Why do you MORONS keep insisting that Hillary won something?

[WaitingFor2020]

Pretty much everyone agrees you can't rig a national election in favor of any one candidate due to the non-centralized nature of our system.

WTF? First you claim the RUSSIANS rigged this election and now you're claiming it can't be done. There is a certain point in these threads where you are almost ready to see the light, and then you slam the window shut....followed by subject-changes, requests for links you won't read, and then you vanish and come back later to throw more chaff. You're a mod or some of us wouldn't be so civil in our replies to you....just sayin.

Did she really say the Russians rigged the election????

What a dope.

She's battin' below the Mendoza Line.

No. I never said Russians rigged the election. I challenge Mr. Horn to put up the evidence.

I said, and maintain, that the Russians were behind the hacking efforts and attempted to influence or disrupt the election. There is no way to ascertain whether it did or to what degree it did. That is all water under the bridge.

I've also said - repeatedly - there is no way to rig an entire presidential election to the non-centralized nature of our electoral process.

Now, Tom Horn - care to put up evidence for your claim? Or, is this just an attempt to attack the speaker because you don't have the evidence to effectively attack the argument?

"I said, and maintain, that the Russians were behind the hacking efforts and attempted to influence or disrupt the election. There is no way to ascertain whether it did or to what degree it did."

Of course there is....

....the proof that this 'fake news' tale of Russia changing the course of our election....

a. The day before any leaks, wikileaks or otherwise, the RealClearPolitics had Hillary at 48%

b. The election result gave Hillary 48.08% per the election.


Soooo......where is any....ANY....result due to Russia, Putin, Wiki, or Mickey Mouse????



Mendoza Line again.

Deflection #4: retarget argument to Russian Hackers
Fallacy #1: Fallacy: Personal Attack

Where is there any actual evidence of large numbers illegals voting for Clinton and winning her the popular vote?

Check.

She hasn't provided that. She's conjecturing that due to CA's large population of illegal immigrants there must, MUST, MUST be a huge number of Mexicans who voted for Hillary.

 

[Tom Horn]

If I said it in numerous threads you can easily find it. I'll own my remarks - I know what I have said and believe, and rigging elections is laughable to claim by either side. If you can't provide evidence, I'll assume you are a liar and a chicken shit Tom Horn.

Okay, fine....HAPPY NEW YEAR!

 

[jon_berzerk]

rigging elections= democratic super delegates

--LOL

for starters

--LOL

 

[TheDude]

seek help liberals. You need it.

 

[Ame®icano]

Obama NEVER told illegals to vote. There. You've been disputed.

Still reasoning like 8 year old.

 

[Ame®icano]

Not that it makes a bit of difference...there's no evidence they voted. Let's stick to facts.

Leftist fact: Trump is a clown.

 

[Coyote]

Obama NEVER told illegals to vote. There. You've been disputed.

Still reasoning like 8 year old.

And these tweets have what to do with Obama supposedly telling illegals to vote...

 

[Coyote]

rigging elections= democratic super delegates

--LOL

for starters

--LOL

Primaries are completely different than the General Election.

Evidence of rigging?

 

[Coyote]

If I said it in numerous threads you can easily find it. I'll own my remarks - I know what I have said and believe, and rigging elections is laughable to claim by either side. If you can't provide evidence, I'll assume you are a liar and a chicken shit Tom Horn.

Okay, fine....HAPPY NEW YEAR!

 

[Ame®icano]

Obama NEVER told illegals to vote. There. You've been disputed.

Still reasoning like 8 year old.

And these tweets have what to do with Obama supposedly telling illegals to vote...

When leftist wan't to make a point, they call on what some "8 year old" said. That's reasoning leftists are using when they defend their positions. That's the level of reasoning leftists are using when they're defending their positions on this board as well.

Take your post where you said there is no evidence that illegals voted and finished the statement with "lets stick to facts". You saying something out of your ass doesn't make it a fact. It's still just you stating something out of your ass. And THAT is, my friend, an indisputable fact.

