Why Do They Like Illegal Immigration ?

[wamose]

Illegal aliens are the enemy of the American worker, taxpayer and every social welfare program. Between illegal immigration and free trade, greedy businesses and lowlife Democrats have stacked the deck against our citizens.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

There's no question that many people in the US (mostly Democrats) like illegal immigration. They like it so much that they are willing to lie about it, or just shoot from the hip and make friendly statements about it, without examining the facts about it. Even worse, they take the word of illegal immigration friendly propagandists (masquerading as researchers), and run with whatever they say.

At the heart of much of this is what can be described in just 2 simple words >> VESTED INTERESTS. Yes, there are plenty out there who are very happy about our country being flooded with illegal aliens. Quite a few of them are right here in this forum, and we hear their illegal alien friendly talk all the time. But do we actually know what's motivating these people to support invading leeches to our country, who are harming it in a long list of ways ?

Usually not, because the VESTED INTEREST ones are careful to continually conceal their particular connection to the illegal immigration scenario. Occasionally, one may slip and blurt it out accidently. Here's a list of some of the most common VESTED INTERESTS that these traitors are consumed by.


List of US Vested Interests for Immigration

1. Businesses wanting cheap labor to boost their profits.

2. Churches wanting parishoners to fill their empty pews.

3. Unions wanting members to replace their declining memberships.

4. Spanish media NEEDING Spanish-only speakers.

5. Ethnocentrist organizations wanting immigrants to multiply their race, for racist reasons (ex. La Raza- "the race")

6. Democrats seek VOTES (and get them).

7. Terrorists come in to enact terrorism (ex. the 9-11 hijackers came in on visas)

8. Anchor baby parents who become LEGALLY entitled to welfare benefits by having the pregnant woman give birth on the American side of the border. And then help themselves to a lifetime of benefits (more immigrants are receiving welfare benefits than native-born Americans).

9. Personal relationships - some people are actually married to an illegal alien, or have family members who are. Others have developed friendships with illegals, over time.

10. Mexico - remittances$$$ from the USA are their second largest source of income (second only to their oil exports). Now $30 Billion/year. Mexico also benefits immensely by dumping their poor people on the US, as we then stupidly pay their poverty bill for them. Other countries also benefit from remittances and poverty dumping.

11. Mexico's "reconquista" of the American southwest. I take the Mexican govt at it's word, when it says that is exactly its plan.

Let's see if we can get any illegal immigration friendly posters to open up and state their special connection to the illegal immigration problem in America. This is an invitation. Come on VIs, what's your game ?

You have this bad habit of being dishonest. It's like I said the last time you tried to make one of these shotgun argument fallacies. They can be picked apart very easily.

Democrats want what you want. But, they also want total control over every aspect of your life. They know what will eventually fly in the United States Supreme Court and what is going to fall flat. If they need 10 percent of the vote to take out the Republicans, then the foreigner is their best friend. When they are firmly in place and you are the minority, then they want what you want:



When the Democrats take over again and get things going their way. They will crack down on immigration.

Obama Has Deported More People Than Any Other President

Trump may be getting closer to Obama's recent policy.

abcnews.go.com

In order for gun control (namely registration) to be a reality, the Democrats needed the National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify system. Otherwise, all that background check crap was a mere formality. So, they conned gullible xenophobes to work under Donald Trump and continue to build on the POLICE STATE.

The Democrats have but three constituencies to which they are loyal: the super rich, the blacks as they are easily manipulated into being willing slaves, and large corporations to help control their loyal subjects.

You've accused me of being one or more of the above - and repeatedly while never having the ethical standards OR the honesty to ASK ME my personal opinion on foreigners. I have to watch you be what the communists call a useful idiot and when I try to get honest dialogue from you, all you do is resort to this mantra that if people disagree with you, they are "for the illegals." This thread is a continuation of your cowardice and inability to handle the truth. Rest assured, you've done more to aid the foreigners through stupidity than the left has been able to accomplish on purpose. No wonder they just let people like you use your momentum to get the result you claim to be working against.

