Why do democrats want more people on foodstamps and welfare

[Ray From Cleveland]

The fact that you invoke the Obama Phone myth is, in and of itself , enough to destroy and credibility that you might have had:

Hey, I didn't create the term--she did:

And, your antidotal story about something you allegedly observed once in no way mitigates or refutes the logic and facts presented by Piven and Cloward

Not once, hundreds of times. You see years ago when I used to repair and deliver medical equipment to homes, I often found myself in lower income areas. I've been in every Cleveland project at least a half-dozen times.

Always the same thing. Single welfare mom with three or four kids, at times pregnant with another one. There were a lot of Medicaid forms to sign, and some of them didn't even know how to write.

The solution to their problem (that they created) was quite simple. Keep your legs closed and get a job instead. But hey! As long as we taxpayers are going to give them a place to live, plenty to eat, free medical care, what's the point of doing things the hard way?

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

The fact that you invoke the Obama Phone myth is, in and of itself , enough to destroy and credibility that you might have had:

Hey, I didn't create the term--she did:

And, your antidotal story about something you allegedly observed once in no way mitigates or refutes the logic and facts presented by Piven and Cloward

Not once, hundreds of times. You see years ago when I used to repair and deliver medical equipment to homes, I often found myself in lower income areas. I've been in every Cleveland project at least a half-dozen times.

Always the same thing. Single welfare mom with three or four kids, at times pregnant with another one. There were a lot of Medicaid forms to sign, and some of them didn't even know how to write.

The solution to their problem (that they created) was quite simple. Keep your legs closed and get a job instead. But hey! As long as we taxpayers are going to give them a place to live, plenty to eat, free medical care, what's the point of doing things the hard way?

The only thing that this proves is that you have not cornered the market on stupidity. I provided irrefutable proof that it is not an Obama program but you can't seem to grasp that.

 

[koshergrl]

They want welfare because welfare is their replacement for slavery. They need a dependent class in order to justify their existence.

Food stamps feed children

Yup. Food stamps feed the children of the criminal and retarded class, who are created by and maintained by Democrats as their slaves.

And if the foodstamps disappeared, someone else would feed those children. Maybe even their own parents. That would be something, huh?

 

[Wry Catcher]

First of all 59 pages based on a troll's comment and a link to simple solutions is absurd.

Callous conservatives (CC) hold two beliefs to be basic truths: Those who need government assistance are lazy reprobates who want free stuff, and those with enormous wealth are godly and deserve all that they have. At least that's what is expressed by the CC's above.

Any argument with a CC is a waste of time. Suffice it to consider this:

Both beliefs are the opening statements of a false narrative, as is the title of this thread.

Look another troll trying to push their false statements and crying about other trolls and their false statements, it is pretty funny.

It's all about the facts, Friday, all about the facts. Something alien to the right wing so stuck in denial and and suffering cognitive dissonance. Take two Xanax and smoke a joint - you might then experience a breakthrough.

You know from my perspective both sides lie, make dumb generalizations and add nothing, just as I pointed out in your post. Maybe if you laid off the Xanax and pot you might begin to think again before your next post, otherwise you are no different than shootspeeders, just a hateful whacko.

LOL, what have you ever contributed to an issue? You're a childish bum.

 

[Papageorgio]

First of all 59 pages based on a troll's comment and a link to simple solutions is absurd.

Callous conservatives (CC) hold two beliefs to be basic truths: Those who need government assistance are lazy reprobates who want free stuff, and those with enormous wealth are godly and deserve all that they have. At least that's what is expressed by the CC's above.

Any argument with a CC is a waste of time. Suffice it to consider this:

Both beliefs are the opening statements of a false narrative, as is the title of this thread.

Look another troll trying to push their false statements and crying about other trolls and their false statements, it is pretty funny.

It's all about the facts, Friday, all about the facts. Something alien to the right wing so stuck in denial and and suffering cognitive dissonance. Take two Xanax and smoke a joint - you might then experience a breakthrough.

You know from my perspective both sides lie, make dumb generalizations and add nothing, just as I pointed out in your post. Maybe if you laid off the Xanax and pot you might begin to think again before your next post, otherwise you are no different than shootspeeders, just a hateful whacko.

