Why does the U.S. allow Muslims to immigrate?

[ScienceRocks]

The question we all must ask; Can islam defend human freedoms, rights and advance them? If not then it is that kitten.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Yeah sure, you want to ban immigration based on someone religion but you don't hate anyone.

you still haven't learned that Islam is WAY more than just a "religion".......please try to keep up....

 

[ScienceRocks]

They bring beliefs that are directly opposite of ours into our lands. Do understand this...

 

[Ringel05]

No....they are not the same....

Christians leave what is Caesar's to Caesar.....Muslims do not.....their religion et al is part and parcel of a theocracy.....

of course there are 'everyday' muslims who just want to live their lives peaceably....for now anyway....but there are leaders among them who practice stealth jihad and jihad that is not so stealthy.....

take CAIR for example.....the Muslim Brotherhood is alive and well and growing in America...it is pushing Sharia law in the U.S.....and supporting the domination of Islam...

what about the thousand Muslim protesters in Dearborn MI who protested against the video maker who had every right to make his video.....yet those 'everyday' Muslims were rousted out of their 'everyday' lives to protest against our First Amendment in favor of Islamic law....

i do not see Christians protesting against our Constitution....nor living like separatists as they do in Dearborn and other places.....nor promoting a world caliphate....similar to one pursued by Communists....

Unfortunately your focus is myopically trained on a few. Yes, I'm aware of the ultimate goals of Islam, like the centuries old goal of the European Christians, which no longer exists in that form for the vast majority.
Not all Muslims, matter of fact the most, don't hold to the radical interpretation of convert or die, they hope to teach and convert just like most are here to escape strict Shia Law in their own countries. Not all the Muslims are of middle eastern descent, many are from eastern European countries and most think middle eastern Muslims are nuts.
It's a complex situation, trying to generalize it the way you have shows a lack of real knowledge of the subject in favor of pure emotive rationalization.

a "few".....? you mean like the "few" representatives we have in Congress......? amazing how a "few" can have so much clout...

you're the one who is myopic....

Sure thing there Sparky. What's you background in this area? Part of mine was dealing with this at a national level. My wife's primary area of expertise was international in scope. Like in all human constructs there is always a small minority comprising the radicalized element, sociology 101 teaches that. Currently the radicalization of individuals in this country is thankfully rather limed and we are now seeing more signs that moderate Muslims are beginning to fight back against the radical elements in different parts of the world.

 

[ClosedCaption]

The U.S. does not allow Communists or other totalitarians to immigrate to America......why is Islam exempt...?

Islam is more than just a religion.....it is a system of life......politically, socially, religiously, legally, militarily, economically, etc......

There is both active and passive Jihad......the ultimate goal of Islam is world domination....just like Communism....

But I thought punishing everyone because of the few was a bad thing? Only with guns I guess

 

[ScienceRocks]

Just look at Islamic countries and think of that as our future. This is why I don't want these people coming here...How can anyone that fights for equality think that's a good future for us.

 

[ScienceRocks]

The U.S. does not allow Communists or other totalitarians to immigrate to America......why is Islam exempt...?

Islam is more than just a religion.....it is a system of life......politically, socially, religiously, legally, militarily, economically, etc......

There is both active and passive Jihad......the ultimate goal of Islam is world domination....just like Communism....

But I thought punishing everyone because of the few was a bad thing? Only with guns I guess

Most gun owners are responsible with their fire arm(not talking about the ghetto idiots); mean while muslims are some of the most vile, hateful and anti-freedom minded people you can ever imagine. This isn't something anyone should want to see grow in numbers(votes).

It would be like a Hitler like right wing extremist mindset that want to kill all jews and deball all low iq'd people becoming popular. You wouldn't like that.

 

[Ringel05]

The U.S. does not allow Communists or other totalitarians to immigrate to America......why is Islam exempt...?

Islam is more than just a religion.....it is a system of life......politically, socially, religiously, legally, militarily, economically, etc......

There is both active and passive Jihad......the ultimate goal of Islam is world domination....just like Communism....

But I thought punishing everyone because of the few was a bad thing? Only with guns I guess

Most gun owners are responsible with their fire arm(not talking about the ghetto idiots); mean while muslims are some of the most vile, hateful and anti-freedom minded people you can ever imagine. This isn't something anyone should want to see grow in numbers(votes).

It would be like a Hitler like right wing extremist mindset that want to kill all jews and deball all low iq'd people becoming popular. You wouldn't like that.

Just like you are currently allowing yourself to be goaded into vilifying Islam in general, normal everyday Muslims allow themselves to be goaded into vilifying the west....... Go figure.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Unfortunately your focus is myopically trained on a few. Yes, I'm aware of the ultimate goals of Islam, like the centuries old goal of the European Christians, which no longer exists in that form for the vast majority.
Not all Muslims, matter of fact the most, don't hold to the radical interpretation of convert or die, they hope to teach and convert just like most are here to escape strict Shia Law in their own countries. Not all the Muslims are of middle eastern descent, many are from eastern European countries and most think middle eastern Muslims are nuts.
It's a complex situation, trying to generalize it the way you have shows a lack of real knowledge of the subject in favor of pure emotive rationalization.

a "few".....? you mean like the "few" representatives we have in Congress......? amazing how a "few" can have so much clout...

you're the one who is myopic....

