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You win, you clearly know my position from those times better than I do.
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Republicans only pretend to care about debt when they don't have the presidency and Congress.
Did they pay for the Iraq war when they started it? No.
Did they pay for their tax cuts when they passed them? No.
Did they pay for Medicare part D when they passed it? No.
You win, you clearly know my position from those times better than I do.
Republicans only pretend to care about debt when they don't have the presidency and Congress.
Did they pay for the Iraq war when they started it? No.
Did they pay for their tax cuts when they passed them? No.
Did they pay for Medicare part D when they passed it? No.
I never can pass up a chance to educate the Liberal, I pray he thinks about it and it will help him make better desc ions
1) The tax payer pays for everything, not the GOP or the Democrats
2) Tax cuts mean if you pay taxes, you will be allowed to keep more of your wealth
3) It was Medicare part B and based on the amount of deficit that we collected over that 8 year period you can pick and choose what was and was not paid for. Medicare part B would have taken about 40% of the debt based on your assumption
I'm speaking about Republicans which is what the OP is about (read the title again, please). The Left has their own problems. Your little comparison is childish.
To point out hypocrisy is "childish?" I'm sure if Republicans criticized Democrats for something they do even worse you'd criticize any Democrat who pointed out that it was hypocrisy was being childish as well, right?
Were my facts on the level of debt Democrats reacted to with Bush while being OK with BO childish too? Facts are childish, racist, sexist and homophobic you know...
If your goal is to present your claim of hypocrisy to cover for your own hypocrisy even as you refsue to address your own hypocrisy, yes it is childish.
How can you call budget projections about the deficit that don't include the cost of the wars in them factual?? Seems to me that you are more than happy to ignore the facts that don't bow to your version of the facts.
Republicans only pretend to care about debt when they don't have the presidency and Congress.
Did they pay for the Iraq war when they started it? No.
Did they pay for their tax cuts when they passed them? No.
Did they pay for Medicare part D when they passed it? No.
I never can pass up a chance to educate the Liberal, I pray he thinks about it and it will help him make better desc ions
1) The tax payer pays for everything, not the GOP or the Democrats
2) Tax cuts mean if you pay taxes, you will be allowed to keep more of your wealth
3) It was Medicare part B and based on the amount of deficit that we collected over that 8 year period you can pick and choose what was and was not paid for. Medicare part B would have taken about 40% of the debt based on your assumption
The guy who didn't even know what the unemployment rate was when Reagan took office wants to tell you all how smart he is.
lol
Republicans only pretend to care about debt when they don't have the presidency and Congress.
Did they pay for the Iraq war when they started it? No.
Did they pay for their tax cuts when they passed them? No.
Did they pay for Medicare part D when they passed it? No.
I never can pass up a chance to educate the Liberal, I pray he thinks about it and it will help him make better desc ions
1) The tax payer pays for everything, not the GOP or the Democrats
2) Tax cuts mean if you pay taxes, you will be allowed to keep more of your wealth
3) It was Medicare part B and based on the amount of deficit that we collected over that 8 year period you can pick and choose what was and was not paid for. Medicare part B would have taken about 40% of the debt based on your assumption
The guy who didn't even know what the unemployment rate was when Reagan took office wants to tell you all how smart he is.
lol
Why does the debt matter so much to Repubs?
I guess I just don't get it. I suppose I see the importance in not being broke, but above all else?
The fact that you refer to him only as 'Hussein' speaks volumes.
What does it say?
Besides the fact that you're a stupid fuck? It says you're using his middle name as a pejorative, therefore it's axiomatic that you're blaming the deficit on him.
It'd be no different than if I said "5 trillion under the redneck." No, I didn't spell it out, but rather obvious what's being suggested.
So let's see if I got this straight. Everything was just fine until Obama got elected..THEN he up and spent a borrowed 13 trillion dollars. Right?