 

[regent]

The bottom line is that more electors wanted Trump and more Americans wanted Hillary.

 

[Ame®icano]

The bottom line is that more electors wanted Trump and more Americans wanted Hillary.

The bottom line is that United States are republic instead of democracy.

 

[Flash]

Glad you asked!


"Richman was the co-author of a 2014 study that looked at noncitizen voting in the 2008 and 2010 elections. In the comparable presidential election year, the Old Dominion study determined 6.4 percent on noncitizens in the United States voted in the 2008 presidential election, and about 81 percent of those voters backed Democrat Barack Obama."
http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-con...tizens-Vote-in-US-Elections-Richman-et-al.pdf


That rounds out to about 1 and a third million votes....


...and that was at a time when the issue was simply Barack Obama.

Now...when their future in America was at stake...and Obama telling then that there was no penalty for breaking the law.....heck, at least twice as many voted.


Now....if 6.4 percent on noncitizens in the United States voted last time

....and now
a. their icon, Obama, told them to vote and not be concerned that there would be any penalty (as per the video)

and...

b. the central issue in Trump's campaign was throwing them out of the nation that they invaded....


....ya' think maybe 13.2%....or 17.6%.....or more of 'em voted??????


You betcha'!!!!!!!


Trump won both the EC and the popular vote.

Trump’s Claims About Illegal Votes Are Nonsense. I Debunked the Study He Cites as ‘Evidence.’

Donald Trump is making news with his false claim that he would have won the national popular vote if millions of non-citizens had not voted in November. As evidence, he and his staff are pointing to a study by Jesse Richman and his co-authors that was published in the journal Electoral Studies and advertised on the Washington Post’s Monkey Cage blog. As a member of the team that produces the datasets upon which that study was based and as the co-author of an article published in the same journal that provides a clear “take down” of the study in question, I can say unequivocally that this research is not only wrong, it is irresponsible social science and should never have been published in the first place. There is no evidence that non-citizens have voted in recent U.S. elections.

...Indeed, it took me and my colleagues only a few hours to figure out why the authors’ findings were wrong and to produce the evidence needed to prove as much. The authors were essentially basing their claims on two pieces of data associated with the large survey—a question that asks people whether they are citizens and official vote records to which each respondent has been matched to determine whether he or she had voted. Both these pieces of information include some small amounts of measurement error, as is true of all survey questions. What the authors failed to consider is that measurement error was entirely responsible for their results. In fact, once my colleagues and I accounted for that error, we found that there were essentially zero non-citizens who voted in recent elections.​

Now, review what "proof" actually is. It's not the Richman study.

Check.

Did you have to PROVE how stupid you are?????

Politico.....????

The source that sent its articles to Podesta for his OK??????


"#PodestaEmails: Politico journalist seeks OK from Clinton before running story"
#PodestaEmails: Politico journalist seeks OK from Clinton before running story

A few more articles to lay to rest your extremely weak thesis:

AP fact check: How do Trump's voter fraud allegations hold up?

Trump’s charge that he actually won the popular vote if the “millions of people who voted illegally” had not been counted mimics one posted on Infowars.com, a conservative website that traffics in conspiracy theories.​

Trump's Bogus Voter Fraud Claims - FactCheck.org

In Wisconsin, Trump cited a 2014 Washington Post article titled “Could non-citizens decide the November election?” It was a piece penned by Old Dominion University professors Jesse Richman and David Earnest about research the two later published in the journal Electoral Studies. It turns out to be a disputed and very controversial study.

Trump accurately quotes from the blog post. But the authors’ results are contested by a number of academics, including those who administer and manage the data on which it is based.​

Fact check: Trump sticks with bogus voter fraud claims

“Their finding is entirely due to measurement error,” one of the authors, Stephen Ansolabehere of Harvard and the principal investigator of the Cooperative Congressional Election Study, told us. “Measurement errors happen. People accidentally check the wrong box in surveys. The rate of such errors in the CCES is very small, but such errors do happen. And when they do happen on a question such as citizenship, researchers can easily draw the wrong inference about voting behaviors. Richman and Earnest extrapolate from a handful of wrongfully classified cases (of non-citizens).”
Study cited as proof of vote fraud by Trump team misinterpreted, author says

Even if we assume the Richman and Earnest study is correct, Richman told us that it does not back Trump’s claim that noncitizen voting swung the popular vote in favor of Clinton.​

My turn?