LOL, what have you ever contributed to an issue? You're a childish bum.

Lol! With your comments and you criticize others? Lol! Nutso Democrat.

 

[Wry Catcher]

First of all 59 pages based on a troll's comment and a link to simple solutions is absurd.

Callous conservatives (CC) hold two beliefs to be basic truths: Those who need government assistance are lazy reprobates who want free stuff, and those with enormous wealth are godly and deserve all that they have. At least that's what is expressed by the CC's above.

Any argument with a CC is a waste of time. Suffice it to consider this:

Both beliefs are the opening statements of a false narrative, as is the title of this thread.

Look another troll trying to push their false statements and crying about other trolls and their false statements, it is pretty funny.

It's all about the facts, Friday, all about the facts. Something alien to the right wing so stuck in denial and and suffering cognitive dissonance. Take two Xanax and smoke a joint - you might then experience a breakthrough.

You know from my perspective both sides lie, make dumb generalizations and add nothing, just as I pointed out in your post. Maybe if you laid off the Xanax and pot you might begin to think again before your next post, otherwise you are no different than shootspeeders, just a hateful whacko.

LOL, what have you ever contributed to an issue? You're a childish bum.

Lol! With your comments and you criticize others? Lol! Nutso Democrat.

Still no rebuttal! How can I know your perspective, since all you do is whine and post ad hominems? You strike me as a negative Nellie, up tight and uninformed.

Maybe I judge too harshly, maybe there is some substance to you, and something more thoughtful than calling someone a "Nutso Democrat". Make a case and I'll consider my judgment of you as a childish bum.

 

[Papageorgio]

Look another troll trying to push their false statements and crying about other trolls and their false statements, it is pretty funny.

It's all about the facts, Friday, all about the facts. Something alien to the right wing so stuck in denial and and suffering cognitive dissonance. Take two Xanax and smoke a joint - you might then experience a breakthrough.

You know from my perspective both sides lie, make dumb generalizations and add nothing, just as I pointed out in your post. Maybe if you laid off the Xanax and pot you might begin to think again before your next post, otherwise you are no different than shootspeeders, just a hateful whacko.

LOL, what have you ever contributed to an issue? You're a childish bum.

Lol! With your comments and you criticize others? Lol! Nutso Democrat.

Still no rebuttal! How can I know your perspective, since all you do is whine and post ad hominems? You strike me as a negative Nellie, up tight and uninformed.

Maybe I judge too harshly, maybe there is some substance to you, and something more thoughtful than calling someone a "Nutso Democrat". Make a case and I'll consider my judgment of you as a childish bum.

Good, I really don’t care what you think of me because I think you are a low life asshole. Your opinions are ill informed and based off of nothing but your opinion. So think what you like and enjoy.

 

[koshergrl]

Look another troll trying to push their false statements and crying about other trolls and their false statements, it is pretty funny.

It's all about the facts, Friday, all about the facts. Something alien to the right wing so stuck in denial and and suffering cognitive dissonance. Take two Xanax and smoke a joint - you might then experience a breakthrough.

You know from my perspective both sides lie, make dumb generalizations and add nothing, just as I pointed out in your post. Maybe if you laid off the Xanax and pot you might begin to think again before your next post, otherwise you are no different than shootspeeders, just a hateful whacko.

LOL, what have you ever contributed to an issue? You're a childish bum.

Lol! With your comments and you criticize others? Lol! Nutso Democrat.

Still no rebuttal! How can I know your perspective, since all you do is whine and post ad hominems? You strike me as a negative Nellie, up tight and uninformed.

Maybe I judge too harshly, maybe there is some substance to you, and something more thoughtful than calling someone a "Nutso Democrat". Make a case and I'll consider my judgment of you as a childish bum.

You have to make some sort of cogent argument to get a rebuttal.

 

[danielpalos]

It is up to the Individual to stay poor on an at-will basis in any at-will employment State.

It is being paid now; I recommend simplification to complete coverage and lower costs.

Nope; employment is at-will. No more expenses in that sector from at-will employment issues.

