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Why doesn’t Black Lives Matter welcome robust debate with people who disagree?

Why are people fired and silenced for not agreeing with the Black Lives Matter agenda?

Doesn’t it seem counter to the free speech culture we should have here?

Why does someone with a different political view have to be an ENEMY?

It’s because BLM really can’t defend their agenda, so they silence all dissenters. They will not enter into an actual discussion of reality and facts.

It’s so transparent.
Because the BLM is a racist hate group that has murdered policeman.
The people who are trying to defend BLM are fighting against reality and losing.

The BLM has NOT murdered Policemen. They have been very peaceful. You can't justify your bigotry with lying and expect everyone else to buy into it.
 
Why are people fired and silenced for not agreeing with the Black Lives Matter agenda?

Doesn’t it seem counter to the free speech culture we should have here?

Why does someone with a different political view have to be an ENEMY?

It’s because BLM really can’t defend their agenda, so they silence all dissenters. They will not enter into an actual discussion of reality and facts.



It’s so transparent.
So, youre going to explain to them why their lives dont matter?

No, they need to explain why only select black lives matter. They lose their shit if you respond “All Lives Matter” but if you watch how BLM reacts to George Floyd’s tragic death yet ignore David Dorn’s tragic death, it is very clear that only black lives that fit an agenda matter.
BLM is a reminder which apparently many people chose to ignore.

“It’s important for us to also understand that the phrase ‘Black Lives Matter’ simply refers to the notion that there’s a specific vulnerability for African Americans that needs to be addressed. It’s not meant to suggest that other lives don’t matter. It’s to suggest that other folks aren’t experiencing this particular vulnerability.”
President Barack Obama

Not really, even the Obama administration didn't think BLM was a viable organization:

Friendly Reminder: Multiple Studies Don’t Back Up Any of the Black Lives Matter Talking Points

LINK
So they're saying Black Lives Don't Matter?
BLM is one trick pony, convincing America that blacks lives do matter and thus inspiring people to take action. Exactly what that action is other than protesting remains undefined.

BLM is focused on a very select set of Black Lives that meet the condition of dying while in Police custody or at the hands of Police. Contrast the frequency of this occurrence with the number of Black lives lost on a daily basis to violence.
Why do you whites keep telling yourself these lies? Every year since 1994 I've looked at the UCR. Every year since 1994 whites have led in violent crime. Every time a white cop murders someone black you sorry racists bitches start this bullshit. The police should not be killing anybody who is not armed or who is not actually trying to take the cops life. It looked like he had a gun is not that. In 2018 whites willed 2677 other whites. Blacks killed 2600 other blacks.

There are 30 categories of crimes listed in the UCR. Murder is one category. In 2018, out of the 30 categories of crime, whites lead in 27. Whites are approximately 70 percent of the population and led in 90 percent of the crime categories. Less than 1/2 of 1 percent of the deaths in America were murders. There were a total of 8957 murders in all races in 2018. There were over 12,000 rapes by whites in 2018 alone. Blacks had less than half that with 5,376.

Start talking about white violence.

How am I a white racist because I question BLM? You fling that racist card at every turn. Make sure check the stats on the number of whites killed by police.

Oh you poor misunderstood creature! How can you stand the injustice?

Except that you're not "questioning" BLM. You're seeking to undermine the organization by deflecting from the issue of police brutality, and the very serious problem of American police shooting over 1000 Americans, mostly minorities, on the streets of your nation.

You also seem to be saying that BLM needs to stop black on black crime, before they address the issue of police brutality and over-policing of black communities. These are entirely separate issues, with entirely different solutions.

Every time I see American police interacting with civilians, they're running in, throwing people around and trying to act bad ass before even asking what's going on. Some who says "What's going on?" is attacked, thrown to the ground, swarmed by three of four police, handcuffed and dragged off.

An white American acquaintance, married to a 40 year old middle class black accountant, had her husband nearly shot to death at the convenience store 2 blocks from their house when a customer in the parking lot called police about a large black man casing the local 7-11. Police arrived with guns drawn, and refused to believe her husband when he said "I'm an accountant. I live 2 blocks from here". It wasn't until another white neighbour arrived at the 7/11 and said "I know this man. He's my neighbour", that the officers dropped their guns. The college educated black professional's word wasn't good enough.
Every time a white cop murders someone black they always try to dodge the real problem by brining up their fallacy about black on black crime.
well yes. And we both know why. The cop's actions are indefensible. Sometimes they may be understandable, and not because a cop is overtly racist, but still indefensible. And bringing up black on black crime is simply a bait and switch from having to discuss the even more problematic issue of systemic racism.
Racism was part of this, especially given the record of this department.
Of course racism was a the core of George Floyd's killing, and the Trumpanzees raise the issue of black on black crime in an attempt to not accept or condemn what happened to Floyd and others.

And that's why this thread is a steaming pile of Trump shit they eat up gladly
 
Why are people fired and silenced for not agreeing with the Black Lives Matter agenda?

Doesn’t it seem counter to the free speech culture we should have here?

Why does someone with a different political view have to be an ENEMY?

It’s because BLM really can’t defend their agenda, so they silence all dissenters. They will not enter into an actual discussion of reality and facts.



It’s so transparent.
So, youre going to explain to them why their lives dont matter?