Here's another one you can't answer:

Pop-Quiz!


Now....first the reading comprehension part of the test:


"12 States (and DC) That Allow Driver's Licenses for People in the Country Illegally" 12 States (and DC) That Allow Driver's Licenses for People in the Country Illegally - Illegal Immigration - ProCon.org



LA Times:
"If you’ve visited the DMV in the last few weeks, you may have noticed that you can now complete your voter registration at the same time you renew your driver’s license — without having to fill out a separate form.... they will be registered as having no party preference. " Registered to vote at the DMV? Check again. Many who use the new process miss a vital step two



Ready?


How many of the 12 states plus DC that allow illegals to get drivers licenses, and have voter registration in the same place (what a coincidence!) did Bill's wife win???


C'mon....guess.

Post Analysis: Diversionary Tactic #2 - wow them by making a connection with iIllegal aliens getting drivers license and implying high numbers of Illegals voting.

FALSE: California Passed a Law Allowing Undocumented Immigrants to Vote in Federal Elections

While it's true that undocumented people in California can obtain a driver's license, the state has not passed any laws which also gives them the right to vote. The New Motor Voter Act was passed in an effort to improve voter turnout, and while this law does automatically register citizens to vote when obtaining or renewing a driver's license, this only applies to citizens who are already eligible to vote.
​

Why undocumented immigrants won’t take advantage of ‘motor voter’ law: Thomas Elias

Many Republicans predicted trouble the moment Gov. Jerry Brown signed the new measure into law last fall, with GOP activists predicting it would lead to state-sanctioned voter fraud and flood the voting rolls with non-citizens.

But this has not happened yet and probably never will.

That’s because the same rules that prevent undocumented immigrants from receiving the same type of California driver’s license as citizens or legal residents will apply to everyone automatically registered to vote during visits to Department of Motor Vehicles offices.

The new law registers every eligible Californian who goes to the DMV to get or renew a driver’s license. Once Secretary of State Alex Padilla sets up a specific procedure to be followed in all offices, every eligible person who doesn’t opt out will be registered.​

Still no actual evidence.

Check.

You are confused Moon Bat.

California didn't say that the fucking illegals could vote. However, between giving the assholes driver's licenses and having lax voter ID requirements then millions of them were defacto allowed to vote. That is how Crooked Hillary won the popular vote in a state crammed with illegals that hated Trump..

 

[Coyote]

Trump’s Claims About Illegal Votes Are Nonsense. I Debunked the Study He Cites as ‘Evidence.’

Donald Trump is making news with his false claim that he would have won the national popular vote if millions of non-citizens had not voted in November. As evidence, he and his staff are pointing to a study by Jesse Richman and his co-authors that was published in the journal Electoral Studies and advertised on the Washington Post’s Monkey Cage blog. As a member of the team that produces the datasets upon which that study was based and as the co-author of an article published in the same journal that provides a clear “take down” of the study in question, I can say unequivocally that this research is not only wrong, it is irresponsible social science and should never have been published in the first place. There is no evidence that non-citizens have voted in recent U.S. elections.

...Indeed, it took me and my colleagues only a few hours to figure out why the authors’ findings were wrong and to produce the evidence needed to prove as much. The authors were essentially basing their claims on two pieces of data associated with the large survey—a question that asks people whether they are citizens and official vote records to which each respondent has been matched to determine whether he or she had voted. Both these pieces of information include some small amounts of measurement error, as is true of all survey questions. What the authors failed to consider is that measurement error was entirely responsible for their results. In fact, once my colleagues and I accounted for that error, we found that there were essentially zero non-citizens who voted in recent elections.​

Now, review what "proof" actually is. It's not the Richman study.

