Why Do Liberal/Progressives Seek To Impose Their Views On Others?

[Conservative65]

So an entity that provides something to society is worse than someone that provides nothing more than a chance for the government to take what I've earned so it can be handed to them? You seem confused about what has and doesn't have value.

No, an entity that hurts society, getting something for nothing.

Glad you see that social welfare leeches hurt society and get something for nothing. The only way you can defend a social welfare individual is to show me what they provide that helps society. You can't.

 

[thereisnospoon]

The usual complaint from libs about conservatives is that they seek to impose their views. Like everything else this is true, but only about libs. Consider gay marriage. Many states voted to amend their constitutions or enact other legislation that defined marriage as one man one woman. Libs werent successful making their case to the public (it was a loser issue at the pols) so they whined to some activist judges, who imposed gay marriage over the will of the people.

Oh, Rabbid, the thing is, we have a constitution that gives rights to individuals. If a majority of a state voted to confiscate your guns, you'd be pointing at the Second Amendment and saying, "See, see...this give me a right to my gun">

"Really, are you in a well-regulated militia?"

Or consider the Oregon bakers, whose business has been destroyed by lesbians offended that they wouldnt bake their wedding cake. And the bakers arent bigots, as often assumed. The lesbians picked the place because they were frequent customers there.

Isn't an argument there. Public Accommodation Laws say they have to serve any customers who have the money for services they offer. This has been black letter law for 50 years.

Or look at the demonization of smoking and smokers, who are considered one step above child molester in the media.

Why is this a partisan issue? Most conservatives don't want to try to eat their dinner in a room full of cigarette smoke, either. You do realize that smoking is bad for you, right? Now, I think a lot of the science on second hand smoke is dubious. But most folks have no problem with smoke-free workplaces. Maybe you need to talk to your big corporations, they were for it before the government was.

Or Common Core, which seeks to impose a national standard on what has traditionally been a local issue.

and why is this a bad thing? Are you saying that a HS Diploma from Florida should be worth less than one from Illinois? The USA drags behind every other industrialized nation in math and science. All those countries have national standards.

hardly the point. Your side has its own religion..Law and order liberalism. YOU know what's best. You want govt to be your mommy and daddy.
Common core for example, is on it's way out. Its been exposed as garbage.
Here's one example. Ridiculous It Takes This Teacher Almost A Minute To Explain A Simple Math Problem Using Common Core - Chicks on the Right
What kind of CRAP is this? It nonsense.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

What? It is simply fact that the bottom 47% of wage earners pay no income tax.
Cap gains should probably not be taxed at all.
Divididends are taxed twice--once as corporate income and once as personal income.

I'm pretty sure I'm in the bottom 47% and I pay taxes. So fuck you!

Not only should the tax rate on capital gains and dividends be raised 10%, we also need a Financial Transactions Tax of every traded share on Wall Street.

Did it ever dawn on you that you can take advantage of those same tax rates by investing? It's why the rate is set up that way so people can invest. The fact you're too stupid to get that is no reason to eliminate that tax rate in order to support your dumb ass.

 

[thereisnospoon]

What? It is simply fact that the bottom 47% of wage earners pay no income tax.
Cap gains should probably not be taxed at all.
Divididends are taxed twice--once as corporate income and once as personal income.

I'm pretty sure I'm in the bottom 47% and I pay taxes. So fuck you!

Not only should the tax rate on capital gains and dividends be raised 10%, we also need a Financial Transactions Tax of every traded share on Wall Street.

"Not only should the tax rate on capital gains and dividends be raised 10%, we also need a Financial Transactions Tax of every traded share on Wall Street"..
Why?

 

[thereisnospoon]

What? It is simply fact that the bottom 47% of wage earners pay no income tax.
Cap gains should probably not be taxed at all.
Divididends are taxed twice--once as corporate income and once as personal income.

I'm pretty sure I'm in the bottom 47% and I pay taxes. So fuck you!

Not only should the tax rate on capital gains and dividends be raised 10%, we also need a Financial Transactions Tax of every traded share on Wall Street.

