Why does our President lie to us?

[TheGreatGatsby]

I've shown a lie Obama gave and you still deny it. Pucker up.

That's why I don't play the show me game with political hacks.

 

[rightwinger]

Only a few days into the Trump Presidency and he is lying to us repeatedly

Let's start with the need to lie about millions of illegals voting without a single shred of evidence

I think the lie about him showing his taxes was before that one So many lies it's hard keeping up


.

Are you claiming no illegals voted?

Absolutely

Why would illegals vote?

They have little to gain and it is an opportunity to be caught and deported

They have plenty to gain with social programs Democrats support. Plenty of illegals are still here and they don't get deported. Why would illegals worry about it especially after Obama did with an executive order what he did related to them?

When are you going to provide proof of ANY illegals voting in the last election?

 

[Conservative65]

Obama is not the president anymore. This is difficult to come into terms with for some.

right you are but we have someone more like Putin ,,How dare you republican nitwits give america the crap you have with your last 2 presidents

How dare you Democrats give any crap especially after electing a social experiment based on color. You'll claim that you supported his policies yet if his name had been Barry Dunham and he'd been white like his mother, you wouldn't know who he was.

you should change your ID to "racist"

You should change yours to "NL". Pucker up.

You truly are a low life piece of garbage. Now time for your kind to disappear

I'm still here.

 

[brummelben]

That's not what Obama said. From Obama's weekly address on 6/9/2009 - "If you like the plan you have, you can keep it. If you like the doctor you have, you can keep your doctor, too. The only change you’ll see are falling costs as our reforms take hold."

Unless everyone that liked their plan or their doctor got to keep their doctor, what he said the only change would be isn't the only change that occurred. You admit that his words were a lie.

That was no lie, the vast majority of people kept their insurance and their doctor.

It was a lie. Obabble didn't say "most of you".

In the weekly address Obama gave on 6/9/2009, he said the only thing that would change would be having lower costs.

Maybe the costs are lower than they would have been without the ACA? Who sets the costs, sonny boy? Where does the insurance company greed enter the picture

I know who said if you like your doctor and your plan you can keep them. Obama did and he lied. Now, continue to kiss his black ass, sonny boy.

We have nothing further to discuss you low life piece of garbage

 

[Doc1]

Obama is not the president anymore. This is difficult to come into terms with for some.

right you are but we have someone more like Putin ,,How dare you republican nitwits give america the crap you have with your last 2 presidents

How dare you Democrats give any crap especially after electing a social experiment based on color. You'll claim that you supported his policies yet if his name had been Barry Dunham and he'd been white like his mother, you wouldn't know who he was.

you should change your ID to "racist"

You should change yours to "NL". Pucker up.

You truly are a low life piece of garbage. Now time for your kind to disappear

Lookie here, one more internet troll with dreams of grandeur!!! How you going to make anyone disappear boy?

 

[brummelben]

Are you claiming no illegals voted?

Absolutely

Why would illegals vote?

They have little to gain and it is an opportunity to be caught and deported

They have plenty to gain with social programs Democrats support. Plenty of illegals are still here and they don't get deported. Why would illegals worry about it especially after Obama did with an executive order what he did related to them?

When are you going to provide proof of ANY illegals voting in the last election?

They can't, yet they are convinced that Trump was right. Just another in a long, very long, line of trump lies

 

[Conservative65]

right you are but we have someone more like Putin ,,How dare you republican nitwits give america the crap you have with your last 2 presidents

How dare you Democrats give any crap especially after electing a social experiment based on color. You'll claim that you supported his policies yet if his name had been Barry Dunham and he'd been white like his mother, you wouldn't know who he was.

you should change your ID to "racist"

You should change yours to "NL". Pucker up.

You truly are a low life piece of garbage. Now time for your kind to disappear

unfortunately they'll be with us for a while,,,,,they breed quickly mostly related to each other

Since 75% of blacks are bastards, and they vote Democrat, I'd say it's far more likely that they are related to one another. Perhaps that's why they call each other brother and sister. They very well may be.

 

[boedicca]

In the vast majority of cases we did

That's not what Obama said. From Obama's weekly address on 6/9/2009 - "If you like the plan you have, you can keep it. If you like the doctor you have, you can keep your doctor, too. The only change you’ll see are falling costs as our reforms take hold."

Unless everyone that liked their plan or their doctor got to keep their doctor, what he said the only change would be isn't the only change that occurred. You admit that his words were a lie.

That was no lie, the vast majority of people kept their insurance and their doctor.

It was a lie. Obabble didn't say "most of you".

In the weekly address Obama gave on 6/9/2009, he said the only thing that would change would be having lower costs.

Maybe the costs are lower than they would have been without the ACA? Who sets the costs, sonny boy? Where does the insurance company greed enter the picture

History indicates otherwise. Healthcare costs had been on the decline prior to ObamaCare, which then caused them to increase dramatically via both higher premiums and deductibles.

 

[Conservative65]

Absolutely

Why would illegals vote?

They have little to gain and it is an opportunity to be caught and deported

They have plenty to gain with social programs Democrats support. Plenty of illegals are still here and they don't get deported. Why would illegals worry about it especially after Obama did with an executive order what he did related to them?