Check.

Did you have to PROVE how stupid you are?????

Politico.....????

The source that sent its articles to Podesta for his OK??????


"#PodestaEmails: Politico journalist seeks OK from Clinton before running story"
#PodestaEmails: Politico journalist seeks OK from Clinton before running story

A few more articles to lay to rest your extremely weak thesis:

AP fact check: How do Trump's voter fraud allegations hold up?

Trump’s charge that he actually won the popular vote if the “millions of people who voted illegally” had not been counted mimics one posted on Infowars.com, a conservative website that traffics in conspiracy theories.​

Trump's Bogus Voter Fraud Claims - FactCheck.org

In Wisconsin, Trump cited a 2014 Washington Post article titled “Could non-citizens decide the November election?” It was a piece penned by Old Dominion University professors Jesse Richman and David Earnest about research the two later published in the journal Electoral Studies. It turns out to be a disputed and very controversial study.

Trump accurately quotes from the blog post. But the authors’ results are contested by a number of academics, including those who administer and manage the data on which it is based.​

Fact check: Trump sticks with bogus voter fraud claims

“Their finding is entirely due to measurement error,” one of the authors, Stephen Ansolabehere of Harvard and the principal investigator of the Cooperative Congressional Election Study, told us. “Measurement errors happen. People accidentally check the wrong box in surveys. The rate of such errors in the CCES is very small, but such errors do happen. And when they do happen on a question such as citizenship, researchers can easily draw the wrong inference about voting behaviors. Richman and Earnest extrapolate from a handful of wrongfully classified cases (of non-citizens).”
Study cited as proof of vote fraud by Trump team misinterpreted, author says

Even if we assume the Richman and Earnest study is correct, Richman told us that it does not back Trump’s claim that noncitizen voting swung the popular vote in favor of Clinton.​

My turn?

Here's another one you can't answer:

Pop-Quiz!


Now....first the reading comprehension part of the test:


"12 States (and DC) That Allow Driver's Licenses for People in the Country Illegally" 12 States (and DC) That Allow Driver's Licenses for People in the Country Illegally - Illegal Immigration - ProCon.org



LA Times:
"If you’ve visited the DMV in the last few weeks, you may have noticed that you can now complete your voter registration at the same time you renew your driver’s license — without having to fill out a separate form.... they will be registered as having no party preference. " Registered to vote at the DMV? Check again. Many who use the new process miss a vital step two



Ready?


How many of the 12 states plus DC that allow illegals to get drivers licenses, and have voter registration in the same place (what a coincidence!) did Bill's wife win???


C'mon....guess.

Post Analysis: Diversionary Tactic #2 - wow them by making a connection with iIllegal aliens getting drivers license and implying high numbers of Illegals voting.

FALSE: California Passed a Law Allowing Undocumented Immigrants to Vote in Federal Elections

While it's true that undocumented people in California can obtain a driver's license, the state has not passed any laws which also gives them the right to vote. The New Motor Voter Act was passed in an effort to improve voter turnout, and while this law does automatically register citizens to vote when obtaining or renewing a driver's license, this only applies to citizens who are already eligible to vote.
​

Why undocumented immigrants won’t take advantage of ‘motor voter’ law: Thomas Elias

Many Republicans predicted trouble the moment Gov. Jerry Brown signed the new measure into law last fall, with GOP activists predicting it would lead to state-sanctioned voter fraud and flood the voting rolls with non-citizens.

But this has not happened yet and probably never will.

That’s because the same rules that prevent undocumented immigrants from receiving the same type of California driver’s license as citizens or legal residents will apply to everyone automatically registered to vote during visits to Department of Motor Vehicles offices.

The new law registers every eligible Californian who goes to the DMV to get or renew a driver’s license. Once Secretary of State Alex Padilla sets up a specific procedure to be followed in all offices, every eligible person who doesn’t opt out will be registered.​

Still no actual evidence.

Check.

You are confused Moon Bat.