Okay D okayYou know...I hear a lot about how Obama raised the debt and spent more than any other president...blah..blah.. What you NEVER hear is what the 13 trillion was spent on. So let's see if I got this straight. Everything was just fine until Obama got elected..THEN he up and spent a borrowed 13 trillion dollars. Right? What exactly did HE spend all that money on? The health care hasn't kicked in for any serious money yet. Where do you guys that want to pawn this debt off on Obama believe he did with thirteen TRILLION dollars? Did he start some huge war and keep it a secret? Did he spend it in the hood on crack? I suppose he could have let the financial sector completely go bust leaving all stocks worthless. I suppose he could have pulled all our forces out of Iraq and Afghanistan the minute he became president. I mean he wasn't responsible for the Wall Street collapse or getting us into either of those two wars. All that probably accounts for 3 o 4 trillion. What was the debt again when Bush left if Iraq and Afghanistan were on the books? So by far and away the majority of Obamas expenditures was cleaning up after Bush. Or have I missed something?
Oh ya OK..I get it...It is the guy that actually pays the bills that gets blamed for the reckless wars and the financial joy ride when the kids crash the car. I don't like Obama much..but I REALLY hate you lying sacks of shit that get us into unnecessary wars and allow financial ruin..then blame anyone and everyone but your own traitorous fuckwit selves for the consequences.
Who said Medicare was insolvent?
Read Ryan's plan and find something specific to whine about.
The Roadmap Plan | A Roadmap for America's Future | The Budget Committee Republicans
Avoidance. Imagine that, thanks for nothing.
Questioning you is avoidance? Damn you ARE stupid!
Your concession is duly noted.
Nightmare? In what way has Iraq been a nightmare?
If you weren't hearing the right showing concern for the deficit, then you weren't listening.
Nice avoidance. I guess you can't answer the question.
You right wingers love to argue that the left was complaining about W's debt but the thing that most were complaining about concerning the debt was the cost of the wars whioch were not included in W's budgets that obama is now putting on the books.
The fact is that yes there were tea partiers years ago but they were a much smaller group and it wasn't until the republican party lost in 08 that the right wingers tried to find a new voice to co opt as they used the tea party to meet their needs. To try and pretend that there was a large group on the right that was vocal about the debt before then is sheer dishonesty.
How is it avoidance to point out the fact that we were, in fact, concerned about the deficit?
So by far and away the majority of Obamas expenditures was cleaning up after Bush. Or have I missed something?
I guess I just don't get it. I suppose I see the importance in not being broke, but above all else?
Why didnt they care when bush was in office? Do you have any idea how much he spent and just didnt put it on the books...you know...like the iraq war.
What part of "We did care" is difficult to understand?
Why didnt they care when bush was in office? Do you have any idea how much he spent and just didnt put it on the books...you know...like the iraq war.
What part of "We did care" is difficult to understand?
Exactly.. ZonedOut just chooses to have selective memory... it's easier for him that way... hard to deal with the fact that many MANY conservatives spoke out against Bush's fiscal policies and budgets...
Why does the debt matter so much to Repubs?
It only matters to Republicans when they're not in power. True story.
Dude,
$300 billion under Bush, Left considers it cataclysmic
$1.5 trillion under Hussein the Left considers it the cost of doing business
And you say this? As pathetic as the Republicans are, they got nothing on you.
To point out hypocrisy is "childish?" I'm sure if Republicans criticized Democrats for something they do even worse you'd criticize any Democrat who pointed out that it was hypocrisy was being childish as well, right?
Were my facts on the level of debt Democrats reacted to with Bush while being OK with BO childish too? Facts are childish, racist, sexist and homophobic you know...
If your goal is to present your claim of hypocrisy to cover for your own hypocrisy even as you refsue to address your own hypocrisy, yes it is childish.
How can you call budget projections about the deficit that don't include the cost of the wars in them factual?? Seems to me that you are more than happy to ignore the facts that don't bow to your version of the facts.
You may want to Google the word "hypocrisy" since you don't know what it means. It's fair to include the wars, but not including them doesn't mean "hypocrisy."
As for the wars, they change the point little. They were no where near the trillion plus that Obama increased the deficit with his spending tsunami.
What you did was in fact hypocrisy since you're doing what you accuse the Republicans of doing. And your "childish" accusation is just childish, you can't rationally argue your points so you start name calling.
So let's see if I got this straight. Everything was just fine until Obama got elected..THEN he up and spent a borrowed 13 trillion dollars. Right?
No, you don't have it straight