A, "two for one deal"?

Just say you can't clarify, it is much simpler than pretending you have an idea.

by solving simple poverty; Market based products should appear to meet that new demand. In that manner, insurance products will be available which should help lower our costs via normal market forces.

Solving simple poverty is not simple and it takes lots of money, the initial costs would be prohibitive. We can even fund SSI and Medicare, it is breaking us and that was already funded.

Simple poverty can be solved on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States. That is pretty efficient.

Providing for the general welfare is in our Constitution, providing for the general warfare is not.

You still haven’t explained how it wouldn’t cost but I don’t expect it, all you have is cliches and no real ideas.

It is less expensive than means tested welfare and engenders a positive multiplier effect on our economy. It is about giving Labor the modern conveniences of Capitalism.

Only the right wing insists on the Socialism of morals from the Age of Iron in modern times.

 

[danielpalos]

The point is, silly right winger who never gets it, to lower costs. Unemployment insurance is simply more cost effective.

You still don't get paid if you can work, but won't.

Only if the employers believe in a natural rate of unemployment.

No, because no one wants to give you what you don't earn, and don't need but can't get on your own.

Solving for socioeconomic problems in is our Constitution; it is termed and styled, providing for the general welfare.

That has nothing to do with your desire to live off others' hard work.

It is about the law, right wingers; not enough bigotry in it for y'all?

 

[hadit]

You still don't get paid if you can work, but won't.

Only if the employers believe in a natural rate of unemployment.

No, because no one wants to give you what you don't earn, and don't need but can't get on your own.

Solving for socioeconomic problems in is our Constitution; it is termed and styled, providing for the general welfare.

That has nothing to do with your desire to live off others' hard work.

It is about the law, right wingers; not enough bigotry in it for y'all?

There's no bigotry in noting that the law gives you no access to the fruit of others' labor.

 

[Papageorgio]

Just say you can't clarify, it is much simpler than pretending you have an idea.

by solving simple poverty; Market based products should appear to meet that new demand. In that manner, insurance products will be available which should help lower our costs via normal market forces.

Solving simple poverty is not simple and it takes lots of money, the initial costs would be prohibitive. We can even fund SSI and Medicare, it is breaking us and that was already funded.

Simple poverty can be solved on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States. That is pretty efficient.

Providing for the general welfare is in our Constitution, providing for the general warfare is not.

You still haven’t explained how it wouldn’t cost but I don’t expect it, all you have is cliches and no real ideas.

It is less expensive than means tested welfare and engenders a positive multiplier effect on our economy. It is about giving Labor the modern conveniences of Capitalism.

Only the right wing insists on the Socialism of morals from the Age of Iron in modern times.

Only you come up with stupid unsubstantiated BS. You want to discuss, discuss and leave out the silly nonsensical attacks.

Where is your backing that your idea is less expensive than the current system.

 

[Papageorgio]

You still don't get paid if you can work, but won't.

Only if the employers believe in a natural rate of unemployment.

No, because no one wants to give you what you don't earn, and don't need but can't get on your own.

Solving for socioeconomic problems in is our Constitution; it is termed and styled, providing for the general welfare.

That has nothing to do with your desire to live off others' hard work.

It is about the law, right wingers; not enough bigotry in it for y'all?

There is nothing in the law that requires others to give you what you are not willing to work for yourself.

How do you make the jump to bigotry or is that the buzz word you have been trained to mislead with?

 

[danielpalos]

Only if the employers believe in a natural rate of unemployment.

No, because no one wants to give you what you don't earn, and don't need but can't get on your own.

Solving for socioeconomic problems in is our Constitution; it is termed and styled, providing for the general welfare.

That has nothing to do with your desire to live off others' hard work.

It is about the law, right wingers; not enough bigotry in it for y'all?

There's no bigotry in noting that the law gives you no access to the fruit of others' labor.

It isn't the fruit of Your labor. In any case, it will be money well spent. We can end our wars on crime, drugs, and terror; to pay for it.

 

[danielpalos]

by solving simple poverty; Market based products should appear to meet that new demand. In that manner, insurance products will be available which should help lower our costs via normal market forces.