Did it ever dawn on you that you can take advantage of those same tax rates by investing? It's why the rate is set up that way so people can invest. The fact you're too stupid to get that is no reason to eliminate that tax rate in order to support your dumb ass.

no he'd rather curse and spit those who use their brains to better themselves.
What that idiot does not realize is that all the people who have 401k's and other similar type investments will be LOSING a significant portion of their retirement savings if such taxes were added. But Joe doesn't care. He's pissed off and wants to 'get even'....
Fuck him....What he proposes is nothing more than outright theft.

 

[The Rabbi]

What? It is simply fact that the bottom 47% of wage earners pay no income tax.
Cap gains should probably not be taxed at all.
Divididends are taxed twice--once as corporate income and once as personal income.

I'm pretty sure I'm in the bottom 47% and I pay taxes. So fuck you!

Not only should the tax rate on capital gains and dividends be raised 10%, we also need a Financial Transactions Tax of every traded share on Wall Street.

"Not only should the tax rate on capital gains and dividends be raised 10%, we also need a Financial Transactions Tax of every traded share on Wall Street"..
Why?

Because he hates wealthy successful people. It's the only possible reason.

 

[thereisnospoon]

The usual complaint from libs about conservatives is that they seek to impose their views. Like everything else this is true, but only about libs. Consider gay marriage. Many states voted to amend their constitutions or enact other legislation that defined marriage as one man one woman. Libs werent successful making their case to the public (it was a loser issue at the pols) so they whined to some activist judges, who imposed gay marriage over the will of the people.
Or consider the Oregon bakers, whose business has been destroyed by lesbians offended that they wouldnt bake their wedding cake. And the bakers arent bigots, as often assumed. The lesbians picked the place because they were frequent customers there.
Or look at the demonization of smoking and smokers, who are considered one step above child molester in the media.
Or Common Core, which seeks to impose a national standard on what has traditionally been a local issue.
Or, but you get the point here.
Progs cant help themselves from wanting to make America look like their vision, where everyone practices safe sex and recylces to prevent global warming.
This isnt a free society. This is fascism in action.

Cause we want to live in a fair and free society.

You know nothing of freedom.
Your definition of "fair" is equality of outcome which is incompatible with freedom and liberty.

 

[The Rabbi]

The usual complaint from libs about conservatives is that they seek to impose their views. Like everything else this is true, but only about libs. Consider gay marriage. Many states voted to amend their constitutions or enact other legislation that defined marriage as one man one woman. Libs werent successful making their case to the public (it was a loser issue at the pols) so they whined to some activist judges, who imposed gay marriage over the will of the people.
Or consider the Oregon bakers, whose business has been destroyed by lesbians offended that they wouldnt bake their wedding cake. And the bakers arent bigots, as often assumed. The lesbians picked the place because they were frequent customers there.
Or look at the demonization of smoking and smokers, who are considered one step above child molester in the media.
Or Common Core, which seeks to impose a national standard on what has traditionally been a local issue.
Or, but you get the point here.
Progs cant help themselves from wanting to make America look like their vision, where everyone practices safe sex and recylces to prevent global warming.
This isnt a free society. This is fascism in action.

Cause we want to live in a fair and free society.

You know nothing of freedom.
Your definition of "fair" is equality of outcome which is incompatible with freedom and liberty.

By "fair" he means "where everyone is poor and miserable"
By "free" he means "where you can do anything you want, as long as we approve of it."

 

[thereisnospoon]

We all do it... Liberals and Conservatives, and Centrists and Independents alike.

What distinguishes Liberals from the rest, I think, is their obnoxious insistence upon getting their own way by any means and at any cost.

And there are even exceptions in that category - there are, indeed, examples of such disingenuous and overbearing behaviors on the part of the others, as well.

It's just that Liberals / Progressives seem to do it sooooo much more frequently than the others, that Lib-Progs end-up 'eating' (suffering) the attaching of the stereotype to them, and end-up 'owning' it - fairly or unfairly - rightly or wrongly.

The most disgusting aspect of this, for me, is the seeming insistence of Lib-Progs that they pretend to know what is good for you, soooo much better than you do yourself.

It's the mindset which says that not only are there some things that the government does better than the individual, but that most things are better done by the government than by the individual - and that they know better than you, which things those are.