 

[SourKat]

There's no question that many people in the US (mostly Democrats) like illegal immigration. They like it so much that they are willing to lie about it, or just shoot from the hip and make friendly statements about it, without examining the facts about it. Even worse, they take the word of illegal immigration friendly propagandists (masquerading as researchers), and run with whatever they say.

At the heart of much of this is what can be described in just 2 simple words >> VESTED INTERESTS. Yes, there are plenty out there who are very happy about our country being flooded with illegal aliens. Quite a few of them are right here in this forum, and we hear their illegal alien friendly talk all the time. But do we actually know what's motivating these people to support invading leeches to our country, who are harming it in a long list of ways ?

Usually not, because the VESTED INTEREST ones are careful to continually conceal their particular connection to the illegal immigration scenario. Occasionally, one may slip and blurt it out accidently. Here's a list of some of the most common VESTED INTERESTS that these traitors are consumed by.


List of US Vested Interests for Immigration

1. Businesses wanting cheap labor to boost their profits.

2. Churches wanting parishoners to fill their empty pews.

3. Unions wanting members to replace their declining memberships.

4. Spanish media NEEDING Spanish-only speakers.

5. Ethnocentrist organizations wanting immigrants to multiply their race, for racist reasons (ex. La Raza- "the race")

6. Democrats seek VOTES (and get them).

7. Terrorists come in to enact terrorism (ex. the 9-11 hijackers came in on visas)

8. Anchor baby parents who become LEGALLY entitled to welfare benefits by having the pregnant woman give birth on the American side of the border. And then help themselves to a lifetime of benefits (more immigrants are receiving welfare benefits than native-born Americans).

9. Personal relationships - some people are actually married to an illegal alien, or have family members who are. Others have developed friendships with illegals, over time.

10. Mexico - remittances$$$ from the USA are their second largest source of income (second only to their oil exports). Now $30 Billion/year. Mexico also benefits immensely by dumping their poor people on the US, as we then stupidly pay their poverty bill for them. Other countries also benefit from remittances and poverty dumping.

11. Mexico's "reconquista" of the American southwest. I take the Mexican govt at it's word, when it says that is exactly its plan.

Let's see if we can get any illegal immigration friendly posters to open up and state their special connection to the illegal immigration problem in America. This is an invitation. Come on VIs, what's your game ?

#EndWhiteGenocide

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

This began during the Reagan administration, believe it or not. I've visited (stormed in angry as hell, actually) INS office in 1990. After being disgusted with the lack of response or enforcement on immigration laws. The boys at the INS office said the Reagan Admin back in the early 80's had puled their teeth and emasculated them enforcement wise. A Conservative republican set the stage for sanctuary cities...and years later, Americans losing their jobs and homes and living in the streets... Its time to reform our ENTIRE Political system and take out the social activism thing and make ALL politicians ACCOUNTABLE for their actions retroactively. Fair is fair.

I call Bullshit...It wasnt Ronald Reagan who allowed for illegals to be in the US, but the fucking liberals as usual who lied to Ron about a deal, between the President and Tipp(the whale) O'Neil. The Obese one came to President Reagan saying that if he would give amnesty to the 11 million illegals he would have congress give the money for the wall on our southern border. As history as proven time and again, the lying sack of shit, O'Neil didnt give the money and then California became Californication. Over and over the liberals have lied their asses off, to the point that instead of Jeb Bush, or other establishment Republicans who would just keel over so the Demoncraps could walk all over them, President Trump was elected just to give the Demons, the what for the US citizens have been wanting for a long time. You can thank your liberal selves for giving America the president it so needed...

 

[MaryL]

This began during the Reagan administration, believe it or not. I've visited (stormed in angry as hell, actually) INS office in 1990. After being disgusted with the lack of response or enforcement on immigration laws. The boys at the INS office said the Reagan Admin back in the early 80's had puled their teeth and emasculated them enforcement wise. A Conservative republican set the stage for sanctuary cities...and years later, Americans losing their jobs and homes and living in the streets... Its time to reform our ENTIRE Political system and take out the social activism thing and make ALL politicians ACCOUNTABLE for their actions retroactively. Fair is fair.

