Why is the Birther Movement called "racist"?

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

Why? Ask Hillary. She started the birther stuff back in '08. Don't recall now if it was before or after Cigar Bill opined to Teddy Kennedy...a few years ago this guy (implying boy) would be getting us coffee.

You can take the racist white boy dimocrat out of the south, buy you can't...

No, Clinton did not start the birther movement. Anonymous emails believed to be from Hillary supporters questioned his citizenship. Jim Geraghty, a conservative blogger and contributed to the National Review formulated what is now thought of as the Birther Conspiracy Theory that Obama was born in Kenya and not Hawaii.

If the Hillary supporters didn't start the rumor and Obama wouldn't have lied to his literary agency about being 'Kenyan born', not correcting his lie until two months into his campaign, Jim Geraghty would've had nothing to go on. Don't try to excuse the left and Obama's hand in starting the conspiracy movement.

Barack Obama was still 'Kenyan born' in 2007 according to his literary agency...two months after announcing his bid for the U.S presidency

The emails were anonymous and assumed to be from Clinton supporters.
The editor of the biographical text about Barack Obama which was included in the promotion booklet maintained that the mention of Kenya was an error on her part and was not based on any information provided to her by Obama himself. A New York Times article about Barack Obama published in 1990, a year before the Acton & Dystel promotional booklet was issued, identified his birthplace as Hawaii.

It's not clear that in the 1990's, that Obama even knew about the error and even if he did, what reason would he have to get a piece advertising, probably long since discarded corrected. He was not running for president in the 90's, had ample proof of where he was born, and it wasn't even his mistake, so why bother.


Promotional Booklet

No way for Barack Obama Jr. to forecast in 1991 that there would be nutjobs who would be trying to find some excuse about why he must not be eligible to be President.

Every actual publication for distribution that mentions his place of birth from 1990 onwards shows his place of birth as Hawaii.

Birthers of course ignore those publications- and insist that an obscure pamphlet that no one even noticed is the Sekrit Smoking Gun!


New York Times, February 6, 1990 - daily circulation- 1,586,757- Obama born in Hawaii

Chicago Tribune, February 7, 1990- daily circulation 414,590- Obama born in Hawaii

Washington Post, February 8, 1990- daily circulation 507.615- Obama born in Hawaii

Chicago Daily Herald, May 3, 1990-- daily circulation 15,190- Obama born in Hawaii
View attachment 89665(funny enough WND printed this)

Columbia Today, Fall 1990- Obama born in Hawaii

Obscure promotional pamphlet says Obama born in Kenya- 1991

Chicago Magazine, January 1993- circulation 165,000- Obama born in Hawaii

Chicago Tribune, Feb 10, 1993- 414,590- Obama born in Hawaii

Los Angeles Times, August 7, 1995- daily circulation 605,243 - Obama born in Hawaii

"Dreams from My Father" 1995- millions of copies sold - Obama born in Hawaii

Barack Obama State Senate Webpage, October 1, 1999 - Obama born in Hawaii

Chicago Daily Herald, January 22, 2003- 15,190 - Obama born in Hawaii

Time Magazine, June 24, 2004- circulation 3,276.882 - Obama

It doesn't matter whether those publications exist, fact is Obama had to have known about the error, yet he did nothing about it. And if he would have, then the birther thing wouldn't still have legs.

 

[Picaro]

You now repeated two provable lies:

1. The judge is a Mexican national. He's not. He was born in the United States to immigrant parents.

He didn't say anything about the judge being a 'Mexican national'. You're doing the lying here.

2. He is not a member of ANY group which has taken a public stance on illegal immigration or which supports illegal immigrants.

He's a member of a La Raza group. They not only support and encourage criminal illegal immigration, they support 'ethnic cleansing' of whites from their 'Aztlan nation' they claim covers most of the United States. you're lying again.

That you repeat things which Trumpsters parrot verbatim without fact checking, shows that you're as sheeplike and robotic as you claim the left is.

