Why Is Being Rich Bad?

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Did you know Mitt Romney bought an elevator for his car?!?

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What?!?! How could he do that?


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He didn't EARN that money!!!

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That's OUR money.



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Let's tax the rich more!



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Being rich isn't 'bad' in itself. Those who have much will have much expected from them, however, according to the major western religious influence. After all, they didn't get there by themselves; God helped.
 
Being rich isn't bad, buying political power, however, is about as bad as it gets.

What a crock of shit.....

If I were rich and donated 5 grand to Romney you would claim I'm trying to gain political power instead of supporting a candidate and that candidates views...

The truth is you progressives hate the rich because they have more than you do. You hate conservatives, republicans and libertarians because they oppose your socialist ideas. They work hard for what they have and you think you have a right to the fruits of their labor because they have more than you do....

It's really that fucking simple - now go ahead and deny that...

So in other words Nick,,you're for plutocracy. Glad you admit it even though plutocracy defiles what our Founding fathers had mind.

In what universe leads you to believe I think the rich should run the US via influence???

The only possible way you would arrive at that conclusion is because you already have a preconceived notion that the rich are evil....

If you fucking didn't know - our founding fathers believed strongly in property rights and individual rights - not collectivist big government socialist bullshit....

The government is not a charity nor should the government play the role of a charity by redistributing wealth...
 
Are you rich?

Those that have less would say that I am. Those that have more would laugh at how little I have. It's relative.

So do you mean the 'rich' you are or the 'rich' who laugh at so little?

As comfortable as you are saying so, how did you become rich?


I not so sure I follow what you are asking but I hardly think anyone would think that I am rich by any stretch of the imagination.

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Being "rich" is only bad under certain conditions. Here are the rules.

If you are conservative and rich = BAD!!! this is a very bad combo- you will use your wealth for nefarious purposes. All of your wealth must be taken and you will be personally attacked and vilified!!
If you are conservative and poor= GOOD!! This is a good combo. It proves that "you can't make it without help from the Gubmint".


If you are Liberal and rich
= GOOD!! You will use your wealth to save the planet, mankind, and puppies!! You are almost godlike and worthy of constant adulation and praise. We genuflect to your awesomeness and omnipotence!!
If you are Liberal and Poor = BAD!!! The evil Conservatives have conspired to enslave you!! You must be forgiven all debts, granted a lifetime income and a free place to live. You will never make it with the repressive white man, so we, the gubmint, are here to help you. You poor poor thing.....

All progressive/commie/liberal policies are designed to make conservatives poor or poorer, while making liberals richer or "more comfortable".

Crony capitalism and welfare dependency = stock in trade of the left.
 
See if you can reply without reference to Romney or Obama.

Why is it bad?

In and of itself it isn't bad. It is bad when it is gained on the back of the average or poor person. It is also bad if it fundamentally changes someone into feeling entitled in an exhorbitant way at the expense of others. And many wealthy people came from the poor or middle classes. I think they shouldn't forget that. I agree with VOLUNTARY distribution of wealth and think the feelings of true altruism are second to none. The good part of being wealthy can shine if people who are wealthy help others, not necessarily with a hand out but with an education in how to be successful and have the tools to use to strive to become better personally and financially.


I would venture to say that anyone who is self made seldom forgets where they came from. Those that inherit wealth tend to be less appreciative of it or the effort to earn it.

But nothing is 100% set in stone..there are always exceptions.
 
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Here is how the narrative works: Select a rich person to portray as somehow evil. Then use this to justify taking more money from all rich people.


THE PRESIDENT: No. There's a difference between playing by the same sets of rules and doing something illegal. And in no way have we suggested the latter.

You just did, Barack. You just did.

But the first disclosure, the one year of tax returns that he disclosed indicated that he used Swiss bank accounts, for example. Well, that may be perfectly legal, but I suspect if you ask the average American, do you have one and is that part of how you manage your tax obligations, they would say no.

Class warfare. "He has a Swiss bank account and you don't". A deliberate envy tactic.

And don't say he did anything illegal, but strongly imply it.

Remarks by the President to the White House Press Corps | The White House




But you know what, I’m not going to see us gut the investments that grow our economy to give tax breaks to me or Mr. Romney or folks who don’t need them. So I’m going to reduce the deficit in a balanced way. We’ve already made a trillion dollars’ worth of cuts. We can make another trillion or trillion-two, and what we then do is ask for the wealthy to pay a little bit more. (Applause.)