I call Bullshit...It wasnt Ronald Reagan who allowed for illegals to be in the US, but the fucking liberals as usual who lied to Ron about a deal, between the President and Tipp(the whale) O'Neil. The Obese one came to President Reagan saying that if he would give amnesty to the 11 million illegals he would have congress give the money for the wall on our southern border. As history as proven time and again, the lying sack of shit, O'Neil didnt give the money and then California became Californication. Over and over the liberals have lied their asses off, to the point that instead of Jeb Bush, or other establishment Republicans who would just keel over so the Demoncraps could walk all over them, President Trump was elected just to give the Demons, the what for the US citizens have been wanting for a long time. You can thank your liberal selves for giving America the president it so needed...

Calm down my bother, its painfully true. Take a deep breath. My takeaway is..I don't know. MY honest sincere takeaway now? Big business and PACs have co-oped our entire political system (and both parties) to the point it is broken and meaningless. But I still pretend, I vote. Where there is hope...

 

[Crepitus]

There's no question that many people in the US (mostly Democrats) like illegal immigration. They like it so much that they are willing to lie about it, or just shoot from the hip and make friendly statements about it, without examining the facts about it. Even worse, they take the word of illegal immigration friendly propagandists (masquerading as researchers), and run with whatever they say.

At the heart of much of this is what can be described in just 2 simple words >> VESTED INTERESTS. Yes, there are plenty out there who are very happy about our country being flooded with illegal aliens. Quite a few of them are right here in this forum, and we hear their illegal alien friendly talk all the time. But do we actually know what's motivating these people to support invading leeches to our country, who are harming it in a long list of ways ?

Usually not, because the VESTED INTEREST ones are careful to continually conceal their particular connection to the illegal immigration scenario. Occasionally, one may slip and blurt it out accidently. Here's a list of some of the most common VESTED INTERESTS that these traitors are consumed by.


List of US Vested Interests for Immigration

1. Businesses wanting cheap labor to boost their profits.

2. Churches wanting parishoners to fill their empty pews.

3. Unions wanting members to replace their declining memberships.

4. Spanish media NEEDING Spanish-only speakers.

5. Ethnocentrist organizations wanting immigrants to multiply their race, for racist reasons (ex. La Raza- "the race")

6. Democrats seek VOTES (and get them).

7. Terrorists come in to enact terrorism (ex. the 9-11 hijackers came in on visas)

8. Anchor baby parents who become LEGALLY entitled to welfare benefits by having the pregnant woman give birth on the American side of the border. And then help themselves to a lifetime of benefits (more immigrants are receiving welfare benefits than native-born Americans).

9. Personal relationships - some people are actually married to an illegal alien, or have family members who are. Others have developed friendships with illegals, over time.

10. Mexico - remittances$$$ from the USA are their second largest source of income (second only to their oil exports). Now $30 Billion/year. Mexico also benefits immensely by dumping their poor people on the US, as we then stupidly pay their poverty bill for them. Other countries also benefit from remittances and poverty dumping.

11. Mexico's "reconquista" of the American southwest. I take the Mexican govt at it's word, when it says that is exactly its plan.

Let's see if we can get any illegal immigration friendly posters to open up and state their special connection to the illegal immigration problem in America. This is an invitation. Come on VIs, what's your game ?

The only one of you silly little list that makes any sense is #1.

And those guys mostly ain't Democrats.

 

[Crepitus]

..It wasnt Ronald Reagan who allowed for illegals to be in the US,

Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Yeah, it was.

 

[MaryL]

After careful consideration: Both American political parties are empty facades, they BOTH pander and if you vote for EITHER, might as well just twiddle your thumbs. Empty and meaningless. After all the political shenanigans...sanctuary cities, this weird unprecedented lock down over a virulent but overall harmless flu bug, WHO is ACTUALLY running this place?