California didn't say that the fucking illegals could vote. However, between giving the assholes driver's licenses and having lax voter ID requirements then millions of them were defacto allowed to vote. That is how Crooked Hillary won the popular vote in a state crammed with illegals that hated Trump..

Did you miss the part that the drivers licenses issued to illegals look different? Exactly how do all these illegals (400,000 more or less) get registered to vote? Quite a stretch for you guys, and still no evidence. Only conjecture.

 

[Flash]

Did you have to PROVE how stupid you are?????

Politico.....????

The source that sent its articles to Podesta for his OK??????


"#PodestaEmails: Politico journalist seeks OK from Clinton before running story"
#PodestaEmails: Politico journalist seeks OK from Clinton before running story

A few more articles to lay to rest your extremely weak thesis:

AP fact check: How do Trump's voter fraud allegations hold up?

Trump’s charge that he actually won the popular vote if the “millions of people who voted illegally” had not been counted mimics one posted on Infowars.com, a conservative website that traffics in conspiracy theories.​

Trump's Bogus Voter Fraud Claims - FactCheck.org

In Wisconsin, Trump cited a 2014 Washington Post article titled “Could non-citizens decide the November election?” It was a piece penned by Old Dominion University professors Jesse Richman and David Earnest about research the two later published in the journal Electoral Studies. It turns out to be a disputed and very controversial study.

Trump accurately quotes from the blog post. But the authors’ results are contested by a number of academics, including those who administer and manage the data on which it is based.​

Fact check: Trump sticks with bogus voter fraud claims

“Their finding is entirely due to measurement error,” one of the authors, Stephen Ansolabehere of Harvard and the principal investigator of the Cooperative Congressional Election Study, told us. “Measurement errors happen. People accidentally check the wrong box in surveys. The rate of such errors in the CCES is very small, but such errors do happen. And when they do happen on a question such as citizenship, researchers can easily draw the wrong inference about voting behaviors. Richman and Earnest extrapolate from a handful of wrongfully classified cases (of non-citizens).”
Study cited as proof of vote fraud by Trump team misinterpreted, author says

Even if we assume the Richman and Earnest study is correct, Richman told us that it does not back Trump’s claim that noncitizen voting swung the popular vote in favor of Clinton.​

My turn?

Here's another one you can't answer:

Pop-Quiz!


Now....first the reading comprehension part of the test:


"12 States (and DC) That Allow Driver's Licenses for People in the Country Illegally" 12 States (and DC) That Allow Driver's Licenses for People in the Country Illegally - Illegal Immigration - ProCon.org



LA Times:
"If you’ve visited the DMV in the last few weeks, you may have noticed that you can now complete your voter registration at the same time you renew your driver’s license — without having to fill out a separate form.... they will be registered as having no party preference. " Registered to vote at the DMV? Check again. Many who use the new process miss a vital step two



Ready?


How many of the 12 states plus DC that allow illegals to get drivers licenses, and have voter registration in the same place (what a coincidence!) did Bill's wife win???


C'mon....guess.

Post Analysis: Diversionary Tactic #2 - wow them by making a connection with iIllegal aliens getting drivers license and implying high numbers of Illegals voting.

FALSE: California Passed a Law Allowing Undocumented Immigrants to Vote in Federal Elections

While it's true that undocumented people in California can obtain a driver's license, the state has not passed any laws which also gives them the right to vote. The New Motor Voter Act was passed in an effort to improve voter turnout, and while this law does automatically register citizens to vote when obtaining or renewing a driver's license, this only applies to citizens who are already eligible to vote.
​

Why undocumented immigrants won’t take advantage of ‘motor voter’ law: Thomas Elias

Many Republicans predicted trouble the moment Gov. Jerry Brown signed the new measure into law last fall, with GOP activists predicting it would lead to state-sanctioned voter fraud and flood the voting rolls with non-citizens.

But this has not happened yet and probably never will.

That’s because the same rules that prevent undocumented immigrants from receiving the same type of California driver’s license as citizens or legal residents will apply to everyone automatically registered to vote during visits to Department of Motor Vehicles offices.

