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The most common complaint I hear about Sanders is that he is going to tax you to death and give everyone free stuff.
1st of all, that's an oxymoron. If I pay more in taxes how are the things I get in return considered free.
Now to the specific complaint. The Sanders camp put out a press release outlining whose taxes he would raise and by how much.
The top marginal rate would increase from 39.6% to 52%. That seems like a substantial amount. No one pays the top marginal rate. After deductions and loopholes, your effective rate is much lower.
Example, on mitt Romney's 2011 tax form he payed 13% in federal tax even though he was in the top bracket.
DONT CONFUSE MARGINAL TAX RATES WITH EFFECTIVE TAX RATES.
He also wants a 0.5% tax on stock speculation.
In context this isn't near as dramatic as we are lead to believe.
Let's remember in the 3 decades after WW2 the top marginal rate was between 72%-90%. That's a HUGE tax rate and yet our economy experienced massive growth. So, empirically Bernie's tax rate would be much lower than the tax rate during our period of greatest economic growth.
His final tax would be to fund his Medicare for all plan. A 9% increase.
Now let's put that in context. I make $19 an hour and before Obama care went into effect I was paying $150 a week for private insurance with a $3000 deductible and $100 copays. Under Bernie's plan my taxes would increase by $70 a week, so do the math. $70 a week with no deductible or copay versus $150 a week plus copay and deductible.
Seems like Bernie's plan is cheaper than even PRE OBAMA insurance.
Now I know that no one likes discussing issues in context but there you go.
Slight increases in taxes for a substantial return.
College tuition, infrastructure, affordable healthcare. Yeah I will pay a little more for these things.
You obviously do not understand that Romney was not in the top bracket.
His income is mostly from capital gains which is classified differently than earned income
you might want to learn about the tax codes a little bit before you decide to tell people how they work
No, his earned income put him into the top bracket. Plus capital gains tax was over 20% if I am not mistaken.
The top bracket is $400000 he was definitely in that bracket. Then add to it his investment earnings. His deductions and loopholes definitely had him paying a lower rate
Sanders isn't hated. No one would waste that passion o Him. He is just one of the dumbest politicians in modern era, which is evident in that he proclaims socialism which was a failed idea for the past 100 years
Good answer. Forget reconstruction and the new deal, forget that Eisenhower and Roosevelt also had socialist policy positions that were instrumental in our massive growth and recovery post 1940's.
Let's just ignore recent history in the united States
The compliant is that according to him he wants to give some people "free stuff" of course those "some people" aren't the ones complaining, it's those that have to PAY for said "free stuff" that aren't too keen on ole Bernie's plans. The federal government is already deeply in debt with over $19 TRILLION in cumulative operating deficits and over $200 TRILLION in long term unfunded liabilities and Bernie wants to dig the hole deeper at a faster rate, apparently he thinks money just grows on trees and doesn't understand that those of us footing the bill actually have to WORK FOR IT.The most common complaint I hear about Sanders is that he is going to tax you to death and give everyone free stuff.
Then why even do it ? If nobody is going to pay it? Aren't you tired of Federal Government shell games? The Federal Tax Code needs to be SIMPLIFIED not made more complex so that career politicians like Bernie Sanders can play games while hiding what is really going on with OTHER PEOPLES Money.The top marginal rate would increase from 39.6% to 52%. That seems like a substantial amount. No one pays the top marginal rate. After deductions and loopholes, your effective rate is much lower.
Good, then start writing checks and stay the hell out of everybody Else's wallets.....You want something then YOU pay for it and let everybody else decide how to spend the fruits of their own labor.College tuition, infrastructure, affordable healthcare. Yeah I will pay a little more for these things.
The most common complaint I hear about Sanders is that he is going to tax you to death and give everyone free stuff.
1st of all, that's an oxymoron. If I pay more in taxes how are the things I get in return considered free.
Now to the specific complaint. The Sanders camp put out a press release outlining whose taxes he would raise and by how much.