Another lie. You're 3 out of 3 now. 'Educated' people don't lie openly like this.

 

[Picaro]

Shouldn't the mods place Trigger Warnings at the top of this thread? Some of the Snowflakes are clearly becoming unhinged here.

Poor Picaro- starting to lose it so badly he is hoping for mod intervention- lol

Poor Syriously, still struggling to 'post last' while utterly unable to rebut facts; page after page after page of repeating gibberish, and nothing in the 'win' column yet, even when changing the subject repeatedly.

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

You now repeated two provable lies:

1. The judge is a Mexican national. He's not. He was born in the United States to immigrant parents.

He didn't say anything about the judge being a 'Mexican national'. You're doing the lying here.

2. He is not a member of ANY group which has taken a public stance on illegal immigration or which supports illegal immigrants.

He's a member of a La Raza group. They not only support and encourage criminal illegal immigration, they support 'ethnic cleansing' of whites from their 'Aztlan nation' they claim covers most of the United States. you're lying again.

That you repeat things which Trumpsters parrot verbatim without fact checking, shows that you're as sheeplike and robotic as you claim the left is.

Another lie. You're 3 out of 3 now. 'Educated' people don't lie openly like this.

I'd love for her to find where I ever said that the judge was a Mexican national.

 

[Syriusly]

Why? Ask Hillary. She started the birther stuff back in '08. Don't recall now if it was before or after Cigar Bill opined to Teddy Kennedy...a few years ago this guy (implying boy) would be getting us coffee.

You can take the racist white boy dimocrat out of the south, buy you can't...

No, Clinton did not start the birther movement. Anonymous emails believed to be from Hillary supporters questioned his citizenship. Jim Geraghty, a conservative blogger and contributed to the National Review formulated what is now thought of as the Birther Conspiracy Theory that Obama was born in Kenya and not Hawaii.

If the Hillary supporters didn't start the rumor and Obama wouldn't have lied to his literary agency about being 'Kenyan born', not correcting his lie until two months into his campaign, Jim Geraghty would've had nothing to go on. Don't try to excuse the left and Obama's hand in starting the conspiracy movement.

Barack Obama was still 'Kenyan born' in 2007 according to his literary agency...two months after announcing his bid for the U.S presidency

The emails were anonymous and assumed to be from Clinton supporters.
The editor of the biographical text about Barack Obama which was included in the promotion booklet maintained that the mention of Kenya was an error on her part and was not based on any information provided to her by Obama himself. A New York Times article about Barack Obama published in 1990, a year before the Acton & Dystel promotional booklet was issued, identified his birthplace as Hawaii.

It's not clear that in the 1990's, that Obama even knew about the error and even if he did, what reason would he have to get a piece advertising, probably long since discarded corrected. He was not running for president in the 90's, had ample proof of where he was born, and it wasn't even his mistake, so why bother.


Promotional Booklet

No way for Barack Obama Jr. to forecast in 1991 that there would be nutjobs who would be trying to find some excuse about why he must not be eligible to be President.

Every actual publication for distribution that mentions his place of birth from 1990 onwards shows his place of birth as Hawaii.

Birthers of course ignore those publications- and insist that an obscure pamphlet that no one even noticed is the Sekrit Smoking Gun!


New York Times, February 6, 1990 - daily circulation- 1,586,757- Obama born in Hawaii

Chicago Tribune, February 7, 1990- daily circulation 414,590- Obama born in Hawaii

Washington Post, February 8, 1990- daily circulation 507.615- Obama born in Hawaii

Chicago Daily Herald, May 3, 1990-- daily circulation 15,190- Obama born in Hawaii
View attachment 89665(funny enough WND printed this)

Columbia Today, Fall 1990- Obama born in Hawaii

Obscure promotional pamphlet says Obama born in Kenya- 1991

Chicago Magazine, January 1993- circulation 165,000- Obama born in Hawaii

Chicago Tribune, Feb 10, 1993- 414,590- Obama born in Hawaii

Los Angeles Times, August 7, 1995- daily circulation 605,243 - Obama born in Hawaii

