Why does the right defend the wealthy class

[Arizona Willie]

I don't believe you could be more wrong if you tried.

Federal contracts, by law, get spread out throughout the community.

Construction contracts employ many smaller contractors and sub-contractors.

Even things like contracts to supply forms and paper get divided up among many companies.

You have no phucking idea what you are talking about.

But then, you're a right winger so why would we expect any better?

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But, from there, there needs to be close scrutiny of how this money makes it's way "back into the system". When we pay for infrastructure, who gets those bids ? Big companies with high paid CEO's. Essentially, more wealth distribution back into the hands of the rich.

The contracts and legal issues don't allow small guys to play. The deck is already stacked in the favor of the rich.

 

[Arizona Willie]

Awww, poor poor widdle Sun Devil knows he is getting his ass kicked in the discussion so it wants to run people who are kicking his ass off.

Typical Republican / Conservative.
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Get off the thread.

Don't post here anymore.

You are left wing propaganda hack.

 

[Dad2three]

On second thought, don't go back to school. Just get a fucking job.

I do have a job.

It pays well and I have my own insurance.

I have many friends who try to start small businesses and the government has made it very tough for them.

That is government along with the wealthy class.

I don't believe the wealthy class does this maliciously. I think they simply see it as business.

Starting a small business is easy. Unless you can be specific about how tha government made it tough for your friends, you are guilty of bullshit again.

O.K.

For starters, I have a doctor friend who got together with other doctors and decided to look into starting a small insurance company. One they would fund themselves...not an office for a major. They stopped when they were told the legal costs alone just to get started would cost close to a million dollars because of all the compliance issues.

This was an effort to get away from all the craziness of spending dollars on insurance codings and the like. They also wanted to keep it to their clients (who they could pick and choose) so that they could influence them to live more healthy lifestyles.

Again, more regulatory costs......

Again, MORE right wing BS. They didn't REALLY want an insurance comp but an EXCHANGE. Tough they couldn't afford it, YOU prefer an "insurance" comp that has no standards, we had that for to long!

 

[Maryland Patriot]

If the 1%'ers get 80% of the nations income they should pay 80% of the taxes.

Each income level should pay the same percentage in taxes( as a group ... not individuals ) that they get of the nations income.

If a group gets 80% of the income they pay 80% of the taxes it takes to run the country.
If a group gets 10% of the income they pay 10% of the taxes it takes to run the country.

The wealthy receive far more FROM society therefore they owe more TO society.

What could be more fair than that?

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All men are created equal, and that means they should have equal protection, equal taxes and equal opportunity to either excel or fail.
you can't claim equality if you start to punish someone simply because they took the initiative to succeed in life.
Besides, today its those that make a million, when that fails to supply enough revenue it will be those that make over 500k, when that fails it might be 250, then 100 then those 30 or 40 people that are still middle class and not in poverty.

please list the items in society that the rich are receiving in greater quantities than those that make less.
Try to keep it to real tangible assets.

 

[LoneLaugher]

If the 1%'ers get 80% of the nations income they should pay 80% of the taxes.

Each income level should pay the same percentage in taxes( as a group ... not individuals ) that they get of the nations income.

If a group gets 80% of the income they pay 80% of the taxes it takes to run the country.
If a group gets 10% of the income they pay 10% of the taxes it takes to run the country.

The wealthy receive far more FROM society therefore they owe more TO society.

What could be more fair than that?

========

All men are created equal, and that means they should have equal protection, equal taxes and equal opportunity to either excel or fail.
you can't claim equality if you start to punish someone simply because they took the initiative to succeed in life.
Besides, today its those that make a million, when that fails to supply enough revenue it will be those that make over 500k, when that fails it might be 250, then 100 then those 30 or 40 people that are still middle class and not in poverty.

please list the items in society that the rich are receiving in greater quantities than those that make less.
Try to keep it to real tangible assets.

Biggest one........

Our military.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

If the 1%'ers get 80% of the nations income they should pay 80% of the taxes.

Each income level should pay the same percentage in taxes( as a group ... not individuals ) that they get of the nations income.

If a group gets 80% of the income they pay 80% of the taxes it takes to run the country.
If a group gets 10% of the income they pay 10% of the taxes it takes to run the country.