The top marginal rate would increase from 39.6% to 52%. That seems like a substantial amount. No one pays the top marginal rate. After deductions and loopholes, your effective rate is much lower.
Example, on mitt Romney's 2011 tax form he payed 13% in federal tax even though he was in the top bracket.
DONT CONFUSE MARGINAL TAX RATES WITH EFFECTIVE TAX RATES.
He also wants a 0.5% tax on stock speculation.
In context this isn't near as dramatic as we are lead to believe.
Let's remember in the 3 decades after WW2 the top marginal rate was between 72%-90%. That's a HUGE tax rate and yet our economy experienced massive growth. So, empirically Bernie's tax rate would be much lower than the tax rate during our period of greatest economic growth.
His final tax would be to fund his Medicare for all plan. A 9% increase.
Now let's put that in context. I make $19 an hour and before Obama care went into effect I was paying $150 a week for private insurance with a $3000 deductible and $100 copays. Under Bernie's plan my taxes would increase by $70 a week, so do the math. $70 a week with no deductible or copay versus $150 a week plus copay and deductible.
Seems like Bernie's plan is cheaper than even PRE OBAMA insurance.
Now I know that no one likes discussing issues in context but there you go.
Slight increases in taxes for a substantial return.
College tuition, infrastructure, affordable healthcare. Yeah I will pay a little more for these things.
another winner ! this is a big thing. democrats change the names of things and espouse "don't worry, your govenment knows what you need, don't be concerned so much with the process. let's make the laws first, so we can run them by the people. bernie sanders glosses thing over, and his facts are wrong. i've known the man for decades, he glosses things over. i am stunned that benghazi came up in the debate.The most common complaint I hear about Sanders is that he is going to tax you to death and give everyone free stuff.
1st of all, that's an oxymoron. If I pay more in taxes how are the things I get in return considered free.
Now to the specific complaint. The Sanders camp put out a press release outlining whose taxes he would raise and by how much.
The top marginal rate would increase from 39.6% to 52%. That seems like a substantial amount. No one pays the top marginal rate. After deductions and loopholes, your effective rate is much lower.
Example, on mitt Romney's 2011 tax form he payed 13% in federal tax even though he was in the top bracket.
DONT CONFUSE MARGINAL TAX RATES WITH EFFECTIVE TAX RATES.
He also wants a 0.5% tax on stock speculation.
In context this isn't near as dramatic as we are lead to believe.
Let's remember in the 3 decades after WW2 the top marginal rate was between 72%-90%. That's a HUGE tax rate and yet our economy experienced massive growth. So, empirically Bernie's tax rate would be much lower than the tax rate during our period of greatest economic growth.
His final tax would be to fund his Medicare for all plan. A 9% increase.
Now let's put that in context. I make $19 an hour and before Obama care went into effect I was paying $150 a week for private insurance with a $3000 deductible and $100 copays. Under Bernie's plan my taxes would increase by $70 a week, so do the math. $70 a week with no deductible or copay versus $150 a week plus copay and deductible.
Seems like Bernie's plan is cheaper than even PRE OBAMA insurance.
Now I know that no one likes discussing issues in context but there you go.
Slight increases in taxes for a substantial return.
College tuition, infrastructure, affordable healthcare. Yeah I will pay a little more for these things.
if the media is bringing it up that's amazing and great, we will debate. obama has lied about or cooked just about every number in our economy. unemployment topping the list. it's a democrat house of cards about to collapse.
under Trump you leadership will get to keep you paycheck. you won't have to pay for shrimp on a treadmill, or give hillary's polster (mark penn) six million dollars of stimumus money. how that was legal, i'll never know.
Thank you for addressing anything I said about Bernie Sanders and his tax plan, or anything I said about our modern history and the post WW2 era.
I think I addressed you before, and if I did, you didn't listen------>
The 70 to 90% tax rates were fine and dandy, as long as we were the only game in town. (the world) WWII had ended, and European production was decimated. If most anything had to be built, it had to be built here in the USA, because we were the only country feeding the world industrial goods.