Not to mention their willingness-in-a-heartbeat to empty your wallet on behalf of The Beehive Collective, insofar as they can get away with it, by any means, fair or foul.

Most LIb-Progs probably start-out meaning well, and a great many in their ranks are young, and inexperienced, and naive and gullible, and are absolutely certain that they have all the answers...

These younglings have all the energy and fervor and zeal of the New Religious Convert, having found a Substitute God to worship, and a wide-ranging Congregation in which to reside, and they work very hard to advance their 'faith' and to zealously advocate for their 'substitute godhead'; 'missionary work' - secular style - for many younglings.

Lib-Prog ranks also include old-timers and minorities who oftentimes seem not to have done well in life, and who band-together and submit to The Beehive Collective, seeking safety in numbers, rather like a school fish.

Lib-Prog ranks also seem to include a few here and there who have done well in life, and who enjoy the White Man's Guilt or Rich Man's Duty to Humanity, and who lend some additional weight to an oftentimes otherwise lightweight collection of juicy rationalizations and erzatz justifications for their Beehive Collective Mindset.

Because a great many of them believe that they are the one-and-only answer, and that they, above all others, fight for justice and peace and the betterment of Mankind - they oftentimes and nearly unconsciously slip into a "The End Justifies the Means" framework in their dealings with others who do not think like them...

Lib-Progs - once they slip into End-Justifies-the-Means mode - then seem to slowly but surely slip into the role of the Socialist Revolutionary - most recently represented in the 20th by the Communists in various parts of the world.

Of course, we all know how that Grand Experiment turned out.

All the rest of us can do is to take the best of what they offer and incorporate that into a saner overall governance and society, while rejecting the more impractical or idiotic or touchy-feely crap they dream-up, and bitch-slap them back to Reality when they get lose control and become dangerous or - more frequently - just a genuine pain in the ass.

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"A man who is not a Liberal in his youth has no heart.

A man who is not a Conservative in his old age has no brains."

- Winston Churchill

( an apocryphal attribution )

As a liberal, I can say with certainty, none of that is true.

Now, here's what you should have said...

Another lying Liberal piece of shit.

Do you support social welfare programs? Do you support Obamacare? Do you support the free community college tuition proposal by Obama? Do you support any big government program that gives the federal government authority to do things for which the Constitution gives no specific delegated authority?

I support all those things.

Of course you do....it's socialist central planning that wets your panties.

 

[thereisnospoon]

See, you push values on people against their will. You are a fascist.

Guy, you had no problem pushing values on people when it was the white, Christian majority in charge, filling the restaurant with smoke and buying textbooks for Texas that don't teach about no evolution because Jesus would cry.

You just don't like it that you aren't making the calls anymore.

I think you are delusional...
The voters called the shots last November. Challenge that.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Progs eat, breath and sleep CONTROL. They HATE anyone who DARE disagree with them.

Here's the basic difference between a prog and a conservative...

... on the topic of the second amendment and the right to own a gun...

... the conservative says, "hey, if you don't want to own a gun, don't own one."

... the prog says, "I don't like guns, so I don't want ANYBODY to be able to own one."

And there you have it, the BASIC, CORE DIFFERENCE between progs and conservatives.

Conservatives want the freedom for people to make their own choices and keep the government out of it, and the progs want to impose their agenda on everyone by the government forcing them whether they like it or not.

We see all it all day, every day.

32,000 gun deaths and 78,000 gun injuries every year. It would be nice if you guys kept the carnage to yourselves, but the rest of us end up paying for it. It is estimated gun violence costs this country 300 billion a year. so, yeah, we should have a say about who gets a gun, and just because some Slave Rapists couldn't properly word a Militia Amendment, is not a good reason for the insanity.

38,000 killed in motor vehicle crashes. Ya wanna ban cars too?
Let us know how things work out when you are the victim of a home invasion.
You'll quickly become a conservative..Or dead.

 

[thereisnospoon]

And its illegal to drive 100 mph. So no one should own a 30 round gun RPG or tank.

D'OH!!!!!