The new law registers every eligible Californian who goes to the DMV to get or renew a driver’s license. Once Secretary of State Alex Padilla sets up a specific procedure to be followed in all offices, every eligible person who doesn’t opt out will be registered.​

Still no actual evidence.

Check.

You are confused Moon Bat.

California didn't say that the fucking illegals could vote. However, between giving the assholes driver's licenses and having lax voter ID requirements then millions of them were defacto allowed to vote. That is how Crooked Hillary won the popular vote in a state crammed with illegals that hated Trump..

Did you miss the part that the drivers licenses issued to illegals look different? Exactly how do all these illegals (400,000 more or less) get registered to vote? Quite a stretch for you guys, and still no evidence. Only conjecture.

You Moon Bats always have a difficult time connecting even the simplest string of dots, don't you?

IDs issued to non citizens
Lax voter identification laws in a state run by filthy ass Democrats
Millions of Illegals hating Trump

Not difficult dots to connect are they? Well maybe they are if you are a stupid Libtard Moon Bat.

 

[Coyote]

A few more articles to lay to rest your extremely weak thesis:

AP fact check: How do Trump's voter fraud allegations hold up?

Trump’s charge that he actually won the popular vote if the “millions of people who voted illegally” had not been counted mimics one posted on Infowars.com, a conservative website that traffics in conspiracy theories.​

Trump's Bogus Voter Fraud Claims - FactCheck.org

In Wisconsin, Trump cited a 2014 Washington Post article titled “Could non-citizens decide the November election?” It was a piece penned by Old Dominion University professors Jesse Richman and David Earnest about research the two later published in the journal Electoral Studies. It turns out to be a disputed and very controversial study.

Trump accurately quotes from the blog post. But the authors’ results are contested by a number of academics, including those who administer and manage the data on which it is based.​

Fact check: Trump sticks with bogus voter fraud claims

“Their finding is entirely due to measurement error,” one of the authors, Stephen Ansolabehere of Harvard and the principal investigator of the Cooperative Congressional Election Study, told us. “Measurement errors happen. People accidentally check the wrong box in surveys. The rate of such errors in the CCES is very small, but such errors do happen. And when they do happen on a question such as citizenship, researchers can easily draw the wrong inference about voting behaviors. Richman and Earnest extrapolate from a handful of wrongfully classified cases (of non-citizens).”
Study cited as proof of vote fraud by Trump team misinterpreted, author says

Even if we assume the Richman and Earnest study is correct, Richman told us that it does not back Trump’s claim that noncitizen voting swung the popular vote in favor of Clinton.​

My turn?

Here's another one you can't answer:

Pop-Quiz!


Now....first the reading comprehension part of the test:


"12 States (and DC) That Allow Driver's Licenses for People in the Country Illegally" 12 States (and DC) That Allow Driver's Licenses for People in the Country Illegally - Illegal Immigration - ProCon.org



LA Times:
"If you’ve visited the DMV in the last few weeks, you may have noticed that you can now complete your voter registration at the same time you renew your driver’s license — without having to fill out a separate form.... they will be registered as having no party preference. " Registered to vote at the DMV? Check again. Many who use the new process miss a vital step two



Ready?


How many of the 12 states plus DC that allow illegals to get drivers licenses, and have voter registration in the same place (what a coincidence!) did Bill's wife win???


C'mon....guess.

Post Analysis: Diversionary Tactic #2 - wow them by making a connection with iIllegal aliens getting drivers license and implying high numbers of Illegals voting.

FALSE: California Passed a Law Allowing Undocumented Immigrants to Vote in Federal Elections

While it's true that undocumented people in California can obtain a driver's license, the state has not passed any laws which also gives them the right to vote. The New Motor Voter Act was passed in an effort to improve voter turnout, and while this law does automatically register citizens to vote when obtaining or renewing a driver's license, this only applies to citizens who are already eligible to vote.
​

Why undocumented immigrants won’t take advantage of ‘motor voter’ law: Thomas Elias

Many Republicans predicted trouble the moment Gov. Jerry Brown signed the new measure into law last fall, with GOP activists predicting it would lead to state-sanctioned voter fraud and flood the voting rolls with non-citizens.