"Dreams from My Father" 1995- millions of copies sold - Obama born in Hawaii

Barack Obama State Senate Webpage, October 1, 1999 - Obama born in Hawaii

Chicago Daily Herald, January 22, 2003- 15,190 - Obama born in Hawaii

Time Magazine, June 24, 2004- circulation 3,276.882 - Obama

It doesn't matter whether those publications exist, fact is Obama had to have known about the error, yet he did nothing about it. And if he would have, then the birther thing wouldn't still have legs.

1. You speculate "Obama had to have known about the error"- you don't know that- it is speculation- but of course that is what Birthers do.
2. And then speculate(changing your story without admitting your previous lie) that without this pamphlet Birtherism wouldn't still have legs- but that of course is not only speculation- it is pretty nonsensical speculation since Birthers still bring up the same old crap they brought up in 2008 and 2009 and 2010 and 2011 and 2012. In 2011 Donald Trump was saying he still didn't know where Barack Obama was born- even after he saw his birth certificate.

Birthers have shown they don't need 'facts' to birther- they will believe anything- hell look at you posting that joke video about President Obama saying he was born in Kenya.

LOL

 

[Syriusly]

Shouldn't the mods place Trigger Warnings at the top of this thread? Some of the Snowflakes are clearly becoming unhinged here.

Poor Picaro- starting to lose it so badly he is hoping for mod intervention- lol

Poor Syriously, still struggling to 'post last' while utterly unable to rebut facts; page after page after page of repeating gibberish, and nothing in the 'win' column yet, even when changing the subject repeatedly.

Poor Pitiful Picaro- still trolling the Birther thread- still without any content- still carrying Birthers water.

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

I do know he had to of known about it. There is no reasonable excuse for him not to. If you have one, please let me know. They were saying he was born in Kenya in his bio from the pamphlet in 1991 to the website until 2007....

Either he lied and said he was from Kenya, or was too lazy to correct it.

 

[Picaro]

You now repeated two provable lies:

1. The judge is a Mexican national. He's not. He was born in the United States to immigrant parents.

He didn't say anything about the judge being a 'Mexican national'. You're doing the lying here.

2. He is not a member of ANY group which has taken a public stance on illegal immigration or which supports illegal immigrants.

He's a member of a La Raza group. They not only support and encourage criminal illegal immigration, they support 'ethnic cleansing' of whites from their 'Aztlan nation' they claim covers most of the United States. you're lying again.

That you repeat things which Trumpsters parrot verbatim without fact checking, shows that you're as sheeplike and robotic as you claim the left is.

Another lie. You're 3 out of 3 now. 'Educated' people don't lie openly like this.

I'd love for her to find where I ever said that the judge was a Mexican national.

She can't read well, also typical of those ''educated Democrats'. I said he was a Mexican nationalist, which he openly is, not a 'Mexican national', such is the general illiteracy of 'progressives' and their failed day care operations pretending to be 'schools'.

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

You now repeated two provable lies:

1. The judge is a Mexican national. He's not. He was born in the United States to immigrant parents.

He didn't say anything about the judge being a 'Mexican national'. You're doing the lying here.

2. He is not a member of ANY group which has taken a public stance on illegal immigration or which supports illegal immigrants.

He's a member of a La Raza group. They not only support and encourage criminal illegal immigration, they support 'ethnic cleansing' of whites from their 'Aztlan nation' they claim covers most of the United States. you're lying again.

That you repeat things which Trumpsters parrot verbatim without fact checking, shows that you're as sheeplike and robotic as you claim the left is.

Another lie. You're 3 out of 3 now. 'Educated' people don't lie openly like this.

I'd love for her to find where I ever said that the judge was a Mexican national.

She can't read well, also typical of those ''educated Democrats'. I said he was a Mexican nationalist, which he openly is, not a 'Mexican national', such is the general illiteracy of 'progressives' and their failed day care operations pretending to be 'schools'.