No, they need to explain why only select black lives matter. They lose their shit if you respond “All Lives Matter” but if you watch how BLM reacts to George Floyd’s tragic death yet ignore David Dorn’s tragic death, it is very clear that only black lives that fit an agenda matter.
BLM is a reminder which apparently many people chose to ignore.

“It’s important for us to also understand that the phrase ‘Black Lives Matter’ simply refers to the notion that there’s a specific vulnerability for African Americans that needs to be addressed. It’s not meant to suggest that other lives don’t matter. It’s to suggest that other folks aren’t experiencing this particular vulnerability.”
President Barack Obama

Not really, even the Obama administration didn't think BLM was a viable organization:

Friendly Reminder: Multiple Studies Don’t Back Up Any of the Black Lives Matter Talking Points

LINK
So they're saying Black Lives Don't Matter?
BLM is one trick pony, convincing America that blacks lives do matter and thus inspiring people to take action. Exactly what that action is other than protesting remains undefined.

BLM is focused on a very select set of Black Lives that meet the condition of dying while in Police custody or at the hands of Police. Contrast the frequency of this occurrence with the number of Black lives lost on a daily basis to violence.
Why do you whites keep telling yourself these lies? Every year since 1994 I've looked at the UCR. Every year since 1994 whites have led in violent crime. Every time a white cop murders someone black you sorry racists bitches start this bullshit. The police should not be killing anybody who is not armed or who is not actually trying to take the cops life. It looked like he had a gun is not that. In 2018 whites willed 2677 other whites. Blacks killed 2600 other blacks.

There are 30 categories of crimes listed in the UCR. Murder is one category. In 2018, out of the 30 categories of crime, whites lead in 27. Whites are approximately 70 percent of the population and led in 90 percent of the crime categories. Less than 1/2 of 1 percent of the deaths in America were murders. There were a total of 8957 murders in all races in 2018. There were over 12,000 rapes by whites in 2018 alone. Blacks had less than half that with 5,376.

Start talking about white violence.

How am I a white racist because I question BLM? You fling that racist card at every turn. Make sure check the stats on the number of whites killed by police.

Oh you poor misunderstood creature! How can you stand the injustice?

Except that you're not "questioning" BLM. You're seeking to undermine the organization by deflecting from the issue of police brutality, and the very serious problem of American police shooting over 1000 Americans, mostly minorities, on the streets of your nation.

You also seem to be saying that BLM needs to stop black on black crime, before they address the issue of police brutality and over-policing of black communities. These are entirely separate issues, with entirely different solutions.

Every time I see American police interacting with civilians, they're running in, throwing people around and trying to act bad ass before even asking what's going on. Some who says "What's going on?" is attacked, thrown to the ground, swarmed by three of four police, handcuffed and dragged off.

An white American acquaintance, married to a 40 year old middle class black accountant, had her husband nearly shot to death at the convenience store 2 blocks from their house when a customer in the parking lot called police about a large black man casing the local 7-11. Police arrived with guns drawn, and refused to believe her husband when he said "I'm an accountant. I live 2 blocks from here". It wasn't until another white neighbour arrived at the 7/11 and said "I know this man. He's my neighbour", that the officers dropped their guns. The college educated black professional's word wasn't good enough.
Every time a white cop murders someone black they always try to dodge the real problem by brining up their fallacy about black on black crime.
well yes. And we both know why. The cop's actions are indefensible. Sometimes they may be understandable, and not because a cop is overtly racist, but still indefensible. And bringing up black on black crime is simply a bait and switch from having to discuss the even more problematic issue of systemic racism.
Racism was part of this, especially given the record of this department.
Of course racism was a the core of George Floyd's killing, and the Trumpanzees raise the issue of black on black crime in an attempt to not accept or condemn what happened to Floyd and others.

And that's why this thread is a steaming pile of Trump shit they eat up gladly

Not true. Everyone was unified and remains unified in getting justice for Floyd. But that wasn’t enough for BLM nor have they moved beyond “No Justice, No Peace”, “Defund the Police”, “So what if there are looters and rioters?”

What specific reforms / practices does BLM want? What new procedures should be in place?
 
Why are people fired and silenced for not agreeing with the Black Lives Matter agenda?

Doesn’t it seem counter to the free speech culture we should have here?

Why does someone with a different political view have to be an ENEMY?

It’s because BLM really can’t defend their agenda, so they silence all dissenters. They will not enter into an actual discussion of reality and facts.

It’s so transparent.

Did you say the same when Trump Called for those peacefully protesting to be fired?

When Pence walked out on them?

Why didn't they bring them to the White House to discuss the issues?
What evidence do you have that those protesters didnt also commit acts of violence and vandalism?

It doesn't work that way. This is America. What proof do YOU have that they did?
This isnt a court of law, numb nuts. This is the court of public opinion, and i see no evidence that all the protesters you are saying are peaceful, are in fact peaceful.

I see more evidence that the looters and Rioters are NOT black and aren't even from those neighborhoods. I see evidence that it's not race riots. I see evidence that it's imported organized crime. And I see evidence that you are a fascist bigot.
What does race have to do with this? These are democrat rioters.
 
Why are people fired and silenced for not agreeing with the Black Lives Matter agenda?

Doesn’t it seem counter to the free speech culture we should have here?

Why does someone with a different political view have to be an ENEMY?

It’s because BLM really can’t defend their agenda, so they silence all dissenters. They will not enter into an actual discussion of reality and facts.

It’s so transparent.

Did you say the same when Trump Called for those peacefully protesting to be fired?