The wealthy receive far more FROM society therefore they owe more TO society.

What could be more fair than that?

========

All men are created equal, and that means they should have equal protection, equal taxes and equal opportunity to either excel or fail.
you can't claim equality if you start to punish someone simply because they took the initiative to succeed in life.
Besides, today its those that make a million, when that fails to supply enough revenue it will be those that make over 500k, when that fails it might be 250, then 100 then those 30 or 40 people that are still middle class and not in poverty.

please list the items in society that the rich are receiving in greater quantities than those that make less.
Try to keep it to real tangible assets.

Biggest one........

Our military.

how does that benefit the rich more than the poor?

 

[LoneLaugher]

If the 1%'ers get 80% of the nations income they should pay 80% of the taxes.

Each income level should pay the same percentage in taxes( as a group ... not individuals ) that they get of the nations income.

If a group gets 80% of the income they pay 80% of the taxes it takes to run the country.
If a group gets 10% of the income they pay 10% of the taxes it takes to run the country.

The wealthy receive far more FROM society therefore they owe more TO society.

What could be more fair than that?

========

All men are created equal, and that means they should have equal protection, equal taxes and equal opportunity to either excel or fail.
you can't claim equality if you start to punish someone simply because they took the initiative to succeed in life.
Besides, today its those that make a million, when that fails to supply enough revenue it will be those that make over 500k, when that fails it might be 250, then 100 then those 30 or 40 people that are still middle class and not in poverty.

please list the items in society that the rich are receiving in greater quantities than those that make less.
Try to keep it to real tangible assets.

Biggest one........

Our military.

how does that benefit the rich more than the poor?

That's a joke, right?

 

[Maryland Patriot]

If the 1%'ers get 80% of the nations income they should pay 80% of the taxes.

Each income level should pay the same percentage in taxes( as a group ... not individuals ) that they get of the nations income.

If a group gets 80% of the income they pay 80% of the taxes it takes to run the country.
If a group gets 10% of the income they pay 10% of the taxes it takes to run the country.

The wealthy receive far more FROM society therefore they owe more TO society.

What could be more fair than that?

========

All men are created equal, and that means they should have equal protection, equal taxes and equal opportunity to either excel or fail.
you can't claim equality if you start to punish someone simply because they took the initiative to succeed in life.
Besides, today its those that make a million, when that fails to supply enough revenue it will be those that make over 500k, when that fails it might be 250, then 100 then those 30 or 40 people that are still middle class and not in poverty.

please list the items in society that the rich are receiving in greater quantities than those that make less.
Try to keep it to real tangible assets.

Biggest one........

Our military.

how does that benefit the rich more than the poor?

That's a joke, right?

no its a serious question, Im sorry if your handlers didn't include reasons with their examples.

 

[LoneLaugher]

If the 1%'ers get 80% of the nations income they should pay 80% of the taxes.

Each income level should pay the same percentage in taxes( as a group ... not individuals ) that they get of the nations income.

If a group gets 80% of the income they pay 80% of the taxes it takes to run the country.
If a group gets 10% of the income they pay 10% of the taxes it takes to run the country.

The wealthy receive far more FROM society therefore they owe more TO society.

What could be more fair than that?

========

please list the items in society that the rich are receiving in greater quantities than those that make less.
Try to keep it to real tangible assets.

Biggest one........

Our military.

how does that benefit the rich more than the poor?

That's a joke, right?

no its a serious question, Im sorry if your handlers didn't include reasons with their examples.

Play "devils advocate" for a minute. What do you think I am saying when I say that the military benefits wealthy people more than it does the poor? Try to be a libtard and see what you come up with.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

please list the items in society that the rich are receiving in greater quantities than those that make less.
Try to keep it to real tangible assets.

Biggest one........

Our military.

how does that benefit the rich more than the poor?

That's a joke, right?

no its a serious question, Im sorry if your handlers didn't include reasons with their examples.

Play "devils advocate" for a minute. What do you think I am saying when I say that the military benefits wealthy people more than it does the poor? Try to be a libtard and see what you come up with.

no, you brought it up, its on you to provide the reasons.
So do it or admit that your handlers left you with your panties around your ankles on this one.
but since you have failed with the military example, please provide other examples that you might be able to try and back up.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Biggest one........