Oh she's too stupid to know the difference between a racial nationalist and being a resident of a nation. Not surprising..she's a leftist. They aren't very bright most of the time. IDB is the only reasonable and intelligent leftist on the whole board. The rest are pure troll.

 

[Picaro]

Shouldn't the mods place Trigger Warnings at the top of this thread? Some of the Snowflakes are clearly becoming unhinged here.

Poor Picaro- starting to lose it so badly he is hoping for mod intervention- lol

Poor Syriously, still struggling to 'post last' while utterly unable to rebut facts; page after page after page of repeating gibberish, and nothing in the 'win' column yet, even when changing the subject repeatedly.

Poor Pitiful Picaro- still trolling the Birther thread- still without any content- still carrying Birthers water.

Still repeating yourself over and over. 'Educated' people should be able to come up with something new once in a while, you would think, but not you.

 

[Picaro]

You now repeated two provable lies:

1. The judge is a Mexican national. He's not. He was born in the United States to immigrant parents.

He didn't say anything about the judge being a 'Mexican national'. You're doing the lying here.

2. He is not a member of ANY group which has taken a public stance on illegal immigration or which supports illegal immigrants.

He's a member of a La Raza group. They not only support and encourage criminal illegal immigration, they support 'ethnic cleansing' of whites from their 'Aztlan nation' they claim covers most of the United States. you're lying again.

That you repeat things which Trumpsters parrot verbatim without fact checking, shows that you're as sheeplike and robotic as you claim the left is.

Another lie. You're 3 out of 3 now. 'Educated' people don't lie openly like this.

I'd love for her to find where I ever said that the judge was a Mexican national.

She can't read well, also typical of those ''educated Democrats'. I said he was a Mexican nationalist, which he openly is, not a 'Mexican national', such is the general illiteracy of 'progressives' and their failed day care operations pretending to be 'schools'.

Oh she's too stupid to know the difference between a racial nationalist and being a resident of a nation. Not surprising..she's a leftist. They aren't very bright most of the time. IDB is the only reasonable and intelligent leftist on the whole board. The rest are pure troll.

I'm not familiar with IDB. Hope you're right, as there is an almost total lack of moderates and real liberals here, mostly astro-turfing parrots, on both wings.

 

[Syriusly]

I do know he had to of known about it. There is no reasonable excuse for him not to. If you have one, please let me know. They were saying he was born in Kenya in his bio from the pamphlet in 1991 to the website until 2007....

Either he lied and said he was from Kenya, or was too lazy to correct it.

Again- why do you insist everyone else believe your speculations?

There is no evidence- no evidence at all that Barack Obama ever knew that pamphlet mistakenly showed his place of birth as Kenya.

But that doesn't stop you from the usual Birther speculation, lies and innuendo.

 

[JakeStarkey]

If the term "racism" bothers you, "xenophobia" or "ethnocentrism" can be substituted, OOM.

 

[Flopper]

Why? Ask Hillary. She started the birther stuff back in '08. Don't recall now if it was before or after Cigar Bill opined to Teddy Kennedy...a few years ago this guy (implying boy) would be getting us coffee.

You can take the racist white boy dimocrat out of the south, buy you can't...

No, Clinton did not start the birther movement. Anonymous emails believed to be from Hillary supporters questioned his citizenship. Jim Geraghty, a conservative blogger and contributed to the National Review formulated what is now thought of as the Birther Conspiracy Theory that Obama was born in Kenya and not Hawaii.

If the Hillary supporters didn't start the rumor and Obama wouldn't have lied to his literary agency about being 'Kenyan born', not correcting his lie until two months into his campaign, Jim Geraghty would've had nothing to go on. Don't try to excuse the left and Obama's hand in starting the conspiracy movement.

