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The will of the people does not get to decide what rights others are entitled to
That is why we have courts...to defend the rights of a minority against the majority
Hey Norton - you've been spending too much time down in the Sewer .
Even those of us in a sewer understand our Constitution
Hey Norton - you've been spending too much time down in the Sewer .
Even those of us in a sewer understand our Constitution
I find it highly unlikely that a shit shoveling shyster such as yourself is capable of comprehending much beyond his own narrow field of vision.
Some of the Worlds greatest legal minds have debated over our Constitution for generations, yet a cum guzzler such as yourself pretends to be an expert.
Quite frankly Norton - Trixie must be ashamed of you
In 2012, Maine, Maryland, and Washington became the first states to legalize same-sex marriage through popular vote.
In 2012, Maine, Maryland, and Washington became the first states to legalize same-sex marriage through popular vote.
If SCOTUS decides on behalf of Utah in the Utah vs Harvey Milkers case, those will be the only three states where gay marriage is legal.
When was the last state-wide vote on gay marriage?
Many jurisdictions have bypassed the will of the people and legalized same-sex civil marriage through court rulings, and legislative action.
In '98, in response to a State Supreme Court ruling, voters in Hawaii approved a constitutional amendment allowing their legislature to ban same-sex marriage
In 2012, Maine, Maryland, and Washington became the first states to legalize same-sex marriage through popular vote.
In 2010, 29 states had constitutional provisions restricting marriage to one man and one woman
In 28 out of 30 states where constitutional amendments or initiatives that define marriage as the union of a man and a woman were put on the ballot in a referendum, voters approved such amendments.
Condensed From Wikipedia
In 2012, Maine, Maryland, and Washington became the first states to legalize same-sex marriage through popular vote.
If SCOTUS decides on behalf of Utah in the Utah vs Harvey Milkers case, those will be the only three states where gay marriage is legal.
Sometime I wonder where you pull this stuff from...
Other times I just shake my head.
If the SCOTUS does rule in favor of Utah, then it's not just 3 states where SSCM will remain legal, it's (State, Method of Passage, Year):
Delaware Legislatively - 2013
District of Columbia Legislatively - 2009
Hawaii Legislatively - 2013
Illinois Legislatively - 2013
Maine Ballot 2012
Maryland Ballot - 2012
Minnesota Ballot/Legislatively - 2012
New Hampshire Legislatively - 2009
New York Legislatively - 2011
Rhode Island Legislatively - 2013
Vermont Legislatively - 2009
Washington Ballot - 2012
and
New Jersey Judicially - 2013
Massachusetts Judicially - 2004
Iowa Judicially - 2009
Connecticut Judicially - 2008
New Mexico Judically 2013
The second "judicial" group are prohibitions overturned based on State Constitutions, even if the SCOTUS sides with Utah based in Federal court based on the Federal Constitution - that wouldn't over turn State recognition based on State Constitutions. Those 5 states would have to pass an amendment to their constitution to override the State Supreme Court.
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Hey Norton - you've been spending too much time down in the Sewer .
Even those of us in a sewer understand our Constitution
I find it highly unlikely that a shit shoveling shyster such as yourself is capable of comprehending much beyond his own narrow field of vision.
Some of the Worlds greatest legal minds have debated over our Constitution for generations, yet a cum guzzler such as yourself pretends to be an expert.
Quite frankly Norton - Trixie must be ashamed of you
Even those of us in a sewer understand our Constitution
I find it highly unlikely that a shit shoveling shyster such as yourself is capable of comprehending much beyond his own narrow field of vision.
Some of the Worlds greatest legal minds have debated over our Constitution for generations, yet a cum guzzler such as yourself pretends to be an expert.
Quite frankly Norton - Trixie must be ashamed of you
You are wrong.
Our civil rights are not subject to the 'will of the people.'
missed the point did we?false http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factions_in_the_Republican_Party_(United_States)The tea party ISN'T a faction or sub group of the gop, you moron.
It has really become quite obvious that the only sub-group of any size and significance within the electorate whose primary purpose is to truly represent the American people is what most people know as the Tea Party. The fact that it faces vehement opposition from the other three groups (the Republican leadership, the Democratic leadership, and the Democratic rank and file) should come as no surprise and this election cycle may well determine whether there is any hope for America in the future. Our future lies in the hands of those who now consider themselves to be independent.
Who Founded the American Tea Party? | AaronInvestigates
proving KOSHER HAG IS NEVER CORRECT AND NUTS ONE POST AT A TIME!
Yeah, no. Based on the fact that the TEA Party took out more GOP politicians than it did Democrat it can safely be stated that the TEA Party is NOT a friend of the GOP. Wiki is not your friend Daws.
your obsession with ingesting ejaculate..is an excellent indicator of suppressed sexual desire...Hey Norton - you've been spending too much time down in the Sewer .
Even those of us in a sewer understand our Constitution
I find it highly unlikely that a shit shoveling shyster such as yourself is capable of comprehending much beyond his own narrow field of vision.
Some of the Worlds greatest legal minds have debated over our Constitution for generations, yet a cum guzzler such as yourself pretends to be an expert.
Quite frankly Norton - Trixie must be ashamed of you
"...a new study suggests that opposition to same-sex marriage may be understated in public opinion polls. Using pre-election polling data in states that have voted on same-sex marriage measures, political scientist Richard J. Powell found that pre-election surveys consistently underestimated opposition to these laws by 5 to 7 percentage points."
"Social desirability bias in polling comes in many flavors. Perhaps the most well known is the Bradley Effect, named after former Los Angeles Mayor Tom Bradley, a black man, who faced Republican George Deukmejian, who was white, in the 1982 California gubernatorial race. Bradley held a substantial lead in most pre-election polls, only to lose narrowly. His defeat fueled speculation that some white voters had given misleading answers to poll-takers, saying they supported Bradley or were undecided but really favored Deukmejian.
