Mac1958
Diamond Member
Yeah, I'm holding out hope, despite all the evidence....I hardly thnk it's unknown. He shoots from the lip and depends on others to clean up the mess. That would spell disaster in a president.I guess the unknown here is how Trump behaves behind closed doors. It's possible he's a perfectly normal adult back there. I'm holding out hope, I guess.Hillary will be corrupt as shit but very efficient. Trump will be a bull in a china shop because he is arrogant and ignorant. And we saw with Obama arrogant and ignorant are bad combinations.I'm thinking the irony here is that both Clinton and Trump would probably end up being relatively moderate, pragmatic Presidents. Both of them are playing to their base, and both annoy the ideological purists in their parties. A bigger wild card is how congressional elections shake out.I agree with this statement. I see Hillary as likely continuing things as they are. Now, if you don't watch radical right wing news sources...you would realize that we are still one of the most powerful countries in the world. We are doing great. We have one of the strongest economies, we have THE strongest military, we have strong global influence...by most measures we would probably be in the top 5 strongest nations in the world. So, continuing the status quo, while concerning (with our debt, our recent lack of military modernization, a growing income inequality divide between the normal citizen and the hyper wealthy, etc.) is at least palatable.It's simple. Trump is riding the wave of discontent Republican voters have with the Republican establishment. They're sick and tired of having bland, featureless, gentlemanly candidates who run away when the NYT threatens to call them a racist, bigot, homophobe who wears white after Labor Day.
The bottom line is this. A Trump presidency would be a crap shoot, a Hillary presidency would just be crap.
On the other hand, Trump is a crap shoot. We really don't know what he is going to do in office. He could be okay for the country (there is almost no way he would do great as he has ostracized himself from both political parties and would have no legislative cooperation) or he could be so inane as to actually cause a civil war (this isn't outside the bounds of reality when you consider how divisive he is...people are both radically opposed to him and radically support him...he could likely be assassinated which would fuel, at the very least, many riots and protests and, at the very worst, outright civil conflict). Maybe it is just me, but I'd take an assured concerning status quo over the potential for having to literally barricade my own home and kill my neighbors.
In other words, I suspect the country would somehow manage to survive either of them.
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And yes, Hillary would be a machine, and not anywhere near the maniacal communist/Marxist/whatever-ist she's being painted as.
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