Sure thing there Sparky. What's you background in this area? Part of mine was dealing with this at a national level. My wife's primary area of expertise was international in scope. Like in all human constructs there is always a small minority comprising the radicalized element, sociology 101 teaches that. Currently the radicalization of individuals in this country is thankfully rather limed and we are now seeing more signs that moderate Muslims are beginning to fight back against the radical elements in different parts of the world.

"signs"........? what a pinhead.....there's way more to it than just the 'radical elements' that bomb marathons.....

if 'moderates' are doing so much......then pls explain the coming Eurabia....

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2PE8bN4_10]Islam in Europe its Becoming Eurabia - They want America NEXT!!! - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Ringel05]

a "few".....? you mean like the "few" representatives we have in Congress......? amazing how a "few" can have so much clout...

you're the one who is myopic....

Sure thing there Sparky. What's you background in this area? Part of mine was dealing with this at a national level. My wife's primary area of expertise was international in scope. Like in all human constructs there is always a small minority comprising the radicalized element, sociology 101 teaches that. Currently the radicalization of individuals in this country is thankfully rather limed and we are now seeing more signs that moderate Muslims are beginning to fight back against the radical elements in different parts of the world.

"signs"........? what a pinhead.....there's way more to it than just the 'radical elements' that bomb marathons.....

if 'moderates' are doing so much......then pls explain the coming Eurabia....

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2PE8bN4_10]Islam in Europe its Becoming Eurabia - They want America NEXT!!! - YouTube[/ame]

Please...... try some real information instead of a video that is designed to generate a specific emotive response.
In most countries in Europe Muslims are heavily discriminated against which leads to radicalization. The population of Muslims in these countries is a very small minority and it's extremely unlikely they will be able to accomplish their "goals".
Comparing Europe to America is ludicrous at best. Most Muslims in this country are not discriminated against but are also not allowed to misbehave, i.e. violate our secular laws. Any Muslim community here is allowed Shia law among their members as long as it doesn't violate US or state law, if someone does violate the law of our land they suffer the consequences.
Hell we have pockets of radicalized Christians in this country, maybe we should just violate their constitutional rights and pack them off to the Vatican...... Not that they would like that, most are Protestant.......

 

[bendog]

Well, we have Muslims training to be doctors and engineers, as well as people like Huma Abedin whose parents are obviously decent people. But dang, letting in someone from Chechneya cause they need asylum. No kidding. I'm sure there are a lot of bad people the ruskies want to kill, for good reason, who need asylum. Jeez.

 

[ScienceRocks]

The Egyptian people just got done voting for a Islamic extremist parties (70%). How can you say that most muslims are moderate?

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Please...... try some real information instead of a video that is designed to generate a specific emotive response.
In most countries in Europe Muslims are heavily discriminated against which leads to radicalization. The population of Muslims in these countries is a very small minority and it's extremely unlikely they will be able to accomplish their "goals".
Comparing Europe to America is ludicrous at best. Most Muslims in this country are not discriminated against but are also not allowed to misbehave, i.e. violate our secular laws. Any Muslim community here is allowed Shia law among their members as long as it doesn't violate US or state law, if someone does violate the law of our land they suffer the consequences.
Hell we have pockets of radicalized Christians in this country, maybe we should just violate their constitutional rights and pack them off to the Vatican...... Not that they would like that, most are Protestant.......

you're so much in denial it's pathetic...the muslim numbers in Europe do not lie...and they are not planning to become 'Europeans'....

it's important to realize that Muslims have a plan.....and it doesn't include assimilation into America....

One of the first things our nation’s founders did was to establish schools and colleges. They believed that in order to pass the founding ideals to future generations, they needed institutions of higher learning to do it.

...


Muslims also understand this methodology. That’s why they are setting up schools in the United States. They are using our freedoms against us.

The 66-acre former home of the Woodmont Academy, a Catholic school in Cooksville, Maryland, is in the process of being purchased by a Muslim group to build an educational center from kindergarten through college. The goal is to have a long-term national impact:

“We have to look at our community’s growth in terms of the next 50 years to 100 years, not just 10 or 20 years down the road. This is an investment in the future of the community, for the Muslims who are here long after we are gone.”

Their own Muslim publication, The Muslim Link, describes the educational center as “the “Largest Islamic Project in America.”

Muslims understand that to put their children in a government school would mean that a large percentage of them would be lost to their Islamic ideals. In order to reshape America and make it Islamic, the process of Islamization must begin with the children. Year after year more Islamic-trained young people will make their way into American society and begin to take over the centers of power. We’re already seeing it in politics. Presently, there are two Muslims in Congress.

It may take a hundred years. It’s taken Islam more than a thousand years to get where it is today. Another hundred years is nothing.


Read more: The Muslim Plan to Take over America From the Inside

 

[Ringel05]

The Egyptian people just got done voting for a Islamic extremist parties (70%). How can you say that most muslims are moderate?