 

[thereisnospoon]

History teaches that when Progressive finally take the guns away, the death toll goes into 8 or 9 figures

Really? Only if you read a history book written by a retard.

Hey, the problem in Nazi Germany and Russia and China was you had too many people with guns who just saw the breakdown of law and order as an excuse to kill the neighbors.

How the hell did you make through unscathed.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Another lying Liberal piece of shit.

Do you support social welfare programs? Do you support Obamacare? Do you support the free community college tuition proposal by Obama? Do you support any big government program that gives the federal government authority to do things for which the Constitution gives no specific delegated authority?

It's Congress job to ensure the "general welfare" of the country and whatever that contains.

WRONG.....The US Constitution makes no provision "ensuring" general welfare.
The Constitution permits the government to "promote the general welfare of the people"...
That means national defense, laws that punish those that harm others( legislature), essential infrastructure, commerce, common currency, stable financial system....

 

[thereisnospoon]

The usual complaint from libs about conservatives is that they seek to impose their views. Like everything else this is true, but only about libs. Consider gay marriage. Many states voted to amend their constitutions or enact other legislation that defined marriage as one man one woman. Libs werent successful making their case to the public (it was a loser issue at the pols) so they whined to some activist judges, who imposed gay marriage over the will of the people.
Or consider the Oregon bakers, whose business has been destroyed by lesbians offended that they wouldnt bake their wedding cake. And the bakers arent bigots, as often assumed. The lesbians picked the place because they were frequent customers there.
Or look at the demonization of smoking and smokers, who are considered one step above child molester in the media.
Or Common Core, which seeks to impose a national standard on what has traditionally been a local issue.
Or, but you get the point here.
Progs cant help themselves from wanting to make America look like their vision, where everyone practices safe sex and recylces to prevent global warming.
This isnt a free society. This is fascism in action.

Really?

Not too long ago I remember a large voting group trying to tell me what to do with my female parts, trying to bring us back to the 1800's....

I know a large group who brainwash people ( especially the Bible Belt ) into thinking that if they don't vote for their party ....they are not a christian........

So many still fall for that...

Do WHAT with your single issue lady parts?
Look, if you want to lay on your back and play flower vase with multiple partners, that's your choice. Just do not demand other subsidize your irresponsible behavior.

 

[thereisnospoon]

The usual complaint from libs about conservatives is that they seek to impose their views. Like everything else this is true, but only about libs. Consider gay marriage. Many states voted to amend their constitutions or enact other legislation that defined marriage as one man one woman. Libs werent successful making their case to the public (it was a loser issue at the pols) so they whined to some activist judges, who imposed gay marriage over the will of the people.
Or consider the Oregon bakers, whose business has been destroyed by lesbians offended that they wouldnt bake their wedding cake. And the bakers arent bigots, as often assumed. The lesbians picked the place because they were frequent customers there.
Or look at the demonization of smoking and smokers, who are considered one step above child molester in the media.
Or Common Core, which seeks to impose a national standard on what has traditionally been a local issue.
Or, but you get the point here.
Progs cant help themselves from wanting to make America look like their vision, where everyone practices safe sex and recylces to prevent global warming.
This isnt a free society. This is fascism in action.

Really?

Not too long ago I remember a large voting group trying to tell me what to do with my female parts, trying to bring us back to the 1800's....

I know know a large group who brainwash people ( especially the Bible Belt ) into thinking that if they don't vote for their party ....they are not a christian........

So many still fall for that...

Really? Please post who these people are telling you you can't have an appendectomy or whatever. Who are these people brainwashing others about Christians only voting for one party? I live in the buckle of the Bible Belt and have seen only the opposite: Progrssves telling people they werent Christian because they opposed some giveaway or other.

Even Wiki knows who tries to run a woman's right to take care of herself while making it easier to get Viagra for themselves.
War on Women - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Even Wiki knows who runs the bible belt...Bible Belt - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

The war on women that cost a whole bunch of democrats their elected office?
Keep it up....