When are you going to provide proof of ANY illegals voting in the last election?

They can't, yet they are convinced that Trump was right. Just another in a long, very long, line of trump lies

I've shown you where Obama lied and you still kiss his ass.

 

[boedicca]

And does your "truth" include the idea that Hillary was a viable candidate who was not corrupt?

His truth includes the idea that we all get to keep the health insurance plans that we like and our doctors whom we like.

That was the magic negroes truth

One of the Obama ass lickers below said "in the vast majority of cases we did". That's not what I recall Obama saying would happen. In the weekly address he gave on 6/9/2009, he indicated the ONLY change would be lower costs.

You worry about that sonny, and then count the trump lies every single day

I've shown a lie Obama gave and you still deny it. Pucker up.

Bummel is clearly an Obabble buttswab.

 

[Conservative65]

That was no lie, the vast majority of people kept their insurance and their doctor.

It was a lie. Obabble didn't say "most of you".

In the weekly address Obama gave on 6/9/2009, he said the only thing that would change would be having lower costs.

Maybe the costs are lower than they would have been without the ACA? Who sets the costs, sonny boy? Where does the insurance company greed enter the picture

I know who said if you like your doctor and your plan you can keep them. Obama did and he lied. Now, continue to kiss his black ass, sonny boy.

We have nothing further to discuss you low life piece of garbage

I'm not the one supporting a proven liar. You do when you claim Obama didn't despite evidence he did. Pucker up.

 

[Dschrute3]

Oh, Snowflake Butt-Hurt. Will it ever end? Probably not.

Politicians lie. That's not exactly 'breaking news.' Grow up Snowflakes.

 

[Mustang]

That's not what Obama said. From Obama's weekly address on 6/9/2009 - "If you like the plan you have, you can keep it. If you like the doctor you have, you can keep your doctor, too. The only change you’ll see are falling costs as our reforms take hold."

Unless everyone that liked their plan or their doctor got to keep their doctor, what he said the only change would be isn't the only change that occurred. You admit that his words were a lie.

That was no lie, the vast majority of people kept their insurance and their doctor.

It was a lie. Obabble didn't say "most of you".

In the weekly address Obama gave on 6/9/2009, he said the only thing that would change would be having lower costs.

Maybe the costs are lower than they would have been without the ACA? Who sets the costs, sonny boy? Where does the insurance company greed enter the picture

I know who said if you like your doctor and your plan you can keep them. Obama did and he lied. Now, continue to kiss his black ass, sonny boy.

That wasn't a lie. Here's why. In and of itself, passing the ACA did not require people to change doctors or plans. However, the way HC plans are chosen in the USA when it comes to employment, every year your employer can elect to change from which plans you can choose. Every year, you might have one of several choices. But that doesn't mean you'll have the same exact choices every year.

 

[boedicca]

That was no lie, the vast majority of people kept their insurance and their doctor.

It was a lie. Obabble didn't say "most of you".

In the weekly address Obama gave on 6/9/2009, he said the only thing that would change would be having lower costs.

Maybe the costs are lower than they would have been without the ACA? Who sets the costs, sonny boy? Where does the insurance company greed enter the picture

I know who said if you like your doctor and your plan you can keep them. Obama did and he lied. Now, continue to kiss his black ass, sonny boy.

That wasn't a lie. Here's why. In and of itself, passing the ACA did not require people to change doctors or plans. However, the way HC plans are chosen in the USA when it comes to employment, every year your employer can elect to change from which plans you can choose. Every year, you might have one of several choices. But that doesn't mean you'll have the same exact choices every year.

Red Herring. A great many people lost their health care plans and doctors when the Obama Admin caused the cancellations of their individual policies in order to force them into the exchanges.

 

[Conservative65]

That was no lie, the vast majority of people kept their insurance and their doctor.

It was a lie. Obabble didn't say "most of you".

In the weekly address Obama gave on 6/9/2009, he said the only thing that would change would be having lower costs.

Maybe the costs are lower than they would have been without the ACA? Who sets the costs, sonny boy? Where does the insurance company greed enter the picture

I know who said if you like your doctor and your plan you can keep them. Obama did and he lied. Now, continue to kiss his black ass, sonny boy.

That wasn't a lie. Here's why. In and of itself, passing the ACA did not require people to change doctors or plans. However, the way HC plans are chosen in the USA when it comes to employment, every year your employer can elect to change from which plans you can choose. Every year, you might have one of several choices. But that doesn't mean you'll have the same exact choices every year.

Are you saying that every case where someone didn't get to keep their doctor/plan was because of the way you described? I'll need you to prove it.

 

[Doc1]

That was no lie, the vast majority of people kept their insurance and their doctor.

It was a lie. Obabble didn't say "most of you".

In the weekly address Obama gave on 6/9/2009, he said the only thing that would change would be having lower costs.

Maybe the costs are lower than they would have been without the ACA? Who sets the costs, sonny boy? Where does the insurance company greed enter the picture

I know who said if you like your doctor and your plan you can keep them. Obama did and he lied. Now, continue to kiss his black ass, sonny boy.