The Islamic brotherhood promised they would keep a secular government. Many who believed them are now regretting their vote because they now know they were lied to.

 

[High_Gravity]

The U.S. does not allow Communists or other totalitarians to immigrate to America......why is Islam exempt...?

Islam is more than just a religion.....it is a system of life......politically, socially, religiously, legally, militarily, economically, etc......

There is both active and passive Jihad......the ultimate goal of Islam is world domination....just like Communism....

Huh? we do take in Cuban immigrants, even refugees from North Korea that can make it here. Do you know what you are talking about?

 

[ScreamingEagle]

The U.S. does not allow Communists or other totalitarians to immigrate to America......why is Islam exempt...?

Islam is more than just a religion.....it is a system of life......politically, socially, religiously, legally, militarily, economically, etc......

There is both active and passive Jihad......the ultimate goal of Islam is world domination....just like Communism....

Huh? we do take in Cuban immigrants, even refugees from North Korea that can make it here. Do you know what you are talking about?

do you?.....just try calling the Cuban refugees in Florida 'communists'.....

 

[Ringel05]

Please...... try some real information instead of a video that is designed to generate a specific emotive response.
In most countries in Europe Muslims are heavily discriminated against which leads to radicalization. The population of Muslims in these countries is a very small minority and it's extremely unlikely they will be able to accomplish their "goals".
Comparing Europe to America is ludicrous at best. Most Muslims in this country are not discriminated against but are also not allowed to misbehave, i.e. violate our secular laws. Any Muslim community here is allowed Shia law among their members as long as it doesn't violate US or state law, if someone does violate the law of our land they suffer the consequences.
Hell we have pockets of radicalized Christians in this country, maybe we should just violate their constitutional rights and pack them off to the Vatican...... Not that they would like that, most are Protestant.......

you're so much in denial it's pathetic...the muslim numbers in Europe do not lie...and they are not planning to become 'Europeans'....

it's important to realize that Muslims have a plan.....and it doesn't include assimilation into America....

One of the first things our nation’s founders did was to establish schools and colleges. They believed that in order to pass the founding ideals to future generations, they needed institutions of higher learning to do it.

...


Muslims also understand this methodology. That’s why they are setting up schools in the United States. They are using our freedoms against us.

The 66-acre former home of the Woodmont Academy, a Catholic school in Cooksville, Maryland, is in the process of being purchased by a Muslim group to build an educational center from kindergarten through college. The goal is to have a long-term national impact:

“We have to look at our community’s growth in terms of the next 50 years to 100 years, not just 10 or 20 years down the road. This is an investment in the future of the community, for the Muslims who are here long after we are gone.”

Their own Muslim publication, The Muslim Link, describes the educational center as “the “Largest Islamic Project in America.”

Muslims understand that to put their children in a government school would mean that a large percentage of them would be lost to their Islamic ideals. In order to reshape America and make it Islamic, the process of Islamization must begin with the children. Year after year more Islamic-trained young people will make their way into American society and begin to take over the centers of power. We’re already seeing it in politics. Presently, there are two Muslims in Congress.

It may take a hundred years. It’s taken Islam more than a thousand years to get where it is today. Another hundred years is nothing.


Read more: The Muslim Plan to Take over America From the Inside

You want to talk pathetic denial.........

Muslim Population

Yeah, really huge numbers.......

Have you considered pursuing a advanced education? I mean something beyond 2nd grade........

Again we're trying to discuss small radical groups as opposed to villainizing entire peoples because you don't understand them and would rather concentrate on the hate based propaganda. Way to go Sparky.

 

[Ringel05]

The U.S. does not allow Communists or other totalitarians to immigrate to America......why is Islam exempt...?

Islam is more than just a religion.....it is a system of life......politically, socially, religiously, legally, militarily, economically, etc......

There is both active and passive Jihad......the ultimate goal of Islam is world domination....just like Communism....

Huh? we do take in Cuban immigrants, even refugees from North Korea that can make it here. Do you know what you are talking about?

do you?.....just try calling the Cuban refugees in Florida 'communists'.....

Some were plants, many of the rest were violent criminals tossed out of Cuban prisons and sent here.

 

[bendog]

The U.S. does not allow Communists or other totalitarians to immigrate to America......why is Islam exempt...?

Islam is more than just a religion.....it is a system of life......politically, socially, religiously, legally, militarily, economically, etc......

There is both active and passive Jihad......the ultimate goal of Islam is world domination....just like Communism....

Huh? we do take in Cuban immigrants, even refugees from North Korea that can make it here. Do you know what you are talking about?

do you?.....just try calling the Cuban refugees in Florida 'communists'.....

you notice all facts fit his narrative ... no matter how they must be twisted. LOL

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

The U.S. does not allow Communists or other totalitarians to immigrate to America......why is Islam exempt...?

Islam is more than just a religion.....it is a system of life......politically, socially, religiously, legally, militarily, economically, etc......

There is both active and passive Jihad......the ultimate goal of Islam is world domination....just like Communism....

Out of the millions living here, how many have committed a terrorist act?