Solving simple poverty is not simple and it takes lots of money, the initial costs would be prohibitive. We can even fund SSI and Medicare, it is breaking us and that was already funded.

Simple poverty can be solved on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States. That is pretty efficient.

Providing for the general welfare is in our Constitution, providing for the general warfare is not.

You still haven’t explained how it wouldn’t cost but I don’t expect it, all you have is cliches and no real ideas.

It is less expensive than means tested welfare and engenders a positive multiplier effect on our economy. It is about giving Labor the modern conveniences of Capitalism.

Only the right wing insists on the Socialism of morals from the Age of Iron in modern times.

Only you come up with stupid unsubstantiated BS. You want to discuss, discuss and leave out the silly nonsensical attacks.

Where is your backing that your idea is less expensive than the current system.

Self-evident truths. Unemployment compensation should be as simple as applying for it; unlike, means tested welfare.

 

[danielpalos]

Only if the employers believe in a natural rate of unemployment.

No, because no one wants to give you what you don't earn, and don't need but can't get on your own.

Solving for socioeconomic problems in is our Constitution; it is termed and styled, providing for the general welfare.

That has nothing to do with your desire to live off others' hard work.

It is about the law, right wingers; not enough bigotry in it for y'all?

There is nothing in the law that requires others to give you what you are not willing to work for yourself.

How do you make the jump to bigotry or is that the buzz word you have been trained to mislead with?

It has to do with equal protection of the law. Only the right wing, has a problem with it. Bigotry?

 

[hadit]

No, because no one wants to give you what you don't earn, and don't need but can't get on your own.

Solving for socioeconomic problems in is our Constitution; it is termed and styled, providing for the general welfare.

That has nothing to do with your desire to live off others' hard work.

It is about the law, right wingers; not enough bigotry in it for y'all?

There's no bigotry in noting that the law gives you no access to the fruit of others' labor.

It isn't the fruit of Your labor. In any case, it will be money well spent. We can end our wars on crime, drugs, and terror; to pay for it.

Actually, it is the fruit of my labor. Every dollar I pay in taxes I earned first. What, did you think government earned money somehow? Everything it has it took from people who earned it.

 

[hadit]

No, because no one wants to give you what you don't earn, and don't need but can't get on your own.

Solving for socioeconomic problems in is our Constitution; it is termed and styled, providing for the general welfare.

That has nothing to do with your desire to live off others' hard work.

It is about the law, right wingers; not enough bigotry in it for y'all?

There is nothing in the law that requires others to give you what you are not willing to work for yourself.

How do you make the jump to bigotry or is that the buzz word you have been trained to mislead with?

It has to do with equal protection of the law. Only the right wing, has a problem with it. Bigotry?

We already have equal protection under the law. Have you forgotten already how thoroughly I drubbed you on the subject?

 

[danielpalos]

Solving for socioeconomic problems in is our Constitution; it is termed and styled, providing for the general welfare.

That has nothing to do with your desire to live off others' hard work.

It is about the law, right wingers; not enough bigotry in it for y'all?

There's no bigotry in noting that the law gives you no access to the fruit of others' labor.

It isn't the fruit of Your labor. In any case, it will be money well spent. We can end our wars on crime, drugs, and terror; to pay for it.

Actually, it is the fruit of my labor. Every dollar I pay in taxes I earned first. What, did you think government earned money somehow? Everything it has it took from people who earned it.

Equal protection of the law is a function of government. And, it would be business that pays it, not You.

 

[danielpalos]

Solving for socioeconomic problems in is our Constitution; it is termed and styled, providing for the general welfare.

That has nothing to do with your desire to live off others' hard work.

It is about the law, right wingers; not enough bigotry in it for y'all?

There is nothing in the law that requires others to give you what you are not willing to work for yourself.

How do you make the jump to bigotry or is that the buzz word you have been trained to mislead with?

It has to do with equal protection of the law. Only the right wing, has a problem with it. Bigotry?

We already have equal protection under the law. Have you forgotten already how thoroughly I drubbed you on the subject?

No, we don't. As usual, you don't know what you are talking about.

We could end homelessness, by solving for simple poverty.