares.

Not only was the timing of Durbin’s announcement ironic, but also the fact that his retaliatory hearings were unnecessary in the first place. King, after all, gave a prime platform at his hearings to the weepy Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN), whose pilgrimage to Mecca was paid for with $13,350 from the Muslim American Society, the Muslim Brotherhood ‘s chief operating arm in the U.S.

Ellison used the bully pulpit King gave him to paint a lurid picture of Muslim victimhood, all the while saying nothing (of course) about the sharp increase in jihad terror plots in this country over the last two years. How can Durbin top that?

Senate to Hold Hearings on

Just because some people don't run around screaming like Chicken Little about radical Islam doesn't mean they trivalize it. They are just taking a much more rational approach than you Chicken Little types. Besides, everything I've heard from the Chicken Little lobby would only make the problem worse.

 

[Uncensored2008]

And Muslims are the only ones?

Do you approve of Nazism? Is it the "fascism of peace?"

 

[Uncensored2008]

Your words are very cheap....as is your integrity.

You have no integrity, you have your shameful party and say ANYTHING to promote it.

PROVE that I support terrorists.

This entire thread proves that.

 

[BlindBoo]

Not all southerners were slave owners, but southern society as a whole allowed the practice of keeping slaves, not only to exist, but to prosper. As a result, southern society as a whole felt the wrath of reconstruction for it's failure to reign in those that couldn't see the wrong in one person owning another. In my opinion you're dealing with a parallel in Islam. The Islamic society as a group allows the terroristic and barbaric elements of it's religion to thrive and as such is responsible for it's atrocities.

25% of Southerns owned slaves and it was considered a mark of wealth and status.

Less that 1% of Muslims are terrorists/radicals. Is it considered a mark of wealth and status?

Are you TRUELY comparing Southerners with slaves to Islamic terrorists?

Aren't the terrorists honored in islamic society? Aren't they celebrated as "martyrs"? Aren't their families held in honor for the acts (terrorist acts)? Aren't civil works and buildings named for them? It would appear that "islam" supports terrorism, and that having a "terrorist" in the family is a mark of "status".
Just for lefties (I did not say that all muslims were "involved" in terrorism or that all muslims were terrorists).

Fundamentalisms in various religions explain reality by blaming social problems on the departure from religious morality and promise redemption via a return to an idealized community. In face of decline, colonization, and economic stagnation, ressentiment of the West became widespread in Islam. Fundamentalisms interacting with ressentiment may turn militant, as in the case of Al Qaeda. A war on terrorism is not likely to end terrorism. To solve the problem of terrorism requires addressing its roots: internal constraints, dictatorships sponsored by the West and the underdevelopment that results form neo-liberal globalization. We suggest terrorism will wane in the face of the evolution of modern Islamic public spheres that might challenge religious conservatism.

http://irows.ucr.edu/conferences/pews02/pprlangman.doc

 

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Your talk is incredibly cheap, as is your so-called integrity.

You have no integrity, you have your shameful party. You will defend any evil if you think it will promote your party.

 

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Has rampant starvation increased or decreased in the last 500 years?

Decreased by about 20,000 fold.

Are you going to lie about it? Use some communist web site claiming that all were happy and well fed until capitalism came about?

ROFL

 

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They were on the same side of the class war.

No, they were on opposite sides.

Mussolini, like Lenin (NEP) and other Marxists, promoted a class of government protected looters. Just the same as Obama does with Goldman Sachs and General Motors.

Friedman promoted a market economy.

 

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And what do you suggest be done to iradicate Islam? Let's hear some solutions.

What was done to eradicate Nazism after the end of WWII?

Here's a hint, we didn't let the Nazis erect a massive meeting hall with a Swastika on top at Omaha Beach....

We also didn't engage in genocide of Nazis.