When Pence walked out on them?

Why didn't they bring them to the White House to discuss the issues?
What evidence do you have that those protesters didnt also commit acts of violence and vandalism?

What percentage of the protestors committed acts of violence and vandalism?
Most.

In Denver, day one had violence, looting and rioting by people that were mostly white. Day 2, the Cops were marching with the protesters (not trying to intimidate) and the National Guard was stationed on the street corners without malice. The Looters and Rioters disappeared completely. They moved on to other cities that were more easily influenced. Those rioters and looters are not race related. They are imported Criminals. And the more you type, the more you confirm that you are a Racist Bigot.
Again, who mentioned race? Youre calling me a racist when i have said a single thing about the race of the rioters. :cuckoo:
 
Why are people fired and silenced for not agreeing with the Black Lives Matter agenda?

Doesn’t it seem counter to the free speech culture we should have here?

Why does someone with a different political view have to be an ENEMY?

It’s because BLM really can’t defend their agenda, so they silence all dissenters. They will not enter into an actual discussion of reality and facts.



It’s so transparent.
So, youre going to explain to them why their lives dont matter?

No, they need to explain why only select black lives matter. They lose their shit if you respond “All Lives Matter” but if you watch how BLM reacts to George Floyd’s tragic death yet ignore David Dorn’s tragic death, it is very clear that only black lives that fit an agenda matter.
BLM is a reminder which apparently many people chose to ignore.

“It’s important for us to also understand that the phrase ‘Black Lives Matter’ simply refers to the notion that there’s a specific vulnerability for African Americans that needs to be addressed. It’s not meant to suggest that other lives don’t matter. It’s to suggest that other folks aren’t experiencing this particular vulnerability.”
President Barack Obama

Not really, even the Obama administration didn't think BLM was a viable organization:

Friendly Reminder: Multiple Studies Don’t Back Up Any of the Black Lives Matter Talking Points

LINK
So they're saying Black Lives Don't Matter?
BLM is one trick pony, convincing America that blacks lives do matter and thus inspiring people to take action. Exactly what that action is other than protesting remains undefined.

BLM is focused on a very select set of Black Lives that meet the condition of dying while in Police custody or at the hands of Police. Contrast the frequency of this occurrence with the number of Black lives lost on a daily basis to violence.
Why do you whites keep telling yourself these lies? Every year since 1994 I've looked at the UCR. Every year since 1994 whites have led in violent crime. Every time a white cop murders someone black you sorry racists bitches start this bullshit. The police should not be killing anybody who is not armed or who is not actually trying to take the cops life. It looked like he had a gun is not that. In 2018 whites willed 2677 other whites. Blacks killed 2600 other blacks.

There are 30 categories of crimes listed in the UCR. Murder is one category. In 2018, out of the 30 categories of crime, whites lead in 27. Whites are approximately 70 percent of the population and led in 90 percent of the crime categories. Less than 1/2 of 1 percent of the deaths in America were murders. There were a total of 8957 murders in all races in 2018. There were over 12,000 rapes by whites in 2018 alone. Blacks had less than half that with 5,376.

Start talking about white violence.

How am I a white racist because I question BLM? You fling that racist card at every turn. Make sure check the stats on the number of whites killed by police.

Oh you poor misunderstood creature! How can you stand the injustice?

Except that you're not "questioning" BLM. You're seeking to undermine the organization by deflecting from the issue of police brutality, and the very serious problem of American police shooting over 1000 Americans, mostly minorities, on the streets of your nation.

You also seem to be saying that BLM needs to stop black on black crime, before they address the issue of police brutality and over-policing of black communities. These are entirely separate issues, with entirely different solutions.

Every time I see American police interacting with civilians, they're running in, throwing people around and trying to act bad ass before even asking what's going on. Some who says "What's going on?" is attacked, thrown to the ground, swarmed by three of four police, handcuffed and dragged off.

An white American acquaintance, married to a 40 year old middle class black accountant, had her husband nearly shot to death at the convenience store 2 blocks from their house when a customer in the parking lot called police about a large black man casing the local 7-11. Police arrived with guns drawn, and refused to believe her husband when he said "I'm an accountant. I live 2 blocks from here". It wasn't until another white neighbour arrived at the 7/11 and said "I know this man. He's my neighbour", that the officers dropped their guns. The college educated black professional's word wasn't good enough.
Every time a white cop murders someone black they always try to dodge the real problem by brining up their fallacy about black on black crime.
well yes. And we both know why. The cop's actions are indefensible. Sometimes they may be understandable, and not because a cop is overtly racist, but still indefensible. And bringing up black on black crime is simply a bait and switch from having to discuss the even more problematic issue of systemic racism.
Racism was part of this, especially given the record of this department.
Of course racism was a the core of George Floyd's killing, and the Trumpanzees raise the issue of black on black crime in an attempt to not accept or condemn what happened to Floyd and others.

And that's why this thread is a steaming pile of Trump shit they eat up gladly

Not true. Everyone was unified and remains unified in getting justice for Floyd. But that wasn’t enough for BLM nor have they moved beyond “No Justice, No Peace”, “Defund the Police”, “So what if there are looters and rioters?”

What specific reforms / practices does BLM want? What new procedures should be in place?
Furthermore, what change are they going to make that will stop people from committing murder in the future? Murder is already illegal, so what possible rule or law is going to stop murderers?
 