Barack Obama was still 'Kenyan born' in 2007 according to his literary agency...two months after announcing his bid for the U.S presidency

The emails were anonymous and assumed to be from Clinton supporters.
The editor of the biographical text about Barack Obama which was included in the promotion booklet maintained that the mention of Kenya was an error on her part and was not based on any information provided to her by Obama himself. A New York Times article about Barack Obama published in 1990, a year before the Acton & Dystel promotional booklet was issued, identified his birthplace as Hawaii.

It's not clear that in the 1990's, that Obama even knew about the error and even if he did, what reason would he have to get a piece advertising, probably long since discarded corrected. He was not running for president in the 90's, had ample proof of where he was born, and it wasn't even his mistake, so why bother.


Promotional Booklet

No way for Barack Obama Jr. to forecast in 1991 that there would be nutjobs who would be trying to find some excuse about why he must not be eligible to be President.

Every actual publication for distribution that mentions his place of birth from 1990 onwards shows his place of birth as Hawaii.

Birthers of course ignore those publications- and insist that an obscure pamphlet that no one even noticed is the Sekrit Smoking Gun!


New York Times, February 6, 1990 - daily circulation- 1,586,757- Obama born in Hawaii

Chicago Tribune, February 7, 1990- daily circulation 414,590- Obama born in Hawaii

Washington Post, February 8, 1990- daily circulation 507.615- Obama born in Hawaii

Chicago Daily Herald, May 3, 1990-- daily circulation 15,190- Obama born in Hawaii
View attachment 89665(funny enough WND printed this)

Columbia Today, Fall 1990- Obama born in Hawaii

Obscure promotional pamphlet says Obama born in Kenya- 1991

Chicago Magazine, January 1993- circulation 165,000- Obama born in Hawaii

Chicago Tribune, Feb 10, 1993- 414,590- Obama born in Hawaii

Los Angeles Times, August 7, 1995- daily circulation 605,243 - Obama born in Hawaii

"Dreams from My Father" 1995- millions of copies sold - Obama born in Hawaii

Barack Obama State Senate Webpage, October 1, 1999 - Obama born in Hawaii

Chicago Daily Herald, January 22, 2003- 15,190 - Obama born in Hawaii

Time Magazine, June 24, 2004- circulation 3,276.882 - Obama

It doesn't matter whether those publications exist, fact is Obama had to have known about the error, yet he did nothing about it. And if he would have, then the birther thing wouldn't still have legs.

But why would he have bothered. He had proof of his birth in the US. He wasn't running for president or anything else. He was just a student working on his law degree. His goal at that time was to teach.

 

[JakeStarkey]

OOM is clearly Alt Right.

The birther argument is one that the racial and tribal elitists put forth.

 

[Flopper]

I do know he had to of known about it. There is no reasonable excuse for him not to. If you have one, please let me know. They were saying he was born in Kenya in his bio from the pamphlet in 1991 to the website until 2007....

Either he lied and said he was from Kenya, or was too lazy to correct it.

I can't think of why he would bother correcting it but for argument sake let's say he wanted to do so back in the 1990's. How would he correct an advertising pamphlet promoting a book which has already come out. What would he do with the correction put it in the newspaper. Booksellers would have no interest in it and neither would the publisher. In fact it might actually hurt the sales of the book. This makes no sense at all.

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

OOM is clearly Alt Right.

The birther argument is one that the racial and tribal elitists put forth.

I'm not putting forth 'birther' anything. And I am racist, so what?

 

[JimH52]

The first African American President and his birth place is being questioned? And Comrade Trump just cannot let it go!

 

[JimH52]

OOM is clearly Alt Right.

The birther argument is one that the racial and tribal elitists put forth.

I'm not putting forth 'birther' anything. And I am racist, so what?

Comrade Trump needs people like you!

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

Jake, why will you NOT admit you are racist as well? I thought that was the first step towards cleansing yourself of the evil original sin of being born white and privileged and making it right with those you oppress, either conciously or subconsciously?

So let's hear it...if you're not scared that is.

Admit you are a racist, you'll feel better about yourself.