Our military.

how does that benefit the rich more than the poor?

That's a joke, right?

no its a serious question, Im sorry if your handlers didn't include reasons with their examples.

Play "devils advocate" for a minute. What do you think I am saying when I say that the military benefits wealthy people more than it does the poor? Try to be a libtard and see what you come up with.

no, you brought it up, its on you to provide the reasons.
So do it or admit that your handlers left you with your panties around your ankles on this one.
but since you have failed with the military example, please provide other examples that you might be able to try and back up.

I'm not quite done with you yet, dummy. Please don't run away from this discussion.

You don't want to think at all, it seems.....and that is boring......but I will make up for it by mocking you.

The rich have more to protect than the poor.....especially where it concerns our international interests, shipping lanes, trade agreements, protected travel for corporations, cyber security etc.. That is common sense stuff, dummy. Far more of our military resources go to protect the interests of welathy people and corporations than they do to protect our nation's poor.

Dumb shit.

 

[Claudette]

Liberals/Socialists/Progressives/Communists hate both the middle class and the working class because...

they HATE the "wealthy class".

Go back to school you stupid fuck.

If you look at my posting history...that isn't me.

I am not a progressive.

But the article raises an issue I've had for a long time. The wealthy class link up with the governing class and together they screw us.

There is tons of money in D.C. It's a huge rapefest.

My attitude in life has been that no amount of beat-down is going to keep me down.

It's how I've survived for 60 years.

You covet the riches of others, I build strength in my own riches. Which, BTW, do not include money.

I agree.

Every time I see a thread on the rich and how they have made all their money on the backs of the middle class I want to LMAO.

All I see from the posters is a bunch of jealous fucks who wish they were all rich.

I too have my own wealth and it ain't money baby.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

how does that benefit the rich more than the poor?

That's a joke, right?

no its a serious question, Im sorry if your handlers didn't include reasons with their examples.

Play "devils advocate" for a minute. What do you think I am saying when I say that the military benefits wealthy people more than it does the poor? Try to be a libtard and see what you come up with.

no, you brought it up, its on you to provide the reasons.
So do it or admit that your handlers left you with your panties around your ankles on this one.
but since you have failed with the military example, please provide other examples that you might be able to try and back up.

I'm not quite done with you yet, dummy. Please don't run away from this discussion.

You don't want to think at all, it seems.....and that is boring......but I will make up for it by mocking you.

The rich have more to protect than the poor.....especially where it concerns our international interests, shipping lanes, trade agreements, protected travel for corporations, cyber security etc.. That is common sense stuff, dummy. Far more of our military resources go to protect the interests of welathy people and corporations than they do to protect our nation's poor.

Dumb shit.

shipping lanes. What would the poor people do without the product that comes through those shipping lanes? it would seem that since there are so few rich and so many poor, the poor would benefit from that product flow more than the rich.
Poor people do travel too, how would all the refugees make it here safely? if you have ever been on a plane you might have noticed that there are few 1st class seats compared to the coach class, this would indicate that more non-rich people are traveling.
Cyber security? again protecting more non rich than rich.
who would 8 dollar a gallon hurt more, the rich, or the poor. Guess we should stop making sure that oil can get here.
again, you are only trying to make things up to substantiate your invalid claim.
And lets not even get into the trickle down of government money in society due to the military. How many people do you think are employed by defense contractors and companies that support or supply product to defense contractors.
So lets try something that you might be able to show an actual higher benefit from.
Name the next one.
Oh, and as far as dumb shit? which one of us has to keep searching the internet to back up the talking points they are using.
Your military example is wrong.

 

[Arizona Willie]

Oh let's see what do the rich receive that the poorer people don't?

How about gated estates with their private security?

How about yachts?

How about their PRIVATE jets?

How about Around the World Cruises for their whole family?

How about private Chefs and Dieticians who work ONLY for their family?

How many of those things DO YOU HAVE?

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please list the items in society that the rich are receiving in greater quantities than those that make less.
Try to keep it to real tangible assets.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

On second thought, don't go back to school. Just get a fucking job.

I do have a job.

It pays well and I have my own insurance.

I have many friends who try to start small businesses and the government has made it very tough for them.

That is government along with the wealthy class.