Why doesn’t Black Lives Matter welcome robust debate with people who disagree?
Because they'd lose?
BLM doesn't want debate, they simply want might.
Like all Tards, they are too convinced of their right and superior position to even legitimize "debate."

Anyone can see that in the light of truly strong debate all their arguments fall apart.
So you disagree that Black lives matter?
Where did I ever say that, fucknot? Get your head out of your ass and try to READ with the rest of the class. I said they don't want to debate the ISSUES, because they would LOSE, because their agenda is to put all the blame and responsibility on other parties, share none of it themselves, with the goal of effecting power over others as a privileged class, not to merely lessen police violence.

The sad fact is that black people as a class of society are generally more often involved in crime and have a problem with authority leading to more interactions wirth the police per populace and more of those BAD interactions. This has lead to profiling and general suspicions and expectations which then unfortunately falls upon many totally innocent black people as well. Bottom line: we need greater education and opportunity for minorities, which would lead to less crime, which would lead to less profiling, fewer police interactions and better ones at that.

It is a universal problem and if BLM thinks some magic wand of "police reform" will not only not make matters worse without addressing the rest of the equation, they (and we) have another thing coming.

Between Covid, the economic collapse resulting from the shutdowns, and now this institutionalized crime wave along with the vilification of the police, we are in for hard times ahead.
 
Why are people fired and silenced for not agreeing with the Black Lives Matter agenda?

Doesn’t it seem counter to the free speech culture we should have here?

Why does someone with a different political view have to be an ENEMY?

It’s because BLM really can’t defend their agenda, so they silence all dissenters. They will not enter into an actual discussion of reality and facts.

It’s so transparent.

Did you say the same when Trump Called for those peacefully protesting to be fired?

When Pence walked out on them?

Why didn't they bring them to the White House to discuss the issues?
What evidence do you have that those protesters didnt also commit acts of violence and vandalism?

It doesn't work that way. This is America. What proof do YOU have that they did?
This isnt a court of law, numb nuts. This is the court of public opinion, and i see no evidence that all the protesters you are saying are peaceful, are in fact peaceful.

I see more evidence that the looters and Rioters are NOT black and aren't even from those neighborhoods. I see evidence that it's not race riots. I see evidence that it's imported organized crime. And I see evidence that you are a fascist bigot.
What does race have to do with this? These are democrat rioters.

Are they? They aren't being caught. They are too organized and leave just before the authorities move into the area. You have no proof that they are anything other than criminals. Most aren't even black. Or are you one of the ones financing them so they can keep everything stirred up so you can lie about what's happening. Sorry, be most of us aren't buying what you are selling. According to the latest Gallup Poll, it's Rump at 36% and dropping.
 
Why are people fired and silenced for not agreeing with the Black Lives Matter agenda?

Doesn’t it seem counter to the free speech culture we should have here?

Why does someone with a different political view have to be an ENEMY?

It’s because BLM really can’t defend their agenda, so they silence all dissenters. They will not enter into an actual discussion of reality and facts.

It’s so transparent.
Start a debate. Do you think it's OK for cops and vigilantes to shoot unarmed black people?

Straw man.
 
This is the reality of the protests the racists here don't want to admit. Peaceful protesters, angry white agitators who loot and vandalize.

Black Protester Recaps Staring Down White Agitator


Ha ha ha, this a problem YOU have since you ignore the opposite many times, there are plenty of videos showing blacks looting, assaulting people.

Your prejudice is so obvious......, you hate against whites is obvious.


And yet, you ignore the fact that many of the most recent Looters and Rioters are white. You want to place all the blame on a skin color (Black). Last week, it was brown.

From the 14 points of Fascism.


  • Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
    The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
Today it's the Black community. Last week, it was the Socialists. Before that it was the Brown people. Before that it was the Communists. This directly caused the deaths of over 6 million of one group. But it also caused at least that many deaths of Slavs as well. That brings up the next point.


  • Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
    Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
And then the next.


  • Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
    Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
And then the next


  • Corporate Power is Protected
    The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
And it continues.


  • Obsession with National Security
    Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
There are 14 points. When you obtain all 14, the Nation is setup for a Fascist Leader to emerge. We are sitting solid with 12 out of those 14 and attempts to cement the last two. The only two things standing in the way right now to a complete setup for a Fascist takeover is the US Military and Congress.

To give you an idea, in order to setup a fascist Government, the Fascist leader will need to control 2/3rds of the Congress or render it powerless and either control or abolish the Supreme Court. He will also have to get the backing of the Corporate Businesses and the Military. Then either take over or discredit the Free Press and support the presses that fully support the "Leader". The "Leader" doesn't have to eliminate the other side, just render it ineffective.

And the "Leader" is going to bide his time until there is a major National Emergency where he can consolidate his power. In case you haven't noticed, we have two potential national emergencies running right now. And with 12 of the 14 points of Fascism already obtained, it's just a short step to the destruction of the Nation as we know it.

History is a wonderful thing when it's used for good. To deny it is never a good thing. What I am doing is using the Mussolini Manifesto of 1923. You might say it was a fluke but Hitler used it to setup his own Fascist Government in Germany. Hitler didn't invent a thing on how to obtain power. He followed Mussolini's manifesto. And so did Spain but Spain was a more Benevolent version (if you can call it that). Franco didn't take it the last step and go for the Dictator that the other two did and Fascism survived in Spain until at least 1974 and beyond.