As soon as the rest of the world started to get back on it's industrial feet, what happened? Economy started to tank, and JFK had to LOWER taxes across the board to re-invigorate the American economy as capital fled to greener pastures, meaning a far less taxing authority. The scenario was again played out in the 80s as Reagan was elected, because of STAGFLATION. (ever hear that word?)
As long as you are the ONLY game in town, you can charge, or tax whatever you want. But if you have others competing, since most forms of taxes are built into the cost of a product, nobody will build it here.
If Americas tax rate on profits were made 30%, and another countries tax rate was 20%, that means the producer of that product would pay MORE taxes here. In essence, the producer there could lower the price to "break even" to stay afloat, while causing the company here to lose money and go under, at the same price point!
It is just that easy to figure out!
they also built up the military, which the socialist countries don't need because of us.Sanders isn't hated. No one would waste that passion o Him. He is just one of the dumbest politicians in modern era, which is evident in that he proclaims socialism which was a failed idea for the past 100 years
Good answer. Forget reconstruction and the new deal, forget that Eisenhower and Roosevelt also had socialist policy positions that were instrumental in our massive growth and recovery post 1940's.
Let's just ignore recent history in the united States
heh, i think we're on the same side here,another winner ! this is a big thing. democrats change the names of things and espouse "don't worry, your govenment knows what you need, don't be concerned so much with the process. let's make the laws first, so we can run them by the people. bernie sanders glosses thing over, and his facts are wrong. i've known the man for decades, he glosses things over. i am stunned that benghazi came up in the debate.The most common complaint I hear about Sanders is that he is going to tax you to death and give everyone free stuff.
1st of all, that's an oxymoron. If I pay more in taxes how are the things I get in return considered free.
Now to the specific complaint. The Sanders camp put out a press release outlining whose taxes he would raise and by how much.
The top marginal rate would increase from 39.6% to 52%. That seems like a substantial amount. No one pays the top marginal rate. After deductions and loopholes, your effective rate is much lower.
Example, on mitt Romney's 2011 tax form he payed 13% in federal tax even though he was in the top bracket.
DONT CONFUSE MARGINAL TAX RATES WITH EFFECTIVE TAX RATES.
He also wants a 0.5% tax on stock speculation.
In context this isn't near as dramatic as we are lead to believe.
Let's remember in the 3 decades after WW2 the top marginal rate was between 72%-90%. That's a HUGE tax rate and yet our economy experienced massive growth. So, empirically Bernie's tax rate would be much lower than the tax rate during our period of greatest economic growth.
His final tax would be to fund his Medicare for all plan. A 9% increase.
Now let's put that in context. I make $19 an hour and before Obama care went into effect I was paying $150 a week for private insurance with a $3000 deductible and $100 copays. Under Bernie's plan my taxes would increase by $70 a week, so do the math. $70 a week with no deductible or copay versus $150 a week plus copay and deductible.
Seems like Bernie's plan is cheaper than even PRE OBAMA insurance.
Now I know that no one likes discussing issues in context but there you go.
Slight increases in taxes for a substantial return.
College tuition, infrastructure, affordable healthcare. Yeah I will pay a little more for these things.
if the media is bringing it up that's amazing and great, we will debate. obama has lied about or cooked just about every number in our economy. unemployment topping the list. it's a democrat house of cards about to collapse.
under Trump you leadership will get to keep you paycheck. you won't have to pay for shrimp on a treadmill, or give hillary's polster (mark penn) six million dollars of stimumus money. how that was legal, i'll never know.
Thank you for addressing anything I said about Bernie Sanders and his tax plan, or anything I said about our modern history and the post WW2 era.