I don't believe the wealthy class does this maliciously. I think they simply see it as business.

Starting a small business is easy. Unless you can be specific about how tha government made it tough for your friends, you are guilty of bullshit again.

O.K.

For starters, I have a doctor friend who got together with other doctors and decided to look into starting a small insurance company. One they would fund themselves...not an office for a major. They stopped when they were told the legal costs alone just to get started would cost close to a million dollars because of all the compliance issues.

This was an effort to get away from all the craziness of spending dollars on insurance codings and the like. They also wanted to keep it to their clients (who they could pick and choose) so that they could influence them to live more healthy lifestyles.

Again, more regulatory costs......

Wow. You proved your case for one company. Who enacted the regulations that stopped them?

Got any more?

Do you know how many businesses are started every month in this nation?

I answered your question.

If you don't like the answer, then don't ask the question.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

Oh let's see what do the rich receive that the poorer people don't?

How about gated estates with their private security?

How about yachts?

How about Around the World Cruises for their whole family?

How about private Chefs and Dieticians who work ONLY for their family?

How many of those things DO YOU HAVE?

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please list the items in society that the rich are receiving in greater quantities than those that make less.
Try to keep it to real tangible assets.

This shows some serious jealousy on your part.
Gated estate with private security. They pay for that with money they earned from working
yachts? they payed for that with money they earned from working
Cruises? they paid for that with money they earned from working
Chefs? I think they paid for that with money the earned from working.
See a common thing here?
but, did they pay to have that estate built? do the pay someone to maintain it? pay for the security?
Did someone go to work and build that yacht? how about all the people that work at factories that supply components for that yacht
How many people are employed by Cruise lines that are collecting a paycheck because some people can afford to travel.
Do you think the Chef makes more than he would at McDonalds?
These are not things provided by society, these are things that help society by putting people to work in the respective industries.
God bless the rich guys that can afford to support all of these people and keep them employed.
Try again, you failed to show anything with substance.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Liberals/Socialists/Progressives/Communists hate both the middle class and the working class because...

they HATE the "wealthy class".

Go back to school you stupid fuck.

If you look at my posting history...that isn't me.

I am not a progressive.

But the article raises an issue I've had for a long time. The wealthy class link up with the governing class and together they screw us.

There is tons of money in D.C. It's a huge rapefest.

My attitude in life has been that no amount of beat-down is going to keep me down.

It's how I've survived for 60 years.

You covet the riches of others, I build strength in my own riches. Which, BTW, do not include money.

I agree.

Every time I see a thread on the rich and how they have made all their money on the backs of the middle class I want to LMAO.

All I see from the posters is a bunch of jealous fucks who wish they were all rich.

I too have my own wealth and it ain't money baby.

This isn't about how the rich made their money on the backs of the middle class.

This is about how the government colludes (somewhat unknowingly) with big business to create barriers to entry.

This thread has turned into the same stupid light beer commercial every other thread turns into.

 

[Arizona Willie]

I'm not quite sure who you were asking that question.

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That's a joke, right?

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Awww, poor poor widdle Sun Devil knows he is getting his ass kicked in the discussion so it wants to run people who are kicking his ass off.

Typical Republican / Conservative.
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Get off the thread.

Don't post here anymore.

You are left wing propaganda hack.

Frankie, the leftwing asshole does nothing but crow the thread with his brownshirt propaganda.

You are not much better.

You don't discuss anything. You have your simple mind made up.

Who cares about solving the issue in a cooperative fashion. You KNOW it needs to be done your way.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

I don't believe you could be more wrong if you tried.

Federal contracts, by law, get spread out throughout the community.

Construction contracts employ many smaller contractors and sub-contractors.

Even things like contracts to supply forms and paper get divided up among many companies.

You have no phucking idea what you are talking about.

But then, you're a right winger so why would we expect any better?

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But, from there, there needs to be close scrutiny of how this money makes it's way "back into the system". When we pay for infrastructure, who gets those bids ? Big companies with high paid CEO's. Essentially, more wealth distribution back into the hands of the rich.

The contracts and legal issues don't allow small guys to play. The deck is already stacked in the favor of the rich.

You ever apply for the grant money the government gives out ?

Good luck if you don't have 30 lawyers on stafff.