There are only two "Manifestos" standing in the way of that happening and that is the Constitution of the United States and the Uniform Code of Military Justice (the Military version of the Constitution). How about we keep those two documents going and throw the rest out instead of the other way around.


Gosh another one who manufacture this unsupported, unquoted belief that I deny whites riots and loot, I have seen the videos of whites doing it. Heck here is MY post YOU responded to:

"Ha ha ha, this a problem YOU have since you ignore the opposite many times, there are plenty of videos showing blacks looting, assaulting people.

Your prejudice is so obvious......, you hate against whites is obvious."

Where do I deny whites riot?

Do you understand the word OPPOSITE?

The rest of your post is gibberish........


It's only gibberish to those that are guilty of doing it. Guess what, you are a Fascist Bigot big time.


Then you have no argument to offer, just as I expected.

You never did back up your prejudice, just as I expected.

You have nothing here Daryl.
 
While the country mourns the death of a man killed by a policeman (Mr. Floyd), over 40 policemen were injure, maimed, and killed during the riots, looting and vandalism. I don't think that one justifies the other. One bad action does not give anyone the right to damage, attack and kill others.

"Las Vegas police officer shot in head may need ventilator for rest of his life, family says." The Las Vegas police officer shot in the head while attempting to disperse a group of protesters on the Strip last week will likely remain on a ventilator for the rest of his life, his family said Tuesday, June 9. The family of Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Officer Shay Mikalonis, 29, gave an update on his condition in a statement released through the department. “Shay is on a ventilator and will be for the foreseeable future or perhaps the rest of his life,” the statement said.


Every drop of blood is on the hands of the left and I blame us on the right for passively allowing them to get away with this.

We deserve what we get for being tolerant of these unreal scumbag cultural marxists. History repeating.....again and again and again and again.

Let's get back to our sports and Lord knows whatever else. It will just all go away.
My experience has been that protesters rarely get involved in rioting, looting and vandalism. Petty criminals and those that are determine to strike back at society use protests as a cover. Generally the violence does not occur during the organized protest but usually latter in the day when streets still crowded and police are busy. Protest are a vital part of our country. In fact, the country was founded in protest and since then just about every major social advance has been brought about by public protest.

Protests may subside but they won't go away until we find a way to fix law enforcement and our criminal justice system in general.
 
Why are people fired and silenced for not agreeing with the Black Lives Matter agenda?

Doesn’t it seem counter to the free speech culture we should have here?

Why does someone with a different political view have to be an ENEMY?

It’s because BLM really can’t defend their agenda, so they silence all dissenters. They will not enter into an actual discussion of reality and facts.

It’s so transparent.
So, youre going to explain to them why their lives dont matter?

No, they need to explain why only select black lives matter. They lose their shit if you respond “All Lives Matter” but if you watch how BLM reacts to George Floyd’s tragic death yet ignore David Dorn’s tragic death, it is very clear that only black lives that fit an agenda matter.
BLM is a reminder which apparently many people chose to ignore.

“It’s important for us to also understand that the phrase ‘Black Lives Matter’ simply refers to the notion that there’s a specific vulnerability for African Americans that needs to be addressed. It’s not meant to suggest that other lives don’t matter. It’s to suggest that other folks aren’t experiencing this particular vulnerability.”
President Barack Obama

Not really, even the Obama administration didn't think BLM was a viable organization:

Friendly Reminder: Multiple Studies Don’t Back Up Any of the Black Lives Matter Talking Points

LINK
So they're saying Black Lives Don't Matter?
BLM is one trick pony, convincing America that blacks lives do matter and thus inspiring people to take action. Exactly what that action is other than protesting remains undefined.

BLM is focused on a very select set of Black Lives that meet the condition of dying while in Police custody or at the hands of Police. Contrast the frequency of this occurrence with the number of Black lives lost on a daily basis to violence.
It's pretty hard to generate public support for a black single mother whose unable to properly raise her kids and sees them fall into crime and violence. It's just not that dramatic and there is no clear villain except society but it's just as important if not more so.
 
Why are people fired and silenced for not agreeing with the Black Lives Matter agenda?

Doesn’t it seem counter to the free speech culture we should have here?

Why does someone with a different political view have to be an ENEMY?

It’s because BLM really can’t defend their agenda, so they silence all dissenters. They will not enter into an actual discussion of reality and facts.

It’s so transparent.
So, youre going to explain to them why their lives dont matter?

No, they need to explain why only select black lives matter. They lose their shit if you respond “All Lives Matter” but if you watch how BLM reacts to George Floyd’s tragic death yet ignore David Dorn’s tragic death, it is very clear that only black lives that fit an agenda matter.
BLM is a reminder which apparently many people chose to ignore.

“It’s important for us to also understand that the phrase ‘Black Lives Matter’ simply refers to the notion that there’s a specific vulnerability for African Americans that needs to be addressed. It’s not meant to suggest that other lives don’t matter. It’s to suggest that other folks aren’t experiencing this particular vulnerability.”
President Barack Obama

Not really, even the Obama administration didn't think BLM was a viable organization:

Friendly Reminder: Multiple Studies Don’t Back Up Any of the Black Lives Matter Talking Points

LINK
So they're saying Black Lives Don't Matter?
BLM is one trick pony, convincing America that blacks lives do matter and thus inspiring people to take action. Exactly what that action is other than protesting remains undefined.