 

[Porter Rockwell]

This began during the Reagan administration, believe it or not. I've visited (stormed in angry as hell, actually) INS office in 1990. After being disgusted with the lack of response or enforcement on immigration laws. The boys at the INS office said the Reagan Admin back in the early 80's had puled their teeth and emasculated them enforcement wise. A Conservative republican set the stage for sanctuary cities...and years later, Americans losing their jobs and homes and living in the streets... Its time to reform our ENTIRE Political system and take out the social activism thing and make ALL politicians ACCOUNTABLE for their actions retroactively. Fair is fair.

I call Bullshit...It wasnt Ronald Reagan who allowed for illegals to be in the US, but the fucking liberals as usual who lied to Ron about a deal, between the President and Tipp(the whale) O'Neil. The Obese one came to President Reagan saying that if he would give amnesty to the 11 million illegals he would have congress give the money for the wall on our southern border. As history as proven time and again, the lying sack of shit, O'Neil didnt give the money and then California became Californication. Over and over the liberals have lied their asses off, to the point that instead of Jeb Bush, or other establishment Republicans who would just keel over so the Demoncraps could walk all over them, President Trump was elected just to give the Demons, the what for the US citizens have been wanting for a long time. You can thank your liberal selves for giving America the president it so needed...

Ronald Reagan was NOT for any wall:



What in the Hell has to happen before you hacks on both sides figure it out? The Democrats and Republicans are playing you on this issue.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

After careful consideration: Both American political parties are empty facades, they BOTH pander and if you vote for EITHER, might as well just twiddle your thumbs. Empty and meaningless. After all the political shenanigans...sanctuary cities, this weird unprecedented lock down over a virulent but overall harmless flu bug, WHO is ACTUALLY running this place?

Major corporations are running the country. The politicians have become mere figureheads. First one side is winning, then the people vote the opposite party is winning, but at the end of the day what we, the people want is the LAST thing either party is concerned with. They are telling you what you want to hear. Change is only going to come from the grass roots level by people dedicated to exhausting all of their nonviolent legal and political avenues of redress, including, but not limited to: passive resistance, boycotting the system and supporting those of like mind; exiting the system, getting off the grid; civil disobedience (refusing to obey unconstitutional laws.)

The more you beg the government to help you, the more they are going to screw you. Sometimes you will have to support laws that, in the short term do not favor your position, but over the long haul will give you what you want. It's all about strategies and thinking as if you are fighting a bigger opponent. You take on a bigger opponent with political judo. You don't duke it out with someone bigger than you. You use their momentum against them. Government is not your friend on this subject.

 

[talksalot]

Democrats are building their base. When they get enough power, they will grant illegals the right to vote and that will be the end of the two-party system.
There are way too many illegals and dead people voting already.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

Democrats are building their base. When they get enough power, they will grant illegals the right to vote and that will be the end of the two-party system.
There are way too many illegals and dead people voting already.

"Illegals" don't vote. People vote. The objective of the government, regardless of party label, is to disenfranchise the Posterity of the founders and framers. Once you end the bloodline of the people who created our form of government, you have another third world cesspool with the wealth that previous generations built for the super rich. The politicians want the third world to take over. Trying to make it politically palatable by doing something stupid like calling people "illegal" hides the ugly truth. You give citizenship to someone who supports socialism, they are doing this country harm. We give citizenship to more than 750,000 people per year. We don't need them - sticking a label like "illegal" on some of them only says you don't know squat about Liberty. We don't need any more people becoming citizens in this country at the present time, so the "legal" v. "illegal" labels are meaningless in the context of immigration... NOT so much for the cause of Liberty.

 

[protectionist]

The only one of you silly little list that makes any sense is #1.

And those guys mostly ain't Democrats.

This is how far off course deep in denial Democrats have gotten. I wonder if they even really have any sense of their own pathology.

Dude, your posts are good for a laugh,

 

[protectionist]

..It wasnt Ronald Reagan who allowed for illegals to be in the US,

Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Yeah, it was.

Right now, support for illegal immigration is from both Democrats, and a few Republicans. Overwhelmingly though, it is Democrats, as recent congressional votes on sanctuary cities and the wall clearly show.