But this has not happened yet and probably never will.

That’s because the same rules that prevent undocumented immigrants from receiving the same type of California driver’s license as citizens or legal residents will apply to everyone automatically registered to vote during visits to Department of Motor Vehicles offices.

The new law registers every eligible Californian who goes to the DMV to get or renew a driver’s license. Once Secretary of State Alex Padilla sets up a specific procedure to be followed in all offices, every eligible person who doesn’t opt out will be registered.​

Still no actual evidence.

Check.

You are confused Moon Bat.

California didn't say that the fucking illegals could vote. However, between giving the assholes driver's licenses and having lax voter ID requirements then millions of them were defacto allowed to vote. That is how Crooked Hillary won the popular vote in a state crammed with illegals that hated Trump..

Did you miss the part that the drivers licenses issued to illegals look different? Exactly how do all these illegals (400,000 more or less) get registered to vote? Quite a stretch for you guys, and still no evidence. Only conjecture.

You Moon Bats always have a difficult time connecting even the simplest string of dots, don't you?

IDs issued to non citizens
Lax voter identification laws in a state run by filthy ass Democrats
Millions of Illegals hating Trump

Not difficult dots to connect are they? Well maybe they are if you are a stupid Libtard Moon Bat.

Again, you have to prove that your dots connect in the way you claim.

ID's issued to non-citizens DON'T put them on the voting registry.

If they AREN'T on the voting registry...how are they going to vote?

I anticipate a new conspiracy theory that somehow illegals got the names of all the dead and moved on voters still left on municipal voting rolls and 400,000 of them flooded the precincts and voted...and didn't get caught...oh this is good.






Maybe, like the lefties need to accept Trump won the election, you guys need to accept that he didn't win the popular vote.

 

[Coyote]

Obama NEVER told illegals to vote. There. You've been disputed.

Still reasoning like 8 year old.

And these tweets have what to do with Obama supposedly telling illegals to vote...

When leftist wan't to make a point, they call on what some "8 year old" said. That's reasoning leftists are using when they defend their positions. That's the level of reasoning leftists are using when they're defending their positions on this board as well.

Take your post where you said there is no evidence that illegals voted and finished the statement with "lets stick to facts". You saying something out of your ass doesn't make it a fact. It's still just you stating something out of your ass. And THAT is, my friend, an indisputable fact.

Except, I don't state something out of my ass. I provide sources to back it up. I've also provide sources to discredit your claims. Now thus far, all you've managed to do is...provide conjecture, not refute either sources or claims. Who's pulling what out of who's ass?

 

[sartre play]

She won the popular vote. that's all she won. but that's what she won. move on.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Did you have to PROVE how stupid you are?????

Politico.....????

The source that sent its articles to Podesta for his OK??????


"#PodestaEmails: Politico journalist seeks OK from Clinton before running story"
#PodestaEmails: Politico journalist seeks OK from Clinton before running story

A few more articles to lay to rest your extremely weak thesis:

AP fact check: How do Trump's voter fraud allegations hold up?

Trump’s charge that he actually won the popular vote if the “millions of people who voted illegally” had not been counted mimics one posted on Infowars.com, a conservative website that traffics in conspiracy theories.​

Trump's Bogus Voter Fraud Claims - FactCheck.org

In Wisconsin, Trump cited a 2014 Washington Post article titled “Could non-citizens decide the November election?” It was a piece penned by Old Dominion University professors Jesse Richman and David Earnest about research the two later published in the journal Electoral Studies. It turns out to be a disputed and very controversial study.