BLM is focused on a very select set of Black Lives that meet the condition of dying while in Police custody or at the hands of Police. Contrast the frequency of this occurrence with the number of Black lives lost on a daily basis to violence.
It's pretty hard to generate public support for a black single mother whose unable to properly raise her kids and sees them fall into crime and violence. It's just not that dramatic and there is no clear villain except society but it's just as important if not more so.

I can accept that to a point. How about protests and appeals to stop violence. Not a magic bullet but a starter. I’d back subsidized higher education and vocational technical schools to provide a path and true hope.
 
This is the reality of the protests the racists here don't want to admit. Peaceful protesters, angry white agitators who loot and vandalize.

Black Protester Recaps Staring Down White Agitator


Ha ha ha, this a problem YOU have since you ignore the opposite many times, there are plenty of videos showing blacks looting, assaulting people.

Your prejudice is so obvious......, you hate against whites is obvious.


And yet, you ignore the fact that many of the most recent Looters and Rioters are white. You want to place all the blame on a skin color (Black). Last week, it was brown.

From the 14 points of Fascism.


  • Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
    The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
Today it's the Black community. Last week, it was the Socialists. Before that it was the Brown people. Before that it was the Communists. This directly caused the deaths of over 6 million of one group. But it also caused at least that many deaths of Slavs as well. That brings up the next point.


  • Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
    Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
And then the next.


  • Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
    Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
And then the next


  • Corporate Power is Protected
    The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
And it continues.


  • Obsession with National Security
    Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
There are 14 points. When you obtain all 14, the Nation is setup for a Fascist Leader to emerge. We are sitting solid with 12 out of those 14 and attempts to cement the last two. The only two things standing in the way right now to a complete setup for a Fascist takeover is the US Military and Congress.

To give you an idea, in order to setup a fascist Government, the Fascist leader will need to control 2/3rds of the Congress or render it powerless and either control or abolish the Supreme Court. He will also have to get the backing of the Corporate Businesses and the Military. Then either take over or discredit the Free Press and support the presses that fully support the "Leader". The "Leader" doesn't have to eliminate the other side, just render it ineffective.

And the "Leader" is going to bide his time until there is a major National Emergency where he can consolidate his power. In case you haven't noticed, we have two potential national emergencies running right now. And with 12 of the 14 points of Fascism already obtained, it's just a short step to the destruction of the Nation as we know it.

History is a wonderful thing when it's used for good. To deny it is never a good thing. What I am doing is using the Mussolini Manifesto of 1923. You might say it was a fluke but Hitler used it to setup his own Fascist Government in Germany. Hitler didn't invent a thing on how to obtain power. He followed Mussolini's manifesto. And so did Spain but Spain was a more Benevolent version (if you can call it that). Franco didn't take it the last step and go for the Dictator that the other two did and Fascism survived in Spain until at least 1974 and beyond.

There are only two "Manifestos" standing in the way of that happening and that is the Constitution of the United States and the Uniform Code of Military Justice (the Military version of the Constitution). How about we keep those two documents going and throw the rest out instead of the other way around.


Gosh another one who manufacture this unsupported, unquoted belief that I deny whites riots and loot, I have seen the videos of whites doing it. Heck here is MY post YOU responded to:

"Ha ha ha, this a problem YOU have since you ignore the opposite many times, there are plenty of videos showing blacks looting, assaulting people.

Your prejudice is so obvious......, you hate against whites is obvious."

Where do I deny whites riot?

Do you understand the word OPPOSITE?

The rest of your post is gibberish........


It's only gibberish to those that are guilty of doing it. Guess what, you are a Fascist Bigot big time.


Then you have no argument to offer, just as I expected.

You never did back up your prejudice, just as I expected.

You have nothing here Daryl.


I already made the case. It's you that is trying to deflect. Sorry, it didn't work out for you. Now, just grab your football, announce that you are the winner and go home. We'll all understand.
 
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Why are people fired and silenced for not agreeing with the Black Lives Matter agenda?

Doesn’t it seem counter to the free speech culture we should have here?

Why does someone with a different political view have to be an ENEMY?

It’s because BLM really can’t defend their agenda, so they silence all dissenters. They will not enter into an actual discussion of reality and facts.

It’s so transparent.
So, youre going to explain to them why their lives dont matter?

No, they need to explain why only select black lives matter. They lose their shit if you respond “All Lives Matter” but if you watch how BLM reacts to George Floyd’s tragic death yet ignore David Dorn’s tragic death, it is very clear that only black lives that fit an agenda matter.
BLM is a reminder which apparently many people chose to ignore.

“It’s important for us to also understand that the phrase ‘Black Lives Matter’ simply refers to the notion that there’s a specific vulnerability for African Americans that needs to be addressed. It’s not meant to suggest that other lives don’t matter. It’s to suggest that other folks aren’t experiencing this particular vulnerability.”
President Barack Obama

Not really, even the Obama administration didn't think BLM was a viable organization:

Friendly Reminder: Multiple Studies Don’t Back Up Any of the Black Lives Matter Talking Points

LINK
So they're saying Black Lives Don't Matter?
BLM is one trick pony, convincing America that blacks lives do matter and thus inspiring people to take action. Exactly what that action is other than protesting remains undefined.

BLM is focused on a very select set of Black Lives that meet the condition of dying while in Police custody or at the hands of Police. Contrast the frequency of this occurrence with the number of Black lives lost on a daily basis to violence.
It's pretty hard to generate public support for a black single mother whose unable to properly raise her kids and sees them fall into crime and violence. It's just not that dramatic and there is no clear villain except society but it's just as important if not more so.