. this is from our local liberal village voice type paper
Sanders' ideas on economics has destroyed or damaged many economies int he world and it is not going to somehow magically work here in the US.
another winner ! this is a big thing. democrats change the names of things and espouse "don't worry, your govenment knows what you need, don't be concerned so much with the process. let's make the laws first, so we can run them by the people. bernie sanders glosses thing over, and his facts are wrong. i've known the man for decades, he glosses things over. i am stunned that benghazi came up in the debate.The most common complaint I hear about Sanders is that he is going to tax you to death and give everyone free stuff.
1st of all, that's an oxymoron. If I pay more in taxes how are the things I get in return considered free.
Now to the specific complaint. The Sanders camp put out a press release outlining whose taxes he would raise and by how much.
The top marginal rate would increase from 39.6% to 52%. That seems like a substantial amount. No one pays the top marginal rate. After deductions and loopholes, your effective rate is much lower.
Example, on mitt Romney's 2011 tax form he payed 13% in federal tax even though he was in the top bracket.
DONT CONFUSE MARGINAL TAX RATES WITH EFFECTIVE TAX RATES.
He also wants a 0.5% tax on stock speculation.
In context this isn't near as dramatic as we are lead to believe.
Let's remember in the 3 decades after WW2 the top marginal rate was between 72%-90%. That's a HUGE tax rate and yet our economy experienced massive growth. So, empirically Bernie's tax rate would be much lower than the tax rate during our period of greatest economic growth.
His final tax would be to fund his Medicare for all plan. A 9% increase.
Now let's put that in context. I make $19 an hour and before Obama care went into effect I was paying $150 a week for private insurance with a $3000 deductible and $100 copays. Under Bernie's plan my taxes would increase by $70 a week, so do the math. $70 a week with no deductible or copay versus $150 a week plus copay and deductible.
Seems like Bernie's plan is cheaper than even PRE OBAMA insurance.
Now I know that no one likes discussing issues in context but there you go.
Slight increases in taxes for a substantial return.
College tuition, infrastructure, affordable healthcare. Yeah I will pay a little more for these things.
if the media is bringing it up that's amazing and great, we will debate. obama has lied about or cooked just about every number in our economy. unemployment topping the list. it's a democrat house of cards about to collapse.
under Trump you leadership will get to keep you paycheck. you won't have to pay for shrimp on a treadmill, or give hillary's polster (mark penn) six million dollars of stimumus money. how that was legal, i'll never know.
Thank you for addressing anything I said about Bernie Sanders and his tax plan, or anything I said about our modern history and the post WW2 era.
I think I addressed you before, and if I did, you didn't listen------>
The 70 to 90% tax rates were fine and dandy, as long as we were the only game in town. (the world) WWII had ended, and European production was decimated. If most anything had to be built, it had to be built here in the USA, because we were the only country feeding the world industrial goods.
As soon as the rest of the world started to get back on it's industrial feet, what happened? Economy started to tank, and JFK had to LOWER taxes across the board to re-invigorate the American economy as capital fled to greener pastures, meaning a far less taxing authority. The scenario was again played out in the 80s as Reagan was elected, because of STAGFLATION. (ever hear that word?)
As long as you are the ONLY game in town, you can charge, or tax whatever you want. But if you have others competing, since most forms of taxes are built into the cost of a product, nobody will build it here.
If Americas tax rate on profits were made 30%, and another countries tax rate was 20%, that means the producer of that product would pay MORE taxes here. In essence, the producer there could lower the price to "break even" to stay afloat, while causing the company here to lose money and go under, at the same price point!
It is just that easy to figure out!
That would be correct but it ignores the fact of profit margin and the explosion in the pay of top earners. Taxes were cut and at the same time CEO versus hourly pay widened substantially.
Kennedy still had a top marginal rate over 60%. What has happened is as taxes have been cut to "stimulate growth" the money just went back into the pockets of the upper class. Wages have been stagnant for 30 years but taxes have been cut repeatedly. At the same time that taxes have been cut and wages have been stagnant the top earners have amassed exponentially more wealth and a larger share of the economic pie.
Your argument doesn't hold any water.