Trump accurately quotes from the blog post. But the authors’ results are contested by a number of academics, including those who administer and manage the data on which it is based.​

Fact check: Trump sticks with bogus voter fraud claims

“Their finding is entirely due to measurement error,” one of the authors, Stephen Ansolabehere of Harvard and the principal investigator of the Cooperative Congressional Election Study, told us. “Measurement errors happen. People accidentally check the wrong box in surveys. The rate of such errors in the CCES is very small, but such errors do happen. And when they do happen on a question such as citizenship, researchers can easily draw the wrong inference about voting behaviors. Richman and Earnest extrapolate from a handful of wrongfully classified cases (of non-citizens).”
Study cited as proof of vote fraud by Trump team misinterpreted, author says

Even if we assume the Richman and Earnest study is correct, Richman told us that it does not back Trump’s claim that noncitizen voting swung the popular vote in favor of Clinton.​

My turn?

Here's another one you can't answer:

Pop-Quiz!


Now....first the reading comprehension part of the test:


"12 States (and DC) That Allow Driver's Licenses for People in the Country Illegally" 12 States (and DC) That Allow Driver's Licenses for People in the Country Illegally - Illegal Immigration - ProCon.org



LA Times:
"If you’ve visited the DMV in the last few weeks, you may have noticed that you can now complete your voter registration at the same time you renew your driver’s license — without having to fill out a separate form.... they will be registered as having no party preference. " Registered to vote at the DMV? Check again. Many who use the new process miss a vital step two



Ready?


How many of the 12 states plus DC that allow illegals to get drivers licenses, and have voter registration in the same place (what a coincidence!) did Bill's wife win???


C'mon....guess.

Post Analysis: Diversionary Tactic #2 - wow them by making a connection with iIllegal aliens getting drivers license and implying high numbers of Illegals voting.

FALSE: California Passed a Law Allowing Undocumented Immigrants to Vote in Federal Elections

While it's true that undocumented people in California can obtain a driver's license, the state has not passed any laws which also gives them the right to vote. The New Motor Voter Act was passed in an effort to improve voter turnout, and while this law does automatically register citizens to vote when obtaining or renewing a driver's license, this only applies to citizens who are already eligible to vote.
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Why undocumented immigrants won’t take advantage of ‘motor voter’ law: Thomas Elias

Many Republicans predicted trouble the moment Gov. Jerry Brown signed the new measure into law last fall, with GOP activists predicting it would lead to state-sanctioned voter fraud and flood the voting rolls with non-citizens.

But this has not happened yet and probably never will.

That’s because the same rules that prevent undocumented immigrants from receiving the same type of California driver’s license as citizens or legal residents will apply to everyone automatically registered to vote during visits to Department of Motor Vehicles offices.

The new law registers every eligible Californian who goes to the DMV to get or renew a driver’s license. Once Secretary of State Alex Padilla sets up a specific procedure to be followed in all offices, every eligible person who doesn’t opt out will be registered.​

Still no actual evidence.

Check.

You are confused Moon Bat.

California didn't say that the fucking illegals could vote. However, between giving the assholes driver's licenses and having lax voter ID requirements then millions of them were defacto allowed to vote. That is how Crooked Hillary won the popular vote in a state crammed with illegals that hated Trump..

Did you miss the part that the drivers licenses issued to illegals look different? Exactly how do all these illegals (400,000 more or less) get registered to vote? Quite a stretch for you guys, and still no evidence. Only conjecture.

They refuse to believe that because they don't like it.

 

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Obama NEVER told illegals to vote. There. You've been disputed.

Still reasoning like 8 year old.

And these tweets have what to do with Obama supposedly telling illegals to vote...

When leftist wan't to make a point, they call on what some "8 year old" said. That's reasoning leftists are using when they defend their positions. That's the level of reasoning leftists are using when they're defending their positions on this board as well.

Take your post where you said there is no evidence that illegals voted and finished the statement with "lets stick to facts". You saying something out of your ass doesn't make it a fact. It's still just you stating something out of your ass. And THAT is, my friend, an indisputable fact.

Except, I don't state something out of my ass. I provide sources to back it up. I've also provide sources to discredit your claims. Now thus far, all you've managed to do is...provide conjecture, not refute either sources or claims. Who's pulling what out of who's ass?

Your "sources" are total media bullshit. They prove nothing.