I can accept that to a point. How about protests and appeals to stop violence. Not a magic bullet but a starter. I’d back subsidized higher education and vocational technical schools to provide a path and true hope.
The basic problem is how do you actually stop the violence? It's pretty easy to walk around waving a sign but a lot harder to come up with a workable plan to stop police violence and still protect the community. The fact is most police killing are completely justified.

I think putting a lot more money into mental health and more people to work in the communities to solve problems will help. Right now if you call the Seattle Police department and tell them your neighbor is nutty as a loon and is dangerous, they might send a policemen out to talk to him and if he really seems mentally impaired the cop might try to get the person to agree to a trip to the ER. 3 days observation to see if he tries to kill himself or someone else then a trip back home with a prescription he will never fill.
 
This is the reality of the protests the racists here don't want to admit. Peaceful protesters, angry white agitators who loot and vandalize.

Black Protester Recaps Staring Down White Agitator


Ha ha ha, this a problem YOU have since you ignore the opposite many times, there are plenty of videos showing blacks looting, assaulting people.

Your prejudice is so obvious......, you hate against whites is obvious.


And yet, you ignore the fact that many of the most recent Looters and Rioters are white. You want to place all the blame on a skin color (Black). Last week, it was brown.

From the 14 points of Fascism.


  • Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
    The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
Today it's the Black community. Last week, it was the Socialists. Before that it was the Brown people. Before that it was the Communists. This directly caused the deaths of over 6 million of one group. But it also caused at least that many deaths of Slavs as well. That brings up the next point.


  • Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
    Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
And then the next.


  • Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
    Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
And then the next


  • Corporate Power is Protected
    The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
And it continues.


  • Obsession with National Security
    Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
There are 14 points. When you obtain all 14, the Nation is setup for a Fascist Leader to emerge. We are sitting solid with 12 out of those 14 and attempts to cement the last two. The only two things standing in the way right now to a complete setup for a Fascist takeover is the US Military and Congress.

To give you an idea, in order to setup a fascist Government, the Fascist leader will need to control 2/3rds of the Congress or render it powerless and either control or abolish the Supreme Court. He will also have to get the backing of the Corporate Businesses and the Military. Then either take over or discredit the Free Press and support the presses that fully support the "Leader". The "Leader" doesn't have to eliminate the other side, just render it ineffective.

And the "Leader" is going to bide his time until there is a major National Emergency where he can consolidate his power. In case you haven't noticed, we have two potential national emergencies running right now. And with 12 of the 14 points of Fascism already obtained, it's just a short step to the destruction of the Nation as we know it.

History is a wonderful thing when it's used for good. To deny it is never a good thing. What I am doing is using the Mussolini Manifesto of 1923. You might say it was a fluke but Hitler used it to setup his own Fascist Government in Germany. Hitler didn't invent a thing on how to obtain power. He followed Mussolini's manifesto. And so did Spain but Spain was a more Benevolent version (if you can call it that). Franco didn't take it the last step and go for the Dictator that the other two did and Fascism survived in Spain until at least 1974 and beyond.

There are only two "Manifestos" standing in the way of that happening and that is the Constitution of the United States and the Uniform Code of Military Justice (the Military version of the Constitution). How about we keep those two documents going and throw the rest out instead of the other way around.


Gosh another one who manufacture this unsupported, unquoted belief that I deny whites riots and loot, I have seen the videos of whites doing it. Heck here is MY post YOU responded to:

"Ha ha ha, this a problem YOU have since you ignore the opposite many times, there are plenty of videos showing blacks looting, assaulting people.

Your prejudice is so obvious......, you hate against whites is obvious."

Where do I deny whites riot?

Do you understand the word OPPOSITE?

The rest of your post is gibberish........


It's only gibberish to those that are guilty of doing it. Guess what, you are a Fascist Bigot big time.


Then you have no argument to offer, just as I expected.

You never did back up your prejudice, just as I expected.

You have nothing here Daryl.


I already made the case. It's you that is trying to deflect. Sorry, it didn't work out for you. Now, just grab your football, announce that you are the winner and go home. We'll all understand.

Actually, I made my case. Showed you how white liberals use you as pawns. That is all you are and all you will ever be to them.

I asked what it means to you how the worst most dilapidated cities in America, that are predominantly black, have been run by democrats for at least 50 years. Chicago, Philadelphia, Baltimore and on and on....

You ignore it, and I wonder why. You ignore that every bit of propaganda is to make you out to be some victim and that deeply offends actual Africans who SEE YOU as privileged. You have no clue what it is live like so many of them under true tyranny with no choice.

You parade around, posting on the internet, able to eat really anything, and CHOOSE A LIFE FOR YOURSELF and you still yell about how unfair things are.

What a number white racist liberal propaganda has done to you. You are a joke to Africans. Really. Go get coddled from those that pretend to care or to know the hood. They would never come close to the hood.

Quit acting like you made points. Really, to think Trump has been like Mussolini when actual things have never been better for blacks in this country thanks to Trump policies. He has done more for blacks in 2 years than obama did in 8 years.

You are a tool. A joke to the rest of the world. Live with that, and keep listening to their bullshit. You mental spoiled ignorant slave.
 
The simple fact is, as distasteful as it may be no one is paying attention without the violence. People tried to be peaceful and they were ridiculed and ignored.

This country was created with violence and the founders understood that from time to time it would be needed.