That wasn't a lie. Here's why. In and of itself, passing the ACA did not require people to change doctors or plans. However, the way HC plans are chosen in the USA when it comes to employment, every year your employer can elect to change from which plans you can choose. Every year, you might have one of several choices. But that doesn't mean you'll have the same exact choices every year.

The SHOP exchanges didn't kick in that first year, so the ACA primarily affected the Individual Market, and no the vast majority of those folks did NOT get to keep their plans.

 

[Conservative65]

It was a lie. Obabble didn't say "most of you".

In the weekly address Obama gave on 6/9/2009, he said the only thing that would change would be having lower costs.

Maybe the costs are lower than they would have been without the ACA? Who sets the costs, sonny boy? Where does the insurance company greed enter the picture

I know who said if you like your doctor and your plan you can keep them. Obama did and he lied. Now, continue to kiss his black ass, sonny boy.

That wasn't a lie. Here's why. In and of itself, passing the ACA did not require people to change doctors or plans. However, the way HC plans are chosen in the USA when it comes to employment, every year your employer can elect to change from which plans you can choose. Every year, you might have one of several choices. But that doesn't mean you'll have the same exact choices every year.

Red Herring. A great many people lost their health care plans and doctors when the Obama Admin caused the cancellations of their individual policies in order to force them into the exchanges.

In many cases it was Obamacare rules that didn't allow plans that people liked to be available any more. While the insurance companies may not have been able to offer them anymore, it wasn't because the companies didn't want to do so. Rather, it was because provisions of Obamacare didn't allow them to do so.

 

[Doc1]

In the weekly address Obama gave on 6/9/2009, he said the only thing that would change would be having lower costs.

Maybe the costs are lower than they would have been without the ACA? Who sets the costs, sonny boy? Where does the insurance company greed enter the picture

I know who said if you like your doctor and your plan you can keep them. Obama did and he lied. Now, continue to kiss his black ass, sonny boy.

That wasn't a lie. Here's why. In and of itself, passing the ACA did not require people to change doctors or plans. However, the way HC plans are chosen in the USA when it comes to employment, every year your employer can elect to change from which plans you can choose. Every year, you might have one of several choices. But that doesn't mean you'll have the same exact choices every year.

Red Herring. A great many people lost their health care plans and doctors when the Obama Admin caused the cancellations of their individual policies in order to force them into the exchanges.

In many cases it was Obamacare rules that didn't allow plans that people liked to be available any more. While the insurance companies may not have been able to offer them anymore, it wasn't because the companies didn't want to do so. Rather, it was because provisions of Obamacare didn't allow them to do so.

Absolutely correct.

 

[Conservative65]

Maybe the costs are lower than they would have been without the ACA? Who sets the costs, sonny boy? Where does the insurance company greed enter the picture

I know who said if you like your doctor and your plan you can keep them. Obama did and he lied. Now, continue to kiss his black ass, sonny boy.

That wasn't a lie. Here's why. In and of itself, passing the ACA did not require people to change doctors or plans. However, the way HC plans are chosen in the USA when it comes to employment, every year your employer can elect to change from which plans you can choose. Every year, you might have one of several choices. But that doesn't mean you'll have the same exact choices every year.

Red Herring. A great many people lost their health care plans and doctors when the Obama Admin caused the cancellations of their individual policies in order to force them into the exchanges.

In many cases it was Obamacare rules that didn't allow plans that people liked to be available any more. While the insurance companies may not have been able to offer them anymore, it wasn't because the companies didn't want to do so. Rather, it was because provisions of Obamacare didn't allow them to do so.

Absolutely correct.

In the end, while the left will say the insurance companies were at fault, if the insurance companies have no choice based on what Obama pushed through, it goes back to the original source.

 

[Doc1]

I know who said if you like your doctor and your plan you can keep them. Obama did and he lied. Now, continue to kiss his black ass, sonny boy.

That wasn't a lie. Here's why. In and of itself, passing the ACA did not require people to change doctors or plans. However, the way HC plans are chosen in the USA when it comes to employment, every year your employer can elect to change from which plans you can choose. Every year, you might have one of several choices. But that doesn't mean you'll have the same exact choices every year.

Red Herring. A great many people lost their health care plans and doctors when the Obama Admin caused the cancellations of their individual policies in order to force them into the exchanges.

In many cases it was Obamacare rules that didn't allow plans that people liked to be available any more. While the insurance companies may not have been able to offer them anymore, it wasn't because the companies didn't want to do so. Rather, it was because provisions of Obamacare didn't allow them to do so.

Absolutely correct.

In the end, while the left will say the insurance companies were at fault, if the insurance companies have no choice based on what Obama pushed through, it goes back to the original source.

Indeed it does and the Insurance had no choice at all. The mandated coverages made it necessary to cancel the existing plans per the law even prior to the ACA. Insurance cannot willy nilly raise rates or change the plans. ANY changes of either require new filings of new plans on new forms and all have to be approved by State Commissioners. When you change a plan in any it simply dies and a new one is born. Obama knew he was lying.