 

[protectionist]

After careful consideration: Both American political parties are empty facades, they BOTH pander and if you vote for EITHER, might as well just twiddle your thumbs. Empty and meaningless. After all the political shenanigans...sanctuary cities, this weird unprecedented lock down over a virulent but overall harmless flu bug, WHO is ACTUALLY running this place?

I wouldn't call a virus that in a few months has killed twice as many Americans as died in the Vietnam War, "overall harmless". It's also not correct to equate both parties in supporting illegal immigration. Generally, it is a Democrat thing.

 

[candycorn]

Those lawns are not going to mow themselves.

Try getting off your liberal fat ass, and mow your own fucking lawn. Getting out in the fresh air, and sunshine helps fight against the Wuhan virus.

I got a better idea, how about you go fuck youself, loser.

 

[protectionist]

Going to tell us what your VESTED INTEREST is ? You don't have to choose from the OP list. Maybe you have a different one ?

 

[candycorn]

Going to tell us what your VESTED INTEREST is ? You don't have to choose from the OP list. Maybe you have a different one ?

My curiosity is wondering why morons like yourself continue to believe that illegal aliens vote.

 

[protectionist]

My curiosity is wondering why morons like yourself continue to believe that illegal aliens vote.

Liberal OMISSION media (CNN, MSNBC, PBS, NYT, WaPo, etc) has got information-deprived liberals so in the dark, that in 2020, after years of hundreds of research reports, NEVER even whispered on the liberal media, ignorant liberals still are clueless. Sad.

Here's a small fraction of the reports >>>

Poll: 13% of Illegal Aliens ADMIT They Vote - California Political Review

https://publicinterestlegal.org/files/Report_Alien-Invasion-in-Virginia.pdf

Study supports Trump: 5.7 million noncitizens may have cast illegal votes

Nevada Sec. State: DMV Instructed Employees To Register Non-Citizens To Vote

Texas Democrats ask noncitizens to register to vote

https://publicinterestlegal.org/files/Safe-Spaces_Final.pdf

Finally Proof of Illegal Alien Voting

Noncitizens, Voting Violations and U.S. Elections | Federation for American Immigration Reform

Illegal Aliens Really Do Vote – a Lot

https://publicinterestlegal.org/files/Philadelphia-Litigation-Report.pdf

Exclusive: Florida Investigating Potential Non-Citizen Voters

So I'll take that as a NO, you're not going to tell us what your VESTED INTEREST is.
10-4.

 

[candycorn]

My curiosity is wondering why morons like yourself continue to believe that illegal aliens vote.

Liberal OMISSION media (CNN, MSNBC, PBS, NYT, WaPo, etc) has got information-deprived liberals so in the dark, that in 2020, after years of hundreds of research reports, NEVER even whispered on the liberal media, ignorant liberals still are clueless. Sad.

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Here's a small fraction of the reports >>>

Poll: 13% of Illegal Aliens ADMIT They Vote - California Political Review

https://publicinterestlegal.org/files/Report_Alien-Invasion-in-Virginia.pdf

Study supports Trump: 5.7 million noncitizens may have cast illegal votes

Nevada Sec. State: DMV Instructed Employees To Register Non-Citizens To Vote

Texas Democrats ask noncitizens to register to vote

https://publicinterestlegal.org/files/Safe-Spaces_Final.pdf

Finally Proof of Illegal Alien Voting

Noncitizens, Voting Violations and U.S. Elections | Federation for American Immigration Reform

Illegal Aliens Really Do Vote – a Lot

https://publicinterestlegal.org/files/Philadelphia-Litigation-Report.pdf

Exclusive: Florida Investigating Potential Non-Citizen Voters

So I'll take that as a NO, you're not going to tell us what your VESTED INTEREST is.
10-4.

I looked at the links. Most are pure right wing garbage that you trot out in a lame attempt to prove something. The ones that are not garbage report very little actual illegal voting is taking place. Being on the voter rolls doesn't mean that one is voting. The estimate--estimate---is 528,000 votes were cast out of something like 140 million. As the piece states (fairus.org), the true numbers are not known.

Again, morons like yourself are just conspiracy nuts.

That being said, I see absolutely nothing wrong with having a national voter ID card that you must present when you cast a ballot in person.