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

Thomas Jefferson.
 
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Why are people fired and silenced for not agreeing with the Black Lives Matter agenda?

Doesn’t it seem counter to the free speech culture we should have here?

Why does someone with a different political view have to be an ENEMY?

It’s because BLM really can’t defend their agenda, so they silence all dissenters. They will not enter into an actual discussion of reality and facts.

It’s so transparent.
So, youre going to explain to them why their lives dont matter?

No, they need to explain why only select black lives matter. They lose their shit if you respond “All Lives Matter” but if you watch how BLM reacts to George Floyd’s tragic death yet ignore David Dorn’s tragic death, it is very clear that only black lives that fit an agenda matter.
BLM is a reminder which apparently many people chose to ignore.

“It’s important for us to also understand that the phrase ‘Black Lives Matter’ simply refers to the notion that there’s a specific vulnerability for African Americans that needs to be addressed. It’s not meant to suggest that other lives don’t matter. It’s to suggest that other folks aren’t experiencing this particular vulnerability.”
President Barack Obama

Not really, even the Obama administration didn't think BLM was a viable organization:

Friendly Reminder: Multiple Studies Don’t Back Up Any of the Black Lives Matter Talking Points

LINK
So they're saying Black Lives Don't Matter?
BLM is one trick pony, convincing America that blacks lives do matter and thus inspiring people to take action. Exactly what that action is other than protesting remains undefined.

BLM is focused on a very select set of Black Lives that meet the condition of dying while in Police custody or at the hands of Police. Contrast the frequency of this occurrence with the number of Black lives lost on a daily basis to violence.
It's pretty hard to generate public support for a black single mother whose unable to properly raise her kids and sees them fall into crime and violence. It's just not that dramatic and there is no clear villain except society but it's just as important if not more so.

I can accept that to a point. How about protests and appeals to stop violence. Not a magic bullet but a starter. I’d back subsidized higher education and vocational technical schools to provide a path and true hope.
The basic problem is how do you actually stop the violence? It's pretty easy to walk around waving a sign but a lot harder to come up with a workable plan to stop police violence and still protect the community. The fact is most police killing are completely justified.

I think putting a lot more money into mental health and more people to work in the communities to solve problems will help. Right now if you call the Seattle Police department and tell them your neighbor is nutty as a loon and is dangerous, they might send a policemen out to talk to him and if he really seems mentally impaired the cop might try to get the person to agree to a trip to the ER. 3 days observation to see if he tries to kill himself or someone else then a trip back home with a prescription he will never fill.
No killing is justified. Giving police the right to think that way is why we are in this position as a country.
 
Why are people fired and silenced for not agreeing with the Black Lives Matter agenda?

Doesn’t it seem counter to the free speech culture we should have here?

Why does someone with a different political view have to be an ENEMY?

It’s because BLM really can’t defend their agenda, so they silence all dissenters. They will not enter into an actual discussion of reality and facts.

It’s so transparent.
So, youre going to explain to them why their lives dont matter?

No, they need to explain why only select black lives matter. They lose their shit if you respond “All Lives Matter” but if you watch how BLM reacts to George Floyd’s tragic death yet ignore David Dorn’s tragic death, it is very clear that only black lives that fit an agenda matter.
BLM is a reminder which apparently many people chose to ignore.

“It’s important for us to also understand that the phrase ‘Black Lives Matter’ simply refers to the notion that there’s a specific vulnerability for African Americans that needs to be addressed. It’s not meant to suggest that other lives don’t matter. It’s to suggest that other folks aren’t experiencing this particular vulnerability.”
President Barack Obama

Not really, even the Obama administration didn't think BLM was a viable organization:

Friendly Reminder: Multiple Studies Don’t Back Up Any of the Black Lives Matter Talking Points

LINK
So they're saying Black Lives Don't Matter?
BLM is one trick pony, convincing America that blacks lives do matter and thus inspiring people to take action. Exactly what that action is other than protesting remains undefined.

BLM is focused on a very select set of Black Lives that meet the condition of dying while in Police custody or at the hands of Police. Contrast the frequency of this occurrence with the number of Black lives lost on a daily basis to violence.
It's pretty hard to generate public support for a black single mother whose unable to properly raise her kids and sees them fall into crime and violence. It's just not that dramatic and there is no clear villain except society but it's just as important if not more so.
The problem in that situation is lack of community development and retail businesses that provide youth with programs and jobs that take away idle time. Also decent wages paid equally regardless of race would mean mom does not work 2 jobs and can spend time with her children. Last, this stereotype reflects a distorted view of black communities. Single black women with children have boyfriends and that means there are men in that childs life.
 
Why are people fired and silenced for not agreeing with the Black Lives Matter agenda?

Doesn’t it seem counter to the free speech culture we should have here?

Why does someone with a different political view have to be an ENEMY?

It’s because BLM really can’t defend their agenda, so they silence all dissenters. They will not enter into an actual discussion of reality and facts.

It’s so transparent.
Because the BLM is a racist hate group that has murdered policeman.
The people who are trying to defend BLM are fighting against reality and losing.

The BLM has NOT murdered Policemen. They have been very peaceful. You can't justify your bigotry with lying and expect everyone else to buy into it.
5 cops were murdered in Houston by a member of the BLM.
No they weren't. The 5 cops were killed in Dallas by a lone black shooter who was tired of police killing blacks. He was not a member of BLM.
 

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