 

[thereisnospoon]

The usual complaint from libs about conservatives is that they seek to impose their views. Like everything else this is true, but only about libs. Consider gay marriage. Many states voted to amend their constitutions or enact other legislation that defined marriage as one man one woman. Libs werent successful making their case to the public (it was a loser issue at the pols) so they whined to some activist judges, who imposed gay marriage over the will of the people.
Or consider the Oregon bakers, whose business has been destroyed by lesbians offended that they wouldnt bake their wedding cake. And the bakers arent bigots, as often assumed. The lesbians picked the place because they were frequent customers there.
Or look at the demonization of smoking and smokers, who are considered one step above child molester in the media.
Or Common Core, which seeks to impose a national standard on what has traditionally been a local issue.
Or, but you get the point here.
Progs cant help themselves from wanting to make America look like their vision, where everyone practices safe sex and recylces to prevent global warming.
This isnt a free society. This is fascism in action.

We all live in the same society which means we must all think alike. Whenever someone thinks different it upsets the consensus and we must accept it as a whole or reject it as a whole. Opinions held by the minority can't exist which means these people must be bullied, shamed, ridiculed into submission. In another century we just killed them but because we got laws preventing us from doing that we must resort to more humane ways of doing that. Whenever I get like this I wish we could bring back stallin. He knew how to deal with right wing extremist. The good old days....

Can I have some of what you are inhaling?

 

[thereisnospoon]

It's nice to see how thoroughly programmed conservatives are. They never let facts get in the way of a good rant against the poor, against those who wish to live their lives differently than conservatives do, i.e. gays, against liberals, against everyone who doesn't act or think like they do.

They hate big government but want the US to attack anyone they think puts the US at risk. But don't raise their taxes to pay for these incursions, oh no no no. They worship big corporations and want the government to do everything for them, completely ignoring the wealth transfer to the top corporations and individuals but railing against every $$ spent on the poor.

Never have I seen such a bunch of dumb asses in my life. The posters here define the term "low information voters".

That's right..TYake what your side does and accuse others of doing the same thing....
Nice try.

 

[ScienceRocks]

What's even worse is it doesn't even make a lot of sense.
1. It discourages a strong family
2. It encourages single parent families
3. It hates the dad and fatherhood
4. It accepts all kinds of sexual craziness
5. It doesn't hold truth in high regard
6. It allows blacks to kill, rape and destroy and defends them for it.
7. It wants us to accept being replaced by the third world

I could go on and on but it seems to me that far leftist beliefs are plain nutso.

 

[ScienceRocks]

The usual complaint from libs about conservatives is that they seek to impose their views. Like everything else this is true, but only about libs. Consider gay marriage. Many states voted to amend their constitutions or enact other legislation that defined marriage as one man one woman. Libs werent successful making their case to the public (it was a loser issue at the pols) so they whined to some activist judges, who imposed gay marriage over the will of the people.
Or consider the Oregon bakers, whose business has been destroyed by lesbians offended that they wouldnt bake their wedding cake. And the bakers arent bigots, as often assumed. The lesbians picked the place because they were frequent customers there.
Or look at the demonization of smoking and smokers, who are considered one step above child molester in the media.
Or Common Core, which seeks to impose a national standard on what has traditionally been a local issue.
Or, but you get the point here.
Progs cant help themselves from wanting to make America look like their vision, where everyone practices safe sex and recylces to prevent global warming.
This isnt a free society. This is fascism in action.

Really?

Not too long ago I remember a large voting group trying to tell me what to do with my female parts, trying to bring us back to the 1800's....

I know know a large group who brainwash people ( especially the Bible Belt ) into thinking that if they don't vote for their party ....they are not a christian........

So many still fall for that...

Really? Please post who these people are telling you you can't have an appendectomy or whatever. Who are these people brainwashing others about Christians only voting for one party? I live in the buckle of the Bible Belt and have seen only the opposite: Progrssves telling people they werent Christian because they opposed some giveaway or other.

Even Wiki knows who tries to run a woman's right to take care of herself while making it easier to get Viagra for themselves.
War on Women - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Even Wiki knows who runs the bible belt...Bible Belt - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

The war on women that cost a whole bunch of democrats their elected office?
Keep it up....

Sick and tired of identity politics. Why not encourage earning it no matter who you're??? Instead of blaming others for your problems. stupid democrats.