Remarks by the President at a Campaign Event in Roanoke, Virginia | The White House
 
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"This disposition to admire, and almost to worship , the rich and powerful, and to despise, or, at least neglect persons of poor and mean conditions...is...the great and most universal cause of the corruption of our moral sentiments." Adam Smith

Reading your signature makes it difficult to take anything you ask seriously.... "President Eisenhower describes his administration's political philosophy as 'dynamic conservatism,' then as 'progressive, dynamic conservatism,' then as 'progressive moderation,' then as 'moderate progressivism,' and then as 'positive progressivism.'" William Manchester

But that said have you ever read the Bible? "No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money." Matthew 6:24

It used to be money was not worshiped in America, today the right kowtows to money for it buys elections and thus power. Many consider our family rich and I have never heard a single person say that being rich is bad? But I understand why you say that - it is you who don't. Paradoxical huh, think about it.

The rich get rich because of their merit.


"The materialistic and selfish quality of contemporary life is not inherent in the human condition. Much of what appears natural today dates from the 1980s: the obsession with wealth creation, the cult of privatization and the private sector, the growing disparities of rich and poor. And above all, the rhetoric which accompanies these: uncritical admiration for unfettered markets, disdain for the public sector, the delusion of endless growth." Tony Judt 'Ill Fares the Land'
 
Have you ever heard of these things called lobbyists? Simply donating money is just fine, hiring people to grease palms is another thing entirely.

And in what universe are lobbyists unique to conservatives or republicans??

Seems you have absolutely no problem with lobbyists pandering to democrats or vice versa..... Funny how Obama is extremely friendly with businesses who use union labor and actually give them Obamacare waivers and additional incentives - and not one fucking word comes out of the DNC's mouth about corporatism - yet these same motherfuckers turn right around and claim republicans are in the pockets of big business...

I have never, ever claimed that democrats have some kind of monopoly on virtue, they are every bit as self interested and corrupt as any other group of politicians, however, there is a case to be made that the lion's share of lobbyist activity is directed towards protecting the interests of the rich so let's take an honest look at what party seems to protect their interests more even when it runs directly counter to the interests of the people at large.

So you expect poor people to have lobbyists?? oh yea they already do - elitist progressives who want a communist USSA where they dictate outcomes - where success depends on the government and not the individual...

Go ahead and admit that you don't believe corporations or any business has the right to be successful - admit that wealth should be shared equally via government dictation or intervention..
 
"This disposition to admire, and almost to worship , the rich and powerful, and to despise, or, at least neglect persons of poor and mean conditions...is...the great and most universal cause of the corruption of our moral sentiments." Adam Smith

Reading your signature makes it difficult to take anything you ask seriously.... "President Eisenhower describes his administration's political philosophy as 'dynamic conservatism,' then as 'progressive, dynamic conservatism,' then as 'progressive moderation,' then as 'moderate progressivism,' and then as 'positive progressivism.'" William Manchester

But that said have you ever read the Bible? "No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money." Matthew 6:24

It used to be money was not worshiped in America, today the right kowtows to money for it buys elections and thus power. Many consider our family rich and I have never heard a single person say that being rich is bad? But I understand why you say that - it is you who don't. Paradoxical huh, think about it.

The rich get rich because of their merit.


"The materialistic and selfish quality of contemporary life is not inherent in the human condition. Much of what appears natural today dates from the 1980s: the obsession with wealth creation, the cult of privatization and the private sector, the growing disparities of rich and poor. And above all, the rhetoric which accompanies these: uncritical admiration for unfettered markets, disdain for the public sector, the delusion of endless growth." Tony Judt 'Ill Fares the Land'


Thank you for your opinion and your personal attack and assumptions about me. If you're offended by my signature it may be because you identify with it. One could easily shred you on your avatar and signature as well. See how irrelevant a personal attack is to the question?
 
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"This disposition to admire, and almost to worship , the rich and powerful, and to despise, or, at least neglect persons of poor and mean conditions...is...the great and most universal cause of the corruption of our moral sentiments." Adam Smith

Reading your signature makes it difficult to take anything you ask seriously.... "President Eisenhower describes his administration's political philosophy as 'dynamic conservatism,' then as 'progressive, dynamic conservatism,' then as 'progressive moderation,' then as 'moderate progressivism,' and then as 'positive progressivism.'" William Manchester

But that said have you ever read the Bible? "No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money." Matthew 6:24

It used to be money was not worshiped in America, today the right kowtows to money for it buys elections and thus power. Many consider our family rich and I have never heard a single person say that being rich is bad? But I understand why you say that - it is you who don't. Paradoxical huh, think about it.

The rich get rich because of their merit.


"The materialistic and selfish quality of contemporary life is not inherent in the human condition. Much of what appears natural today dates from the 1980s: the obsession with wealth creation, the cult of privatization and the private sector, the growing disparities of rich and poor. And above all, the rhetoric which accompanies these: uncritical admiration for unfettered markets, disdain for the public sector, the delusion of endless growth." Tony Judt 'Ill Fares the Land'
James 4:2
You want something but don't get it. You kill and covet, but you cannot have what you want. You quarrel and fight. You do not have, because you do not ask God.
 

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