Please read for a prime example of how badly America has dumbed down.The most common complaint I hear about Sanders is that he is going to tax you to death and give everyone free stuff.
1st of all, that's an oxymoron. If I pay more in taxes how are the things I get in return considered free.
Now to the specific complaint. The Sanders camp put out a press release outlining whose taxes he would raise and by how much.
The top marginal rate would increase from 39.6% to 52%. That seems like a substantial amount. No one pays the top marginal rate. After deductions and loopholes, your effective rate is much lower.
Example, on mitt Romney's 2011 tax form he payed 13% in federal tax even though he was in the top bracket.
DONT CONFUSE MARGINAL TAX RATES WITH EFFECTIVE TAX RATES.
He also wants a 0.5% tax on stock speculation.
In context this isn't near as dramatic as we are lead to believe.
Let's remember in the 3 decades after WW2 the top marginal rate was between 72%-90%. That's a HUGE tax rate and yet our economy experienced massive growth. So, empirically Bernie's tax rate would be much lower than the tax rate during our period of greatest economic growth.
His final tax would be to fund his Medicare for all plan. A 9% increase.
Now let's put that in context. I make $19 an hour and before Obama care went into effect I was paying $150 a week for private insurance with a $3000 deductible and $100 copays. Under Bernie's plan my taxes would increase by $70 a week, so do the math. $70 a week with no deductible or copay versus $150 a week plus copay and deductible.
Seems like Bernie's plan is cheaper than even PRE OBAMA insurance.
Now I know that no one likes discussing issues in context but there you go.
Slight increases in taxes for a substantial return.
College tuition, infrastructure, affordable healthcare. Yeah I will pay a little more for these things.
Forward?Sanders wants to move the country forward so of course conservatives hate him.
First of all he's a delusional bag of wind, his ideas would destroy the country - in particular small business.The most common complaint I hear about Sanders is that he is going to tax you to death and give everyone free stuff.
1st of all, that's an oxymoron. If I pay more in taxes how are the things I get in return considered free.
Now to the specific complaint. The Sanders camp put out a press release outlining whose taxes he would raise and by how much.
The top marginal rate would increase from 39.6% to 52%. That seems like a substantial amount. No one pays the top marginal rate. After deductions and loopholes, your effective rate is much lower.
Example, on mitt Romney's 2011 tax form he payed 13% in federal tax even though he was in the top bracket.
DONT CONFUSE MARGINAL TAX RATES WITH EFFECTIVE TAX RATES.
He also wants a 0.5% tax on stock speculation.
In context this isn't near as dramatic as we are lead to believe.
Let's remember in the 3 decades after WW2 the top marginal rate was between 72%-90%. That's a HUGE tax rate and yet our economy experienced massive growth. So, empirically Bernie's tax rate would be much lower than the tax rate during our period of greatest economic growth.
His final tax would be to fund his Medicare for all plan. A 9% increase.
Now let's put that in context. I make $19 an hour and before Obama care went into effect I was paying $150 a week for private insurance with a $3000 deductible and $100 copays. Under Bernie's plan my taxes would increase by $70 a week, so do the math. $70 a week with no deductible or copay versus $150 a week plus copay and deductible.
Seems like Bernie's plan is cheaper than even PRE OBAMA insurance.
Now I know that no one likes discussing issues in context but there you go.
Slight increases in taxes for a substantial return.
College tuition, infrastructure, affordable healthcare. Yeah I will pay a little more for these things.
Yeah that's what happens when you get your Economy addicted to wasteful and unnecessary government spending and intervention, when the heroine supply runs out you go through withdrawals, of course gub'mint worshipers prescription for the problem is MORE HEROINE, cure the disease with more of the disease, makes sense if you're totally oblivious to long term economic consequences. That doesn't happen to economies where free markets are allowed to flourish sans over taxation, over regulation and wasteful government spending, they can function just fine without needing the state to prop them up.Austerity in the aftermath of the recession is what has rocked European countries, we have fared better because we decided to spend, not cut.