"But it wasnt until 2007 that Harvard political scientist Daniel Hopkins confirmed the existence of the effect. He studied elections between 1989 and 2006 that pitted black and white Senate candidates against each other. He found that the black candidates polled better than their final share of the vote in contests with white candidates in elections through 1996. But the effect then vanished, for reasons that he said were unclear."
Study: Opposition to same-sex marriage may be understated in public opinion polls | Pew Research Center
When was the last state-wide vote on gay marriage?
If SCOTUS decides on behalf of Utah in the Utah vs Harvey Milkers case, those will be the only three states where gay marriage is legal.
Sometime I wonder where you pull this stuff from...
Other times I just shake my head.
If the SCOTUS does rule in favor of Utah, then it's not just 3 states where SSCM will remain legal, it's (State, Method of Passage, Year):
Delaware Legislatively - 2013
District of Columbia Legislatively - 2009
Hawaii Legislatively - 2013
Illinois Legislatively - 2013
Maine Ballot 2012
Maryland Ballot - 2012
Minnesota Ballot/Legislatively - 2012
New Hampshire Legislatively - 2009
New York Legislatively - 2011
Rhode Island Legislatively - 2013
Vermont Legislatively - 2009
Washington Ballot - 2012
and
New Jersey Judicially - 2013
Massachusetts Judicially - 2004
Iowa Judicially - 2009
Connecticut Judicially - 2008
New Mexico Judically 2013
The second "judicial" group are prohibitions overturned based on State Constitutions, even if the SCOTUS sides with Utah based in Federal court based on the Federal Constitution - that wouldn't over turn State recognition based on State Constitutions. Those 5 states would have to pass an amendment to their constitution to override the State Supreme Court.
>>>>
In DOMA you will recognize that the Court indicated its preference was for a broad consensus to weigh in in each state. ie: if there is any future suit brought where an individual or group from a state sue to clarify gay marriage as illegal there, preference will be given to the way it was arrived at that allowed for the broadest consensus.
I have a feeling we will see a lot of citations of DOMA's specific language in the years to come regarding what ways what type of marriage can become legal or is defined as legal as in the various states. In fact, as weird as DOMA was thought of at first, it appears to be a template that anticipated a variety of future suits on the matter.
Again, the Court indicated its preference was for as wide a consensus as possible on the topic.
the backers of prop 8 did just that..and it was overturned.Because polls can be easily designed to the needed result?
"...a new study suggests that opposition to same-sex marriage may be understated in public opinion polls. Using pre-election polling data in states that have voted on same-sex marriage measures, political scientist Richard J. Powell found that pre-election surveys consistently underestimated opposition to these laws by 5 to 7 percentage points."
"Social desirability bias in polling comes in many flavors. Perhaps the most well known is the Bradley Effect, named after former Los Angeles Mayor Tom Bradley, a black man, who faced Republican George Deukmejian, who was white, in the 1982 California gubernatorial race. Bradley held a substantial lead in most pre-election polls, only to lose narrowly. His defeat fueled speculation that some white voters had given misleading answers to poll-takers, saying they supported Bradley or were undecided but really favored Deukmejian.
"But it wasnt until 2007 that Harvard political scientist Daniel Hopkins confirmed the existence of the effect. He studied elections between 1989 and 2006 that pitted black and white Senate candidates against each other. He found that the black candidates polled better than their final share of the vote in contests with white candidates in elections through 1996. But the effect then vanished, for reasons that he said were unclear."
Study: Opposition to same-sex marriage may be understated in public opinion polls | Pew Research Center
When was the last state-wide vote on gay marriage?
probably liberal California. how did that one turn out?
Try again.
LOL still delusional huh Fakey?
My numbers are right on. Yurting still, huh, Thanatos. I am glad you followed the good advice.
You do know NO ONE ever believes a thing that you post right? We all know you atre nothing but a lying piece of shit and that even includes the liberals like you.
Most of the states that put it up to a vote approve it. So what is the op talking about?
Her own little world....again.
In 28 out of 30 states where constitutional amendments or initiatives that define marriage as the union of a man and a woman were put on the ballot in a referendum, voters approved such amendments.
- I don't usually participate in threads re: Gay Marriage - because although I am thoroughly anti-Gay I don't think the Government has a right to dictate to these perverts who they can and can't marry. But did so on this one because I am interested in how media perceptions and polls warp reality.
I also find it highly amusing that chumps like Bodcea can't comprehend the most basic of data when confronted with it.
What part of 28 out of 30 did you not understand ? Perhaps it was the Man and WOman part ? I dunno - some people are just hopeless.
When was the last state-wide vote on gay marriage?
probably liberal California. how did that one turn out?
Wrong.
Even those of us in a sewer understand our Constitution
I find it highly unlikely that a shit shoveling shyster such as yourself is capable of comprehending much beyond his own narrow field of vision.
Some of the Worlds greatest legal minds have debated over our Constitution for generations, yet a cum guzzler such as yourself pretends to be an expert.
Quite frankly Norton - Trixie must be ashamed of you
You are wrong.
Our civil rights are not subject to the 'will of the people.'
now that's funny, the repubs bellow that misnomer constantly especially when it's not!I find it highly unlikely that a shit shoveling shyster such as yourself is capable of comprehending much beyond his own narrow field of vision.
Some of the Worlds greatest legal minds have debated over our Constitution for generations, yet a cum guzzler such as yourself pretends to be an expert.
Quite frankly Norton - Trixie must be ashamed of you
You are wrong.
Our civil rights are not subject to the 'will of the people.'
neither are constitutional rights but liberals have no problem claiming the will of the people when it suits their agenda.
